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Ironbeard
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« on: March 01, 2008, 11:23:03 PM »

I'm going through a rough depression right now.   My mom has spots on her liver and lungs for the CT scan.  I fear the worst.  She seems fine physically but still.  She has to have an MRI and liver biopsy.   She sees a cancer specialist that I hear is a good one.  Lung cancer was ruled out but not liver.  

Anyone else ever have someone they care about go through this.  I don't know, I just very scared right now.
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 03:43:14 AM »

I'm lucky to still have my parents, who are still doing quite well in their seventies, although I know they're not going to be able to go on forever.  I do have a good friend who continues to teach at Kent State while fighting back lymphoma.

These days, if you're lucky, cancer is something you can live your life in spite of.  I'm crossing my fingers for you -- particularly as a fellow Vixen fan.
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2008, 06:50:24 PM »

I don't know what to say; my father was convinced that, like his father, he would die of cancer.

He died at 93 of heart failure.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2008, 01:47:23 AM »

Ruling out lung cancer already is a DARN good start.  My Mom "presented" with non-small-cell lung cancer at Stage 4 (tumors that had spread to other organs) this past June and died within 3 months.  No little spot in her liver, either: the size of a softball.  Very, very aggressive tumor in an essentially inoperable place in her lung, as well, where it all started.  Ruling out lung cancer is a good thing.  A very good thing.

I do not know enough (other than to refuse to speculate wildly) about how many non-malignant and non-dangerous things can cause spots in diagnostic imaging, but you are definitely on the right track in heading for the people who do.  While they are learning what is going on, your web medical IQ will go way up as you start to learn how to understand what they are doing, where they are heading, and what questions to ask them to help guide you both in the most beneficial direction.

I have been where you are, and did not get any good news at all.  You are in my thoughts, and I wish you and your Mom the very best.

Unfortunately, always remember that it is called the "Practice of Medicine" for many reasons.   You will be doing your homework to be the most informed patient advocate for your Mom that you can be, and that will help you both get the best care you can.  Ask for and use any technical vocabulary they can give you, as it will help you in your search for answers, treatments, and hope.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 09:08:13 PM »

A need you all to know how my I appreciate all your help and well wishes.  I means a lot to me.    This is one of the greatest sites on the net.   Not because of the content  (which is great BTW) but the great people.  

She had her MRI today and if feeling better.  Just need to talk to the cancer doctor again and see if she still needs the liver biopsy.    She is also strong enough to drive me crazy.  A good sign.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2008, 10:37:59 AM »

 We finally got the results back and its cancer.  She need to have another test, some kind of full body scan to see how far it spread to determine the right treatment.  
      My mom's best friend is helping me a lot through this.  She is confident that my mom will be okay.  She had 4 sister die from horrible   conditions.  And she herself came close with lupus.  She knows all about
what my mom is going through and is sure she will
be okay.
      I on the other hand have trouble being optimistic.  With so many bad things happen to my family its very hard.  But I'm going to try.  But I'm very very scared.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2008, 07:19:47 AM »

   Your Mom may be taking a very low level radioactive tracer-based sugar solution that will identify cells with higher than normal metabolic rates concentrating more of the radioactive tracer by metabolizing more of the sugar.  The scan will then identify the localized areas of greater radioactivity.  This may indicate also if surgery, radiation, chemical therapy, or any other weapons in the anti-cancer arsenal are options.

   From there, samples of the cells will be taken to identify them as precisely as possible to tailor any chemical treatment to be as nasty as possible to the cancerous cells.

   Learn as much technical information as you can about the type of tumors, cells, and treatment options and then search on the Internet for any and all information.  You will slowly build up an understanding of, literally, what the heck is actually going on and how you can help both your Mom and her oncologist(s) to wage the best fight.  Persevere, and take notes.  As everyone learns more, you will keep up or catch up and be even more helpful to your Mom.

   Should conditions appear less favorable, you will be able to understand why; should they appear more favorable, you will, too.  In both cases, your knowledge will be helpful to you both, even though with knowledge comes the potential for better understanding bad outcomes as well.

   Start learning; try to take some control of the knowledge; help your Mom understand as best you both can; and think positively but be prepared through understanding to accept any negatives as they are discovered.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2008, 11:26:44 AM »

I don't want to going into too many details because I'm still too sad.  She died on friday.  Never got to give her what I made for her for mothersday.  I know the pain will never go away, just lessen over time.  Right now I'm in so much pain.  I miss her so much.
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 02:11:30 PM »

My heartfelt condolences.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2008, 03:13:43 PM »

My deep Condolences to you and you're family. I know how it feels to lose a love one and friends to cancer...it really SUCKS!
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2008, 07:04:55 PM »

 Very very sorry to hear of your loss Ironbeard.  
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2008, 12:57:56 AM »

My deepest condolences.
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2008, 08:00:04 AM »

I'm so very sorry to heat of your mother's passing.
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2008, 11:16:10 AM »

If Vixen were to offer me a hug, I'd say "Him first."
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2008, 08:53:05 AM »

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If Vixen were to offer me a hug, I'd say "Him first."




That is one of the sweetest comments I have received.  Thank you.   And Thank you all for all the comments.  They really do help.
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2008, 06:38:14 AM »

Really sorry to hear about your loss.  It's never easy.  Just lost a favorite aunt to cancer about two months ago, so I kinda know how you feel, although it must be different when its a parent.  Stay strong and take care!
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2008, 09:15:41 AM »

Ironbeard -
I lost my mom to cancer the same week.  
She kept it a secret so the whole family was in shock when she suddenly ended up in the hospital.
I found out on my birthday in April and exactly 4 weeks later she is gone...
I understand your shock, sadness, and pain and somehow that seems to help me a little bit.
Sorry to hear your news, stay strong but do not forget to let yourself grieve, sometimes that is the hardest thing to do.

We found a box of photos in the house that had been packed away for decades. I had never seen these! I have included one of my mom here when she was a model in Italy around 1960 in her early 20's. I miss mom too.
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2008, 01:14:29 AM »

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Ironbeard -
I lost my mom to cancer the same week.  
She kept it a secret so the whole family was in shock when she suddenly ended up in the hospital.
I found out on my birthday in April and exactly 4 weeks later she is gone...
I understand your shock, sadness, and pain and somehow that seems to help me a little bit.
Sorry to hear your news, stay strong but do not forget to let yourself grieve, sometimes that is the hardest thing to do.

We found a box of photos in the house that had been packed away for decades. I had never seen these! I have included one of my mom here when she was a model in Italy around 1960 in her early 20's. I miss mom too.




I'm so sorry.  Hope this thread helped you too.  
One thing that gets me by is that I should be able to see her again when its my time.  

My mom used to say that "Happiess is the relief of pain"  I hope she is finally happy.
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2008, 05:03:05 AM »

Ironbeard, I am sad to hear she is gone.  Nimrod is right: grieve well about a life lived well.  And she lives on in, and through, you now.

Nimrod, my Mom swore us to keep her secret, as well, and it made things more difficult for others.  I am with you, too.
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2008, 07:50:51 AM »

Damn,  Lost an Uncle to cancer this past Christmas.  I truly hope that she was not in pain.
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2008, 08:09:08 AM »

very sorry to hear of your loss... Lost my Mom and a brother to cancer many years ago..
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2008, 06:29:04 AM »

What can we say about cancer?  It is a horrible disease that it seems I am now fighting myself!  I'm lucky enough to have one that is highly treatable.  I said before that Im sorry for your loss and I truley am!  It has taken on a much more real form for me.  I'll be ok and am not hear for pity, just am so much for capable now of understanding your loss!  I'm sorry brother!
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2008, 04:53:15 PM »

Quote:

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I don't want to going into too many details because I'm still too sad.  She died on friday.  Never got to give her what I made for her for mothersday.  I know the pain will never go away, just lessen over time.  Right now I'm in so much pain.  I miss her so much.



My condolences.  I can relate (somewhat) as my mom passed about 6 weeks ago, although in her case it was more age-related.

I'm tempted to offer advice, except that you've no doubt gotten more advice than you know what to do with, to put it gently.  (I'm talking about RL here, friends/family, etc.)  I think platitudes can be helpful in spirit, but I also think when it comes to this, we each need to find our own path.

If you ask, I'll offer up a few things which have helped me.
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2008, 05:55:09 AM »

My Dad passed away about 6 years ago and I have to say even though we had a bad relationship, I was sad for along time.

You can take some solace in the fact you were close and she knew how much you loved her and vice versa. You don't realize how lucky you are in that respect.

Be strong.
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2008, 01:10:55 PM »

 Dear Ironbeard,
Pleae accept m condolences on your loss also.  Cancer touches us all, as I lost my maternal grandma to cancer as well.

Sincerest regards,

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« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2008, 01:35:51 PM »

 
My condolences to Nimrod and Ironbeard.Be sure to get a good mourning period out from this;that way moving on becomes just a tad easier.Blessed are those who mourn,like they say.
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« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2008, 09:34:22 AM »

Thanks Zealot and others -
Today I fly off to Michigan for my mom's burial.
It will be emotional and there will be a definite finality to things. I do not really agree that anyone ever gets "closure" on anything this potent.
Everyone play nice while I am away.
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« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2008, 11:52:45 AM »

Me  prays go out for you and you're family, Nimrod. I know how it feels to lose a love one. When my father pass away in 83. We argue a lot that year. Pop mind was going and I knew he didn't mean all the things he said, because he knew he was dying and it was only just a matter of time.
But I remember I was so sore with him, near the end to keep us apart.
When he finally died, I remember a couple days after we bury him, I was throwing away the garbage, when a thought came across my mind {I forgot what it was} that I couldn't answer that I said out loud "I tell Dad, he might know?"
To stand there silent and cry like a baby, that he was really gone forever, which I still miss him to this very day.
I'm sorry about sounding like idiot, It was something, i just wanted to get off my chest to say "I'm sorry Dad"
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« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2008, 07:03:54 PM »

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I still miss him to this very day.


Lost my father about the same time as you.  I still miss him too - but time does help I think.
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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2008, 05:56:07 AM »

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Thanks Zealot and others -
Today I fly off to Michigan for my mom's burial.
It will be emotional and there will be a definite finality to things. I do not really agree that anyone ever gets "closure" on anything this potent.
Everyone play nice while I am away.



Oh dear.

When bad fortune decides to pile on, it piles on. My sincerest condolences, Nimrod, and I hope you and Kithara return only when you feel ready.

Just so you have something to take your mind off things when you return, I recently bumped the Participation on the Forum thread. Between that and the KC Strip, I'm here to say I'm one of your biggest fans, and I pray for your spiritual healing.

My condolences to you, Ironbeard, as well.

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« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2008, 01:03:59 AM »

Thank you.    They say it comes in three's.  More like 300's  
At work, other workers and customer say that I'm very brave and they wish to be as brave as me when bad fotune meets with them.  I hope to one day see myself as they see me.  

Been working on moving (long another sad story) but once that is done my family can have a service for her.  

I still think about her all the time and miss her so.  Guess that is normal.  Pain never goes away.  One just get more use to the pain.

Did I ever mention how much this thread as helped me.  It has.  Thank you all again.
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« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2008, 09:46:59 PM »

Recently my father has been suffering what we all thought was a stroke.It turned out to be a brain tumor.I just learned earlier today it's malignant.
My stepmother is haggard with worry,and my brother was staying over for a few days with him while he had surgery last week.He fell in the bathtub,and they were all humbled at how helpless he was as they were getting him out of there.
He has the same condition as Ted Kennedy,but worse,we don't know how this is going to pull through,but this is just the beginning.
I spoke with him yesterday,and he sounded very feeble.What with his surgical scars he was jokingly comparing imself to Peter Boyle as the Monster from "Young Frankenstein";he was even able to sing a few verses of "Puttin' on the Ritz".
He will have to undergo Chemo and rad therapy or other options;at 78 years old this will be a very tough ordeal.
I have a dread of having to undergo the same ordeal as you two.
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« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2008, 11:49:50 PM »

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I spoke with him yesterday,and he sounded very feeble.What with his surgical scars he was jokingly comparing imself to Peter Boyle as the Monster from "Young Frankenstein";he was even able to sing a few verses of "Puttin' on the Ritz".



Sorry for your news, Zealot.

But for what it's worth, reading this paragraph put a smile on my face.  It sounds like something I would probably end up doing.  And hamming it up in the process.  Assuming I were feeling up to doing anything, that is.

Smiles are good to have.  While there were some sad moments at my mom's memorial, there were definitely a lot of stories shared which brought out the laughter.
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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2009, 06:04:08 PM »

On Saturday afternoon I went to visit my father at the Life care Center near his house.Although I couldn't see him on Christmas day or New year's my brother told me he was cognizant and able to chat.He had developed a bladder infection and was paralyzed on the left of his body.
I was so afraid to see him in such a weakened state,but when I got out there,the fear just seemed to vanish.He spent most of the day sleeping.He was on an oxygen feed and could only stay awake a few minutes at a time.All my siblings were able to see him over the holidays,as well as some cousins;he had no brothers or sisters,so many of his cousins were like siblings to him.


On Sunday afternoon my father passed away.His time had come.My sister was there and she called me to tell me the whole story.Even the doctors couldn't tell if he would live another day or a few more months,but the time was just yesterday.I was very lucky to get to see him the day before.
I don't know how to react right now.My day seems so hum-drum normal right now.
Still looking for a job
Still worrying about the money
Still wanting to get into better shape
Still dropping by here to chat and catch free pics
All this time I was the only person who hasn't broken out in tears,and I feel that's a bad sign.I'm afraid that the reall effects of his loss will come down like a Jerry Bruckheimer/Michael Bay Special Effect.
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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2009, 09:45:26 PM »

Nimrod and Ironbeard....and of course to others who have lost a parent.....

Life is tough and especially so when your parents are gone. My mother died and was buried on Mother's Day in 1980. At that time I was still in the Navy and had just finished being stationed in the Persian Gulf. So I barely made it back in time for the funeral.

Last year my dad died at the age of 89. Rather than repeat all I said in my own thread I can only write about the aftermath of that event.

My sister took everything that belonged to my father (which includes his entire estate and I got nothing)

 Even his casket flag which was  presented to me is now in her possesion and I doubt I will ever see it again.

I definitely was hurt and all of that, but I have something even more important than money and posessions. I have my children and grandchildren, my legacy and my only family now.

Hopefully none of that will happen to you folks. Be thankful that you had your parents in your life and all will be fine.

My condolences and thoughts go with you all as well.
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