Bad Kitty's Nipple Enlargement Thread

[sidewalkpsycho]

Plural of areola is areolae, not areoli.

[Bad Kitty]

Plural of areola is areolae, not areoli.

I originally got my spelling from a medical textbook.

but... upon checking, you are correct.
technically areolas is also workable.

anyway, not going to go back and edit the whole thread over it.

[Night Lord]

I don't know why I never thought of this, but I will admit the idea of a female with the gum-drop sized nipples is pretty enthralling.

[Master of the Universe]

Love big nipples, and wish you the best on your quest!  I've seen some unreasonably big nipples on Asian girls over the years.  I've always wondered if it's genetics, or if there's something they've done...

[Bad Kitty]

I don't know why I never thought of this, but I will admit the idea of a female with the gum-drop sized nipples is pretty enthralling.

Me too though I have to admit my first girlfriend originally got me onto the idea, mainly just by having really incredible nipples.

Plus, guys tend to look at the whole breast, but from a girl's perspective the nipples really are the 'business end' of the boobie. That's just where all the exotic wiring and duct work is, the rest of the boob doesn't 'feel' all that different from any other part of the body. So, I think it's just kind of a natural fit for a girl to obsess over nipples, as much or more than breasts themselves.

Love big nipples, and wish you the best on your quest!  I've seen some unreasonably big nipples on Asian girls over the years.  I've always wondered if it's genetics, or if there's something they've done...

It's genetics. Asian girls just have amazing nipples as a trait, like dark hair or being shorter, etc. Some are more amazing than others of course, but what we call amazing nipples in the US, the japanese call 'average' nipples over there

Basically I'd like really exceptional asian-style nipples, and I'm going for it

[Night Lord]

Me too though I have to admit my first girlfriend originally got me onto the idea, mainly just by having really incredible nipples.

It's great how inspiration can strike like that. I know my tastes have changed from exposure to things. Just the thought of my girlfriend's large-ish nipples and wide aureole (that sort of blend in with her pale skin along the edges) is giving me chills right now. I never really cared for that before.

[MasterDragonfly]

I'm curious, which surgeons have you found willing to do nipple augmentations with the surgical methods described?

The closest I ever heard about nipple augmentation was Vixen Lamoore's unfortunate attempt. Her surgeon tried some sort of purse-string suture, as I recall. It didn't work out well.

At any rate, I'm genuinely curious. This might be something which might interest cherri.

As an aside (and I'm going from distant memory here), I thought that Alloderm was cadaverous tissue, one which had the proteins scrubbed. I'd first learned about it back in my PE-curious days. The concern which had come up was with regards to potentially passing on AIDS, but due to the scrubbing of proteins, this risk was mitigated.

Hmm... and a quick online search doesn't clue me in any better regarding the process, just that it's patented. Feh.

[Bad Kitty]

It's great how inspiration can strike like that. I know my tastes have changed from exposure to things. Just the thought of my girlfriend's large-ish nipples and wide aureole (that sort of blend in with her pale skin along the edges) is giving me chills right now. I never really cared for that before.

hehe, well I have the awesome areolae, I just have very average nipples. Honestly, on less impressive areolas, I would probably be less obsessed about improving my nipples. It's just such a contrast. Like if you had a classic musclecar, but the wheels were 13" steel rims with economy tires and cheap plastic hubcaps... if you had a Chevy Aveo you probably wouldn't notice how small the wheels are (or care), but on a car that deserves better... it would really make you want to go wheel shopping, no?

I'm curious, which surgeons have you found willing to do nipple augmentations with the surgical methods described?

The closest I ever heard about nipple augmentation was Vixen Lamoore's unfortunate attempt. Her surgeon tried some sort of purse-string suture, as I recall. It didn't work out well.

At any rate, I'm genuinely curious. This might be something which might interest cherri.

As an aside (and I'm going from distant memory here), I thought that Alloderm was cadaverous tissue, one which had the proteins scrubbed. I'd first learned about it back in my PE-curious days. The concern which had come up was with regards to potentially passing on AIDS, but due to the scrubbing of proteins, this risk was mitigated.

Hmm... and a quick online search doesn't clue me in any better regarding the process, just that it's patented. Feh.

I did have a link to a doctor who does alloderm injection method nipple enlargements, but I can't find it at the moment. His preference for alloderm (the micronized injectable form of alloderm) was that it results in the growth of live tissue where the filler is placed, having a much more permanent effect than some other injectable fillers.

They can test for aids and other diseases in cadavers, so it should be as safe as donated blood (not 100% safe, but nearly so). The tissue is basically destroyed, leaving the raw materials which your body uses to make cells, and your body gradually grows tissue into the alloderm replacing it as it does so. So there's no immune rejection risk. Alloderm is more common as a skin graft sheet, but a less well known micronized injectable form is also available.

here are some other links. from what I can gather, nipple augmentation is not a super-rare procedure. it's most often used to correct inverted nipples, or help make asymmetrical nipples more similar. but there is a market for it for almost any rationale.

http://www.breast-plastic-surgery.org/nipple-enlargement.html
http://www.cosmeticsurgerytoday.com/breast_augmentation/nipple-augmentation/
http://www.locateadoc.com/pictures/cosmetic-surgery/nipple-enlargement.html
http://www.beverlyhillsplasticsurgerycenters.com/nipple-augmentation.html
http://www.marinaplasticsurgery.com/plastic-surgery-news/news-nipple-surgery-trend.cfm
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The methods are:
- injecting some sort of filler (like they do with lips)
- implanting fat or cartilage from elsewhere in the body
- implanting tissue plus grafting skin to the nipple as well
- cutting the milk ducts which releases the nipple to extend outward further, but permanently stops lactation. (I did not mention this method previously because I have completely ruled it out for myself, but I should mention it for completeness on the topic)
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The only method i'm interested in is an injection type, where there's no cutting, and the results are less impressive but less likely to cause any problems with lactation or sensitivity. Again, we shall see what I can accomplish without it first though

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I should point out that there's a new type of fat-reinjection method in trials now, where body fat from liposuction is basically reduced down, while preserving the stem cells, so that they make a sample of your body fat which is abnormally high in stem cells. And then using this as an injectable filler for breast/buttocks augmentations, or other possible uses including lip plumping. This is superior to simple fat reinjection methods because the high stem cell count allows the tissue to grow new blood vessels very rapidly, so avoiding having some of the injected fat tissue die and disolve (lumpy appearance issue). Typically this method can only provide 1-2 cup sizes of growth, but the shape is highly customizable, and the new breast mass is made of your own body fat. Now, I have not seen any information on it (yet), but this method seems like a perfect tool for injection based nipple enlargement.

[MasterDragonfly]

Just getting around to catching up on this thread.

Excellent info, thanks!

[Bad Kitty]

I have the assorted nipple suction cups now, and have been using them about 18-20 hours a day this week.

I can say that it has resulted in very noticeable soreness. I've tried scaling back on the suction pressure a bit. but they are sore from this undertaking. for now I'm just massaging them, and trying to adjust the cups regularly to help prevent them getting too sore.

I am not ready to slow down this undertaking though. As long as the soreness doesn't show any signs of lasting damage, I will press onward.

when i pull off the suction cups, my nipples look HUGE, but they slowly shrink back towards their original size over a period of about 20 minutes.

I have noticed that they are not shrinking all the way back to the original size though. Which may be a good sign, although I don't expect any serious progress so early in the process.

Temporary engorgement is not the goal, but long term pressure (in this case suction) should affect how the cells of the nipple grow in the coming months, so that they react to the push and pull, just like corsetry would cause in the waist.

months of this soreness o.O eeep! but i am a determined kitty! I shall have huge luscious nipples!

[Surlan]

Thanks so much for the update!!! this has to be my favorite thread on the site!!

[mail_cobra]

Kitty, what are and, where did you get these cups?

[Bad Kitty]

Soreness is still proving to be a huge problem. I scale back the intensity of the suction somewhat, but when I am at work or asleep, they tend to stay in place much better if I keep the suction fairly strong.

my nipples are darker in color, a darker pink (originally a very pale pink). and they stand out more from the color of my areolas. this is due to increased vascularization in the nipple, basically the capillaries are swollen larger than normal. originally this was a temporary side effect of the suction, but now the darker coloration seems to last indefinitely. Although I'm not really giving it enough time without suction to see if it would wear off given more time.

size and projection both seem improved. it's difficult to quantify exactly how much though. nipples seem to have moderately more girth (about 20% thicker) and similarly are about 20% longer. Areola projection is also increased (more cone shaped areola when aroused/cold) and projects forward noticeably, perhaps half a centimeter. originally my areolas laid pretty flat even when scrunched up from cold/arousal, now they definitely project out some when scrunched up.

I won't hazard a guess as to how permanent these results are so far. but I doubt they'd show much permanent effect so soon. it takes many months for cell growth to respond to such pressures. I'm probably only just begining to see some lasting growth. It's encouraging to see that they are visibly larger now though, even if they might lose it if i stopped using regular suction now. I am confident that in time, I will see further size gains, and more permanent effects.

immediately after removing suction cups, nipples look like marbles now. they used to shrink back down in about 15 minutes, but now it's taking over a half hour for them to fully rebound after a suction session. that's also encouraging

Kitty, what are and, where did you get these cups?

the larger 1-inch diameter suction cups which I use while recreating (tv/computer) were bought from a local adult store, but are available from most adult or bondage stores online. brands likely vary, the ones I got are black, and 1"x3", with a very firm suction to them. the base of them is not very comfortable. They tend to enlarge the nipple *and* some of the areola as well. Basically they pull the areola forward to be more cone shaped.


the suctions cups I wear to work are the Niplette (tm) system for correcting inverted nipples in expectant mothers. they are pretty low profile, and I wear them under a padded bra, and a couple layers of clothing, and they become relatively unnoticeable. they are about the diameter of a nickle, and project outwards about the same distance. they come with a small syringe style pump and have a little valve on the cups. The cups themselves are comfortably tapered, and are hard plastic.


the ones I'm wearing to bed are small silicone suction cups, slightly larger than the niplette cups, but gentler in their suction. They don't stay in place very well overnight, but under a sports bra, they have about a 50/50 chance of staying in place until morning, depending on how much I move around in my sleep.

there's a post on page one where i have images of the 3 kinds of nipple suction cups I'm using.

[Surlan]

Awesome results kitty! Glad to have an update! I also like the fact that areola are growing too... makes it look even better in my opinion....

[yllwdeuce]

Great update! You have definately dedicated ALOT of your time to perfecting those gains, and helped alot of others who wish to do the same! Keep up the great posts!!!

[Bad Kitty]

I've really noticed a lot of size gains in the last couple weeks.

The current size of my nipples could be described as being about as large as Peanut m&m's
Whereas my original size was more like asprins

These gains are in spite of the fact that I've had to cut down on the intensity of the suction, because of nipple soreness. So that's really promising for 3 months of suction work (some of which was quite a bit less intensive while I selected suction cups and waited on mail orders and such.

Also, I think I should point out, to anyone who wants to use nipple suction. If you do it "too hard" you will get "water blisters" on the nipple, which are like little blisters which are held in by a transparent-thin layer of skin. It's my feeling that it's best to try to avoid these, but you're going to run into them if you do a lot of nipple suctioning.

The best way to avoid them that I have found, is to place the nipple suction cups with fairly high intensity. And then after about 10 minute, remove them, re-lube the nipples, and reapply the suction cups, with slightly less suction. This seems to achieve the maximum amount of suctioned growth size, with the minimum amount of suction pulling on the tip of the nipple where water blisters can form if the suction is too great.

And again, the real key is not the intensity of the suction, but how constant and long term the suction is



I have had the idea... to take estrogen dermal patches, cut them open, and use the fluid inside for suction cup lube... just to add an extra 'kick' of high intensity hormonal stimulation right on the nipple (and breast). But I'm afraid it might cause lactation, which I don't want to do until i've seen more progress with nipple growth from suction cups. later in my regimen, i might try this though.

[Night Lord]

Bad Kitty, that's a amazing. Keep up the good work and hopefully you will continue to see benefits. How much of this growth do you think is lasting and how much temporary? I'm assuming you are going to continue with the suction for a time even after you reach your goal to help with making it as permanent as possible, but do you have a time-line on that yet?

[rr]

kep goin

[Bad Kitty]

Bad Kitty, that's a amazing. Keep up the good work and hopefully you will continue to see benefits. How much of this growth do you think is lasting and how much temporary? I'm assuming you are going to continue with the suction for a time even after you reach your goal to help with making it as permanent as possible, but do you have a time-line on that yet?

I don't have a timeline on it yet, no. But I do expect to see some nipple growth from "stage 2" of my BE plans as well, which is to induce lactation. I suspect that if i do maintenance suction to them as I try to induce lactation, and just kinda transition from suction cupping to breast pumping directly... that the gains should be really permanent and further developed.

I could see continuing with nipple enlargement suction for as long as a year before switching to lactation. It depends... I may run into a plateau regarding growth, where its just not seeing much more in terms of gains. Or maybe I won't, and they'll keep getting bigger and bigger hehe. I'll find out though

kep goin

Oh I am
and when I induce lactation at the end of this nipple suction program, I expect to see an additional 50% nipple size increase

[Night Lord]

I don't have a timeline on it yet, no. But I do expect to see some nipple growth from "stage 2" of my BE plans as well, which is to induce lactation. I suspect that if i do maintenance suction to them as I try to induce lactation, and just kinda transition from suction cupping to breast pumping directly... that the gains should be really permanent and further developed.

And is there a stage 3?

[Starscream]

the nipples really are the 'business end' of the boobie.

I know this is kinda "off-topic" and using an old part of the thread, but I swear the second I saw this line I thought to myself "This needs to be on a t-shirt" 

[Bad Kitty]

And is there a stage 3?

stage 3? Yes there is.
I think i may have covered it on the previous page, but i'll recap:

Stage 1:
...is this nipple enlargement (via suction cups) program that I am currently on. I will probably keep it up for a full year. I am really curious to see just how much nipple growth can be accomplished that way. And I would kinda like to over-do it a bit to compensate for the fact that I do expect to see some moderate loss of my size gains after stopping. Basically after say a 12 month period of suction cupping, just for example, I would imagine that the size gains would retreat to around the 10 month size or so. I'll find out of course but it would make sense that very recent suction-based size gains would rebound to normal after taking away the suction, while long term "maintained" size gains should have some cell division and actual tissue growth to make more permanent.

I'm not sure exactly how long I will do the suction cupping. I think it depends on how the size gains are progressing. If I'm making good progress, I'll probably keep at it longer, and keep milking the benefits (pun intended ). But I'd like to do it for at least a year in total.

Towards the end of my suction cupping, I plan to get some dermal estrogen patches, which slow-release estrogen into the body through the skin over about 30-60 hours. And I plan to cut them open, and use the estrogen bearing fluid inside for suction cup lubrication. My idea is that the amount of estrogen supplement will be mild, about on par with some forms of birth control, or post menopause treatment. But the concentration of estrogen at the nipple (and breast) will be very high. I'm hoping that helps to encourage a little bit of extra growth, as well as being a primer for helping to induce lactation shortly thereafter. Another option I'm looking at is progesterone cream, which might actually be better, as it tends to affect just the milk duct system part of the breast (of which the nipple is a part).

Stage 2:
...I want to induce lactation. I will probably go over the more detailed aspects of how to do this when the time comes. This will have 2 benefits in terms of body re-shaping. My breasts will grow by an average of 1-2 cup sizes (about 60% of which is permanent growth), and my nipples will grow by at least 50% in size. Sooo, the hope is that if I make my nipples nice and big before inducing lactation, that the 50% nipple growth from lactation will be applied to their current, enlarged size, resulting in a more impressive total size gain. For example, if I am able to grow my nipples to triple their original size (300%), and then apply a 50% growth modifier to my nipples (from lactation) hopefully that 50% growth will apply to the total enlarged nipple size, netting me an extra 150% of my original nipple size (50% of 300%), resulting in a final size of 450% original size. That's all just hypothetical numbers of course, to illustrate the basic idea, and it is theoretical. It's possible that the 50% growth would only apply to the original nipple size, so 300% plus 50% increase over the original, pre-suction-grown size, would go to 350%. I'm not sure which way that will turn out. I don't think anyone knows. I'm going to find out though

But I do suspect, that the nipple growth of lactation, immediately after nipple suctioning based growth, may inhibit any 'rebound' of size gains due to stopping the suction cupping. In other words, putting the nipples into a growth phase (from lactation) immediately after my nipple suction program, may at least help to prevent the nipples from rebounding in size somewhat. Maybe help to sort of lock in those size gains at the end of my suction cup program. Again, I'll find out.

And of course there's the breast growth of 1-2 cup sizes. I am a natural C cup right now, so lactation would make me a D or E cup. Of course only a little over half of those size gains are permanent, the non permanent portion should shrink after the end of lactation. I do not know if there will be an end to lactation though. I plan to induce it not just for the size gains, but because I really want to experience lactation. I have a fairly well developed lactation fetish. And I just really want to know how it feels to lactate. If the sensation of my milk letting down is half as wonderful as I imagine it to be, I will probably maintain my lactation indefinitely. It depends on how enjoyable it is, and how much work it is (i know it will be a lot of work, but if it's fun enough, i don't mind).

Once I manage to induce lactation, I do plan to perform milkings "super-regularly" for a month or two. I want to see just how much milk production I am capable of, and that should help to achieve the maximum growth benefit as well. Lactation quantity responds pretty well to demand.

Stage 3:
...would be starting out with D/DD cup breasts, likely still lactating, and nipples at maximum natural growth size (not sure how big that will be).

My hopes for nipple enlargement size are similar to the broken off ends of a hot dog, and slightly longer than they are wide. Or "thumb sized", though not as long as an entire thumb, just perhaps an inch of it. Or the size of large thimbles for sewing. all of which are just different ways of describing a similar size.

If my nipples are still not up to my goal size, after long term aggressive suction cupping, and inducing lactation, then I will examine the possibility of enlarging them further with a modest amount of inject-able filler material (similar to how lips are enlarged). I am not interested in more severely invasive surgical techniques, and I am not interested in getting a large quantity of injectable filler material. The reason for this is that my nipples are very sensitive, and represent a huge part of my sexual arousal and response. I don't want to endanger that sensitivity. But a moderate amount of 'plumping' injection is on the table as an option, if my more natural methods do not quite reach my goals.

Also in stage 3, I will be looking into getting breast implants. My original idea for breast augmentation was to get fairly small implants, say 400cc, to enlarge my breasts to about an F-cup size, and provide a little perkier and more full appearance. In D/DD sized breasts, it wouldn't really be that large of a change, and would have a very natural look.

However, it's come to my attention that breast implants need to be similar in width to the width of the breasts they're going into. If they are more than about a centimeter wider than the breasts they're to be implanted into, there will be excessive stretching and increased likelihood of complications. If they are more than a centimeter or two narrower than the breasts they are to go into, then they may not stay centered correctly. So really, when choosing a breast implant, "breast width diameter" is an important starting point. From that base number, the you choose a breast implant in a width range of 2-3 centimeters, similar to your natural breast width. And then choose a higher or lower profile to reflect more or less 'fill' volume.

My breasts are "wide" though. Being an extremely tall and somewhat robustly built girl, my C cup breasts are wrapped round a rib cage which is larger than most girls, and the diameter of my breasts reflects this. So, While I lack the tools to do a proper breast width measurement, I have tries various methods to arrive at a reasonable estimate of my breast width diameter. The results range from 18-20cm. Breast implants in general are made for women smaller than myself, so this width is right at the large end of the range of breast implant sizes. To get an implant which is 18cm wide, I would be looking at 800cc low profile or moderate profile implants. Any higher profile would make them too narrow, even with 800cc of fill, because higher profile implants are 'rounder' while lower profile implants are more flat and broad in shape. I need the 'broad shape' of low or moderate profile implants, with about 800cc of fill, in order to get implants which are a good match to the width of my breasts. My personal preference is silicone gel, which is readily available in 800cc size low or moderate profile implants (I prefer moderate profile).  

So yeah... 800cc's... that's more than I had in mind. I am certain that at my large size, 800cc would be no problem to implant on a first operation. But that would be a solid 4 cup sizes... which would bring my D/DD breasts to an H/HH size. That's "big". Bigger than I had in mind... although the part of my brain where the boobie greed resides is very friendly to the idea of H/HH breasts. Another part of my mind really had wanted to get a breast size roughly: as large as I can get away with, and still be able to "dress them down" for social situations where having really obvious boobs is less appropriate. In other words, I wanted impressive tits, but the ability to make them less obvious. I fear that going any larger than F cup would put me in a position of being "all tits, all the time". So, H/HH cup breasts?? Part of me likes the sound of that, I admit, very much actually. But part of me is intimidated by the prospect of making my breasts so large that they become a defining physical trait that is obvious in 'any' outfit. I think it would be really 'hot', its just also a little worrisome.

I've done the rice test. To test properly, I've had to put 1100cc's of rice into stockings (natural C-cup + 300cc for lactation + 800cc implants). That's a lot of rice! crammed into a too-small sports bra so tight it's hard to breath... they still stick waaay out, and look 'massive' on me. In a full length mirror, even with my big amazon frame, they look huge, and the first thing to catch the eye is "giant tits". Do I want breasts that large? part of my mind says "why stop there?" hehe. But part of me is a little nervous about such an impressive size. I have to admit that with giant pointy nipples they would look more natural than most breasts that size. I've simulated the nipple look by putting the broken off ends of a hot dog in the bra, in front of the rice bags. It's a very striking look. And I have to admit, I like the fuller shape, it looks more perky, and eliminates any sagging. And although my rice test involves about 1100cc's of rice vs. 600cc's of breast flesh, the final result of my breast/nipple growth program would be more like 50-55% breast flesh 45-50% implant. So it would likely have softer lines.

Another possible option, is that they are testing a new "fat re-injection" method, which uses fatty tissue from liposuction to augment the breasts and possibly other areas of the body. This is not a new idea, but the older form of fat re-injection would turn out lumpy because the re-injected fat would have about a 50% mortality rate, as it would die before blood vessels could grow to supply nutrients to the fat cells. The new method takes about 2/3 of the liposuctioned fat tissue, and filters it to remove the stem cells from it. Then it takes these stem cells and mixes it into the other 1/3 of the liposuctioned fat tissue. The result is a smaller quantity of fat tissue, with 4x the density of stem cells normally present in fat tissue. This makes blood vessels grow much faster in the re-injected tissue, and they are seeing about a 90+ % survival rate for the re-injected fat tissue. That could make fat re-injection a much more valid method of minor augmentation (1-2 cup sizes) and other types of body augmentation including butt, lips, nipples, etc. (i'd be interested in the nipples, and maybe a little extra padding in back ). Also, with fat re-injection, the size/shape of augmentation is very highly customizable, which is nice. So if that trial goes well, and it becomes widely available, that's another option which would get me to a size somewhat closer to my original goal. Plus there's a possible side benefit of a little extra hip/butt curves, and perhaps an ideal nipple filler material. And technically, it would be "all me".


Ah well, stage 3 is still some time off in the future. I guess we'll see.

I know this is kinda "off-topic" and using an old part of the thread, but I swear the second I saw this line I thought to myself "This needs to be on a t-shirt"  

haha, that would make a decent tshirt, especially if it was worn by a woman who was 'nipping out' through the shirt

good call

(and don't worry about bringing up anything older in the thread, it's all part of the ongoing experiment/conversation to me PS, love that avatar!)

[madcow4]

Uhh, yeah... Will you have my babies, please?  

Can't really decide if it's the in depth smartiness of your methods or the attitude about DIY BE that's the turn on here, but it definitely hits a button somewhere.
 
Can't wait for stage 2 when that rolls around, be plenty descriptive if you get some results. .

Casual clothing shots would be nice if things really got going, but that's probably the voyeurism streak talking, the pervy smartass.

[etae]

This is interesting, thanks for detailing your experiences.

I know about the water blister thing from suctioning my wang, lol.  

What's your diet like?  If it was me I'd consider eating more proteins.  I'd also do more cardio exercise to promote healthy blood circulation.

Can't wait to read more progress.

and wow, i just realized this is my first post!

[Bad Kitty]

Uhh, yeah... Will you have my babies, please?  

Can't really decide if it's the in depth smartiness of your methods or the attitude about DIY BE that's the turn on here, but it definitely hits a button somewhere.
 
Can't wait for stage 2 when that rolls around, be plenty descriptive if you get some results. .

Casual clothing shots would be nice if things really got going, but that's probably the voyeurism streak talking, the pervy smartass.

actually i can't have babies, infertile. But that doesn't mean I can't practice and shouldn't interfere with inducing lactation.

I'm kinda a DIY kind of girl, in a lot of ways. Little bit of a mad scientist streak in me

I can't wait for stage 2 either! if it weren't for the fact that lactation would make me unable to grow my nipples with suction cups (because they'd fill with milk and pop off), I'd start early. But i'm going to have some patience so i can get some really luscious nipples hopefully But I've wanted to experience lactation for a long long time... it will be epic to finally do that Don't worry, i'll be plenty descriptive of my results when I get to stage 2.

I may do some casual clothing or thin/drapey clothing shots to help showcase things as they progress. Maybe I'll even do a nipple picture, in the name of science. hehe. I dunno.

This is interesting, thanks for detailing your experiences.

I know about the water blister thing from suctioning my wang, lol. 

What's your diet like?  If it was me I'd consider eating more proteins.  I'd also do more cardio exercise to promote healthy blood circulation.

Can't wait to read more progress.

and wow, i just realized this is my first post!

you got water blister thingies on your wang? I didn't know that happened on wangs hehe. were you able to find a level of suction that avoided that, but still offered a "firm pulling sensation"?

my diet, I'm actually getting a lot of protein. I'm trying to eat a lot of protein & fiber as my main food intake types. while minimizing fats & carbs. taking a multivitamin as well. I do exercise for circulation as well, (mostly on an eliptical machine i bought). My left leg got pretty banged up in a car accident a few years back, so keeping up good circulation is something that's 'extra' important to my health.

I can't wait to have more progress to write about for you to read

and grats on delurking!

[madcow4]

Yeah, it's totally the geeky girl biohacker vibe you have going, and how into it you are. Almost more of a raw happiness fetish than sexual, me thinks, though I guess sexuality would play a part. Consider priming with a noogleberry if it doesn't interfere with the nipple pumps, and/or TOB wiki's hypnosis track, since that was on your kink list a while back.

And an H cup is big, and is probably going to cut you off as far as formal wear goes, but sweats are in, in the future, right?

[yllwdeuce]

- You said in stage 2 you wouldn't be able to use nipple suction because they would fill with milk and pop off....but...what about using a breast pump, or any pump for that matter that could deliver suction while you sleep, but fill a container at the same time (like the automatic breast pumps). If you could regulate it to a constant suction, instead of pulsing...that would work, wouldn't it? Say, if you could pull 5Hg's of suction while you sleep (or less).

- I have a pump for my own scientific uses ( ) and while using it, I rarely go over 5Hg, which is quite alot for that area. As long as you get a good seal, I don't see why a pump like this http://www.mityvac.com/ couldn't be used in conjunction with your nipple cup.

I like where you're headed with all of your "studies"! You might want to check out (or maybe you already have) what some Japanese women have done with nipple expansion and lactation. That is a HUGE fetish in Japan!!!

[etae]

I didn't know that happened on wangs hehe. were you able to find a level of suction that avoided that, but still offered a "firm pulling sensation"?

It only happened once, and there was no pain at all, really.  I have no difficulty getting a firm pull, just have to be careful not to go overboard.  Like you've described, use low pressure and give yourself time.  Reading this thread offered useful info for my own "adventures."  Thanks. 

Any pictures you decide to post, especially in the name of science, would be fun to see.   

[Bad Kitty]

saw this over in the mirror mirror thread, it's a great example of the kind of nipples I want although i don't imagine i'll ever want to be that muscular, and I fancy a slightly more natural curve to the upper breasts.

[mail_cobra]

How are you going to induce?  The reason I ask is because we are about to start pumping, but we have been on birth control and domperidone for almost 9 months now.  If you are going to go the same route as us you could start the pills now and in 9 months be ready to start pumping.

[Bad Kitty]

Yeah, it's totally the geeky girl biohacker vibe you have going, and how into it you are. Almost more of a raw happiness fetish than sexual, me thinks, though I guess sexuality would play a part. Consider priming with a noogleberry if it doesn't interfere with the nipple pumps, and/or TOB wiki's hypnosis track, since that was on your kink list a while back.

And an H cup is big, and is probably going to cut you off as far as formal wear goes, but sweats are in, in the future, right?

"biohacker" i like that term, i'm definitely going to steal that
and yeah, i think it's fairly descriptive for me

I assure you though, that it's definitely got a carnal undercurrent throughout it

i may try the noogleberry nipple cups. and i am thinking about dabbling with some hypnosis tapes. what's in the TOB track?

as far as being on my kink list... erotic hypnosis is really more about taking an imaginary roleplay "scene" and making it come to life and seem real for one or more of the participants. basically creating the impossible, in a sort of fantasy which seems real. and really the sky is the limit for creativity in that kind of erotic play.

- You said in stage 2 you wouldn't be able to use nipple suction because they would fill with milk and pop off....but...what about using a breast pump, or any pump for that matter that could deliver suction while you sleep, but fill a container at the same time (like the automatic breast pumps). If you could regulate it to a constant suction, instead of pulsing...that would work, wouldn't it? Say, if you could pull 5Hg's of suction while you sleep (or less).

- I have a pump for my own scientific uses ( ) and while using it, I rarely go over 5Hg, which is quite alot for that area. As long as you get a good seal, I don't see why a pump like this http://www.mityvac.com/ couldn't be used in conjunction with your nipple cup.

I like where you're headed with all of your "studies"! You might want to check out (or maybe you already have) what some Japanese women have done with nipple expansion and lactation. That is a HUGE fetish in Japan!!!

the suction cups i currently have would not hook up to that pump you linked. but i'm sure i could find some that do. I may get that as well as what I already have.

a breast pump while I sleep? that could work. if i didn't roll over. I may try that when i get to stage 2

what are they doing with nipple expansion & lactation in japan???

It only happened once, and there was no pain at all, really.  I have no difficulty getting a firm pull, just have to be careful not to go overboard.  Like you've described, use low pressure and give yourself time.  Reading this thread offered useful info for my own "adventures."  Thanks. 

Any pictures you decide to post, especially in the name of science, would be fun to see.   

hehe, we'll see. there aren't any nude pics of myself on the internet, so it would be a significant departure.

How are you going to induce?  The reason I ask is because we are about to start pumping, but we have been on birth control and domperidone for almost 9 months now.  If you are going to go the same route as us you could start the pills now and in 9 months be ready to start pumping.

well, suckling & breast pumping are a big part of it. as well as frame of mind, i was thinking about some hypnosis tapes for the purpose of inducing lactation (maybe make them myself). and domperidone is an option, as well as the possibility of using a hormone cocktail to stimulate late stage pregnancy. possibly some progesterone cream as well. we'll see what becomes necessary.

[madcow4]

http://www.overflowingbra.com/wiki/natural_breast_growth:petitmorte_s_mp3

Should be a transcript in the zip file. Same guy had a fantasy track, but I think it's been lost to time. Email him and see if it's still floating around?

[mail_cobra]

Kitty, are you still progressing?

[Bad Kitty]

http://www.overflowingbra.com/wiki/natural_breast_growth:petitmorte_s_mp3

Should be a transcript in the zip file. Same guy had a fantasy track, but I think it's been lost to time. Email him and see if it's still floating around?

cool, I'll email him and see about that. a fantasy track you say? intriguing

Kitty, are you still progressing?

yep

i had to take like a week off though, blister issues. needed to completely heal, because they were recurring too easily. but yes, i'm still progressing with it they are still about the size of peanut m&m's, I want to get them to at least the size of grapes, or a bit more, before going to stage 2 (lactation).

[nikcm]

I love a huge gigantic nipples and areola as you are!)