Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15480 on: April 16, 2018, 03:16:24 PM »
I like what you said bro and I agree and I am also one of the guys that would defender on FB or any other social media.  just cause she has giant boobs does not give people the right to insult her or degrade her.

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D, precisely. I felt compelled to offer rational defense of her choice though I was vastly outnumbered. While some ignored my comments, others resorted to immature ad hominem attacks despite often astounding hypocrisy; a girl, not very pretty and supporting perhaps 50 visible tattoos on her arms, legs, chest, and neck area (yeah, checked out her FB page after reading her chilling remarks) actually calling for physical harm because no one should be allowed to degrade themselves in the manner Beshine chose. I understand that not everyone, likely very few, actually find Beshine's boobs an attractive feature (and her FB pics were from 6-7 years ago, so smaller), but what happened to tolerance? To changing the channel?

I can tell you that more than half of those people that react so strong (negative) on Beshine, have serious problems themselves. I had several of such situations in the past when challenging these people words. They usually then go back to tell that they have severe body image problems themselves, which turns out as a lack of self-esteem ...
At the end they cannot understand that people and Beshine actually love it how she looks.

Amen. Beshine has no lack of self-esteem, sees herself very realistically, and loves what she sees. There is something very real about carrying perhaps 100 pounds on your chest 24 hours a day that says, you have to really love the look, so much that the weight is a burden worth bearing. How many times has she mentioned how heavy her boobs are, yet she never mentions that as a consideration as to how large she will go, only how much her skin can handle the size. I have no doubt that people have difficulty wrapping their minds around a desire, a love, so strong that one willingly embraces the challenges it presents, and in Beshine's case, actually relish many of the unique physical limitations that her boobs create. I totally agree, Beshine suffers from no self-esteem issues, and is extremely proud of her appearance.

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Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15481 on: April 16, 2018, 03:38:52 PM »
Connecting the dots look a bit different for me. Answer is realted to this: http://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=580674.msg10418835#msg10418835


After her last by her reported mega fill-up in mid February 2011 her real fans were happy, but if you followed the thread some complained, some doubted her fill-up. One of these person with the worst critics that went up to being business damaging I even know who this person is. And I can tell you it made me very sad to find this out. This person got removed from the board back then by the mods because of his behaviour. But this banned user came back a few months ago. I recognized him again. Up to now he behaves and I see no reason to report him to the moderators for breaking the rules coming back while being banned. On the other hand that user knows my real life name, so I have a reason to wait and see.

Anyway this posters seem to have shocked Beshine so much, that it even affected the posting frequency the happiness to operate the site. So the update frequency decreased. More people started to critize her (unfortunately, I think, I was one of these latter ones), so she stopped posting more and more.


On the other hand Beshine always wanted to go to webcam. She announced this with or shortly after her website debute. So in February 2012 this was what she did. Starting webcam shows on www.camliveportal.com/cam/beshine
This was so successful that she hardly was in the free chat for a few seconds or a minute or whatever. I can understand that in contrary to people attacking and doubting her on this forum, she better did camshows to people who actually wanted to see her. She was doing this with great success for a few months until people spend a good amount of money (hey I can understand how addictive her shows are). So she stopped again, when the initial interest went down. Honestly, I would have done the same.
And remember she wanted the butt surgery already back then. So I think big part of the camshow earnings went into the butt implants in Demeber 2012. All power to her for this smart business decision (doing the camshows - hehe).


Additionally when her schedule said FROM - TO and 4 days a week it doesn't automatically mean she was online 12 hours in a row. It just meant she wanted to go online around this schedule. I know myself I missed her in 2012, because I had other business todo. And in the evening when I had time, she was already gone from the cam portal.


So overall I'm not wondering how everything developed.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 03:41:51 PM by andrat2000 »

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15482 on: April 16, 2018, 03:49:57 PM »
There is a simple main fact for this. The board has decreased in popularity. It is maybe only a 1/4 of former active users. The decrease has several reasons. And sure the other reason is because Beshine doesn't post here anymore. But it is part of the fact why other users left or do not find their way here. Other successful boards, like the European one I am not allowed to link here or say the name. But that other one is going now down, too. Then all the social media that came up replaced the forum boards.
Models and users have more options now than 11 years ago when this thread has been started.

And Beshine discontinued her Faceb..., because it got most likely reported to FB. Surprisingly the same time when someone else found his way to FB. Faceb.... wanted her to verify her identity to unlock her account and her be able to continue posting. It means with ID card and so on ... at least if I remember correct what she told me.

Just my opinion and how I see the problems with FB and others:
Unfortunately all support departments of these US companies in Germany make themselves invisible/unaccessible for Germans, to not get confronted with German laws about hate speech, holocaust denial or the forbidden showing / glorification of nazi symbols.
So she can't even go to the German marketing headquarter frontdoor of FB in Hamburg and demand to re-open her account without showing her ID card to some support idiots in Menlo Park ...

Ah, and I thought Beshine terminated her account secondary to the negativity of the posters. It would certainly be understandable given what I saw. There is a lot of hate there and a gang mentality to demean things not meeting particular narratives. So, do I understand you right that a particular person was instrumental?

Though the rules here may be more strict than perhaps other sites (I have never posted on another BE site, so I really have no knowledge), I find the goal of not disrespecting others a good stance. My guess is that you are right; increased competition from other sites has decreased participation here, which is a shame, because the BEA was the original. Perhaps a more liberal ability to post on others sites is also a drawing card; I still fail to understand and have found no explanation, nor reference chart, in reading the rules for censorship of innocent words; we have all seen Beshine say that while **83** on her stomach is no longer possible, **83** on her back is difficult because of the weight, and her side boobs prevent **83** on her side, thus she sleeps on a particular angle towards her side, which would transfer some of the weight of her boobs onto the bed. Now, if my guess is correct, there will be four times we see a number between asterisk signs in that sentence, censoring a seemingly innocent word.

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15483 on: April 16, 2018, 04:43:45 PM »
Connecting the dots look a bit different for me. Answer is realted to this: http://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?topic=580674.msg10418835#msg10418835


After her last by her reported mega fill-up in mid February 2011 her real fans were happy, but if you followed the thread some complained, some doubted her fill-up. One of these person with the worst critics that went up to being business damaging I even know who this person is. And I can tell you it made me very sad to find this out. This person got removed from the board back then by the mods because of his behaviour. But this banned user came back a few months ago. I recognized him again. Up to now he behaves and I see no reason to report him to the moderators for breaking the rules coming back while being banned. On the other hand that user knows my real life name, so I have a reason to wait and see.

Anyway this posters seem to have shocked Beshine so much, that it even affected the posting frequency the happiness to operate the site. So the update frequency decreased. More people started to critize her (unfortunately, I think, I was one of these latter ones), so she stopped posting more and more.


On the other hand Beshine always wanted to go to webcam. She announced this with or shortly after her website debute. So in February 2012 this was what she did. Starting webcam shows on www.camliveportal.com/cam/beshine
This was so successful that she hardly was in the free chat for a few seconds or a minute or whatever. I can understand that in contrary to people attacking and doubting her on this forum, she better did camshows to people who actually wanted to see her. She was doing this with great success for a few months until people spend a good amount of money (hey I can understand how addictive her shows are). So she stopped again, when the initial interest went down. Honestly, I would have done the same.
And remember she wanted the butt surgery already back then. So I think big part of the camshow earnings went into the butt implants in Demeber 2012. All power to her for this smart business decision (doing the camshows - hehe).


Additionally when her schedule said FROM - TO and 4 days a week it doesn't automatically mean she was online 12 hours in a row. It just meant she wanted to go online around this schedule. I know myself I missed her in 2012, because I had other business todo. And in the evening when I had time, she was already gone from the cam portal.


So overall I'm not wondering how everything developed.

Wow, thank you andrat for some truly enlightening aspects that I had not gleaned from reading the post (not up to the butt implants yet, but the first video time frame). I cannot remember precisely when I first noticed Beshine, before or after the Feb 11 10k mark was hit, but one thing was clearly obvious, despite some talented morphers, this was no morph. I am guessing those posts have been removed or I just ignored the negativity. To be fair, there are a number of posts that I have read, by a number of different people, that lack respect, so as to just single one out, it's just not possible (though the people suggesting porn videos are the most nauseating, followed by the incessant anger regarding the fill up video).

And the cam shows; since schedules were posted, I just assumed that she was dedicating what would seem to be an insane amount of time to them, not realizing, as I read, that that was not necessarily so. The schedules suggested 6 hours on, 6 hours off, then 6 hours on again; a rather horrible schedule to keep for days in a row, and reading that, it came as no surprise to me that she had less time to dedicate to her site.

That said, as I have already stated, that, in my humble opinion, Beshine and her husband were well off financially before she started becoming Beshine; the locations of their vacations, accommodations, rather expensive cars, let alone the frequent first class flying to Madrid for her modifications lend me to believe that. Let alone the fact that I doubt a loan was forthcoming to have those custom implants made. So, I find money a less likely motivating factor in her cam shows, or even her website, but perhaps I am wrong because I have no idea how many members her site has, nor how much she makes off the shows. I always would like to assume that Beshine's motives are more altruistic, as her initial posting here suggests; a girl just wanting to share her dream and the adventure of getting there (although, quite obviously, Beshine continues to dream larger than even she had initially imagined).

That is just my input, but you have actually had more conversation with her, so you likely have a better perspective.

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15484 on: April 16, 2018, 05:25:12 PM »
"Anyway this posters seem to have shocked Beshine so much, that it even affected the posting frequency the happiness to operate the site. So the update frequency decreased. More people started to critize her (unfortunately, I think, I was one of these latter ones), so she stopped posting more and more."

At the point I am in reading this thread, in your defense, I believe you are rebutting others that are complaining that her site updates had fallen from 11 or 12 a month to just 8. I'll have to go back and review that, as well as try to find anyone claiming in Feb 11 that Beshine was not real.

But, specifically, as to her camshows and the idea of connecting to her real fans, I take exception. I consider myself a huge admirerer, however, I have no interest in a show; to me, her best videos and pictures are always the ones deplicting her everyday life; shopping, in public, with Luna, interactions, and expressions. Don't misunderstand, I very much do appreciate the size and shape of her naked breasts, there are no others like them in the world, but it is the real Beshine that I find most enthralling. The only thing better, would be having her actually speaking. I know she could make videos just doing everyday activities around the house while interacting with the camera that would be entertaining to me and there is so much material; though Beshine already knows her physical limitations related to size, just her everyday adaptions to those situations could fill many videos and be both enlightening to many that have never pondered those movements, as well as offer a certain degree of comedic response to the compromises she makes.

But then again, perhaps I am the only one that isn't looking for a show.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 05:29:56 PM by Bombayduk »

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Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15485 on: April 16, 2018, 05:35:54 PM »
"Anyway this posters seem to have shocked Beshine so much, that it even affected the posting frequency the happiness to operate the site. So the update frequency decreased. More people started to critize her (unfortunately, I think, I was one of these latter ones), so she stopped posting more and more."

At the point I am in reading this thread, in your defense, I believe you are rebutting others that are complaining that her site updates had fallen from 11 or 12 a month to just 8. I'll have to go back and review that, as well as try to find anyone claiming in Feb 11 that Beshine was not real.


What I tried to say. These people insisted she had no fill in mid February 2011.

And you would be surprised about the 1on1 camshows booked through her site she can do for her long term fans that enjoyed her camshows for years.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 05:39:10 PM by andrat2000 »

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15486 on: April 16, 2018, 08:27:46 PM »
Just tried to log into Beshine.com and it stated there was a CMS error and I'm unable to get in regardless of which way I try to get in. Anybody else having troubles logging in ? :( ???

Same here

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15487 on: April 16, 2018, 08:55:22 PM »

What I tried to say. These people insisted she had no fill in mid February 2011.

And you would be surprised about the 1on1 camshows booked through her site she can do for her long term fans that enjoyed her camshows for years.
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Wow, if memory serves, the first pic was a green top while sitting on a sofa, followed by the sets from Mallorca pool, the yellow t-shirt with white shorts and the white blouse with baggy pants, each seemingly self-evident of a huge increase, displaying the shining boobs that would later be explained as the result from the skin stretching. Of all the increases, I thought this one to be the most obvious.

That said, my first time reading most of this thread years ago, I remember being skeptical to myself of further increases based upon updates on Beshine's site. I think it took me a couple years before I realized the reason; the updates were often far from chronological order. I remember people debating the evidence here and was tempted to join and post my finding, but never did. If you examine some updates, they are as much as four years old when posted, which could explain a lot of the confusion when they followed many more recently shot sets. I based my conclusion on factors like location, hair length and style, tan, butt, and apparent time of year. There were multiple sets taken at a particular location on Romo in 2013, using artificial lighting (professional) that were released over a four year span. The most obvious are some videos that had hair extensions and no butt implants, released in 2016, a few years after each had been changed (late 2012, I believe). So, I can understand the confusion. I also understand one aspect from Beshine's perspective; I've hired a professional photographer for a day, I should get a number of sets. It makes sense. Of course, from my perspective, I think her husband does a fine job at a variety of locations, and though he may be overly focused on her boobs (close-ups), I can understand that too.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 10:09:29 PM by Bombayduk »

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15488 on: April 16, 2018, 09:01:05 PM »
Just tried to log into Beshine.com and it stated there was a CMS error and I'm unable to get in regardless of which way I try to get in. Anybody else having troubles logging in ? :( ???

Same here

Problem evidently solved

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15489 on: April 17, 2018, 04:29:24 AM »
Andrat, I see what you meant; after reading pages 600 to 700, there was not only a lot of negativity, but some posters were nasty. This time frame was from Dec 2012 to Aug 2013, well after the 10k mark, but people obviously didn't Beshine had had any expansion in a couple years, because she didn't announce one and updates were not noticeably larger. On top of that, site updates dropped dramatically, especially during her extended recovery from the butt implants. And the camshows had stopped. Beshine had become a less frequent visitor before all those things, posting just a few times between 600 & 650, and only once afterwards.

Though I think her decreased postings started when she had so much else going on, I'm sure she was offended when she returned and read the posts. And as I surmised earlier, that she and her husband were well off before she first started on this journey, she confirmed that by replying to a nasty post that she was driving a Porsche and taking lavish vacations before she got her implants.

I guess, in the end, the overblown expectations here exceeded the reality of being Beshine. I can understand her response; I could live without the negativity and be much happier. It is great to have peeps that respect you, but when your FB page is almost entirely nasty, it's time to move on. If someone cannot respect your dreams, they were never a friend to start.

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Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15490 on: April 17, 2018, 06:08:44 AM »
Just tried to log into Beshine.com and it stated there was a CMS error and I'm unable to get in regardless of which way I try to get in. Anybody else having troubles logging in ? :( ???

Same here

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Yup, works fine for me again.  :)

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15491 on: April 17, 2018, 09:12:14 AM »
After reading the pages you mention it's clear what has happened. I wouldn't be suprised if that wave of negativity was what caused Beshine to lose interest in the forum. I think most people would. At the time I didn't realise what was going on, otherwise I would have done more to stand up for her in this discussion.

Anyway I always try to find something positive, and even this situation has showed us something. It really showed that Beshine is expanding because she loves it. Not even this low point online was able to hold her back. And if this didn't hold her back, nothing can  8)

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Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15492 on: April 17, 2018, 03:27:05 PM »
Anyway I always try to find something positive, and even this situation has showed us something. It really showed that Beshine is expanding because she loves it. Not even this low point online was able to hold her back. And if this didn't hold her back, nothing can  8)


Here is something to be positive about.  :)

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15493 on: April 17, 2018, 07:46:14 PM »
After reading the pages you mention it's clear what has happened. I wouldn't be suprised if that wave of negativity was what caused Beshine to lose interest in the forum. I think most people would. At the time I didn't realise what was going on, otherwise I would have done more to stand up for her in this discussion.

Anyway I always try to find something positive, and even this situation has showed us something. It really showed that Beshine is expanding because she loves it. Not even this low point online was able to hold her back. And if this didn't hold her back, nothing can  8)

Indeed, lolchair; I have always cherished the concept of Beshine, the beautiful, innocent girl next door, abet, with incredibly huge boobs, versus any concept suggesting Beshine the business. Of course, our innocent girl next door does have a wild side; an irresistible urge to take her top off even though a passerby may be just around the next corner or tree. But when you have such stunning large and perfect boobies, can we hold that against her? I think not; she loves them so much that she cannot resist the urge to show them off.
Reading those pages, you could not help but read accusations that she was "selling herself," which I found offensive, preferring the thought that she was "sharing herself" and her incredible adventure. All kinds of accusation regarding vast amounts of money she is making are just not credible; she was already quite well off, so this was never a business adventure, but following a dream. I doubt the money she makes pays for much more than her constant need of new custom made sports bras, XXXXL tops, salon days, and pedicures (can't reach her own toes); being Beshine requires maintaining Beshine. I'm not saying Beshine is high maintenance, but having the largest expanding boobs on the planet does come at a cost.
And best of all, as you also point out, no matter of social negativity (which is substantial) has deterred Beshine; she keeps following her dream, likely adding 1k to 2k each year since hitting the 10k milestone. I am happy that she affords us the opportunity to share it.

Re: Beshine says: "hi everyone"
« Reply #15494 on: April 17, 2018, 07:52:37 PM »
Anyway I always try to find something positive, and even this situation has showed us something. It really showed that Beshine is expanding because she loves it. Not even this low point online was able to hold her back. And if this didn't hold her back, nothing can  8)


Here is something to be positive about.  :)

Of course, if that was a recent pic, we would be saying what a great morph; making Beshine's boobies 1/3 the size of reality. Beshine; truly a living morph.