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Announcements => Community Health & Memorial Notices => Topic started by: Stretcherr on April 30, 2006, 08:57:37 AM
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My name is Marc, and I have been Stretcherr's buddy since highschool. Last night while trying to chase some drug dealers away from the front of his theater, he was hit by a stray bullet during a drive by shooting.
He didn't make it. I've been online all night posting notices when I came across this website. I'm sure he would have wanted you all to know, he loved posting pics here, and from all he showed me, he was pretty good at it.
Jim was a great guy and I will miss him.
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Holy... ah man, that's awful
Geez, gah... I don't know what to say
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Condolences to his friends and family. He'll be missed here.
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My condolences go out to Stretcher's friends and family.
His talent as a morpher eventually surpassed and exceeded my own and he will be missed.
Rest in Peace my friend.
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Oh God, that's awful. I think I'm going to be sick. Thanks for posting...
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I really don't know what to say on that. Sorry doesn't even begin to cover it but... yea.
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That fucking piss me off!!! and sad!!
His disdain for bickering and racial slur got my respect. He was a soldier to the end, trying to right what was wrong. He had balls to speak his mind, but always wishing for the well being of all others. It enrages me that he didn't die old and spread his love to the younger generation. Just not enough of his kind in this world.
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My deepest condolences to his friends and family. He was in a class by himself.
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Thank you Marc for letting the BEA Forum know of this loss. You are a good friend to have spent the time to let what are essentially strangers to you in on this sad news.
Jim shall be remembered by his 1400+ posts and by the work he shared. He was a prolific poster and obviously had an enthusiasm for his craft.
I raise a final toast to your creative friend and confide his life to history...
I wonder if the EMTs put Stretcherr on a stretcher? Yes gallows humor, by I need a smile right now...'cause it all hurts too much.
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*Clink*
And now for a moment of silence
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Rest in piece great man. You were admired by many here.
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I pray this is a joke..... Just tell me its a joke and I won't get angry about it. Dammit SAY ITS A JOKE
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Tis sad indeed, he was a gentleman and a scholar ...
-Munch "not necessarily in that order" Wolf
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That's so awful... my deepest condolences to you. He will be missed.
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holy crap...:(
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How tragic. My heart goes out to his friends and family.
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This can't be true, it is just a bad joke !!!
Please tell us it is !!! Please..............
Stretcherr (Jim) contributed so much to this forum, he was a real BEA King, he can't be missed !!
Condolences to his friends and family. He'll be realy missed here.
I still hope it is a joke........
maybe, just maybe it is....
Damn it !
RIP
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Can you point us to the local newspaper's online site so we can read about the details of the incident?
This is terrible, and my condolences to his family and friends.
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Can you point us to the local newspaper...
Did this happen Saturday night or early Sunday morning in San Francisco? I can't find anything through Google
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we'll find out, if strectherr doesn't post for 3 months straight
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that is awful
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Damn....
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damn. I will make a short prayer for his family and friends.
~RIP Jim (AKA- Stretcherr)
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Horrible news, horrible story. Sadness ...
Rest In Peace.
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Damn, that's really horrible. I'm truly sorry. My condolences to all affected by this loss.
He will be missed greatly.
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Fuck.
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terrible to hear. Another reminder of the fragility of life. Such a nice guy, too.
Damn.
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Tragic...
Our sympathies to freinds and family...
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Very sorry to hear this tragic news. Stretcherr and his contributions here will be greatly missed.
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Man. This is not right. He was a great guy and did great work around here. He will be missed
Master"a great artisit...lost"X0
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Part of me is praying that this is just a wind-up in poor taste.
Not Stretcher.
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I can't imagine anyone playing a sick joke like this, but at the same time, I've tried to search for this news everywhere in the Bay Area and can't find anything...like you, I pray that this is just not true.
Hopefully, someone can provide a link to more information, or Stretcherr will show up and tell us he's OK.
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I want it to be a joke just so he'll be ok. I have also searched around for any infomation on the event but no results. Though that being said if it is true then I doubt it will be so quickly posted on the news.
I need some kind of proof though before I can accept his demise. I mean its all the hope I got
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A man being killed by a stray bullet would make the news the next day. I think I will wait to see the report in the media. Please provide us a link, or let us know this was a sick joke.
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Last night while trying to chase some drug dealers away from the front of his theater, he was hit by a stray bullet during a drive by shooting.
If he was confronting a group of drug dealers, why was the bullet not intended for him?
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*Fucking speachless*
For the first time, I have felt upset about the death of someone from a forum (Partly because of not knowing the person particulary well)
I never really spoke to Stretcher, but always looked forward to his morphs. I know I'm not a big poster on this site, but I have seen his posts on Expansion Mansion and have praised his works.
Photoshop just lost a great user.
Rest well Stretcher, rest well.
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I need some kind of proof though before I can accept his demise. I mean its all the hope I got
I'm going to go out on a limb... Something here doesn’t make sense. In the, Site forum, there is a post about someone stealing passwords. Stretch’s last post was 3pm 042906.
I'm going to call BS...
BUT the moment this is confirmed I'll apologize and give my respects. Either way the pillars of this site never cease to amaze me with their collective empathy and concern.
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I'm going to go out on a limb... Something here doesn’t make sense. In the, Site forum, there is a post about someone stealing passwords.
While Stretcher's password was among the stolen, the message that started this thread was posted from the same place where he registered his account.
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So, this might actually be true?
Please tell me it's not.
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Hard to believe... but if this is true, all my condolences to family, friends, and this community.
rest in peace, wherever you are Stretch
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Holy crap! Well, let's hope there's some other explanation...maybe an angry ex- or someone else who has access to his computer. At times like this, any rationale is better than the worst...
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Geezus aitch keerist....
I'm stunned. Every time I saw that he'd contributed a morph, I knew his work would be top notch.
Sorry folks, I'm not thinking coherently here. I was recently thinking about one day bringing cherri to San Fran and was hoping to ask Stretcherr if he wanted to meet up.
Don't think cherri's seen this thread yet. Gonna give her a call now (I got into NYC about 6 hours ago) and break the news.
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If this is a joke, it's not a very funny one. If it's for real, I wish it were a sick joke.
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I'm floored...and angry. My deepest sympathy goes out to Stretchers friends and family and I hope the bastards who killed him are punished to the fullest extent of the law.
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Why the drive by post? Why not follow up with some more info. Just wanted a link to the news story. Something like this would make the news. It smells fishy, and if it is true, I sure wish the original poster would come back and comment on the news link request.
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Aw, Stretch...no...
No. I just can't accept this without some sort of confirmation.
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Damn, that's fucked up.*bows head*
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That's really f-ing infuriating. It sucks that in this world decent people always end up paying the price for the selfishisness and madness of others. If this is in fact true, then the mans a hero, and should be treated as one. Rest in Peace buddy
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What terrible news if true. He was a good talent and a decent guy. Just don't know what to say right now. So sorry if true.
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Please pas along my condolences as well to his friends and family.
I will sorely miss his wit and satire.
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I never got to know Stretcherr, but he sent me a very sweet message on 04/29/06 03:16 PM, asking to collaborate with me on some morphs. I sent a reply without having even read the boards, and now just feel odd knowing he won't get to read it.
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Words fail me is situations like this.
May the trigger puller die painfully.
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Well, I hope you are okay if you are out there Stretcherr. If not then let it be known that you were an inspiration to many, and that your work here was seen with adoring eyes.
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I need more infomation on this event. I have searched through google news pages and found only 1 thing which could even be near the death and it was made 30th April about a afternoon shooting.
THIS IS DRIVING ME NUTS
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You and me both. I've found the same things you have. The most recent shooting fatality was yesterday afternoon at 4:19 p.m., but that was way after the first post in this thread.
Does anyone know that Stretcherr was really from San Francisco? I've noticed on more than one occasion a person lists one location in their profile, but then when you read their posts, they mention living in a different locale...
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Aye. Thor's sail flies at half mast today.
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There were several shootings ... just not all reported by the same press ... The 4:19 pm shooting was of a 19-year old man. Stretcher mentions he is 40 in his yahoo profile (that is if we trust that). Later in the same article (7:15 pm) a 17 year old male was shot.
At 11:50 pm a man was shot by the zoo. No information about the victim is given.
Yesterday I had seen another article about 3 people shot in two seperate incidents, 2 girls in one, and in another a 40-year old hispanic gentleman (whose name was not Jim), but they didn't appear to be fatal. That article is no longer findable. All 6 of the above shootings happened on the same day .. Saturday.
So, I'm not sure if we will find an article. Most news agencies don't appear to cover shootings (or if they do, they only list one and ignore the rest), and they seem to be fairly frequent.
-Munch "That's all I got" Wolf
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This is horrible and I hope untrue. I've also searched for verification to this tragic news, and can't find a news item describing this situation in the San Francisco area which would offer some form of confirmation.
We love your Stretcherr, and I'm hanging on to lots of hope that you're alive and well.
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You got the same as me.... Damn I need more infomation I cannot blindly accept that someone is dead
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Munch, Bambi, thanks for the feedback. Still hoping it's not true.
Var*Next time I can't find my car keys I'm calling Munch*la
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I have to say, the more I think about it the more bogus it sounds. I hope I am right. He went out to run off drug dealers? Wouldn't a call to the police be safer? He was hit by a stray bullet? So he went out to run them off, and a gun battle erupted, coincidentally striking him? Stray bullet shootings make the news. No sign of it? No follow up by his "friend?" It is not adding up, and I hope I am right that this is a hoax.
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Although the tendancy appears to be for members to keep their faith private and to themselves around here (ref: Goober in Site Issues Forum)
Please allow this "fundy" to say that my prayers will include Jim's family, and his noble friend Marc who selflessly took the time to consider all Jim's fiends (known and unknown) out here in the cyberworld as well.
God bless you Marc, God rest your soul Jim, and God heal the pain felt by all Jim's family and friends.
Bonecracker.
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Found the article of the three people who were shot, but are ok..
In other news, Thursday, a man was shot in front of a community center. He had a felony, so there is extra newsage on him.
This is not an attempt to trivialize this event, but just to point out how difficult it is to find information on a regular occurance when there is too little information to begin with.
Anyone interested in doing there own search, may want to start here
I will look more later
-Munch "Varla - check between the sofa cushions" Wolf
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It is a bigger story when innocent men get shot by criminals.
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Are there still obituaries, death notices, service notices?
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I have the feeling we will not get any confirmation on this.
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I have the feeling we will not get any confirmation on this.
I posted 2 controversial issues, and he hasn't responded to them. I'm convince!
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Are there still obituaries, death notices, service notices?
hxxp://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/obituaries/
Obits usually appear a couple of weeks after the event though. I can understand this, it takes a certain type of mindset to think of an obit for a loved one.
Still hoping...
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Are you convinced that this is a hoax?
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Are you convinced that this is a hoax?
No. I forgot to mention that I had also written a thoughful PM just shortly before anyone notice he was missing. I notice that he hasn't responded to them. He has been known to be feisty and passionate on the forum. If he was alive he would of been passionate about expressing his views.
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I would think that there would be a death notice at least so that friends and family would know about the arrangements. I lost one of my parents just a few short weeks ago on a Saturday and the Obit was online Sunday night at the local paper's website.
That said, the longer Stretch is quiet, the more I worry.
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I would think that there would be a death notice at least so that friends and family would know about the arrangements. I lost one of my parents just a few short weeks ago on a Saturday and the Obit was online Sunday night at the local paper's website.
That said, the longer Stretch is quiet, the more I worry.
I am still holding onto hope of life and just bad joke. Still holding onto that hope...... Right?....
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I add my voice to the chorus of people praising Stretcher's works and his gentlemanly conduct on these boards. He always had a kind word for my own morphs - seemed like a great guy. My condolances to his family and friends.
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I'm hoping this is a hoax, too, but I feel we've seen the last of him and we won't get any better closure. Sigh.
Later, Stretch-dude! You'll be missed.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/05/01/BAG4AIIF651.DTL
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Fecking crackheads. Too bad he didn't keep his cool and approach the menace a little better. Even Buford Pusser from Walking Tall paid a high price for confronting this sort of scumbag. Sad to read the news.
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Terrible news.
The world is a little less of a nice and fun place today.
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So I haven't found any more news online, but I've been thinking, and am in a quandry.
Stretcherr never shared his name on here. The only reason I know his name was Jim is Marc posted it in the first post (plus it's been independantly verified by a member here who was going to mail him something ... that member also verified he lived in San Fran, near a theater, which we knew from the first post.)
So the question is, since he didn't choose to share with us that personal information, should we really be trying to hunt it down? Privacy is one of the cornerstones of this site. It's even in the rules:
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* The request for or sharing of any information that is intended to identify any user, model, or other person - except for data that those users/models themselves have freely made public. We all depend on our anonymity here and privacy will be respected.
So while I am saddened by his parting, and I understand there are those here who are skeptical, I am only saying I will not be trying to seek more information on this event. If Stretcherr is alive and well, and chooses to post again in the future, I will welcome that occasion, but until then I will accept this news as it is, and mourn our loss.
-Munch "This is not to deter others from seeking, just informational about my viewpoint" Wolf
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Amen.
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l a t e r s t r e t c h d u d e
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Thats terrible.
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Munch, I couldn't have said it any better. All we know for certain at this point is that continued silence is not good news. I think that anyone who wants to seek confirmation independently should do so, but that no additional identifying info be posted here.
Var*Starting to feel really sad now*la
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I never really understand the 'need' to disprove something like a notice of someone's death. We saw this just a few weeks ago when a well known model passed and suddenly everyone wanted to know the gory details. How many notices like this are posted and proven to be false? Not many I suspect.
God Speed.
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I haven't been able to post for a couple of days. I was too sad.
I knew stretcherrr as Jim due to our frequent chats. I'll miss you Jim.
A good friend, buddy, teacher, a great artist, a loving hubby-to-be , and a wonderful human.
You'll be missed *cry*
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I never really understand the 'need' to disprove something like a notice of someone's death. We saw this just a few weeks ago when a well known model passed and suddenly everyone wanted to know the gory details. How many notices like this are posted and proven to be false? Not many I suspect.
God Speed.
It is in many ways, part of the Kubler-Ross' five stages of death. Denial anger bargaining depression and acceptance.
It shows just how much Stretcherr meant to the forum...
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I don't post much here, but Stretcherr was by far my favorite morpher. This is awful. May he rest in peace.
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aside from a loss, it pisses me off that it was an action of someone taking the life of another. Violence begets violence. But in Jim case it was on the behalf of protecting his neighborhood, his life, his mode of making a wage. Perhaps he went out after them in the street. I was lucky to learn about the danger of drug peddler from my days in Hawaii, I came from a small town and didn't know, but learn to keep your nose clean and let the police handle these type of situation. I have come very close to being shot myself and near misses of knife fights to wise up not taking these risk. To the perps that shot him, there is no word that can express my disdain for your action.
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Absolutly terrible! I talked to him thursday through YIM. He was my favorite morpher who did work with me by far! Was a really nice and fun guy too. I will miss you and I will pray.
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munch...
i ain't got the words...
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I've been reading this thread since it started and I'm still speechless. I can remember when he first started posting here, he was so eager and it was a joy watching his skills develop over time. He was a gentleman, a man who would not be slotted into some pre-defined category and I have no hesitation in saying that he was a corner stone of this community.
He was kind and courteous, never spewing random insults, he always knew what he was talking about, never going beyond his means, except when it came to morphing where he would always push his abilities to the limits and beyond.
I can only hope that I become half the man he was. I will miss him, his morphs and his wit.
Farewell Stretcherr, may you find happiness where ever you are.
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So I haven't found any more news online, but I've been thinking, and am in a quandry.
Stretcherr never shared his name on here. The only reason I know his name was Jim is Marc posted it in the first post (plus it's been independantly verified by a member here who was going to mail him something ... that member also verified he lived in San Fran, near a theater, which we knew from the first post.)
So the question is, since he didn't choose to share with us that personal information, should we really be trying to hunt it down?
I completely agree with Munch. (If it were me, I wouldn't want people here trying to figure out my particulars...)
Stretcher hasn't been posting... if that continues, we'll know the story, sadly, is true.
My condolences to anyone who suffers from this loss.
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Holy shit! I just found out about this.
Stretcherr was a cool dude. He was one of the few people on this board i felt was a friend. I am speechless. Wish I knew who he actually was. He was probably a pretty awesome dude in RL.
Every time I see Kermit, it's going to make me sad.
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A member here has confirmed privately to me that this is true. I do not know any details beyond that.
-Munch "..." Wolf
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Terrible news just terrible
His soul and spirit are in God's hands now
R.I.P
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I really didnt know the guy on a personal level - but I admired his work as a morpher and respected his stature here at the BEA.
He seemed to be able to discuss all the hot-point issues fairly, judiciously, and most of the time he kept his own shields up. Not to ward off flames directed at him, but to keep his own replies temperate.
Its not like he attracted fiery responses, instead he was more apt to help put out the fires when the BEA erupted.
I think he was one of the most intrinsically valuable people around this site. He contributed to our visual delights, he contributed to our community by offering harmony instead of a hammer, and his eloquence was not made up of fancy words but by forthrightness and directness.
He shall be missed.
From New York, this is ...
JustMeMike
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We have lost a great talant, a great community member and a great chap. I shall miss him.
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I never tought id miss someone i dont even know
rest in piece
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wow.....
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This is TERRIBLE. Too many souls in this world are lost to senseless gang violence.
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My condolences he was a nice guy all though I did,nt get to know him well.
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Hey MarC sorry to hear your friend got killed. I liked his work very much. I think it is a shame that in addition to that someone stole his I.D. as well. Some people have no shame!!
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I never really understand the 'need' to disprove something like a notice of someone's death. We saw this just a few weeks ago when a well known model passed and suddenly everyone wanted to know the gory details. How many notices like this are posted and proven to be false? Not many I suspect.
I think there are a few reasons why we wanted more information on this death notice.
1. How many of your friends know your username and password here?
2. No mention of an innocent guy being shot by a "stray bullet" while trying to run off gang bangers in the media.
3. The original poster posts this news at a big boob forum, the day after his alleged death.
4. The original poster has not come back to give us any more information after the first post (as far as I know, haven't read all posts).
5. We all want it not to be true. If it was not true, we would all feel better.
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4. The original poster has not come back to give us any more information after the first post (as far as I know, haven't read all posts).
He took the trouble to make one post but can`t or doesn`t want to make another. It just doesn`t sit well with me. If this is a cruel joke, this is the way to do it. If it isn`t a joke, he could just say it isn`t.
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I did see a post dated 5-1-06 from stretcher in another topic in the forum.
1. I can only hope that this is some sort of prank
2. if so then the real Strecher needs to speak up.
3. As for the password issue, If remember me was checked then you wouldn't need to re-enter it.
4 If this is not a prank then my apologies to Strecher, his friends, and family. Bea moderators then need to find the sick bastard using a deceased account and BAN HIM FOR LIFE.
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I've been quite on this for a while. I'm not good with goodbyes. I feel I didn't get to know him as well as I should have. Stretcherr was always fun, and had some posts that made me laugh when I didn't think I could. His morphs were lovely, and I will miss him a great deal.
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We have lost a great talant, a great community member and a great chap. I shall miss him.
Nicely put, and I agree.
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Another friend from our little corner of the web taken from us due to the foolishness of another.
Condolences to the family.
May the perpetrator be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Rest in peace, Stretcherr. You will be missed.
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Sometimes, denial turns to anger pretty damn fast.
I am so sorry. Κυριε ελεησον, buddy. :(
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.... i cant believe it... hes always had my respect. We'll miss you Jim...aka stretcher...
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My name is Marc, and I have been Stretcherr's buddy since highschool. Last night while trying to chase some drug dealers away from the front of his theater, he was hit by a stray bullet during a drive by shooting.
He didn't make it. I've been online all night posting notices when I came across this website. I'm sure he would have wanted you all to know, he loved posting pics here, and from all he showed me, he was pretty good at it.
Jim was a great guy and I will miss him.
Sorry to hear about your friend. My condolence to you and his family.
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... damn. You never expect to see this sort of message.
He will be missed.
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Im not sure what else to say... this is the reason I'm in school to be a police officer... im tired of hearing about this crap. "Man hit by stray bullet" , "Girl shot while shopping on boxing day" , "Boy killed at best friends funeral"... its driving me insane... RIP stretcherr... we'll never forget you... Life is good.
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Dear Mods, et al;
Is it now time to lock this thread, or at the very least Stretcher's account?
Just curious, as this seems to have turned into quite a tangled web, woven by conjecture and controversy.
Kindest regards,
Bonecracker
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OK, i was in doubt that this was fake so i sent a pm and well, no reply so yes he is infact gone...
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Dear Mods, et al;
Is it now time to lock this thread, or at the very least Stretcher's account?
Just curious, as this seems to have turned into quite a tangled web, woven by conjecture and controversy.
Kindest regards,
Bonecracker
Suggestion noted. I think we'll leave it open for the time being... so that folks can express their feelings in the matter. I assume that if people wish to continue to attempt to verify this, that they'll be careful not to post any specific RL ID info about our friend.
At some point, I think we'll set up a specific place on the forum for these sad sorts of things... a place set aside for folks to remember/share feelings about members of our community no longer with us.
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>> At some point, I think we'll set up a specific place on the forum for these sad sorts of things...
Yeah, that'd be nice in its own way. Part of me wants to do some sort of tribute to Stretch, but I dunno... :/
For now, I'll just remove my avatar. Being a mutherfuckin gangster has suddenly lost its appeal...
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http://www.bearchive.com/~Memorial/
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http://www.bearchive.com/~Memorial/
Thanks for pointing out how crappy my memory has become Morphermor.
It would be good if we could manage to place links TO the relevant forum threads INSIDE the memorial main page, and then eventually unpin the threads themselves. In this way, users visiting the memorial could still offer their comments (in threads/as a 'guestbook') without having to hunt for the threads themselves.
Of course, I'd also like to see a link TO the memorial from a prominent place in the General Forum itself so that folks can find IT... I'm putting a link to it in the BEA forum FAQ thread right now as a temp measure... we'll do better later. I also think it would also be appropriate to include pointers to threads about the passsing of non-users notable to our community (Russ Meyer, individual models, etc...).
In any case, we'll let things stay as they are for a bit and then I'll get in touch and ask him to have the sysadmin add the links (to threads) for Zasha and Stretcherr to the Memorial page (or does someone OTHER than site admin maintain the memorial page? ...is it you Morphermor? ...if so, please let me know).
Thanks again Morphermor for reminding me.
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I believe that was one of Imaginos' last acts as webmaster.
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(or does someone OTHER than site admin maintain the memorial page? ...is it you Morphermor? ...if so, please let me know).
I believe that was one of Imaginos' last acts as webmaster.
as auto reply has pointed out, imaginos was the one who created that particular section. i did talk with him about ideas for that area, and did some graphics. as to who maintains that, i would have no idea. it would appear to be a fairly simple job for someone who doesn't have much to do. most of the staff here are already busy enough...
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what about a category or sub category for gone BEA members? something like this "Gone but not forgotten" dunno if you like the idea or not though
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there is already... it's called - "Repose"
http://www.bearchive.com/category.php?idcat=12
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I enjoyed his morphs, that is a sad way to go, I hope the culprits are tried...
So long Stretcherr....
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I just looked into this thread for the first time..I dont get up to the General forum all that much anymore... This really, really sucks!...I can only hope whoever did this goes out gut shot and takes a long, long painful time to die..
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I was planning on making a tribute to Stretcherr which would either be a page of all of his posts, or a montarge of all his morphs on here.
The only problem is that I can't do it now (as much as I would like too) and it would seem a little half-assed leaving it till the summer when I've got the time.
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Wish the best for his family and friends. It's horrible when things like this happen because of stupid people. They will get whats coming to them, be it now or when they are judged in the after life. God Bless and may he rest in peace.
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My condolances on the loss of your friend. Its always hard to lose the ones you care about. I am sure he will be missed.
Torqumada
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Man this is horrible. This is the second time a great person has passed away on a forum I visit. This guy was great his posts were always something too look forward.
IMO this is not a hoax. We're lucky we got any information at all. I mean if you lost one of your best friends I doubt posting on a porn site is going to be a very high priority.
Like I said this is the second time something like this has happened and the other time it was one post then that was it.
Also someone was brutily murdered less then a block away from where I live. The only reason I heard anything about it was the cops had come in questioning people. It never made the news ever. i looked quite abit too. Just saying that the news doesn't report everything.
RIP Stretcherr
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only thing that i can mention more about this is that drive by shootings happen often in california, that they really don't think it's worthy news much anymore... but, i don't understand why they would shoo off drug dealers and not just call the police instead? drive by's are just by wanna thugs/gangsters, that have nothing else to do with there lives that's productive. days now when i look through the forum i always expected to see him post whether it's a morph and what not. i think i will miss him just as much as the next member! i have to get ready for work now ttyl
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I miss him
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Wow... I can't believe how long I've been gone... only to come back to something like this....
I can't really say that I knew Stretcherr that well. I can only assume that he got going as a morph shortly after or right before I left.
I can't even begin to express how sadenning is it to hear that we've had yet another member of out already small enough group, taken from us so suddenly.
This has however, in reading all of the posts made so far, taught me something that I think is important.
Remember that while this may be one of the things we are the most passionate about in our lives, as I'm sure it was for Stretcherr, it may not be for those around us. There are many people for whom this is not something that they are interested in, and there are many more who may not even know that such interests exist. As in this case, the people here who knew him wanted to know more about what happend. But, as the case may or may not be, the people around Stretcherr in his life away from here, may not have known or been interested in his interests and activies, and may not want to be involved with them. Just as it might be for us and the people around us who are part of our lives and important to us, but outside of this and other places on-line. If that is the case then we should probably count ourselves lucky that we even got the notice that we did.
As a result I would urge us all, and I for one am going to make sure I do this too, to make sure that in the event that any of us pass on unexpectedly, that the people around us have some sort of notice with a list of E-Mails to send to, places to post, IM contacts to get ahold of, and all the places that we frequent that our death might have an impact on On-Line or not. And maybe the instructions should even tell them to make sure to post specific details of the death, funeral dates for those who would want to attend, and the like, and keep the places up todate on them.
Because there's no guarantee that it would happen otherwise. Something as simple as a letter address to your family, put in a lock box, that has a list of URLs, Usernames, Passwords, and even a short explaination of what to do at each place would go a long way to eliminating situations like this.
I would strongly urge us all to consider this as it is something that I think most everyone wouldn't, even when considering what needs to be taken care of because of an unexpected death. Honestly, the internet hasn't been around for all that long for most of us, and there are plenty of people who don't know and/or wouldn't give a second thought to all the people whos' lives, places, blogs, and bulletin boards it's involved in. And even for those of us for who the internet is so ingrained in our lives, even we forget just how many people our death would affect on-line let alone in the real world.
I am sorry if my rant has taken away at all from the respect and honor that is owed to Stretcherr, and there is a lot to be owed. As there is with anyone who is taken from us by death. But, it is unfortunate that such events make such great teachers. Especially when it comes to reminding us of our own mortality, reminding us of just how many people we effect just through random meetings let alone through relation, and in making us consider what the effect of our death would be and the concequences it would bring.
My heart goes out to the family and friends of Stretcherr. And I hope that we all can come away with something positive for ourselves, about him, and for our lives.
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Whoa...That was very unexpected. Life is full of mystery, isn't it? One day, you're alive and well and feel like nothing has gone wrong. The next day, you get shot because of the street crimes of today. I want to feel sad about it but I can't. I am just plain furious. No man, woman, or [censored] should die like that. More people have been dying from stray bullets recently. There was even a report about a [censored] being shot from a far away distance while he is inside of car and the bullet actually penetrated through the door where the [censored] was behind of. Unfortunately, he didn't survive. This is the reason why I'm furious. I really wish people should stop committing street crimes but it will not happen that easily. I reallt give my condolences to Stretcherr's family and friends for their loss. May you rest in peace, friend.
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I miss him
I know the feeling
Every time I went to the morph forum I'd avoid the posts he'd responded to already cause I knew there was already quality morphs there
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I noticed this message a bit late.
My condolances to his friends and family.
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Oh no. Not again.
How well do I understand how it feels to lose a loved one in such a horrible way. It seems that he was on these Forums just yesterday, responding to (I think) one of Buffie's posts. Life truly is a vapor.
My deepest condolences to Stretcherr's family, his RL friends, and to his boob brothers-in-arms. Not only will he be missed, he is missed already.
P.S.: L_C_RANT, after Zasha passed on, I thought about doing exactly what you have talked about in your post above. I haven't actually followed through with it completely, but I have started the preliminary steps of implementing it. Sort of like a dead-man's switch device, this sort of information can best be given to the executor of your will, if you ask me.
P.P.S.: If it turns out to be some asshat's idea of a joke, so soon after the whole Angela Devi affair, I propose that he be banned from these Forums and the BEA for life. If it's a joke, I ain't laughing.
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I think there are a few reasons why we wanted more information on this death notice.
1. How many of your friends know your username and password here?
If you use Firefox, and you use Windows XP, and you don't have a Windows login password, and have the FF Password Manager enabled, you won't need to know someone's BEA Forum password -- it will be put for you when you attempt to login to the BEA.
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2. No mention of an innocent guy being shot by a "stray bullet" while trying to run off gang bangers in the media.
Think about it: San Francisco is a pretty large city. Do they print and/or talk about every single homicide in the daily news, or are there too many to refer to?
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3. The original poster posts this news at a big boob forum, the day after his alleged death.
4. The original poster has not come back to give us any more information after the first post (as far as I know, haven't read all posts).
It was his friend who frequented here, not him, and so after doing his duty to his friend, he withdrew. And besides, he may have to do other, more important things IRL related to the aftermath of the death of his friend, so keeping us up-to-date might have a lower priority.Quote:
5. We all want it not to be true. If it was not true, we would all feel better.
True dat.
Not wanting to cause a ruckus, just showing the other possibilities.
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Earlier a request to lock this thread was made. I would like to bring that request back again. Not only has a memorial idea been brought about but a thread to mourn all members has been pointed out.
I do not wish to be reminded of his demise and it seems that is impossible aslong as this thread remains stuck on high alert
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I agree with tenacious
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Thank you, Shara1;
I agree with Tencaious as well, and I believe it may have been my suggestion earlier to lock this thread.
Mods, haven't we had enough? The condolences can be put on the memorial page, as Morphemor pointed out.
Kindest regards,
Bonecracker
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Since the contents of this thread have not yet been incorporated into an editable memorial page, locking it now would simply deny any other users who wish to express their condolences the opportunity to do so.
At some point (when someone can make time) we WILL remove this thread (and Zasha's, and any other such threads (re: models, morphers, etc...) and incorporate everything into a single dedicated area of the site for that purpose. Until that happens, I see no reason to deny users the right to express themselves on any of these matters, especially since every single user already knows (or doesn't know, at their own peril) the site rule against 'outing' anyone w/RL ID info.
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Thank you for keeping the thread unlocked, Palomine. I just got back in town so this is new to me. How immeasurably sad.
He brought fun, joy and intelligence to the BEA. I'm going to miss his talent, wit and kindness very much.
Here's to hoping you're snuggling some sweet nugs in Heaven, Stretcherr.
Kisses.
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His talent, attitude, & humor will be missed.
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I was shocked as i read this. He was an great Artist. Im so Sorry to hear that he will never be on again. He will be missed.
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Ok I have to ask.
Has anybody actually confirmed - and by confirmed, I mean verified with real world documentation and evidence; police reports, hospital records, newspaper accounts, that sort of thing, not "some guy on the net told me" - that the OP is accurate and true?
Yeah yeah I know how dare I suggest such a horrible thing as that someone would manipulate all your emotions this way. Thing is, IT HAS HAPPENED before and much more than once - I have personally seen three different cases where someone put up a message like this - EXACTLY like this, "Hi, I'm a friend of X, I'm sorry to report they died the other day, I know they liked you all" - and it turned out that they were essentially doing it for attention and validation, not having died at all.
Not saying it's not true. I also have been directly affected by two such deaths that were entirely true, sadly enough. But in those cases there was easily-verifiable confirmation in the form of publicly accessible information. I haven't read through all 15 pages here in detail, but the only confirmation I _have_ seen hs been in the form of "a member here confirmed it to me". Folks, that sort of thing is EASILY fakeable.
I'm just sayin', don't go investing all sorts of emotion into this until you KNOW.
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Denial is also a form of grief. True or not, the Stretcherr we knew is dead to the community, metaphorically speaking. Let them sort out their own emotions.
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RIP
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My condolences to his family and all who knew him.
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Only just now caught up with a very recent Jennifer Love Hewitt morph of his. A really magnificent talent. Such things shouldn't happen to anyone, least of all him.
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Seeing as I have a poor internet connection I don't often get the chance to join in much with the community here, but I did notice on my few visits so far that Stretcherrs talent was sublime.
Beyond his morphing talent though I remember when Nikki left after being given some violating PM's, and one of the first to voice his opinion was Stretcherr. Not because he had lost a subject to morph, no, no, he was angry because somebody he had gotten to know was treated badly by people who are within this community.
A great talent, and even though I never had the pleasure of meeting him, a nice guy.
You will be missed, but no doubt you're somewhere better now. R.I.P.
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Thanks to the mods for keeping this thread active.
In early April Stretcherr PM'd me at the EM with a new morph. He wanted to know if I wanted the morph posted here and/or at the EM. Sadly, due to seasonal allergies, I had been offline for days without checking my inbox until a day or so before it was brought to my attention that his loss had been announced here. For several days I contemplated whether or not I should share it here in this thread mainly because I'm the subject of Stretcherr's fabulous morph and I don't want to detract from our RIP condolences. Then I thought 'ya know, Stretcherr's talented morphs was one of his many fine contributions to our broad expansion community and he clearly wanted it published, so why not continue to appreciate this even during his absence?' Also, if this thread eventually resides in a special resting place, then maybe his morph will give a kind remembrance and brighten someone's day.
The pic is attached and this particular morph will always be very special to me. I just wish I had been online April 7th when Stretch sent it so that I could have personally thanked him. I'm also sharing a portion of his PM because, like his morphs, his kind & comical nature always put a smile on my face: Quote:
btw, any time you want to do a photo comic with BE, butt and belly morphs, let me know. i am your slave.
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I luv ya too Stretch, you were the BEst!
~Bambi~
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The pic is attached and this particular morph will always be very special to me. I just wish I had been online April 7th when Stretch sent it so that I could have personally thanked him. I'm also sharing a portion of his PM because, like his morphs, his kind & comical nature always put a smile on my face:
I agree Bambi and thanks for sharing your thoughts and Stretcherr's morph!
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btw, any time you want to do a photo comic with BE, butt and belly morphs, let me know. i am your slave.
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I think that pretty much sums up the kind of guy he was.
Benji "A joker I mean, not a slave" Dude
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R.I.P friend may the war against drugs and guns never stop.
We missing you buddy !
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Oh my...I'm so sorry. He was a kind man...
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He will be greatly missed.
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Megs
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I have decided to come out of my lurking and pay tributes to one of the greats. You shall truly be missed Stretch.
The only way that I can see this being fake is that he decided he was going to stop coming here (for whatever reason) and decided to "kill himself off". I can't see this happening and the fact that he hasn't been on in such a long time now is surely proof.
RIP ol' chap
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This is the first time I've visited the BEA for over a month, and this is the worst thing I could have dreamed of seeing.
Seeya around Stretcherr, you were a good man. I hope you're in a place where all the women look like your morphs.
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While shootings do happen, there may be up to a few hundred shootings in a large American city per year at most. At max, one or two on a bad day. That is still low enough for the news to report each and every one. Shootings usually lead the evening newscast on local news and are always in police blotter section of the newspaper. IMO there is no way the shooting was not in a newspaper. Also, police depts also post statistics and events on their websites. With no evidence at all, and with the more likely possibility of him just "killing" himself off, call me a cynic but I doubt this. I hope he is not sitting back and laughing at everyone's condolences -- THAT would be truly cynical.
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Been away from the BEA for a while, and this is what I find when I get back. Really sad news.
He was a funny guy and a talented artist who will be greatly missed by this community.
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I am so sorry. He was great.
Blax12
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BAH! What the hell is it with this world, always taking the good ones and leaving the crappy ones behind
I never got to know you Stretcherr but I did enjoy your work.
May God shelter your soul.
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(Removed a couple of posts here about a prohibited site.)
Potybob, that page was apparently put up by Stretcherr shortly before his death. Anyway, the BEA Forum Rules prohibit the posting of directions to that website, so please don't do that again.
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Potybob, that page was apparently put up by Stretcherr shortly before his death. Anyway, the BEA Forum Rules prohibit the posting of directions to that website, so please don't do that again.
I thought the rules said that you can't post direct links to the site, not to mention the site by name.
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The rule doesn't say "direct links; it says "Do not post the following content in any form: Any content or references to content from **19**, **18**, and similar sites."
Potybob's post contained all the information needed to find the page in question on the first try.
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Just curious, but what would make a site similar to **19** or **18**?
What would make a site not like them?
Where is the "line in the sand" for the rule?
Still get sad about Stretcherr
It is too bad that mentioning some of his last works are on prohibited sites.
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The intent of the rule is to prevent BEA users from posting photos of people who appear to be under the age of 18, so by "similar sites", we generally mean any web-community or photo-album site where one can obtain photos of people who appear to be minors.
Added by Pal: Just to expand a wee bit on this... since we can't list EVERY possible site that could be problematic per the Owner's wishes, we have to settle for "W, M and similar" ...if a user has a doubt about whether subjects in a photo are possibly underag3, or about the source of the photo, then that user ought to err on the side of caution and NOT post it here. It's simply not worth the risk to the site.
Added by gonZo: Nimrod, as far as I can tell, the five Stretcherr images on the prohibited site weren't exclusive to that site, and can be found in his BEA Member Area gallery, his free gallery, and this forum.
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Its been over 2 years since Stretcher pass away, and someone brought up an old thread with his morph in it. It stirred up some memories of him, and I look up his gallery and it was like he never left. So I was thinking maybe someone could add a tribute page of his passing away. There is a part of me that doesn't want to dismiss him like he never existed. I'm thinking maybe we could leave something behind for him. I think he would like that! to remember him while he was with us!
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I would like to share my sorrow about Stretcherr's passing on the day I pass him in the post count...
...which I feel dreadfully sorry over, as he is one of the greats by whom I do not feel worthy to pass.
At least we can rest assured there is someone morphing breasts in Heaven...
Q-"RIP Stretcherr"-BE
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I would like to share my sorrow about Stretcherr's passing on the day I pass him in the post count...
...which I feel dreadfully sorry over, as he is one of the greats by whom I do not feel worthy to pass.
At least we can rest assured there is someone morphing breasts in Heaven...
Q-"RIP Stretcherr"-BE
I know what you mean, Q_BE. Up ahead you'll pass doggo, too.
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Jim was a great guy and I will miss him.
Heaven is a place with lots of big breasted women...