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Author Topic: Elvira Look-Alike ... who is she?  (Read 11729 times)
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« on: June 07, 2003, 02:42:12 PM »

we saw these pics a while back.  i was wondering if anyone knows who she is.  she has some bombs that would put her well in the ranks of the BEA famous femme fatales.
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2003, 02:42:41 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2003, 03:33:14 PM »

The only thing I've read (probably here) is that she's about 6' tall and can be seen at Mardi Gras or on Halloween in New Orleans, and she used to do something with buckets on stage to demonstrate the size of her breasts.  
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2003, 04:09:39 PM »

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The only thing I've read (probably here) is that she's about 6' tall and can be seen at Mardi Gras or on Halloween in New Orleans, and she used to do something with buckets on stage to demonstrate the size of her breasts.    



I didn't see her at either.  Then again, I didn't get down to Bourbon Street until Fat Tuesday, and Halloween was spent at a house party at my apartment away from downtown.

I can say for certain, however, that whoever this lady is, she isn't a regular patron at any of the "goth" bars or clubs that I tend to haunt.

She looks a bit like Mistress Rhiannon, but without the bee-sting lip work or artificial dentition.  No clue, however, as to who this lady is.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2003, 02:09:22 AM »


Just a hunch, but she bears a resemblance to one of Russ Meyer's vixens:

I think she may be Raven De La Croix.

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2003, 09:48:04 AM »

>we saw these pics a while back. i was wondering if anyone knows who she is. she has some bombs that would put her well in the ranks of the BEA famous femme fatales.

This is a picture of maked-up Lolo Ferrari. "Euro Trash Can" had some filmed in New Orleans episodes with her, then she was invited for a play of "Queen of MG" in New Orleans in 1996 (I think). I don't know - maybe these episodes were included into "Eurotrash, Unzipped" Lolo Ferrari video collection -  ((http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005QX8L/402-1744047-5439336)).
 
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2003, 11:08:14 AM »

Lolo?  Recognize the chest obviously Tongue  But she looks a lot older to me @_@
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2003, 02:44:39 PM »

Certainly she does. MG is a king of carnaval (mask-show). For LF age make-up was a single mode to stay unknown for her potential fans during this carnaval. But it was definitely her face.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2003, 07:19:18 PM »

AS USUAL, Shadowcom doesn't have a freakin CLUE!  This is NOT Lolo unless she faked her death and then moved to New Orleans!  I have run into her several times in the past and ran into her again about 6 months ago in Lafitte's Blacksmith Shop (piano bar) out on the quiet end of Bourbon St.  

As far as I can gather from bits and pieces, she's not a dancer (at least any more) and lives somewhere in the Quarter and apparently is somewhat financially "well off".   The name I got is Rita.  

Also, I think that these pictures are a little enhanced though.  She's big (about Plenty Uptopp size) but not as big as in these photos, but again, every time I've seen her, she's been in a little more conservative clothing than in these pictures.


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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2003, 07:24:05 PM »

Tugboatcap,

Hey!  Glad to see another New Orleanian.  Well, actually I'm a New Yorker here in The Big Easy every few months for business.

Anyway, I was at Lafitte's the other night actually, and asked Johnny Gordon, the wonderful piano player, if he had any clue who I was talking about.  He replied in the negative.  Really made me wonder if she was real.  Maybe we can out a APB out on this woman or something?!  Who knows...get Norm Robinson to cover it on TV or something.  
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2003, 07:45:43 PM »

Those pictures were taken no later than April 1998, according to the time stamps on my copies of those pictures.
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2003, 07:46:15 PM »

I've also run into her in Broussard's resturant.  

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(Killer Martinis too!  What more can a man ask for?!?!)

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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2003, 03:00:48 AM »

>AS USUAL, Shadowcom doesn't have a freakin CLUE! This is NOT Lolo unless she faked her death and then moved to New Orleans! I have run into her several times in the past and ran into her again about 6 months ago in Lafitte's Blacksmith Shop (piano bar) out on the quiet end of Bourbon St.

Any pictures of her ? Prove it, if you can. If you know her location, well, it will not be a big problem for you - just make some small "underground"-made photos of this woman (of her face), made by yours.
If no - you'll be considered like another one BEA PEND(os), because my information about Lolo Ferrari and "Euro Trash Can" was correct.
As for pictures - first one of theirs set was posted in BEA in 1997 (November-December).
 
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2003, 09:29:26 AM »

i thought those pics looked enhanced a tad from when i originally saw them.  anyone have the originals?  
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2003, 10:40:38 AM »

>i thought those pics looked enhanced a tad from when i originally saw them. anyone have the originals?

This morning I checked my collection for these pictures. First one appeared at BEA 12 December 1997. Its title was "Not-Elvira.jpeg". The person, who sent it, wrote, that he made this picture in NO during Mardi Gras (MG) festival/carnaval/masks show/something like this. He (IMHO it was WillG, but I'm not sure) asked this woman about the place, there he can meet her, but she left him with a group of foreign tourists(!). 04 February 1998 at BEA appeared one more picture of her under the title "Not-Elvira2.jpeg", posted by the same person. Both these pictures you can see here. That's all about this story.

Now the question. If this woman is from NO, if she has in her age so artificially well enchanced by implants breasts (she can easily be about 50, 60 or even more years - and at this age implants are already very heavy for women) - this means only one thing, that she participates (in any possible form) in erotic\porno business of NO. Because it's difficult to imagine any woman - housekeeper, - having the breasts of this size only for her own pleasure at this age (for a moment we forget the case of Melonie Charm, who is not properly housekeeper).

Also, the most simple mode to find her in NO is to go to any well-organized pip/sex/etc. show and to ask about her. It's evident, that this lady should be well-known in NO to any keeper of this kind of "enterprises", because the group of "workers" of this business is very limited and every bright woman will be immediately known to everyone.  And there is no difference, what is her activity in this business.

But till this moment we don't have any information about her. I think, that there are at least several NO town-dwellers among the members of BEA. These pictures were commonly known among BEA members for already many years. But any of these people said nothing about this woman during these last 5 years. The same is for different erotic/porno/etc. editions and magazines, publishing photos of BB, 40+, 50+, 60+, etc. women. No new pictures, no any information.

This means only, that she's not from NO. Woman, "covered" by make-up, having large artificial breasts, walking with group of foreign tourists, during festival/carnaval/masks show.... And as I said - there was a TV program of "Euro Trash Can" with LF starring, there "ETC" went to NO MG festival/carnaval/masks show.

Now the question is about Lolo Ferrari presence on these pictures. I've made a short analyse, proving, that this maked up woman is Lolo Ferrari (1995-1997). Some details of it can be seen on attached picture - normally anyone here, having enough LF pictures can easily do the same and get the same conclusions. Most important thing is a correct choice of LF pictures of this periode of time. Before it she was enough plump woman because of her body constitution and after it she became very plump because of absence of possibility of moving - because of enormous weight of her breasts. Finally some important specific details were covered by body fat, extending the skin.

Anyway, any physiognomist or physiopathologist (police criminal service) can easily confirm an identity of faces of maked up woman on picture and LF.

However, there is another one opportunity to get more information about her - sometimes here appears Chief Editor of "Score" magazine. Why can't these two pictures be published by "Score" with short letter of one of BB-fans, describing his wonderful meeting with this mystery woman in LO during MG masquerade with an ask to write something about her ? For sure some information about this woman can be obtained by this mode (if this womn s still alive - certainly).
 
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2003, 01:38:50 AM »

Pend- To suspend payment on a claim until additional information is received about the claim.

Okay, I can see your sentiment, however misguided it is.  Take into consideration that I have been more right, more often than you. If you don't believe me, fine. I am certainly not going to waste my time trying to convince you.
For everone else, I will make a composite illustrating why I believe it isn't Lolo.
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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2003, 01:43:14 AM »

Shadowcom,
I am completely Overwhelmed by your astounding assumptions and unbelievably flawed logic!  NOT!  As I said before, she said she was a homemaker and if she was a dancer, she has retired.  Believe it or not Shadowcom, there are people in this world WAY smarter than you and with a lot more knowledge of the USA. I lived in New Orleans for years and still frequent New Orleans WAY more than you do.  If you had ever been to New Orleans, you would know that there are lots and lots of people that have lifestyles such as the woman in these pictures and are NOT in the PORN INDUSTRY!  New Orleans is a Mecca for Unusual People, both in body and in art, and just because this woman has enhanced breasts does NOT mean she is a dancer/porn actress/prostitute.  I highly suggest you shut the #$%$ up unless you have spent as much time as I have in New Orleans over the years, much less the USA.  I know you will now spout off at the mouth with some pseudo psychobabble that supposedly demonstrates your self-touted massive intelligence of which you have used to convince everyone at the BEA of the reality that you sir, are a complete and total idiot!

Good DAY!

(Apologies to the rest of the board for this rant)

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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2003, 04:28:19 AM »

As promised...  
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2003, 06:30:36 AM »

S>As promised...

This mode of identification does not work in this situation. Should I explain why ? Here the system of person identification, based on his/her physical characteristics, created by Bertillon can't work and can't be used.

That's why I used more difficult, but more efficient in this situation mode of identification - f.e. it's very difficult to find two women in the world, having similiar location of birth-marks.

PS PEND(os) - it's not a name - it's status: 1) juridical (legal); 2) social; 3) intellectual and cultural. Certainly - this is special juridical (legal) status for very specific group of people - originally (since 1917) in France (now EC), but later also in USA.

T> I am completely Overwhelmed by your astounding assumptions and unbelievably ...

As I said - try to prove it. Because in TV program of "Euro Trash Can" LF had the same make up and costume. The same maked up face, costume, place (NO), time ... etc.
 
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2003, 01:25:54 PM »

What about the identifiable mole on the face? You've ignored the one over the lip.

As far as "birthmarks" go, my wife and two sons have identical birthmarks at the base of their skulls.

Sigh. Here I go trying to convince you again...
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2003, 03:54:03 PM »

If you accept the fact that this photo is from New Orleans, then there is NO WAY that this is Lolo Ferrari. Lolo was deathly afraid of flying, she never came to America. She hardly ever even left France.

If you were really such a Lolo fan you would know this.
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2003, 05:30:19 PM »

   They all have that certain look about them.  

   
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2003, 06:26:59 PM »

S>What about the identifiable mole on the face? You've ignored the one over the lip.

You see, the lips can't be used for identification. Even more - during process of comparison of faces by criminal they are normally removed from the pictures (the mouth is very flexible "part" of human face). As for an impossibility to use your mode of comparison - the main problem is that it works very well only in that case if both faces on pictures have similiar position - f.e. strict frontal look. For examination you used a picture of LF, there her head is considerably turned left. Most of "mistakes" that you found are originated of it. To make a good comparision - both faces on pictures should be turned on the same angle.

S>As far as "birthmarks" go, my wife and two sons have identical birthmarks at the base of their skulls.

I spoke about very evident birthmarks on LF and MW breasts. As also, don't forget, that these women are both left handers.

S>Sigh. Here I go trying to convince you again...

"Convincing process is the best mode to get the life pleasure" - Don Cascarelli

Hint: You can try to compare b/w contrasted pictures of both women - you'll get the same face in both cases. Me - I can't do it for illustration of my words, because "Windows Paintbrush" is not the best mode to do that.

OM>If you accept the fact that this photo is from New Orleans, then there is NO WAY that this is Lolo Ferrari. Lolo was deathly afraid of flying, she never came to America. She hardly ever even left France.

You are right. She really was deathly afraid of flying (and not only because of her implants), but she travelled a lot by plane. For example - in England and in Russia (AFAIKit). For England trip she could use Eurotunnel, but she prefered the plane. The same was for NO.  And she travelled a lot across the Western Europe - BRD, Benelux, Spain, Italy. I really don't know, why you think that she "hardly ever even left France".

You see, this is one of many myths about LF life. French people like them a lot. For example - she liked a lot sport-cars, but she was afraid to drive very fast. People told that it was because she was afraid that her breasts could rip because of very high speed. There are a lot of stories about her of this kind.

G>They all have that certain look about them.

Interesting. There you took this picture ? Or it's another one morph ? Or just an illustration to the fact that many women can have the same style of make up ?

 
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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2003, 06:33:31 PM »

I salute the Minister of Misinformation.
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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2003, 06:54:48 PM »

 
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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2003, 07:05:23 PM »

By george sheber I think you've hit on something there.
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2003, 08:02:33 PM »

Shadow, why do you think she is left handed? There is no reference indicating whether the photos were flipped horizontally.

http://forum.bearchive.com/files/94439-flipped.JPG
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2003, 10:02:54 PM »

Umm ... so ... to answer the original question, are there other suspects, like Mistress Rhiannon or Raven de la Croix?  Because if this women is indeed alive (as conspicuously compared to Lolo), I wouldn't mind ordering some customized work from her ...
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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2003, 01:36:11 AM »

It certainly doesn't look like Raven de la Croix. I have her on tape somewhere, from a big bust contest. Hafta dig it up sometime.  
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2003, 08:51:15 AM »

definitely not rhiannon either.  these pics came out long before rhiannon hit the scene or got her humungo-size knockers.  
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« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2003, 06:04:38 PM »

S> I salute the Minister of Misinformation.

You want say that this morphed (photo manipulated) picture posted by Goober can prove something in our discussion ? The woman, having face skeleton constitution (bones morphology)like this simply can't live.

To Goober: Still joking ? Or what ? I think that there are some other objects worth of it.

OM>By george sheber I think you've hit on something there.
shadowcom is Baghdad Bob - The Iraqi Info Minister Mohamed Saeed Al-Sahhaf.

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Scot>Shadow, why do you think she is left handed? There is no reference indicating whether the photos were flipped horizontally.

I used original pictures posted here in 1997-1998 from my collection. As for left hand - check closely her hands and you'll see it yourself. As for horizontal flip - I specially did it myself (I indicated it in the bottom of picture) to compare the picture of MW with one of LF.
 
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« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2003, 08:36:41 PM »

> Shadow: I used original pictures posted here in 1997-1998 from my collection.

Maybe the "original" wasn't from the person who actually took the photo. Your "original" may have come from a newsgroup which came from a forum which came from an email which...

Since there's no text in the photo, you can't tell by inspection if the photo was flipped. Only if YOU took the photo could you know this.

> As for left hand - check closely her hands and you'll see it yourself.

"It"? What am I supposed to see? Please be specific. I mean, do left handed people instinctively place their dominant hand on top of a plastic bag while riding in convertibles in New Orleans Marti-Gras parades?
   
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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2003, 04:01:08 AM »

Scot>Maybe the "original" wasn't from the person who actually took the photo.

I don't take into consideration all "maybe" - it's not even a question to discuss -"maybe", "may", "possible", "perhaps", etc. If you have exact graphic materials - you should work with them without any "maybe".

>Your "original" may have come from a newsgroup which came from a forum which came from an email which...

Not mine. These pictures were posted here (at BEA) by someone, who personnaly did them - this person spoke about this. But I wrote about it - check closely my previous posts.

>Since there's no text in the photo, you can't tell by inspection if the photo was flipped.

I don't understand the reason of this ... sentence. I can compare two pictures and to see the differences among pictured highly detailed objects. And I can say if one picture was fliped. Certainly, I can't say, what exact picture was fliped - but it's not a question in our case.

>Only if YOU took the photo could you know this.

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>"It"? What am I supposed to see? Please be specific. I mean, do left handed people instinctively place their dominant hand on top of a plastic bag while riding in convertibles in New Orleans Marti-Gras parades?

  "...instinctively place their dominant hand on top..."

Right handers usually place their left hand on top ("hand-shield position") and right hand under left hand ("attacking hand position"). The situation is inverse for left-handers - right hand is on top. However, there are some other small traces on the pictures, manifesting that this woman is left-hander.
For example, the skin of "active hand" (in our case - of left hand) is always less degradated, than the skin of "passive hand". Certainly, it's manifested by more considerable varicose veins phlebetis presence on right hand on the picture.
However, there are some other signs, that MW is left-hander.
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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2003, 12:19:23 PM »

There must be a language barrier at work here. This is a waste of time.  
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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2003, 05:50:37 PM »

The first (and last) time I ever saw pictures of this woman were in one of the updates of the R&D newsletter, quite some time ago. At least as far back as 1998. If I check my R&B archive I could pinpoint it more exactly. But as far as I know, that woman is neither Lolo Ferrari, nor is she Raven de la Croix.

And, you guys should lay off shadowcom...he is speaking in what, to him, is a foreign language (English) and as such may have problems expressing himself clearly. Please cut him some slack. This goes for all of our posters who speak or write English as a second (or third or even fourth in some cases) language.
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