The Sexworld; Or, a Thread In Which I Pontificate About My Favored Fantasy

[Shendude]

Hi, I'm Shendude. I've been posting on the Addventure for a few years now. Those of you familiar with my work will notice that I am rather fond of using scenarios in which a society exists without sexual taboos, which I refer to as a "sexworld". This is a long-standing fantasy of mine, and in fact is almost a fetish. I am also a big science fiction fan, and enjoy attempting to worldbuild. As a result, I have devoted an excessive amount of time to thinking about what an alternate universe that operates according to sexworld principles is like, developing all manner of random sociological details. The purposes of this thread is for me to discuss these details, partially in the hope that it will provide entertainment, provoke discussion, and/or inspire writing, and partially because I like talking about it.

I cannot promise that what I write in this thread will be in any sort of rational order, and it may at times be incoherent or rambling. The details are a strange combination of what I as a heterosexual male with moderately misogynistic harem fantasies find sexy or cool, and what I as a wanna-be sociologist think makes sense. Some of the stuff being touched on may be a tad squicky. The whole thing is implausible and ridiculous. You have been warned

The basic rules under which my conception of the Sexworld operates are:
-The non-existence of most sexual taboos, especially those concerning public displays of sexuality.
-A population that is universally sexually attractive, pansexual, polyamorous and possessed of great sexual appetite.
-A population that is overwhelmingly female.
-The rules of nature and of human psychology function somewhat differently so as to accommodate the above, and what derives from it.
-Is otherwise largely similar in history, culture, etc. to our world.

I will continue to elaborate and exposit on these themes and ideas, provided that anyone is interested.

EDIT: And it seems that, being an absent-minded sort, I left stuff out. This has now been corrected.

[Belle]

First question for Shendude,

What is your theory on 'how or why' sexworld developed instead of our actual reality?

Is it another dimension?  If so, are there magic or ultra science properties to sexworld? Or does it follow the same physical rules as our dimension? 
Is is an alternate timeline?  If so, how far back in history does it diverge?  What are the causes?

[Shendude]

First question for Shendude,

What is your theory on 'how or why' sexworld developed instead of our actual reality?

Is it another dimension?  If so, are there magic or ultra science properties to sexworld? Or does it follow the same physical rules as our dimension?  
Is is an alternate timeline?  If so, how far back in history does it diverge?  What are the causes?

I see it as an alternate universe, but not a true alternate timeline; there's no explicit point of divergence, it's just always been this way.

I admit, it's built on a lot of handwaving. Things work rather differently there than here, because they just do; ye old A Wizard Did It.

And since you brought up the handwaving, some of the ways that things are fundamentally different in order to support the scenario:

-So, as mentioned, everyone is sexually attractive from the moment they hit puberty to the day they die.
-The majority of the population is female by a considerable margin, such that many jobs that IRL are exclusively or primarily male are also open to females, but the culture is still basically patriarchal (actually the general resemblance to our world is itself a major handwave; logically a Sexworld culture would be completely alien)
-No STDs.
-No unwanted pregnancies.
-A more temperate climate, allowing people to walk around half-naked all the time (which is a major element of the fantasy that I somehow forgot to mention in the OP, absent-minded fool that I am); they usually aren't completely naked though, clothes still serving decorative and utilitarian purposes.
-People do not become jealous.
-People do not become jaded by constant semi-nudity, but are not completely distracted by it. The same goes for sex itself.
-Sex is less messy and unhygenic than IRL.
-Everyone has a strong moral impulse and will not take unwanted advantage.

There are other things, but they'll come up later. Anyways, speaking of that last point, **14** does not exist in the Sexworld, although this is partially because unlike in our world, where nonconsent is presumed unless otherwise specified, the opposite is true. Thus, there is absolutely nothing wrong with grabbing some random person on the street and sexing them up. On a similar token, leering, catcalling, and groping are perfectly acceptable modes of behavior: I have long had this image of a man from our world meeting a woman from the Sexworld, desperately trying not to look at her bare breasts, and being angrily told "eyes down here, jackass", or something of that ilk.

[Belle]

Right off the bat, sexworld would be really hard for me to write in.

If I can quote Syndrome from the Incredibles.. "and when everyone's Super.... no one will be."

In sexworld, if everyone is attractive.. then no one is.  To me, story lines are built on conflict.  If there isn't any conflict.. then it gets boring really fast.

No jealousy?  I can't even imagine how a world could operate without that emotion.

Maybe it's just me.. but I don't see the 'bad' things of the real world as unnecessary.  Dark exists so that we can have light.  Challenges exist so that we can rise, or hope to rise above them. 

Or perhaps I'm way off.

[Shendude]

Right off the bat, sexworld would be really hard for me to write in.

If I can quote Syndrome from the Incredibles.. "and when everyone's Super.... no one will be."

In sexworld, if everyone is attractive.. then no one is.

That is one of the things I'm handwaving.

 To me, story lines are built on conflict.  If there isn't any conflict.. then it gets boring really fast.

No jealousy?  I can't even imagine how a world could operate without that emotion.

No sexual jealousy, anyways. They are able to decouple sex and emotion.

So, banging a random stranger in the ass is fine. However, making love to your wife's best friend without telling her is a different story (note that the key point there is "without telling her"; in of itself no one would object to you having sex with your best friend's wife).

Speaking of marriage, it exists, but is somewhat different than our version; for one they obviously have no problems with same sex marriage, nor do they object to polygamy. All marriages are "open", but as mentioned above, there's a difference between sex-for-pleasure and sex-for-love, so it IS possible to cheat.

Maybe it's just me.. but I don't see the 'bad' things of the real world as unnecessary.  Dark exists so that we can have light.  Challenges exist so that we can rise, or hope to rise above them.  

Or perhaps I'm way off.

Well, I do mostly think of it in one of four fashions:
-A "travelogue", exploring how the Sexworld is different from our own. For example, in a world where sex isn't a taboo, what's it like being a nun? (I'll elaborate on this one in a later post BTW)
-A crossover, wherein someone from our world finds his or herself in the Sexworld, and adapts to the local mores. Like say, a teenager is hit on by a hot girl...and her twin brother.
-As fanfiction, depicting the Sexworld version of such-and-such a work. I have a couple different thoughts about these, which again, I will elucidate at some later date. Suffice to say that such a tale would have the sex interwoven with other stuff.
-As a plotless stroke story. This one requires no elaboration.

[JH_]

That's very interesting. For someone from outside the US, who has no idea what **14** refers to, would you be willing to briefly explain it?

I must admit that I too find it hard to imagine a world peopled by human beings where jealousy wouldn't exist. And the "everyone has a strong moral impulse and will not take unwanted advantage" is rather hard for me to believe as well.

[gonZo]

**14* means r@pe. It's automatically censored by the board software.

[Shendude]

That's very interesting. For someone from outside the US, who has no idea what **14** refers to, would you be willing to briefly explain it?

We have a censor here. For some reason, I did not know that: I meant r4pe, or r@pe, or rap3, whichever substitution works best for you.

EDIT: Ninja'd.

I must admit that I too find it hard to imagine a world peopled by human beings where jealousy wouldn't exist. And the "everyone has a strong moral impulse and will not take unwanted advantage" is rather hard for me to believe as well.

Oh, absolutely. As I said, the whole thing is implausible and ridiculous, and requires massive handwaving in order to function.

[JH_]

Thanks to you and Gonzo for the explanation.

[Shendude]

Just a clarification: when I say that there's no jealousy in the Sexworld and that everyone keeps to a high moral/ethical standard, I was specifically referring to their sexual behavior.

Moving on: as mentioned, the massive cultural differences a free-love society logically should produce do not occur; for example, most media products are essentially the same, just with more sex going on. BTW, porn as as a separate genre doesn't exist since, everything is porn. On the subject of erotic entertainment, both striptease and prostitution exist, but in a rather different form; stripping is considered a legitimate form of dance, with the best strippers having the same cachet as IRL ballet dancers. Prostitution is a similarly high-class affair; there are courtesans but no streetwalkers.

Gong back to cultural differences, let's talk about religion. Again, it's mostly the same as IRL, but with a few weirdnesses thrown in. Examples: Prudery replaces Lust as one of the Seven Deadly Sins; Catholic priests (who come in both genders) are allowed to have sex all they want and are merely forbidden from marrying and having children; Monks and Nuns merely refrain from heterosexual vaginal intercourse, with all other sex being acceptable; Islamic fundamentalists demand that their women wear revealing instead of concealing garments.

You know what I said about some bits are kinda squicky? Well, here it is; the Sexworld take on inc3st, b3tiality, and p3dophilia.

Inc3st is the least complicated of these to discuss; the taboo does not exist, and it is expected that people will fuck their close blood relatives. In fact, not doing so is considered odd.

B3stiality is also not taboo, but is not as common as inc3st; the vast majority of the population does not generally perceive animals as sex objects, and do not actively pursue sex with them. However, if an animal's owner offers said animal for sex, most Sexworld natives will accept. Dairy farms raise bulls for semen only slightly less than they raise cows for milk.

Many pets are trained to pleasure their owners, and there are some breeds of cats, dogs, etc. bred expressly for that purpose. It is also not uncommon for people to demonstrate their affection for their pets in sexual ways; thus Sexworld dog-owner is just as likely to masturbate or give oral sex to their dog as they are to pet them. A similar approach occurs in non-pet domesticated animals, such as cattle, horses, etc. Wild animals are another story; if it isn't safe to pet 'em IRL, it's not safe to fuck 'em on the Sexworld. It should be noted that on the Sexworld, animals are more amenable to human attempts to fuck them, and the various problems regarding organ and orfice compatibility is magicked away.

P3dophilia, in the sense of sexual attraction to prepubescent children, simply does not exist in the Sexworld. Nonetheless, there are many common behaviors that would be considered ch1ld molestation IRL. To begin with, there is no concept of statutory r4pe; one becomes legal the very moment one is physically capable of having sex, and being able to do so at an early age is considered something to be proud of. However, one should keep in mind that due to the universally high ethical standard of the Sexworld, no one would ever think of attempting to engage in sex with someone who has not yet reached that stage.

Despite this, children are not "protected" from sex; far from it. Telling a parent that, say their 6YO daughter has a beautiful pussy (Sexworld children wear the same sort of "revealing" clothing as their parents), will be received in the same way as telling said parent that the girl has a beautiful smile. No differentation is made between giving a kid a peck on the cheek or a hug, and giving a kid a french kiss or quick grope. Children's toys are "anatomically correct", cartoon animals have prominent humanlike sexual attributes, and children's entertainment usually contains graphic depictions of every kind of sex act. Just as IRL there is a subgenere of kiddie entertainment in which children are doing grown up things such as working or going on adventures, Sexworld has kiddie programs depicting kids having sex, either with other kids or adults.

Children are encouraged to explore their bodies, and those of other children, and to simulate sexual activities in their play, including masturbation, heavy petting, oral sex, and actual intercourse. Sexworld children do not go through a "cootie" stage where they decide the opposite sex is disgusting and must be avoided; however, they will for a time focus their play-sex on members of their own gender.

Finally, children are periodically permitted to use their hands and mouths to help parents, older siblings, teachers, etc. to get off. This is widely considered a great treat.

[Zorlond]

It's kinda amazing our view of fantasy worlds line up this well, Shendude. Well, I wouldn't write any b3astiality and homosexuality, (though I'm quite open to furries) but the rest is pretty spot-on. If I may ask, what's your view on physical development? You do specify that everyone's attractive, but that's a little on the vauge side.

Also...

-No unwanted pregnancies.

Obviously you mean that pregnancies only occour if those involved actually want it to. At least, more than simply 'insert tab A into slot B repeatedly until pregnancy occours'. My own tastes would be towards the "because they're all wanted" interpretation of this point, but that's just my own mental image full of hordes of pregnant women. At that point, Logic taps me on the mental shoulder and points out a few things about population, and it kinda all goes squicky from there.... Sometimes I can't hand-wave Logic away. I can understand why you'd rather avoid pregnancies for the most part.

For Belle, I'd like to say that I can see where you're coming from, and agree that some measure and angle of conflict is needed in a story. I do like Shendude's approach (person with RL views of sex suddenly being in Sexworld), but I'd like to offer an alternative, where RL views of sex exist simultaneously with the Sexworld views. As in, two sets of population, one akin to RL, other straight Sexworld. And the two either interact with a very complicated set of unspoken rules and instances, or the Sexworld actions are completely ignored by the RL population. Am I getting the concept clear enough?

[Shendude]

It's kinda amazing our view of fantasy worlds line up this well, Shendude. Well, I wouldn't write any b3astiality and homosexuality, (though I'm quite open to furries) but the rest is pretty spot-on. If I may ask, what's your view on physical development? You do specify that everyone's attractive, but that's a little on the vauge side.

It's deliberately vague, in large part because I don't really have a consistent idea of what I view as sexually attractive. I'm a bit weird in that I am more easily aroused by the written word than by images; a character described in prose as being sexy may appeal to me, but I might find the actual person less so.

There is also the fact that actual physical appearance is only aspect of what makes a person sexually attractive; how they think of themselves, and the resultant affect on how they hold themselves and move and act, also has an effect. I imagine many Sexworlders come off as sexier than they actually are, simply because they think of themselves as sexually attractive beings and act accordingly.

I do believe that there are degrees of beauty in the Sexworld, with some people being more or less attractive that others.

Also...

Obviously you mean that pregnancies only occour if those involved actually want it to. At least, more than simply 'insert tab A into slot B repeatedly until pregnancy occours'. My own tastes would be towards the "because they're all wanted" interpretation of this point, but that's just my own mental image full of hordes of pregnant women. At that point, Logic taps me on the mental shoulder and points out a few things about population, and it kinda all goes squicky from there.... Sometimes I can't hand-wave Logic away. I can understand why you'd rather avoid pregnancies for the most part.

Ee-yup. I personally don't find pregnant chicks particularly attractive, but see my first point.

I have, as you'll recall from JE/AWW, occasionally gone rather more "extreme" in my conceptions of the Sexworld, but that's an outlier.

For Belle, I'd like to say that I can see where you're coming from, and agree that some measure and angle of conflict is needed in a story. I do like Shendude's approach (person with RL views of sex suddenly being in Sexworld), but I'd like to offer an alternative, where RL views of sex exist simultaneously with the Sexworld views. As in, two sets of population, one akin to RL, other straight Sexworld. And the two either interact with a very complicated set of unspoken rules and instances, or the Sexworld actions are completely ignored by the RL population. Am I getting the concept clear enough?

Not sure. Are you thinking of something akin to a sexier version of China Mieville's novel The City and the City?

I have envisioned an idea for a somewhat dry and sociopolitical account of contact between the Sexworld and our world, but I've never gotten very far with it (asides from envisioning some Sexworld religious fundamentalists denouncing our depraved prudery , while more reasonable religious types decide that obviously it was God's will that the two worlds be different on spend their energies figuring out why), but that's something else and intended more as a stepping stone for stories about people emigrating to the Sexworld (as opposed to finding themselves there by accident); I specifically have thoughts for a nuclear family who move their because of the father's work (and in fact started an Addventured thread about it, which sadly went nowhere), and about a mobster who goes there to hide out and starts working for their version of the mob.

[Zorlond]

Not sure. Are you thinking of something akin to a sexier version of China Mieville's novel The City and the City?

Huh, that book sounds quite interesting. But from the description on the Wiki page, it sounds like the behavior is enforced by the local government. I was thinking more of an instinctual level, perhaps after The City and the City had gone on for a few thousand years, and Breach had closed up shop because it didn't have anything to do. So yeah, something a bit similar, I guess. There's multiple ways to approach it, of course, depending on mood/setting.

[Catfish]

I've certainly toyed with ideas that are somewhat along these lines. In my conception of a "sexworld," technological development didn't happen quite as fast as it did in our world, since people were slightly too busy having sex to invent things. I used that idea in, for example, this Addventure episode, in which a reality change to a world with more sex has caused technology to suddenly be about 50 years behind.

And I didn't get into it there, but I think art and music would suffer as well, given that most art and music is created by people in order to impress members of the opposite sex (or same sex, as the case may be) in order to get laid.

[DruulEmpire]

Catfish, hi, I may just want to add to that, thanks for pointing it out.

[Shendude]

Huh, that book sounds quite interesting.

It is. Mieville's a fantastic writer, although I personally feel he takes himself too seriously. But that's a tanget we won't go into.

But from the description on the Wiki page, it sounds like the behavior is enforced by the local government. I was thinking more of an instinctual level, perhaps after The City and the City had gone on for a few thousand years, and Breach had closed up shop because it didn't have anything to do. So yeah, something a bit similar, I guess. There's multiple ways to approach it, of course, depending on mood/setting.

Interesting. So what stories do you envision writing in such a setting?

Oddly, one of my oldest sexual fantasies, a proto-sexworld concept if you will, is of a naked man entering a classroom, banging the hot teacher's brains out, and then leaving without the teacher ceasing her lecture or anyone batting an eye.

BTW, looking back at your previous post I realzie I didn't answer your actual question, as I'm not entirely sure as to what you meant by "what's your view on physical development".

I've certainly toyed with ideas that are somewhat along these lines. In my conception of a "sexworld," technological development didn't happen quite as fast as it did in our world, since people were slightly too busy having sex to invent things. I used that idea in, for example, this Addventure episode, in which a reality change to a world with more sex has caused technology to suddenly be about 50 years behind.

And I didn't get into it there, but I think art and music would suffer as well, given that most art and music is created by people in order to impress members of the opposite sex (or same sex, as the case may be) in order to get laid.

I actually continued that thread.

It's an idea that makes sense, but I personally feel that it leads to a slippery slope; if you acknowledge that aspect of difference, it's harder to handwave away the fact that their society and history ought to be completely alien to ours.

[Zorlond]

Interesting. So what stories do you envision writing in such a setting?

In a future-extension The City and the City setting? Well, this is just off the top of my head, and keeping in mind that I haven't actually read the book, but how about following a handful of couples who are hot-n-horny for each other, finding 'private' and 'quiet' locations outdoors in which to have sex? Said locations would, of course, be deep within the other City, on busy street corners, public shopping areas, and so on. Said couples would think they're just out in nature away from the city, with no one around. While the crowds bustling around them would not notice the two screwing noisily in full view.

But again, that's just off the top of my head, it could use a little work. Normally what level of 'ignorance' I'm using isn't that extreme, and the two groups do have some level of awareness of each other, if not what they're doing.

Oddly, one of my oldest sexual fantasies, a proto-sexworld concept if you will, is of a naked man entering a classroom, banging the hot teacher's brains out, and then leaving without the teacher ceasing her lecture or anyone batting an eye.

Pretty hot. I can imagine the hot teacher having a little trouble continuing the lesson as she starts getting out of breath...

BTW, looking back at your previous post I realzie I didn't answer your actual question, as I'm not entirely sure as to what you meant by "what's your view on physical development".

Well this is the BEA, innit? Bust size/shape can scale pretty widely across this group. From realistic large (D-G), to unnatural large (Chelsea Charms), to the absurd (beanbag chairs). Same goes for male development, as well as puberty onset. Physical sexual development can be pretty varied. Do you see any particular pattern working out in your Sexworld? Even if it's a bit on the vague side?

[Shendude]

In a future-extension The City and the City setting? Well, this is just off the top of my head, and keeping in mind that I haven't actually read the book, but how about following a handful of couples who are hot-n-horny for each other, finding 'private' and 'quiet' locations outdoors in which to have sex? Said locations would, of course, be deep within the other City, on busy street corners, public shopping areas, and so on. Said couples would think they're just out in nature away from the city, with no one around. While the crowds bustling around them would not notice the two screwing noisily in full view.

But again, that's just off the top of my head, it could use a little work. Normally what level of 'ignorance' I'm using isn't that extreme, and the two groups do have some level of awareness of each other, if not what they're doing.

One of us is confused. Probably me. You said you had a thought about how you'd like to see a sexworld operate. I gave an example of what I perceived to be something of that ilk. You used that to clarify your point. Once I understood your point, I asked how you figure it working...and you start talking about the example.

Pretty hot. I can imagine the hot teacher having a little trouble continuing the lesson as she starts getting out of breath...

Indeed.

Well this is the BEA, innit? Bust size/shape can scale pretty widely across this group. From realistic large (D-G), to unnatural large (Chelsea Charms), to the absurd (beanbag chairs). Same goes for male development, as well as puberty onset. Physical sexual development can be pretty varied. Do you see any particular pattern working out in your Sexworld? Even if it's a bit on the vague side?

I know feel like an idiot for not realizing that's what you meant. I really wish I had a facepalm emoticon; the board's current one for embarrassment doesn't convey it it all well IMO.

So, to answer the question, no. Every type of physical beauty is represented on the Sexworld. There are even people who are deformed in various ways, but in a way that makes them exotic rather than ugly...well unless you're close-minded.

[Zorlond]

One of us is confused. Probably me.

Oh blarg... No, I'm the one who screwed up there. You asked what kind of stories, meaning what mechanism it would be using to allow such scenes to happen.

That's kinda the thing, the mechanism could be a number of things. Magic altering people's minds and/or perceptions so they just don't see what's being blocked, psychological causes where the people are essentially doing it to themselves without realizing it (consider hoarding, where the afflicted people literally cannot see/comprehend the mess around them), or possibly some chemical in the air/water that achieves much the same. The why and who is similarly flexible, but in addition to the 'world exploration' kind of story you mentioned earlier, can also feature people who are simply immune to whatever is limiting perceptions (for whatever reason, beneficiary, bystander, or opposer). Hope that's a bit clearer...

[Belle]

..the mechanism could be a number of things. Magic altering people's minds and/or perceptions so they just don't see what's being blocked, psychological causes where the people are essentially doing it to themselves without realizing it (consider hoarding, where the afflicted people literally cannot see/comprehend the mess around them), or possibly some chemical in the air/water that achieves much the same. The why and who is similarly flexible, but in addition to the 'world exploration' kind of story you mentioned earlier, can also feature people who are simply immune to whatever is limiting perceptions (for whatever reason, beneficiary, bystander, or opposer). Hope that's a bit clearer...

I'm with Catfish.  There would be so much "lost" by removing any type of courting process, that it almost seems as though this entire world simply fall apart.  It needs a unified theory to keep it together.

Rather than starting with a RL world and then suppressing the natural tendencies of people to feel embarrassed or judgmental or repressed or awkward...  why not start from scratch and invent a global mechanism that establishes these new mindsets without the need for chemicals or hand waving?

For example, let's steal from Piers Anthony's Xanth.  (I know its a k1ds series, but bear with me.)  One of the Gods who helped create the universe needed to take a moment (millions of years) to sit down and think about a problem.  So, he sat down in a cave on Earth and got to thinking.  The magic from is Aura was so strong that it leached out into the planet and soaked into the earth encompassing an area about the size of the State of Florida.  Everyone born within this area was born with a Magic talent.  Early on, the great Magicians figured out how to make Florida disappear, etc.

So, lets take this idea and adapt it to Sexworld.  The Goddess of Sex.. whoever you may want to choose, be it Venus or Ishtar, or a new one you invent.. perhaps a superbusty one.. sits down one day on Earth to contemplate whether she wants to go bigger or not.. or whatever.  Being immortal, time is irrelevant.. so she's in no hurry.. after all it took her a hundred thousand years to pick her last hair style.

Her aura leaks into the planet into an area making it not invisible.. but instead making it so that normal mortals CAN NOT notice it.  They could stare right at it on a map, and their eyes will slide off of it.  It's always been there, but mortals can not even force themselves to recognize it.  So nobody lived there for a long time.. but of course, accidents happen and some ancient settlers ended up losing control of their horses or whatever and ended up crossing into sexworld (you could even name it something else).

However, don't get your hopes up.  They weren't immediately transformed or anything like that.  As a matter of fact, a lot of things about this new place were quite ordinary.  It is up to the author whether he would like to go into greater detail about whether sexworld has different physics or plantlife or whatever due to the aura.  But it could be fun to explore these parameters.  Perhaps all of the animals are extremely sexual or whatever.
Anyways, the settlers keep exploring until they find a cave and move in and start having ch1ldr3n.  But then something is quite different about their ch1ldr3n.  These are k1ds that develop according to your overall premise.  Their inhibitions are changed.  They have different motives and extraordinary sexual appetites, etc.  Their bodies are way different.. and so.. a new type of human develops.  Can they exist outside of sexworld?  Absolutely.  And the outside world stumbles into this world and gets absorbed. But the culture inside of sexworld is way different.  Like you said before, these individuals have no taboos, because of the Goddess.. most of them are female, the climate is regulated by the aura, people naturally take on the psychological attributes of the Goddess, her perversions, her fairness, her beauty, her desires.  Their bodies are more advanced, but varied.  No diseases or std's.  Perhaps there is a PURE line of individuals, who have never mixed with the outside world, never. And they have become the ruling line, the royals.  their bloodline is so pure that they can actually manipulate their own flesh to change, expand.  Perhaps it takes a lot of concentration, or very few can do it.

Take it a step further and develop a prophecy.  Create a storyline around the ONE who will come.  It will be an outsider.  He will mate with the princess.  Something great will happen.. perhaps the Goddess will awaken once this happens.  Who knows.

I'm just rambling here.. trying to make the mechanism make sense.  Take it with a grain of salt.

[Shendude]

Oh blarg... No, I'm the one who screwed up there. You asked what kind of stories, meaning what mechanism it would be using to allow such scenes to happen.

That wasn't really what I was asking either. Let's just drop it before we get even more confused, and see if we can find a variation on the topic that is more conversable.

I'm with Catfish.  There would be so much "lost" by removing any type of courting process, that it almost seems as though this entire world simply fall apart.  It needs a unified theory to keep it together.

I wouldn't quite say that there is no courting process, it's just that the goal is different (romance, rather than "just" sex)

Rather than starting with a RL world and then suppressing the natural tendencies of people to feel embarrassed or judgmental or repressed or awkward...  why not start from scratch and invent a global mechanism that establishes these new mindsets without the need for chemicals or hand waving?

For example, let's steal from Piers Anthony's Xanth.  (I know its a k1ds series, but bear with me.)  One of the Gods who helped create the universe needed to take a moment (millions of years) to sit down and think about a problem.  So, he sat down in a cave on Earth and got to thinking.  The magic from is Aura was so strong that it leached out into the planet and soaked into the earth encompassing an area about the size of the State of Florida.  Everyone born within this area was born with a Magic talent.  Early on, the great Magicians figured out how to make Florida disappear, etc.

So, lets take this idea and adapt it to Sexworld.  The Goddess of Sex.. whoever you may want to choose, be it Venus or Ishtar, or a new one you invent.. perhaps a superbusty one.. sits down one day on Earth to contemplate whether she wants to go bigger or not.. or whatever.  Being immortal, time is irrelevant.. so she's in no hurry.. after all it took her a hundred thousand years to pick her last hair style.

Her aura leaks into the planet into an area making it not invisible.. but instead making it so that normal mortals CAN NOT notice it.  They could stare right at it on a map, and their eyes will slide off of it.  It's always been there, but mortals can not even force themselves to recognize it.  So nobody lived there for a long time.. but of course, accidents happen and some ancient settlers ended up losing control of their horses or whatever and ended up crossing into sexworld (you could even name it something else).

However, don't get your hopes up.  They weren't immediately transformed or anything like that.  As a matter of fact, a lot of things about this new place were quite ordinary.  It is up to the author whether he would like to go into greater detail about whether sexworld has different physics or plantlife or whatever due to the aura.  But it could be fun to explore these parameters.  Perhaps all of the animals are extremely sexual or whatever.
Anyways, the settlers keep exploring until they find a cave and move in and start having ch1ldr3n.  But then something is quite different about their ch1ldr3n.  These are k1ds that develop according to your overall premise.  Their inhibitions are changed.  They have different motives and extraordinary sexual appetites, etc.  Their bodies are way different.. and so.. a new type of human develops.  Can they exist outside of sexworld?  Absolutely.  And the outside world stumbles into this world and gets absorbed. But the culture inside of sexworld is way different.  Like you said before, these individuals have no taboos, because of the Goddess.. most of them are female, the climate is regulated by the aura, people naturally take on the psychological attributes of the Goddess, her perversions, her fairness, her beauty, her desires.  Their bodies are more advanced, but varied.  No diseases or std's.  Perhaps there is a PURE line of individuals, who have never mixed with the outside world, never. And they have become the ruling line, the royals.  their bloodline is so pure that they can actually manipulate their own flesh to change, expand.  Perhaps it takes a lot of concentration, or very few can do it.

Take it a step further and develop a prophecy.  Create a storyline around the ONE who will come.  It will be an outsider.  He will mate with the princess.  Something great will happen.. perhaps the Goddess will awaken once this happens.  Who knows.

I'm just rambling here.. trying to make the mechanism make sense.  Take it with a grain of salt.

I like this. Not quite what I had in mind, but a quite lovely riff on the idea.

So, are you suggesting that these sexworld people slowly assimilate the rest of the world, or am I misreading things?

[Belle]

I like this. Not quite what I had in mind, but a quite lovely riff on the idea.

So, are you suggesting that these sexworld people slowly assimilate the rest of the world, or am I misreading things?

It would be up to you if there was an ultimate ulterior motive of the people of sexworld to assimilate the real world that is outside of their boundaries.. but I think it would be cooler if they didn't actually care about the "outside" world.  They are too enamored and caught up in their own world.  And although they realize that there is an 'outside' world, most of them have no interest in getting involved with it.  Why would they when their world is so awesome.

However, because of the 'properties' of sexworld causing normal mortals to naturally avoid it and ignore its existence, the only people that actually stumble into sexworld are by pure accident.  Once they visit sexworld.. most of them would never want to leave and become assimilated.  So, no.. I wouldn't say that the rest of the world would slowly become assimilated.  Also, sexworld has a defined boundary.. the rest of the world couldn't fit inside of it.  The aura only reaches out so far.. about the size of a small country. 

The cool part is that if you or I accidentally got into sexworld, we would retain our mortal standards.. either for a while or forever, while enjoying the insane sexuality of the general populace.  From our standpoint, it would be surreal, because we would be the only ones that actually had a RL perspective.

It's the authors choice on whether the RL visitors would slowly change over their lifetime to become more and more like sexworld people.. or if perhaps they could go through some sort of ceremony that would physically and emotionally change them.. or if they would never change at all.

Another twist would be when a sexworld woman accidentally ventured too far and found herself going into the Real World.  Imagine how insanely sexual she would seem, walking around either naked or half-naked wanting to fuck whatever she wanted.  Her pheromones barraging the local population of men, driving them crazy with lust.
If she got lost out there, the royal counsel within sexworld may approach one of the RL indoctrinated outsiders that they trust and send him on a quest to travel back into the RL to find her and bring her back.  That would be a fun story to write.

[Shendude]

It would be up to you if there was an ultimate ulterior motive of the people of sexworld to assimilate the real world that is outside of their boundaries.. but I think it would be cooler if they didn't actually care about the "outside" world.  They are too enamored and caught up in their own world.  And although they realize that there is an 'outside' world, most of them have no interest in getting involved with it.  Why would they when their world is so awesome.

However, because of the 'properties' of sexworld causing normal mortals to naturally avoid it and ignore its existence, the only people that actually stumble into sexworld are by pure accident.  Once they visit sexworld.. most of them would never want to leave and become assimilated.  So, no.. I wouldn't say that the rest of the world would slowly become assimilated.  Also, sexworld has a defined boundary.. the rest of the world couldn't fit inside of it.  The aura only reaches out so far.. about the size of a small country.

I was thinking int terms of gradual, voluntary assimilation rather than something more insidious, with the aura slowly expanding as the population swells.

The cool part is that if you or I accidentally got into sexworld, we would retain our mortal standards.. either for a while or forever, while enjoying the insane sexuality of the general populace.  From our standpoint, it would be surreal, because we would be the only ones that actually had a RL perspective.

It's the authors choice on whether the RL visitors would slowly change over their lifetime to become more and more like sexworld people.. or if perhaps they could go through some sort of ceremony that would physically and emotionally change them.. or if they would never change at all.

I would argue for a partial change overtime; they never fully leave behind their old morals, but the body changes to suit sexworld norms, which combined with the effect of being immersed in such an attractive culture, causes psychological change.

Another twist would be when a sexworld woman accidentally ventured too far and found herself going into the Real World.  Imagine how insanely sexual she would seem, walking around either naked or half-naked wanting to fuck whatever she wanted.  Her pheromones barraging the local population of men, driving them crazy with lust.
If she got lost out there, the royal counsel within sexworld may approach one of the RL indoctrinated outsiders that they trust and send him on a quest to travel back into the RL to find her and bring her back.  That would be a fun story to write.

I agree. Perhaps we should?

And since I haven't actually been doing much pontificating lately, for your possible enjoyment:

Years ago, on another board, I created a thread listing various sexworld and sexworldesque stories I found. Be warned that some of the links may be broken.

And back to pontificating, one of the things I like to do with the sexworld concept is to attempt to reimagine various works of fiction and mythology as they'd be in the sexworld. Asides from the obvious things, I tend to change most (but not all) of the male characters into female ones, due to sexworld's majority-female populace.

For example, I envision Captain Kirk being the only male castmember on the Original Star Trek, that he is regularly shown screwing the various members of the crew, that the various members of the crew are regularly shown screwing each other, that the famous "boot scenes" are replaced by him actually screwing the sexy female guest stars, and that he also periodically screws sexy MALE guest stars.

[Belle]

However.. I do need to ask.. where does the Breast Expansion fit into all of this?  If it is just a "secondary" concern.. if you have to 'shoe-horn' it into the stories.. then I become uninterested.

If all I wanted was erotic fiction, there's a whole universe of it over at Literotica.  What sets our writing apart is the mechanism of expansion that is not only present in the stories.. but is the REASON for the stories.

That being said, how do you envision the aspect of BE in your world?  As a driving force or lucky happenstance?

[Shendude]

However.. I do need to ask.. where does the Breast Expansion fit into all of this?  If it is just a "secondary" concern.. if you have to 'shoe-horn' it into the stories.. then I become uninterested.

If all I wanted was erotic fiction, there's a whole universe of it over at Literotica.  What sets our writing apart is the mechanism of expansion that is not only present in the stories.. but is the REASON for the stories.

That being said, how do you envision the aspect of BE in your world?  As a driving force or lucky happenstance?

For the specific variant you suggested, well remember what I said about people coming to the sexworld experiencing physical changes? Yeah, that's one of the reasons I suggested it be that way.

In general? Truthfully, I post here because of the three erotic Addventures I'm aware of the BEA is the best, not because I am particularly into BE.

[Belle]

...not because I am particularly into BE.

.. just making sure I heard you right..

[Shendude]

.. just making sure I heard you right..

I enjoy BE, but it's not my primary fetish/fantasy; the sexworld is. So, I can adapt the sexworld to have BE, but it's not the focus. You dig?

[Shendude]

Oh, dear. I really I hope I didn't kill this thread.

Anyways, presuming that the lack of activity in the last few days is due to people being busy rather than my having scared anyone off, methinks that from here on out, Belle's idea should be referred to as "sexland", so as to distinguish it from my "standard" sexworld concept. Speaking of the latter, as I mentioned, I've done a lot of thinking vis a vis, coming up with sexworld versions of various things, some of which I have attempted to make into  addventure threads. I shall now share some with you; questions, comments, expansions, etc. are, as always appreciated. I will begin with thoughts about the Sexworld versions of Disney's Aladdin:

To begin with, as befits the skewed gender ratio of the sexworld, the only males who appear in the film are Aladdin, Rajah, Iago, and arguably the Cave of Wonders (which remains basically the same, as I can't think of a way to sexualize it and still keep it's neccesary scariness). Asides from those three and the androgynous Carpet, every character in the film, both main, secondary, and background, is a hot babe. Yes, that includes Jafar (ESPECIALLY Jafar), Abu, and the Genie.

Naturally, the costumes are different; Aladdin's standard costume is just the hat, vest, and belt; no pants. Jasmine's outfit is see-through; so are the pants worn by the guards. The outfits worn by other characters are also different, but I haven't figured out how yet.

The only character who does not have prominent sexual attributes (genitalia, nippled breasts, asses), is the Carpet, which uses its tassels to get people off instead. This includes the nonhuman characters, who's attributes are all humanlike, despite the illogic of it.

As our main characters, Aladdin and Jasmine have the most sex; in fact, they will be shown engaging in some kind of sexy activity with every primary and secondary character except the peddler from the framing sequence & Jafar's thief from the opening. I am not entirely certain what form these will take, except to state that Aladdin will be fucking Abu a lot (although I admit I'm not sure how he'll do it after Abu becomes an elephant), that the chief guard fucks him up the ass with a strap-on at one point, and that he jerks off Iago when he gets in Jafar's face as Prince Ali. The secondary characters will also often be shown having sex with each other in various combinations.


Here are are also some VERY short ideas for things that would happen in other Disney films:

WINNIE THE POOH: Pooh gorges at Christina Robins honeypot.
101 DALMATIANS: Pongo and Perdy make Cruella their bitch.
THE LITTLE MERMAID: Ariel rides Ursula's tentacles.
PETER PAN: Peter and Tink deflower Wendy and her sisters.
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST: Belle and the Beast get horizontal on the ballroom floor.
SNOW WHITE: Snow gets gangbanged by both the dwarves and her animal friends.
SLEEPING BEAUTY: "Love's first kiss" isn't delivered to Aurora's mouth.

[Belle]

Sexland?  Cool.

It's not you, it's this forum.  The plume is very slow moving.  If you want a more active discussion with lots of input, I'd suggest the author's forum over at literotica.  Especially since BE is not the main focus of your world.

[Shendude]

Sexland?  Cool.

It's not you, it's this forum.  The plume is very slow moving.  If you want a more active discussion with lots of input, I'd suggest the author's forum over at literotica.  Especially since BE is not the main focus of your world.

Unfortunately, Lit forbids discussion of some of this stuff, and also I'm not a proper writer. I can write Addventure posts, but not proper stories.

[Catfish]

Are you familiar with the artwork of Julius Zimmerman? He's done many drawings of the Disney princesses that could be straight out of the Sexworld versions of their movies (well, except that most are black-and-white).

[naken]

Rule1 of fiction: don’t over-analyze. Write the damn story, already! Don’t try working every last detail out, a basic idea is enough to start with. Reality is the only thing that can be completely consistent and perfectly detailed; fiction can never be. Particularly interesting fiction that is worth reading.

Rule 2: don’t explain everything up front. Are you writing a story or a textbook? Too often I see an attempt to try define the whole universe of the story at the start—that’s just boring. Well-timed revelations can be used to heighten the drama. And if some things are never explained at all ... what of it? A bit of ambiguity can often heighten the mood.

In short, go read a bunch of real fiction, and see how it is constructed. Think about a story you just enjoyed: why was it worth reading? How did it make you feel, and how did it achieve that? Rinse and repeat, a few hundred times. You can learn a lot.

[Shendude]

Are you familiar with the artwork of Julius Zimmerman? He's done many drawings of the Disney princesses that could be straight out of the Sexworld versions of their movies (well, except that most are black-and-white).

Ee-yup, although I can't seem to get the Z-Portal website to work.

Rule1 of fiction: don’t over-analyze. Write the damn story, already! Don’t try working every last detail out, a basic idea is enough to start with. Reality is the only thing that can be completely consistent and perfectly detailed; fiction can never be. Particularly interesting fiction that is worth reading.

Rule 2: don’t explain everything up front. Are you writing a story or a textbook? Too often I see an attempt to try define the whole universe of the story at the start—that’s just boring. Well-timed revelations can be used to heighten the drama. And if some things are never explained at all ... what of it? A bit of ambiguity can often heighten the mood.

In short, go read a bunch of real fiction, and see how it is constructed. Think about a story you just enjoyed: why was it worth reading? How did it make you feel, and how did it achieve that? Rinse and repeat, a few hundred times. You can learn a lot.

I actually have written a few hundred Addventure posts (which, as I said, is the extent of my writing capacity) in various variations on the sexworld setting, with varying degrees of success. The purpose of this thread is mostly because talking and thinking about the sexworld makes me hot, and partially in the hopes of inspiring other people to want to write about it.

Also, content, namely some thoughts on the sexworld version of the Powerpuff Girls:

First off, they're called the Powerfuck Girls. Despite being little-girl sized, and having little-girl mannerisms, their bodies are fully developed. Think of them as minature porn stars, although there's nothing minature about their racks.

Their names are Boobies, Bosom, and Bustycups (although, if I could think of a word for pussy that starts with a "B" and sounds like Blossom or Bubbles, I might replace Bosom or Boobies with that and rename Bustycups Buttocks). They are just as likely to fuck their enemies unconcious as they are to beat them up.

The opening narration is as follows:

"Sugar. Spice. And everything Vice. These were the ingredients chosen to creat the perfect little whores.

But Professor Utonium accidentally added an extra ingredient to the concotion...Chemical XXX.

Thus, the Powerfuck Girls were born!

Using their Ultra-Sexy Powers, Boobies, Bosom, and Bustycups have dedicated their lives to fucking Crime, and the Forces of Evil!"

[Shendude]

Lately, I've bee considering starting up one or two sexworld related Addventure threads, either:

-A version of Belle's "Sexland" variation, if s/he's okay with it and permits me to to crib from his/her description.

-A story where overnight, our world turns into a sexworld, and everyone has to adjust to the new status quo.

Anyone interested in either?

[Shendude]

Well, even lack of itnerest will not stop me from posting in this thread. And so without further ado...

And howabout some Sexworld Transformers? Sounds crazy, right? Well, check out this link, and tell me if it still sounds nuts.

I admit, I haven't got as far as I like with that one, beyond:

"Transformers! More than Meets the Eye! Transformers! Hotties In Disguise! Autobabes Wage Their Battle To Destroy...The Evil Forces of...The Decepticunts."

I had briefly considered that the Sexworld version would be called "Transfuckers", but that suggests something else altogether, of course.