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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #195 on: November 16, 2007, 03:35:45 PM »
Look up Miyabi Isshiki and you will see excessive squishing in a "boob preview" video.  I think the intent was to show their realness.  To me she is just a better looking version of Hitomi.

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Glottis

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #196 on: November 16, 2007, 05:12:06 PM »
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They are real...they look, squish, jiggle, and hang like real.  They are different sizes like real.  Just because they are full doesn't mean anything...if you want to see good fakes, that's Denise Milani (another debate...but since I've met her and know people that know her, I can settle that debate).



Pssh... Japanese doctors have magical miracle implants that look nearly indistinguishable from real breasts but the refuse to share their technology with the Americans. DUH.

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TheOtherMacman

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #197 on: November 16, 2007, 05:27:58 PM »
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Adman said:
They are real...they look, squish, jiggle, and hang like real.  They are different sizes like real.  Just because they are full doesn't mean anything...if you want to see good fakes, that's Denise Milani (another debate...but since I've met her and know people that know her, I can settle that debate).



Pssh... Japanese doctors have magical miracle implants that look nearly indistinguishable from real breasts but the refuse to share their technology with the Americans. DUH.



If you read my earlier post, you would see there is no miracle - it's just simple physics. Perform my "water bag" experiment, and you will see that a free floating underfilled saline implant can jiggle like hell. In fact, if you look at the part of the AVI where she's lying on her back and they play with her right breast, you will see that the way it jiggles is actually more like an underfilled bag of water than natural breast tissue. Try the experiment!

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Loverofbigtits

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #198 on: November 16, 2007, 06:51:40 PM »
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Look up Miyabi Isshiki




Anyone know this chicks measurements?

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adlion944

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #199 on: November 16, 2007, 09:46:05 PM »
Hey TheOtherMacman, if the experiment is so simple and all it requires is underfilling an implant bag with saline, then I guess I can understand why no American plastic surgeon has figured that trick out.

Because it's not like the USA has 1,000 times as many vain, millionaire women chasing youth who would pay ungodly sums for natural boobs like Hitomi Tanaka's.  And it's not like the USA doesn't have 10,000 percent more plastic surgeons than Japan including the largest residency program on Earth for the specialty.

And I guess our clever Japanese friends have the secret of underfilling the bag all to themselves... they alone posses the secret of natural, soft boobs that no American can quite figure out.

Yep... no American woman would want to pay a surgeon in the USA for boobs like Hitomi's.  Yep, just in Japan, a country with half the US population, a quarter the wealth, and 1/100th of 1% the American addiction to plastic surgery.  Makes total sense.

But, then I guess the handful of new girls in JAV with fake boobs didn't get the Japanese plastic surgery superiority memo since their tits are every bit as fake looking as American strippers and porn stars.

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #200 on: November 16, 2007, 09:56:40 PM »
TheOtherMacman is just trying to say that there are notciable flaws in the natural physics of her breasts compared to most large natural breasts.  There's a reason why large breasts move the way they do.  Look at Anya, her breasts become pancakes when she's on her back but they look fuller and heavier than any breasts I've seen on a girl with such a tiny body.  If she was say, Rio Natsume size and they put a couple half filled bags in her breasts, they would just look bigger and not move around as independtly, exactly like her breasts look.  We'll have to cut her open and find out.

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #201 on: November 16, 2007, 10:03:40 PM »
Here we go again with the "they must be real because American surgeons are the best in the world" argument. There is a belief amongst American surgeons that overfilled saline implants are the safest, which is why they tend to do them this way. Also, many American women actually want the fake look - Pamela Anderson has topped many women's magazines surveys as having the "most beautiful" or "most desirable" breasts. Once again, if you actually knew anything about this subject (instead of jumping to conclusions that the US must always be the best at everything) you would know this.

Because of US surgeons' habit of overfilling saline implants in the supposed interests of safety (which I personally disgaree with), and their reluctance to use silicone in the interests of safety (which I also disagree with), they actually produce, on average, the most fake looking implants in the world. Australia and the UK are both better, due to the wide availability of silicone implants. And as we know, the Japanese are masters at underfilled salines, as their market demands the most natural looking result. And like it or not, the Japanese are much more quality oriented than the US market, and they are much more willing to pay for it.

I should also point out that while smooth underfilled salines look the most natural, they certainly don't feel that way - it feels like there's a water bag floating around inside the breast, which of course there actually is. The most natural feeling implants are rough slicones, as they don't move around and silicone feels a lot more like natural breast tissue. But they look a lot firmer.

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #202 on: November 17, 2007, 12:01:13 AM »
Nice stock post - a cut and paste of an answer you gave on another board.

Yes, plastic surgeons in the US are the absolute best on the face of the Earth.  Indisputable.  That trashes your first debate point.

And as for "most American women wanting the fake look" - are you actually serious?  I've never met a single woman with implants who wanted anything but natural looking tits.  Strike two.

Silicone implants are also perfectly legal in the US.  And the amount an implant is filled has zippo to do with safety.  Strike three.

I assume you have no medical credentials, and unlike me, don't have common sense on your side either.

Ugh.  Who cares?  Debating you is like talking to a robot with bad programming.  Whatever.

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #203 on: November 17, 2007, 12:16:57 AM »
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Yes, plastic surgeons in the US are the absolute best on the face of the Earth.  Indisputable.  That trashes your first debate point.



Bald faced assertion without any evidence to back it up number one. And even if they are the best surgeons in the world, that is irrelevent anyway. As I explained, US surgeons do things this way for reasons of perceived safety.

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And as for "most American women wanting the fake look" - are you actually serious?  I've never met a single woman with implants who wanted anything but natural looking tits.  Strike two.



Yes I am, although I said "many", not "most". A lot of white women want their tits to look "better" than real, and they don't want them to sag (another problem with implants like Hitomi's is that they will sag over time). So yes, a lot of American women (and Australian and European) do not want their tits to look as natural as Hitomi's, and especially not to sag as naturally as Hitomi's.

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Lastly, I know real tits when I see them. My eyes seem to work and yours don't.  Strike three.



Bald faced assertion without any evidence to back it up number two. And people accuse me of stating my opinion as fact!

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By the way, Mr. Expert, what are your medical credentials?

I assume you have none, and unlike me, don't have common sense on your side either.



Given that you are so willing to make bald faced assertions without any evidence, your claim of having "common sense" is highly dubious also.

And I do have some training and experience in the field of plastic surgery, although I don't practice it professionally - the reader can decide for themsleves if they think I know what I'm talking about. I'm sure any sensible person would conclude that I know more about this subject than you do, and am a far more rational and logical thinker. Unlike you, I have attempted to provide evidence to support my case, which the reader can decide for themselves is valid or not. You on the other hand just state your opinion as fact, without providing any evidence to back it up whatsoever.

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #204 on: November 17, 2007, 02:12:16 AM »
Where are you from, seriously? I'm really curious.
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Given that you are so willing to make bald faced assertions without any evidence, your claim of having "common sense" is highly dubious also.



If you can provide it, I would like to see evidence of a Japanese doctor's portfolio where he/she shows off this augmentation type. Many doctors publish their portfolios online, and I would like to see a portfolio that shows a girl with implants like this girl's. So far, the evidence you have provided is pictures saying "this girl's breasts lay differently than this girl's so they must be fake".

Also, what was your training? Did you go to medical school? Do you personally know a surgeon?

Another thing I would like to know is why American doctors seem to think that overfilling an implant is safer than underfilling an implant. I'm fully aware that saline implants are overfilled in the US, but I have never seen anything saying that it was done out of safety. I thought it was done to get a larger size without having to seek out a larger implant (sac).

Finally, please stop saying that women want fake looking boobs, few do. If it was made public that it was possible to get implants that made your breasts look nearly indistinguishable from large natural breasts, there would be  zillions of women that would jump at the opportunity. If you honestly don't believe this, then there really isn't a way for me to convince you otherwise, it's just common sense.

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #205 on: November 17, 2007, 03:08:56 AM »
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Glottis said:Finally, please stop saying that women want fake looking boobs, few do. If it was made public that it was possible to get implants that made your breasts look nearly indistinguishable from large natural breasts, there would be  zillions of women that would jump at the opportunity. If you honestly don't believe this, then there really isn't a way for me to convince you otherwise, it's just common sense.



It's "common sense" for the sorts of guys who come to this forum, but I think you'd be surprised at the number of women who really don't want absolutely natural looking implants (or very large implants for that matter). Women like "perky" breasts - they really see this issue quite differently from the way a lot of men do. Indeed, a lot of women get implants not to make their breasts bigger, but to make them firmer - for example, after they have children.

As to why US surgeons think overfilling is safer, I have never actually gotten a satisfactory answer to this. They say it makes them less prone to rupture, but I would have thought it would make them more prone myself. I really think they are simply wrong about this, as they are about silicone implants being "unsafe" - IMHO, modern silicone implants are actually safer than saline.

BTW, your suggested reason that they overfill them so they can use a smaller size doesn't make sense, as the different standard sizes have very little (if any) difference in price from eachother - any difference that does exist is insignificant compared with the total cost of the operation. Custom sizes are obvioulsy a lot more expensive though.

Oh yes, I have had medical training, and I do know a surgeon personally - the top breast implant surgeon in Australia in fact. And yes, I am from Australia. However, I don't think any of this really matters - just judge the evidence objectively on its own merits, and don't jump to conclusions on the basis of "common sense" or whatever.

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #206 on: November 17, 2007, 06:33:44 AM »
Zzz...Zzz...

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #207 on: November 17, 2007, 07:01:33 AM »
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Zzz...Zzz...




Agreed, this is me not caring whether she's fake or real...

 
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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #208 on: November 17, 2007, 07:06:17 AM »
  Real.. fake... does it even really matter?  I'm a fan of natural breasts myself, but I don't really care one way or the other if it isn't obvious.  Does the young woman in question have implants?  I don't know.  I don't think a single person on this board has any difinitive proof one way or the other.  How's about we open a  seperate thread to discuss her authenticity, and leave this thread for discussion of Ms. Hitomi herself?

  I mean, seriously.  She looks awesome.  Why clutter a thread devoted to her beauty with useless (and so far, fruitless) arguments.  Suspend disbelief and ENJOY, people!
I'm not defending my obsession, I'm just indulging in it.

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Loverofbigtits

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Re: Hitomi Tanaka aka Tanaka Hitomi MERGED
« Reply #209 on: November 17, 2007, 07:58:21 AM »
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TripleB said:
Look up Miyabi Isshiki




Anyone know this chicks measurements?




Well, what the hell????????????????????????