Manual on How to Convince Your GF/Wife to Go Bigger

[beamadmax]

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espy said:
I wonder if the appropriateness of a publication on how to talk your wife/girlfriend into getting a breast reduction would be as vigorously defended here.

Actually, I don't wonder.

That would be where the BRA comes in;) (Breast Reduction Archive, not Brassiere...Which is kind of ironic because after a reduction you often don't need to wear one)

[Bonecracker]

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espy said:
I wonder if the appropriateness of a publication on how to talk your wife/girlfriend into getting a breast reduction would be as vigorously defended here.

Actually, I don't wonder.

Well there you go, Espy.  Good case in point.  This is exactly thhe kind of behavior that us "freaks" have to take seriously and take a stand against.  Otherwise we are truly deserving of being thought of as bizarre and out-to-lunch.

For your consideration,

Bone...

[wanna_party_inLA]

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espy said:
I wonder if the appropriateness of a publication on how to talk your wife/girlfriend into getting a breast reduction would be as vigorously defended here.

I hope with all my heart that the author of such a publication would be condemned publicly and banned for life from this forum, involving the CIA if necessary.

hahah

[ThinWhiteDuke]

I think that a lot of the examples of persuasion that are given make for inaccurate analogies.  Getting someone to get a costly and fairly life-changing surgery is far from getting someone to buy a pizza.  Less far from watching less porn, since that's a behavioral change and would require a long-term alteration.  Still, none of these involve what getting breast implants involves.  

A more accurate analogy, though still a bad one, would be a book written for girls to convince their boyfriends to do a cycle of steroids - essentially the male's breast implant.

I have mixed feelings about this book.  Personally, I find this kind of thing sort of gross - as in it gives me the creeps to picture myself taking the subject seriously.  Still, I'm a big fan of people's freedom to share, buy, and follow whatever information they want swimming in their heads, or in other people's.  So I just want to be clear that any "moral outrage" that I might feel or let slip out begins and ends with my own life.  If someone wants to read and follow the manual then, well, that's their thing, I guess.

It does bother me, though, that people seem to feel the need to justify this manual with analogies.  The subject matter is a little creepy, a little sneaky, and raises some red flags in all of us, I'd imagine.  But so do a lot of things and, frankly, the justification of this manual makes it seem far more fundamentally sick than it really is.  Even when viewed with the most judgmental frame that I can conjure, my concern is mainly about what sort of relationship a person must be in when they feel the need to "convince" the other person to do anything that they aren't naturally inclined to do.  But if that is the type of situation that you find yourself in then chances are that you'll figure out a way to continue the weirdness in some way; with or without a manual.  Someone may as well make a few dollars off of it.

So, yeah, I'm generally fascinated by this thread.

[TheCat]

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ThinWhiteDuke said:
I think that a lot of the examples of persuasion that are given make for inaccurate analogies.  Getting someone to get a costly and fairly life-changing surgery is far from getting someone to buy a pizza.  Less far from watching less porn, since that's a behavioral change and would require a long-term alteration.  Still, none of these involve what getting breast implants involves.  

A more accurate analogy, though still a bad one, would be a book written for girls to convince their boyfriends to do a cycle of steroids - essentially the male's breast implant.

I have mixed feelings about this book.  Personally, I find this kind of thing sort of gross - as in it gives me the creeps to picture myself taking the subject seriously.  Still, I'm a big fan of people's freedom to share, buy, and follow whatever information they want swimming in their heads, or in other people's.  So I just want to be clear that any "moral outrage" that I might feel or let slip out begins and ends with my own life.  If someone wants to read and follow the manual then, well, that's their thing, I guess.

It does bother me, though, that people seem to feel the need to justify this manual with analogies.  The subject matter is a little creepy, a little sneaky, and raises some red flags in all of us, I'd imagine.  But so do a lot of things and, frankly, the justification of this manual makes it seem far more fundamentally sick than it really is.  Even when viewed with the most judgmental frame that I can conjure, my concern is mainly about what sort of relationship a person must be in when they feel the need to "convince" the other person to do anything that they aren't naturally inclined to do.  But if that is the type of situation that you find yourself in then chances are that you'll figure out a way to continue the weirdness in some way; with or without a manual.  Someone may as well make a few dollars off of it.

So, yeah, I'm generally fascinated by this thread.

I agree completely.

[MasterDragonfly]

A couple things.

The author did say it was more the result of people asking him how many of his past relationships ended up with the woman getting an augmentation, which gave him cause to pause and try to distill it.  It's possible he's misunderstood things completely, and that there wasn't any hypnotism or coercion or other Really Distasteful Thing.  Maybe he's just lucky?

To put this in perspective:  I know someone who during the time I used to hang around him, used to amaze me with the hot women who would practically start throwing themselves at him.  He wasn't rich, he wasn't well-educated.  And this wasn't in a major urban center; this was in a suburb of Kansas City.

Conversely, I seem to be a BBW magnet.  You want my special power?  Buddy, if you can figure out how to take it, then take it.

So it's possible our dear author just happens to be in the right sort of socio-cultural setting, where the women he dates haven't really had a strong opinion on boobjobs, other than perhaps being vocal because it seemed to be the popular thing to do.  If you're sitting on the fence, it might not take much effort to nudge a person into a particular direction.

Now if someone has a strong opinion on the subject?  Good luck changing their minds.  It would be like sending KKK members to corporate sensitivity training regarding discriminatory behaviour.  They might be able to act like they're being opened up to a world of goodness, but once the class is over, chances are pretty good they'll just return to their old ways, although they might take greater care to ensure they're not discovered by the wrong people.

I don't really think I'm running to the author's defense.  More like trying to understand what he's achieved (or thinks he's achieved) versus trying to understand why people are treating him like he's trying to start a secret mind-control cult when it appears (to me) to be more benign than that.  Put another way:  I think you guys might actually be giving him more credit than he might deserve.  No offense intended.

Of course, I've not read his publication, but I would have to defer to a specialist in behavioural psychology to see whether they felt the contents of the book were a genuine threat.  If anything, I'd say it might deserve a section over on www.fastseduction.com - you want controversy?  How about guys doing what they can to optimize their chances of getting laid?  (And furthermore, is that a horrible thing?)

[TheCat]

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MasterDragonfly said:
A couple things.

The author did say it was more the result of people asking him how many of his past relationships ended up with the woman getting an augmentation, which gave him cause to pause and try to distill it.  It's possible he's misunderstood things completely, and that there wasn't any hypnotism or coercion or other Really Distasteful Thing.  Maybe he's just lucky?

To put this in perspective:  I know someone who during the time I used to hang around him, used to amaze me with the hot women who would practically start throwing themselves at him.  He wasn't rich, he wasn't well-educated.  And this wasn't in a major urban center; this was in a suburb of Kansas City.

Conversely, I seem to be a BBW magnet.  You want my special power?  Buddy, if you can figure out how to take it, then take it.

So it's possible our dear author just happens to be in the right sort of socio-cultural setting, where the women he dates haven't really had a strong opinion on boobjobs, other than perhaps being vocal because it seemed to be the popular thing to do.  If you're sitting on the fence, it might not take much effort to nudge a person into a particular direction.

Now if someone has a strong opinion on the subject?  Good luck changing their minds.  It would be like sending KKK members to corporate sensitivity training regarding discriminatory behaviour.  They might be able to act like they're being opened up to a world of goodness, but once the class is over, chances are pretty good they'll just return to their old ways, although they might take greater care to ensure they're not discovered by the wrong people.

I don't really think I'm running to the author's defense.  More like trying to understand what he's achieved (or thinks he's achieved) versus trying to understand why people are treating him like he's trying to start a secret mind-control cult when it appears (to me) to be more benign than that.  Put another way:  I think you guys might actually be giving him more credit than he might deserve.  No offense intended.

Of course, I've not read his publication, but I would have to defer to a specialist in behavioural psychology to see whether they felt the contents of the book were a genuine threat.  If anything, I'd say it might deserve a section over on www.fastseduction.com - you want controversy?  How about guys doing what they can to optimize their chances of getting laid?  (And furthermore, is that a horrible thing?)

I'm not saying that he's trying to start a mind-control cult. I'm just saying that if that IS the sort of stuff the manual promotes, then I'm not into it. I haven't read it, so I don't know what direction it takes, either.

I don't think there's anything wrong with mentioning your preference to someone who's on the fence about it. Honesty is good. But like I said, if it's about using manipulation on someone who's against it, then I don't agree with it, but I'm not sure how effective it would be, either.

So, yeah.

[Delirium]

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TheCat said:

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MasterDragonfly said:
A couple things.

The author did say it was more the result of people asking him how many of his past relationships ended up with the woman getting an augmentation, which gave him cause to pause and try to distill it.  It's possible he's misunderstood things completely, and that there wasn't any hypnotism or coercion or other Really Distasteful Thing.  Maybe he's just lucky?

To put this in perspective:  I know someone who during the time I used to hang around him, used to amaze me with the hot women who would practically start throwing themselves at him.  He wasn't rich, he wasn't well-educated.  And this wasn't in a major urban center; this was in a suburb of Kansas City.

Conversely, I seem to be a BBW magnet.  You want my special power?  Buddy, if you can figure out how to take it, then take it.

So it's possible our dear author just happens to be in the right sort of socio-cultural setting, where the women he dates haven't really had a strong opinion on boobjobs, other than perhaps being vocal because it seemed to be the popular thing to do.  If you're sitting on the fence, it might not take much effort to nudge a person into a particular direction.

Now if someone has a strong opinion on the subject?  Good luck changing their minds.  It would be like sending KKK members to corporate sensitivity training regarding discriminatory behaviour.  They might be able to act like they're being opened up to a world of goodness, but once the class is over, chances are pretty good they'll just return to their old ways, although they might take greater care to ensure they're not discovered by the wrong people.

I don't really think I'm running to the author's defense.  More like trying to understand what he's achieved (or thinks he's achieved) versus trying to understand why people are treating him like he's trying to start a secret mind-control cult when it appears (to me) to be more benign than that.  Put another way:  I think you guys might actually be giving him more credit than he might deserve.  No offense intended.

Of course, I've not read his publication, but I would have to defer to a specialist in behavioural psychology to see whether they felt the contents of the book were a genuine threat.  If anything, I'd say it might deserve a section over on www.fastseduction.com - you want controversy?  How about guys doing what they can to optimize their chances of getting laid?  (And furthermore, is that a horrible thing?)

I'm not saying that he's trying to start a mind-control cult. I'm just saying that if that IS the sort of stuff the manual promotes, then I'm not into it. I haven't read it, so I don't know what direction it takes, either.

I don't think there's anything wrong with mentioning your preference to someone who's on the fence about it. Honesty is good. But like I said, if it's about using manipulation on someone who's against it, then I don't agree with it, but I'm not sure how effective it would be, either.

So, yeah.

I'm not sure 'mind control' is even real and you have anything to worry about.  I havent read his manual but it's probably more about supporting the girls decision to get bigger implants instead of 'forcing' her to.

[MasterDragonfly]

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TheCat said:
I don't think there's anything wrong with mentioning your preference to someone who's on the fence about it. Honesty is good. But like I said, if it's about using manipulation on someone who's against it, then I don't agree with it, but I'm not sure how effective it would be, either.

I look at it like hypnotism, the entertainment variety.  Although this might not be a fair comparison.

I'm sure we've all heard that you can't hypnotize someone to do something which they're fundamentally opposed to, right?  For example, "Stick your hand into this flame!"    Not saying some twonk won't do it, but I think the consensus is that nobody is gonna do it.  Well, unless they've been convinced that the flame is water?  Meh.  Don't know, I'm not an expert on hypnotism.

I've been reading a Scott Adams book of late, and among other things he claims to have had proper training in hypnotism.  He wrote how he wondered how successful a restaurant would be, if the patrons willingly allowed themselves to be hypnotized into believing  the food they're eating is the most amazing food they've ever tasted, even if they're actually chewing on the most bland or vile food available.  Apparently even after the hypnosis wears off, the memory will last, so they would continue to remember having had an amazing time.  Add to that hypnosis the notion of sitting opposite someone highly desirable, the right lighting and ambiance, etc.

So maybe we should retitle this, "What Would Scott Adams Do"?  

[jimmyg]

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ThinWhiteDuke said:
I think that a lot of the examples of persuasion that are given make for inaccurate analogies.  Getting someone to get a costly and fairly life-changing surgery is far from getting someone to buy a pizza.

Uh, sure.  And we haven't become fatter than ever in the  U.S. because of all the weak-minded being lured in to becoming 'heavy users' at McDonald's or eating too much pizza.  And obesity-related illnesses including heart disease and diabetes haven't disproportionately exploded the past 30 years.   Sure - the constant beating of the Madison Avenue drums haven't made any life-threatening changes to the public's health.  "It's just a pizza."  Actually - it isn't even that.  At most major chains, it's a pasty lump of chemicals.

How about ANOTHER reason for this book?  Hmmm?  PLEASURE READING.  Personally I'll be getting the book for it's titillating properties.

But seriously - what a bunch of sheep some people are.  "ooh, don't write that - it's not nice."  chomp chomp chomp on another Big Mac.

[TheCat]

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MasterDragonfly said:

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TheCat said:
I don't think there's anything wrong with mentioning your preference to someone who's on the fence about it. Honesty is good. But like I said, if it's about using manipulation on someone who's against it, then I don't agree with it, but I'm not sure how effective it would be, either.

I look at it like hypnotism, the entertainment variety.  Although this might not be a fair comparison.

I'm sure we've all heard that you can't hypnotize someone to do something which they're fundamentally opposed to, right?  For example, "Stick your hand into this flame!"    Not saying some twonk won't do it, but I think the consensus is that nobody is gonna do it.  Well, unless they've been convinced that the flame is water?  Meh.  Don't know, I'm not an expert on hypnotism.

I've been reading a Scott Adams book of late, and among other things he claims to have had proper training in hypnotism.  He wrote how he wondered how successful a restaurant would be, if the patrons willingly allowed themselves to be hypnotized into believing  the food they're eating is the most amazing food they've ever tasted, even if they're actually chewing on the most bland or vile food available.  Apparently even after the hypnosis wears off, the memory will last, so they would continue to remember having had an amazing time.  Add to that hypnosis the notion of sitting opposite someone highly desirable, the right lighting and ambiance, etc.

So maybe we should retitle this, "What Would Scott Adams Do"?  

lol, maybe we should.

And now I have yet ANOTHER author to look into. So many books so little time.

[derf79]

The only point I can make is; some guy is trying to make a few bucks selling advice on what techniques have worked for him. I feel that he was being demonized for fear of some imaginary voodoo black magic that is in no way based on reality. A woman will not go under the knife no matter how convincing you are if she's not willing to.
I would no more like to see another situation like Lolo Ferrari than anyone else. But Eric did not manipulate her out of her own free will, not that he did not manipulate(we all do) but that he did not take away her free will. She chose most of the surgeries herself, from a diluted point of view mind you, but she still chose. I think that's where this irrational fear comes from.
I've known women in battered spouse situations who felt like they were controlled and manipulated into staying. Later do they realize that is was their choice to stay and blaming the guy for "controlling them" was just an excuse to stay in a dysfunctional co-dependant relationship. Daughters of overly strict, non emotional men are the worst for this. (They should write a book call "Your daddy was f'ed up and it's not your fault")
But I digress. Let the guy have his book. If McDonald's can persuade billions and billions served to buy junk food and end their life prematurely, then a book about talking a girl into considering boobies can't be too bad.

Derf "Now where's the book that can convince a girl that a 5" schlong is HUGE." 79

Sorry, needed some chuckles after so much seriousness.

[TheCat]

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derf79 said:
The only point I can make is; some guy is trying to make a few bucks selling advice on what techniques have worked for him. I feel that he was being demonized for fear of some imaginary voodoo black magic that is in no way based on reality. A woman will not go under the knife no matter how convincing you are if she's not willing to.
I would no more like to see another situation like Lolo Ferrari than anyone else. But Eric did not manipulate her out of her own free will, not that he did not manipulate(we all do) but that he did not take away her free will. She chose most of the surgeries herself, from a diluted point of view mind you, but she still chose. I think that's where this irrational fear comes from.
I've known women in battered spouse situations who felt like they were controlled and manipulated into staying. Later do they realize that is was their choice to stay and blaming the guy for "controlling them" was just an excuse to stay in a dysfunctional co-dependant relationship. Daughters of overly strict, non emotional men are the worst for this. (They should write a book call "Your daddy was f'ed up and it's not your fault")
But I digress. Let the guy have his book. If McDonald's can persuade billions and billions served to buy junk food and end their life prematurely, then a book about talking a girl into considering boobies can't be too bad.

Derf "Now where's the book that can convince a girl that a 5" schlong is HUGE." 79

Sorry, needed some chuckles after so much seriousness.

I think I might be doing a crappy job being clear in this thread. It's either too much caffeine, or not enough on my part.

I agree that people need to take responsibility for their own choices in life. It annoys me to no end when adults use "My parents treated me badly" as an excuse to act like an asshat. Grow up and own your mistakes. I wasn't trying to make women or myself out to be helpless, mindless creatures or anything. I agree, the guy is entitled to write anything he pleases, and I'm hugely against censorship.
All I'm sayin', is that purposely manipulating someone into doing something that they are against, (especially if you know that they'll do anything to please you, which is taking advantage) isn't a cool thing to do. I also think that there are deeper issues the woman needs to resolve if she's that easily manipulated and if she feels she HAS to please someone that desperately. It goes back to taking responsibility for your own actions. And as others have said, in most cases if someone doesn't want to do something, they won't.
Also as I've said, I haven't read the material, so I have no idea what direction it goes in. I was just offering my opinion on manipulation.

Annnd, from a lot of the sources I've come across, 5" is about an inch above average.

[ThinWhiteDuke]

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jimmyg said:

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ThinWhiteDuke said:
I think that a lot of the examples of persuasion that are given make for inaccurate analogies.  Getting someone to get a costly and fairly life-changing surgery is far from getting someone to buy a pizza.

Uh, sure.  And we haven't become fatter than ever in the  U.S. because of all the weak-minded being lured in to becoming 'heavy users' at McDonald's or eating too much pizza.  And obesity-related illnesses including heart disease and diabetes haven't disproportionately exploded the past 30 years.   Sure - the constant beating of the Madison Avenue drums haven't made any life-threatening changes to the public's health.  "It's just a pizza."  Actually - it isn't even that.  At most major chains, it's a pasty lump of chemicals.

How about ANOTHER reason for this book?  Hmmm?  PLEASURE READING.  Personally I'll be getting the book for it's titillating properties.

But seriously - what a bunch of sheep some people are.  "ooh, don't write that - it's not nice."  chomp chomp chomp on another Big Mac.

The analogy is still weak because it assumes that everyone who decides to eat fast food immediately becomes a daily user.  I'm no fan of these companies or their tactics, especially with children, but the occasional burger or pizza does not a chunkasaur make.  There are ways to eat fast food, even with some regularity, and still be in fantastic shape.  There's no way to get breast implants and not have breast implants.

The analogy also sort of cannibalizes itself into oblivion because you are trying to justify something that you have claimed isn't bad (or, as I see it, neither bad or good) by comparing it to something that you have clearly stated you think is contributing to the decline of people's health.

[MasterDragonfly]

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TheCat said:
And now I have yet ANOTHER author to look into. So many books so little time.

The Scott Adams book I'm reading is called Stick To Drawing Comics, Monkey Brain!  It was first published in 2007 (paperback came out in 2008), and given that it's basically just his blog put to paper, you might be able to find it in his blog archives.  Or not.

His blog can be found here:  http://www.dilbert.com/blog/

[Ivan LeCasque]

Gentlemen, in every case honesty is all I used, and that's what works. But it's how and when the honesty is delivered, and in what context, and with what accompanying ideas. I don't think there's anything in this modest Manual that is deceptive.
As one of the posters guessed, I do live in a country where changing breast size is as common as changing hair color, but that could be Brazil OR Los Angeles. When I started along this road, it was with the same innocent fascination that I see in users of this website. Learned a lot from the women who responded to my desires; I never pushed breast augmentation on a woman who indicated she was negative - who found the idea repugnant or unacceptable.

[Ivan LeCasque]

There's always...Venezuela. I don't know if they exist elsewhere, but the store mannequins there tend to have breasts that are show-stoppers...like maybe 2000cc? I have some photos around here somewhere...and breast implants are so common, and large, there that having a DD cup in Caracas is like a C cup in LA. - Hugo Chavez has done one thing right.

[DArcy]

Thanks for your project and for all efforts you put into "updating" the natural beauty of the ladies of your choice, Ivan !

Please feel free to load up/link any photo of the Venezuelan girls you mention!

You would do us a favor !


Greetz, D' Arcy

[Ivan LeCasque]

Here is the first shot. These mannequins are all over Venezuela, and it's one country where if you want a larger implant size, it's usually not a special order.

[Ivan LeCasque]

Could that photo be removed and this one substituted?

[Chelsea74]

http://forum.bearchive.com/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/669805/Main/652495/#Post669805


C.

[Djoser]

Well, Ivan, even tho there are really hot women in Venezuela, i think you're "overestimating" the frequency of DDs there . Also, because of the Miss Universe titles granted to Venezuelans,  aesthetic surgery has been pretty common there since the 80's, long before Chávez era.

In any case these kind of mannequins can be spotted easily in southern Central American and northern South American department stores, usually not in the "higher class" ones tho.

[Bonecracker]

I agree with DJoser, El Presidente Hugo Chavez had very little to do with plastic surgery, breast implants or large mannekins in Venezuela.

Best regards,

Bone...

[MasterDragonfly]

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Ivan LeCasque said:
Here is the first shot. These mannequins are all over Venezuela, and it's one country where if you want a larger implant size, it's usually not a special order.

Presumably not Inamed, Sientra or Mentor.

Who is the manufacturer?

[jimmyg]

Bump for update request.

Kindly advise when you have more information about the availability of your book.

Thank-you.

[ivanl]

Hi everyone - sorry about the long delay in responding; the Forum seemed to not accept log-ins, now it does.

Anyhow. the Convince Her [to Get Bigger Breasts] Manual has gradually expanded, mostly with my own observations and techniques, a few from contributors.

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Since you claim to have "convinced" six women to get augmentations, perhaps you should use photos and statements from them, rather than "borrowing" obvious photos of girls from my$pace/web$hots (and Aria Giovanni) and writing fake testimonials about them. Our Forum Rules prohibit links to content from my$pace, web$hots, and similar sites, so you can't post links to your site unless you remove the problematic content. And if you do remove it, the appropriate place to promote your site is the Classifieds forum, not this one.

I've had several dozen customers, a majority being from Germany and Australia. Only one customer took me up on the moneyback guarantee, saying it 'was not applicable to his situation.'

I've read with interest the many comments, including ones about "mind-control" and the fall of western civilization.

Really, this is 50 pages of strategies and techniques to help your woman see the benefits applicable to herself and her relationship with you (of BA). It's common sense linked with a specific approach. Women want to be excited. Women want to have more in life. Women want their man to be excited. By them. If they don't want that, then they're "just not that into you." Whether they will accept BA as part of that more, part of that excitement - it depends on the individual.

Some people are adamant: "you don't like me exactly this way, then you're wrong." That's unlikely to work out. But the other 90% - and I really believe it's 90% these days - can see the attraction if it's presented properly and with the right timing.   I hope you will read the excerpts. Some of the photos are faked - yup, I admit it - they're there to keep you reading. But some of them are absolutely real shots of my girlfriend. And soon there will be more absolutely real shots of her looking different. Bigger. Or I want my own money back.

[Q_BE]

Why is the name Ivan LeCasque so familiar to me? He's only been here since May, and he's only got 30-something posts...

...could somebody maybe clunk me in the head and help me out here?

Q-"Thanks in advance"-BE

[ivanl]

To the person who asked why my name was familiar, I am sure it's not because about 14 years ago, I wrote (for Details, then Marie Claire and then FHM) the probably was the among the earliest articles by a man about dating a woman who had breast augmentation.
     The surgeon mentioned in that story, which was true, is identified by his real name. He later told me that many women came in for breast augmentation carrying that article. That article has been on his website for about 12 years, with my name on it.
      For those who are interested, the Convince Her To Get Bigger Breasts Manual is $17, and you can easily find it on the Internet. More than anything, it's just common-sense tips and techniques on how to communicate with the woman in your life about your desire for her to be big-breasted.
      If you don't think The Manual is worthwhile, I'll refund all but $3, so it's not exactly a high risk investment.
     
      While the book's website has some photos of my girlfriend, I prefer not to identify which ones are her. In any case, I wouldn't guarantee any particular technique would work. So far, just one reader has asked for a refund. It sells a few copies per day, with a preponderance to Germany and Australia, and the USA.

      I'm guessing from the messages I've seen here that the audience at this website is more into looking at pictures of fantasy than making the fantasy real in their own real life. Too bad !! I can tell you, when the woman in your life says, "I'd like to make them bigger for YOU." it is a helluva lot more exciting than any fantasy photos.

       And I can also tell you, I'm still smarting from the plastic surgeon who recently talked my girlfriend out of jumping to 800cc as she was about to go under anesthesia. He did her eyelids instead. In the US, would that be grounds for some kind of malpractice? Against me, even though I wasn't the patient? Could I sue for that?

[ivanl]

do the cobbler's children wear shoes with holes in them? Not here!

Hello detractors and supporters - I had been quiet here recently, distracted with my move back to the US from [a country where plastic surgery rules, but must go unnamed for the moment] and also feeling that my credentials were in doubt since our favorite plastic surgeon convinced my girlfriend -- at the door of the OR - not to go up from 600cc.

She is 5-3 and 105 pounds with her current silicone implants.

She has been almost a co-editor on the Convince Her Manual. The larger photos on the site for the e-book are of her. She's 39, mother of 2, and has her own business. and is nobody's fool.

She kept bringing it up, and I kept responding - the surgeon had told her "Look, if you change your mind, I'll do it for free." positively, and this is the truth: for her own reasons, she WANTS to be my fantasy girl. I also want to be her fantasy man, and work very hard toward that end. it's not easy, with a Brady bunch situation and two very jealous ex-spouses.

The operation was two days ago. She just went to see the surgeon, told him she had decided, he had an opening the next day, he had the Euro 800 high profiles right there, and boom.  Violently sick afterward, but recouping pretty well.  She's flying back into the US next Wednesday and I'll try to post photos, if I can figure out how - definitely I'll get them up.  What she's emailed me look like she's in pain- very swollen (albeit delicious) and not for primetime exposure.

As regards the book, it confirms that the process can be long-term.  It's her 3rd BA. First time was 425, then she asked if I'd like 600cc, and it's such an open subject with us -- I mean everyone talks about her breasts, 600 is BIG on her, so people know -- that when she began mentioning 700cc in intimate situations, I said.... wait, this is going in the book. There is something to be said for taking control of a situation at the right moment. BA for us is an extension of sex, just as foreplay with porno is for some couples, or a couple of cocktails beforehand.  

Over time we took a subject that could be negative for some, and made it very positive. She may not keep the 800s her entire life, but as she put it, "I'm going to be an absolute bombshell through my 40s, and I'm doing it for YOU."  Well, I hope so!  Pics promised.

Ivan LeCasque

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[ivanl]

Since there are no copyright issues any longer (sent the poor webmaster packing and I know exactly where all the photos came from) , I think I'm allowed under Forum policy to explain that you can order the e-book for $17 from implants4her.com  or just google on Convince Her Manual

I'm working on a sequel - with a female coauthor - which will delve into the effect on one's sex life and life in general - of plastic surgery, primarily BA. This is the sizzle that women after; once you get past the stuff about 'just filling out my tops a bit more' .

My girlfriend recently went up to 800 cc and is thinking about 1000cc -- and we seem to have turned a corner, where she's the one driving the topic. Like I try to convey in the book, it's more about opening up the whole discussion to include the benefits, which are sometimes frozen outside a woman's thinking.

Women are not dumb; they know what's happening if a guy always closes his eyes during sex. The near-total assurance that won't happen again if she morphs - literally - into his fantasy does have some appeal.

Ivan