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TheOtherMacman
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« Reply #175 on: November 14, 2007, 07:50:36 AM »

Keep up the good work YokoLover.
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ThousanWhite
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« Reply #176 on: November 15, 2007, 05:29:14 AM »

GOOD GOD!

Implants can't do that!
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« Reply #177 on: November 15, 2007, 06:13:59 AM »

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GOOD GOD!

Implants can't do that!



Okay, I hope we can have a good natured discussion of this issue now. For me, the question is, can natural breast tissue do this? This is a still from Yokolover's avi clip:



The upper edge of her breasts look far too clearly defined to be anything other than implants to me, but of course you are free to disagree (but please don't get emotional about it!).
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« Reply #178 on: November 15, 2007, 07:08:21 AM »

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GOOD GOD!

Implants can't do that!



Okay, I hope we can have a good natured discussion of this issue now. For me, the question is, can natural breast tissue do this? This is a still from Yokolover's avi clip:








Umm... we've got a big community? Does anyone who has models / friends with breasts of roughly that size, a bannister and a willingness to pose for a photo?

And Mac, please for the record, don't dispute the 'implantness' of the volunteer!



Those boobs are delicious.
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« Reply #179 on: November 15, 2007, 07:16:11 AM »

There must be a comparable image out there somewhere of an unquestioned natural wonder (e.g. Jana Defi). Out of this entire community, I'm sure someone can deliver the goods!
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YokoLover
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« Reply #180 on: November 15, 2007, 08:04:53 AM »

Hitomi is looking very tasty here...

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FlapJackFun
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« Reply #181 on: November 15, 2007, 10:23:08 AM »

Hitomi mentioned today that she is will cease making DVDs if people keep questioning the authenticity or her breasts...  In other news, she is making a CD.  
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ThousanWhite
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« Reply #182 on: November 15, 2007, 02:17:44 PM »

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Is that Hitomi in your avatar TF22?




Yep!



Is there a larger version of that?
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benfan
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« Reply #183 on: November 15, 2007, 02:35:09 PM »

 
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 The upper edge of her breasts look far too clearly defined to be anything other than implants to me


Eh, firm natural breasts behave exactly like that.  Especially when confined laterally by bra or lingerie straps. Here's just the first image I came across of an undoubtedly natural model (Rio Natsume) displaying sharp definition at the top of the breast, even without being pushed up by a bannister:

 

Not just on this comparison, but on the other clips and pics I've seen (don't have the DVD yet) I vote for Hitomi being natural.
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Loverofbigtits
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« Reply #184 on: November 15, 2007, 03:22:59 PM »

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There must be a comparable image out there somewhere of an unquestioned natural wonder (e.g. Jana Defi). Out of this entire community, I'm sure someone can deliver the goods!




Oh, and by the way, jana Defi surely has implants!!!!!
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Real
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« Reply #185 on: November 15, 2007, 04:34:56 PM »

 http://www.pinupglam.com/jana-boobproof.html

christ.  wether its one way or the other ill never understand the indignance of some people and their  opinions on boobs theyve only ever seen pictures of...

on topic; kudos on that awesome gif tf22.
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« Reply #186 on: November 15, 2007, 05:08:24 PM »

Honesty with oneself is the first step in the situation in order to eliminate the impossible.  I believe Jana's breasts are real, but not because of the boob proof experiment.  As for Rio, again, another example of comparing someone and saying there is a similarity they both display, but claiming one is undoutedly real making the other one real as well, when you can't really do that.  That being said, the last picture of Hitomi is out of this world.
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« Reply #187 on: November 15, 2007, 05:37:51 PM »

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Hitomi mentioned today that she is will cease making DVDs if people keep questioning the authenticity or her breasts...  In other news, she is making a CD.  


"If you don't believe I'm all-natural, I'm taking my boobs and goin' home!"

So, how do we convince her that we are all True Believers? Do we have to line up like the Cowardly Lion in The Wizard of Oz and say over and over "I do believe in boobs, I do believe in boobs, I do, I do, I DO believe!" or what?

Nice pictures by the way, guys...keep them up, please.
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« Reply #188 on: November 15, 2007, 05:42:41 PM »

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Is there a larger version of that?




Yep! Threw it in the animated gif thread yesterday.

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benfan
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« Reply #189 on: November 15, 2007, 05:47:10 PM »

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As for Rio, again, another example of comparing someone and saying there is a similarity they both display, but claiming one is undoutedly real making the other one real as well, when you can't really do that.  


I didn't claim that; Macman issued a challenge to provide images of natural models who display sharp definition at top of breast like Hitomi does in the bannister shot, so I did.  My own belief that Hitomi is natural is based on repeated (some might say obsessive ) viewing of all the pics and vids I've been able to find.  I don't think this one comparison to Rio is conclusive in any way just a refutation of the specific point of "evidence" cited by Macman.

And btw I've certainly got nothing against implants and Hitomi would be a doll either way, I just think this is an interesting point of discussion....Thanks for the pics already posted and please do keep 'em coming!

edit: great gif, TF22!  What wonderful wobblies!
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« Reply #190 on: November 15, 2007, 07:16:35 PM »

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 The upper edge of her breasts look far too clearly defined to be anything other than implants to me


Eh, firm natural breasts behave exactly like that.  Especially when confined laterally by bra or lingerie straps. Here's just the first image I came across of an undoubtedly natural model (Rio Natsume) displaying sharp definition at the top of the breast, even without being pushed up by a bannister:

 

Not just on this comparison, but on the other clips and pics I've seen (don't have the DVD yet) I vote for Hitomi being natural.



To me, this image doesn't really prove anything one way or the other. The upper edge of Rio's breasts in this photo look far more natural than in Hitomi's photo, but they are also less "pushed up", so it is inconclusive. One thing's for sure though: this photo certainly does not provide any support to the notion that Hitomi is all-natural.
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Loverofbigtits
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« Reply #191 on: November 15, 2007, 10:29:43 PM »

Not sure if this has been posted but check out some pics here

http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/kattcyaman8/folder/469323.html?m=lc&p=2
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Loverofbigtits
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« Reply #192 on: November 15, 2007, 10:50:55 PM »

http://www.badongo.com/vid/521579/1
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« Reply #193 on: November 16, 2007, 08:05:18 AM »

Here's a 5:48 sec clip : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzfvgU6378

I'll be buggered if i can figure out whether she's fake or not. I think I'm starting to have my doubts. She also comes across as somewhat amateurish in how she's debuted herself to the world; maybe her representatives want her to evince an girl off the street type of aura. Who knows?
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Adman
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« Reply #194 on: November 16, 2007, 05:32:39 PM »

They are real...they look, squish, jiggle, and hang like real.  They are different sizes like real.  Just because they are full doesn't mean anything...if you want to see good fakes, that's Denise Milani (another debate...but since I've met her and know people that know her, I can settle that debate).
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TripleB
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« Reply #195 on: November 16, 2007, 06:35:45 PM »

Look up Miyabi Isshiki and you will see excessive squishing in a "boob preview" video.  I think the intent was to show their realness.  To me she is just a better looking version of Hitomi.
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« Reply #196 on: November 16, 2007, 08:12:06 PM »

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They are real...they look, squish, jiggle, and hang like real.  They are different sizes like real.  Just because they are full doesn't mean anything...if you want to see good fakes, that's Denise Milani (another debate...but since I've met her and know people that know her, I can settle that debate).



Pssh... Japanese doctors have magical miracle implants that look nearly indistinguishable from real breasts but the refuse to share their technology with the Americans. DUH.
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TheOtherMacman
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« Reply #197 on: November 16, 2007, 08:27:58 PM »

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Adman said:
They are real...they look, squish, jiggle, and hang like real.  They are different sizes like real.  Just because they are full doesn't mean anything...if you want to see good fakes, that's Denise Milani (another debate...but since I've met her and know people that know her, I can settle that debate).



Pssh... Japanese doctors have magical miracle implants that look nearly indistinguishable from real breasts but the refuse to share their technology with the Americans. DUH.



If you read my earlier post, you would see there is no miracle - it's just simple physics. Perform my "water bag" experiment, and you will see that a free floating underfilled saline implant can jiggle like hell. In fact, if you look at the part of the AVI where she's lying on her back and they play with her right breast, you will see that the way it jiggles is actually more like an underfilled bag of water than natural breast tissue. Try the experiment!
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Loverofbigtits
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« Reply #198 on: November 16, 2007, 09:51:40 PM »

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Look up Miyabi Isshiki




Anyone know this chicks measurements?
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adlion944
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« Reply #199 on: November 17, 2007, 12:46:05 AM »

Hey TheOtherMacman, if the experiment is so simple and all it requires is underfilling an implant bag with saline, then I guess I can understand why no American plastic surgeon has figured that trick out.

Because it's not like the USA has 1,000 times as many vain, millionaire women chasing youth who would pay ungodly sums for natural boobs like Hitomi Tanaka's.  And it's not like the USA doesn't have 10,000 percent more plastic surgeons than Japan including the largest residency program on Earth for the specialty.

And I guess our clever Japanese friends have the secret of underfilling the bag all to themselves... they alone posses the secret of natural, soft boobs that no American can quite figure out.

Yep... no American woman would want to pay a surgeon in the USA for boobs like Hitomi's.  Yep, just in Japan, a country with half the US population, a quarter the wealth, and 1/100th of 1% the American addiction to plastic surgery.  Makes total sense.

But, then I guess the handful of new girls in JAV with fake boobs didn't get the Japanese plastic surgery superiority memo since their tits are every bit as fake looking as American strippers and porn stars.
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TripleB
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« Reply #200 on: November 17, 2007, 12:56:40 AM »

TheOtherMacman is just trying to say that there are notciable flaws in the natural physics of her breasts compared to most large natural breasts.  There's a reason why large breasts move the way they do.  Look at Anya, her breasts become pancakes when she's on her back but they look fuller and heavier than any breasts I've seen on a girl with such a tiny body.  If she was say, Rio Natsume size and they put a couple half filled bags in her breasts, they would just look bigger and not move around as independtly, exactly like her breasts look.  We'll have to cut her open and find out.
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« Reply #201 on: November 17, 2007, 01:03:40 AM »

Here we go again with the "they must be real because American surgeons are the best in the world" argument. There is a belief amongst American surgeons that overfilled saline implants are the safest, which is why they tend to do them this way. Also, many American women actually want the fake look - Pamela Anderson has topped many women's magazines surveys as having the "most beautiful" or "most desirable" breasts. Once again, if you actually knew anything about this subject (instead of jumping to conclusions that the US must always be the best at everything) you would know this.

Because of US surgeons' habit of overfilling saline implants in the supposed interests of safety (which I personally disgaree with), and their reluctance to use silicone in the interests of safety (which I also disagree with), they actually produce, on average, the most fake looking implants in the world. Australia and the UK are both better, due to the wide availability of silicone implants. And as we know, the Japanese are masters at underfilled salines, as their market demands the most natural looking result. And like it or not, the Japanese are much more quality oriented than the US market, and they are much more willing to pay for it.

I should also point out that while smooth underfilled salines look the most natural, they certainly don't feel that way - it feels like there's a water bag floating around inside the breast, which of course there actually is. The most natural feeling implants are rough slicones, as they don't move around and silicone feels a lot more like natural breast tissue. But they look a lot firmer.
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adlion944
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« Reply #202 on: November 17, 2007, 03:01:13 AM »

Nice stock post - a cut and paste of an answer you gave on another board.

Yes, plastic surgeons in the US are the absolute best on the face of the Earth.  Indisputable.  That trashes your first debate point.

And as for "most American women wanting the fake look" - are you actually serious?  I've never met a single woman with implants who wanted anything but natural looking tits.  Strike two.

Silicone implants are also perfectly legal in the US.  And the amount an implant is filled has zippo to do with safety.  Strike three.

I assume you have no medical credentials, and unlike me, don't have common sense on your side either.

Ugh.  Who cares?  Debating you is like talking to a robot with bad programming.  Whatever.
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« Reply #203 on: November 17, 2007, 03:16:57 AM »

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Yes, plastic surgeons in the US are the absolute best on the face of the Earth.  Indisputable.  That trashes your first debate point.



Bald faced assertion without any evidence to back it up number one. And even if they are the best surgeons in the world, that is irrelevent anyway. As I explained, US surgeons do things this way for reasons of perceived safety.

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And as for "most American women wanting the fake look" - are you actually serious?  I've never met a single woman with implants who wanted anything but natural looking tits.  Strike two.



Yes I am, although I said "many", not "most". A lot of white women want their tits to look "better" than real, and they don't want them to sag (another problem with implants like Hitomi's is that they will sag over time). So yes, a lot of American women (and Australian and European) do not want their tits to look as natural as Hitomi's, and especially not to sag as naturally as Hitomi's.

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Lastly, I know real tits when I see them. My eyes seem to work and yours don't.  Strike three.



Bald faced assertion without any evidence to back it up number two. And people accuse me of stating my opinion as fact!

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By the way, Mr. Expert, what are your medical credentials?

I assume you have none, and unlike me, don't have common sense on your side either.



Given that you are so willing to make bald faced assertions without any evidence, your claim of having "common sense" is highly dubious also.

And I do have some training and experience in the field of plastic surgery, although I don't practice it professionally - the reader can decide for themsleves if they think I know what I'm talking about. I'm sure any sensible person would conclude that I know more about this subject than you do, and am a far more rational and logical thinker. Unlike you, I have attempted to provide evidence to support my case, which the reader can decide for themselves is valid or not. You on the other hand just state your opinion as fact, without providing any evidence to back it up whatsoever.
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« Reply #204 on: November 17, 2007, 05:12:16 AM »

Where are you from, seriously? I'm really curious.
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Given that you are so willing to make bald faced assertions without any evidence, your claim of having "common sense" is highly dubious also.



If you can provide it, I would like to see evidence of a Japanese doctor's portfolio where he/she shows off this augmentation type. Many doctors publish their portfolios online, and I would like to see a portfolio that shows a girl with implants like this girl's. So far, the evidence you have provided is pictures saying "this girl's breasts lay differently than this girl's so they must be fake".

Also, what was your training? Did you go to medical school? Do you personally know a surgeon?

Another thing I would like to know is why American doctors seem to think that overfilling an implant is safer than underfilling an implant. I'm fully aware that saline implants are overfilled in the US, but I have never seen anything saying that it was done out of safety. I thought it was done to get a larger size without having to seek out a larger implant (sac).

Finally, please stop saying that women want fake looking boobs, few do. If it was made public that it was possible to get implants that made your breasts look nearly indistinguishable from large natural breasts, there would be  zillions of women that would jump at the opportunity. If you honestly don't believe this, then there really isn't a way for me to convince you otherwise, it's just common sense.
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« Reply #205 on: November 17, 2007, 06:08:56 AM »

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Glottis said:Finally, please stop saying that women want fake looking boobs, few do. If it was made public that it was possible to get implants that made your breasts look nearly indistinguishable from large natural breasts, there would be  zillions of women that would jump at the opportunity. If you honestly don't believe this, then there really isn't a way for me to convince you otherwise, it's just common sense.



It's "common sense" for the sorts of guys who come to this forum, but I think you'd be surprised at the number of women who really don't want absolutely natural looking implants (or very large implants for that matter). Women like "perky" breasts - they really see this issue quite differently from the way a lot of men do. Indeed, a lot of women get implants not to make their breasts bigger, but to make them firmer - for example, after they have children.

As to why US surgeons think overfilling is safer, I have never actually gotten a satisfactory answer to this. They say it makes them less prone to rupture, but I would have thought it would make them more prone myself. I really think they are simply wrong about this, as they are about silicone implants being "unsafe" - IMHO, modern silicone implants are actually safer than saline.

BTW, your suggested reason that they overfill them so they can use a smaller size doesn't make sense, as the different standard sizes have very little (if any) difference in price from eachother - any difference that does exist is insignificant compared with the total cost of the operation. Custom sizes are obvioulsy a lot more expensive though.

Oh yes, I have had medical training, and I do know a surgeon personally - the top breast implant surgeon in Australia in fact. And yes, I am from Australia. However, I don't think any of this really matters - just judge the evidence objectively on its own merits, and don't jump to conclusions on the basis of "common sense" or whatever.
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« Reply #206 on: November 17, 2007, 09:33:44 AM »

Zzz...Zzz...
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« Reply #207 on: November 17, 2007, 10:01:33 AM »

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Zzz...Zzz...




Agreed, this is me not caring whether she's fake or real...

 
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« Reply #208 on: November 17, 2007, 10:06:17 AM »

  Real.. fake... does it even really matter?  I'm a fan of natural breasts myself, but I don't really care one way or the other if it isn't obvious.  Does the young woman in question have implants?  I don't know.  I don't think a single person on this board has any difinitive proof one way or the other.  How's about we open a  seperate thread to discuss her authenticity, and leave this thread for discussion of Ms. Hitomi herself?

  I mean, seriously.  She looks awesome.  Why clutter a thread devoted to her beauty with useless (and so far, fruitless) arguments.  Suspend disbelief and ENJOY, people!
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« Reply #209 on: November 17, 2007, 10:58:21 AM »

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Look up Miyabi Isshiki




Anyone know this chicks measurements?




Well, what the hell?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh??
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