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Angelus
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« on: September 18, 2005, 03:42:51 PM »

I've always wondering why morphers fake the chest when it comes to morphs when it might be easier to fake the head.  

I mean, I know it's probably more "real" to see Lacey Chabert with giant breasts at a movie premiere than Lacey Chabert with Vanessa Montagne's body, but it's just something I wondered about.

Is it about artistic skills?
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2005, 05:36:02 PM »

It's called faking. It already exists and is heavily popular. Probably moreso than morphing.
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Angelus
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2005, 07:26:44 PM »

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It's called faking. It already exists and is heavily popular. Probably moreso than morphing.




I understand THAT... but I'm just curious why the morphers don't take more advantage of that versus morphing the chest.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2005, 08:07:33 PM »

bwwaaahhhh!

Face faking is great for putting celebrities in pornographic situations, etc. Here, we tend to mostly be interested in giving girls bigger boobs.
It's usually alot easier to just fake the chest. Faking a face brings many challenges. The worst being the hair! Hair matching is a bitch.
The second culprit is the proportioning. When making a breast morph, the goal is to make the boobs disproportionate, how disproportionate is up to the artist. When doing a face fake, the face MUST be in proportion with the new body. It takes lots of figiting, and playing around.  Eventually you find a suitable size; only to look at the picture a day later, the head still seems out of proportion.
Third is positioning. Sometimes the head you want is in a slightly off positon, this means the neck is also involved. An intricate amount of attention must be payed on the neck, and muscles involved.
Fourth, is highlights and shadows. If the lighting source is in a different angle between the face and new body, you need to drop in highlights. In this aspect, a face is harder to work with than a boob. A boob is realtively a smooth sphere, very easy to hightlight and drop shadows. A face has all these little bumps and valleys that would affect lighting.
Fifth, is what you originally touched on. It's more satisfying to leave as much of the origianl subject as possible. If I'm doing a Lacey Chabert morph, I want to see Lacey. Her awsome legs and hot hips and back... just with bigger boobs.
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mister_mystery
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2005, 08:13:26 PM »

It's context, dear boy.
Some starlet photographed on a red carpet is able to sprout immense bazooms while she still stands on that same red carpet.
Swapping heads loses the context and, imho, loses some of the appeal and a lot of the challenge.
But I hear ya, it would save a lot of time.
Trouble is, headswapping can sometimes yield undesirable results.
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Angelus
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2005, 08:43:49 PM »

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It's context, dear boy.
Some starlet photographed on a red carpet is able to sprout immense bazooms while she still stands on that same red carpet.
Swapping heads loses the context and, imho, loses some of the appeal and a lot of the challenge.
But I hear ya, it would save a lot of time.
Trouble is, headswapping can sometimes yield undesirable results.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2005, 09:53:48 PM »

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That's potentially worse than Munchelsa.




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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2005, 04:28:41 AM »

   I agree with all they said above.

a) Face faking is not easy. (also breast faking is a hell of a job, believe me. Morphing a breast can be done in two ways: either you work on the very pic - if there's any cleavage or breast to morph; or you attach someone else's breast over a model's body. And this is not so easy).
b) Matching hair is a mess. If you only put on the "new face" it will probably look "unnatural" with someone else's hair. That's because you have an image of a model with her own hair in your mind. And it is not easy to change it.
c) I add this: what about the rest of the body? I mean, I morph some supermodel because she's all sexy and I want her with bigger boobs. But I want her because I like her body, I like her long legs, her slim ass and all... many of the big boob models have not exactly perfect bodies (imho).
d) Realistic scenarios: part of the "realism" (that thing that happens when you look a morph and you think "that could be true") is placing a model into a proper contest. Now I'd like to see Nicole Kidman in hardcore movies, but when I do a face morphing of her into this kind of scenario...it looks not "true" to my mind...

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ZoD
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2005, 05:14:38 AM »

Face faking is more common but its also very rarely done right, usually with poorly matched skin tones and image quality.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2005, 06:03:40 AM »

Face matching is really hard.  Humans are designed to remember and distinguish facial features.  If they're off just a tiny bit, it is obvious.  Digital transplants of other body parts have less scrutiny.  

Besides, you have to put yourself in the mindset of the morpher.  As indicated above, part the fun of morphing is changing Jessica's body, her chest, her waist, maybe other things that a person might like to change.  Putting Jessica's head on Vanessa's body is doing just that, swapping a head.  That's pretty unstimulating.  And that doesn't necessarily improve the Vanessa pic, as she's plenty attractive as-is.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2005, 04:01:00 PM »

The best reasons are already named, why it´s easier and more fun to morph a body, instead of putting a new head on a busty body.

It´s hard to find a "suitable" haed for a specific body.
If the light is right, nearly the same point of view and size of the head.

Sometimes it´s possible to mirrow  picture or a face it´s self, but then you notice a differnce - maybe not when you don´t know the original.

And if you have got a strange feeling looking the morph, it can´t be a very ood one...

So, I agre to the mostl all reasons above, why to morp a good sexy body,  with an amzing face, than construct a new one. Uhh, why do I have to think of Frankestein, now?  

Here, two exsamples of fake a head (and some morphing):

 
 

 
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ZoD
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2005, 06:33:57 AM »

The bottom example is rather good! Im still trying to figure out which j idol you took the body off of.  
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2005, 08:57:18 AM »

for me, i just have a LOT more experience putting faces onto bodies vs morphing existing bodies... and am better at it.  otherwise, just go where your creative juices take you...
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mister_mystery
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2005, 07:16:13 AM »

Mariah Carey, Pammy's body, morphed boobs, any questions?
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2005, 09:05:54 PM »

This topic reminds me of when I first bought Photoshop and started to have some fun with it.  This here is an old head-swap morph I did along time ago, a few days after I had the program.
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