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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #405 on: February 26, 2012, 03:44:53 AM »
not sure i get the 'better safe than sorry' sentiment.

if i found out i was playing a game along side someone who was of a gender other than their game character?
I'd... really just completely not care.
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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #406 on: February 27, 2012, 12:04:38 AM »
not sure i get the 'better safe than sorry' sentiment.

if i found out i was playing a game along side someone who was of a gender other than their game character?
I'd... really just completely not care.

I guess that needs some background. Some people take it way beyond just role play on a game. People have gone to meet this 'girl' they met through an online game only to be surprised. That sort of thing.


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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #407 on: February 27, 2012, 05:26:06 PM »
I guess that needs some background. Some people take it way beyond just role play on a game. People have gone to meet this 'girl' they met through an online game only to be surprised. That sort of thing.

ahhh, I see. That's a bit different. That's pretty uncool.
to quote risky business "...you gotta get what you wanted in the first place. Know what I mean? When you buy a TV, you don't buy Sony if you want RCA."
still, I'd tend to think that's about a 1 in 1,000,000 event.

In most cases, it seems as though the ire towards people playing games in a gender they physically aren't.. is based on "viewing all opposite-sex players as sex objects", coupled with deeply engrained homophobic fears.

The former part being a good argument for a girl to play as a male character to avoid objectification. I know many girls who play as boy characters to avoid the sex object, and/or chauvanist crap.

Personally, I'd rather just ignore some of the male attention, and play a role that I can 'get into' more. And as other's have pointed out, some of the male attention is more positive.
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I'm into both Real Life and Fantasy BE, and Sexual Exaggeration in general (among many other things).
I have somewhat exotic body modding plans for myself for RL ;)
I do the 'Bad Kitty' morphs, here and elsewhere.
(I'm not a huge "morph-request" person, I spend a loooong time on them, and I do them primarily for my own enjoyment. Its hard enough to find time to do all the morphs i want to do)

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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #408 on: February 27, 2012, 08:35:22 PM »
ahhh, I see. That's a bit different. That's pretty uncool.
to quote risky business "...you gotta get what you wanted in the first place. Know what I mean? When you buy a TV, you don't buy Sony if you want RCA."
still, I'd tend to think that's about a 1 in 1,000,000 event.

Now, maybe so. Back when there were very few women on the intertubes... today not so much. It actually seemed to be entertainment to some to see how far they could fool someone.  I guess now a days the impersonation for fun and/or profit is probably in the online dating and mail-order bride areas ;)

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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #409 on: February 27, 2012, 10:15:58 PM »
Now, maybe so. Back when there were very few women on the intertubes... today not so much. It actually seemed to be entertainment to some to see how far they could fool someone.  I guess now a days the impersonation for fun and/or profit is probably in the online dating and mail-order bride areas ;)

well, anyone of any gender could lead someone on falsely.
I don't think that's an issue restricted to cross-gender game playing.
so if you want to say that deliberately leading people on under false pretenses of any kind on the internet is bad... i'm there with ya. I don't see any reason to zero in on someone gender bending in a game specifically though. what you're describing is no different than when you can pay $10,000 to the bank of nigeria to unlock an account worth $200,000... heh. defrauding people is bad mmkay, i don't dispute that.

but that's simply unrelated to 99.99999% of opposite gender game playing.

so relating what you describe, to people who are just playing opposite gender characters, is like saying "driving is bad, because some people use driving in the commission of of crimes". It the same logic error, just a more obvious example of it's erroneous mechanism.

personally, i kinda prefer to date men who can rp a girl character. it's like a litmus test, to prove that they're not too 'macho' and self conscious to be an interesting person. likewise girls, it's generally a good sign as to the breadth and depth of their personality as a human being, if they can pull off a male character.
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I have somewhat exotic body modding plans for myself for RL ;)
I do the 'Bad Kitty' morphs, here and elsewhere.
(I'm not a huge "morph-request" person, I spend a loooong time on them, and I do them primarily for my own enjoyment. Its hard enough to find time to do all the morphs i want to do)

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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #410 on: February 28, 2012, 01:26:14 AM »
Isn't that about 98% of the women one meets in Second Life (and porn forums too for that matter)? ;)

Just check my signature ,hehe. I am very, very skeptic and for me anyone in the net is a guy unless the contrary is proven buuut thet doesn't mean that I am paranoid. I've learnt not to care about a person real sex (in other words: you don't need to try hard if you are pretending to be someone else  for me, lol). After all internet is just for fun. Real life is worrisome enough to, besides that, worry about the net life as well (I don't get how, stubbornly, some of my net friends only chat to 'real women' even though it is easy to fool a horny guy, or maybe it was just easy to fool me in the past xDDD).

Now, who is a real female on the net?, many claim to be, and definitely not all are, even less so in porn/porn related sites. The girls who post in 'porn places' are either guys (of course my horse, it doesn't require an 'Einstein' to see that) or girls who have some business (adult entertainers, web models, porn actresses), and even some of those those pay some guys (like webmasters or managers) to post for them (often as the models themselves), in their websites or boards like this (for free publicity often, hehe, as if you didn't know). Of course there are exceptions, they are very few and sparse :( but luckily we have a nice amount of exceptions here at the bea, including some regulars who are not in the adult industry.

Somehow being a female online is very 'prestigious' and indeed helpful. My comment of girls getting more help points in that direction, and considering how males online are quite often often ignored, pretending being a female is a good deal in the mind of a pretender. Males usually find it funny when they are mistaken for females, or at least my friends tell me so. But when you mistake a 'female' for a male, many of such 'females' get angry (that always turns on my 'impostor' alert  lol even if they are real females,  but I just see no reason to get angry for that and from my point of view that demonstrates insecurity).

Many guys (thinking that they are clever) request for some evidence to demonstrate that a female online is a female in real life. Many guys just request pics, I find it a waste of time and also demonstrate that as requesters they are not as clever as they think. Impostors/female pretenders can be quite crafty when playing a girl.

Anyhow I find that there are several 'levels' in which the pretenders work.

-Level 0: they show off pics of famous pornstars or models, that's a serious lack of imagination and craftsmanship. lol. They are easy to unveil.
-Level 1: I have met a couple of guys who pretended being girls and after some time they revealed they are guys in real life and used pics of their girlfriends, wives, classmates, workmates, local models...in other words less widely known females. Way to many guys fall for this one.
-Level 2: Maybe related to the previous one. The pretenders show off pics of a girl holding a piece of paper/message or posing in certain position asjked by the requester. Interesting enough those pics usually show up days after the request was made (with the cellphones, webcams and other gadgets that should be immediate), maybe because the pretender must get permission from his female friends to fulfill the request. However one note of caution, if the requester gets the pic immediately, there is a chance that you could be indeed chatting to a female or to a guy with a very collaborative girlfriend (and those do exist, some girls are incredibly open and permissive). Many (most?) guys usually fall from this level on.
-Level 3: live voice chat, no video. There is plenty of sound editing software around the net, getting a guy sound like a female is easy if you know how the software works.
-Level 4: Video. A girlfriend or workmate can be recorded and the video used in any moment to prove most people that the pretender is a female. As it isn't live, the pretender may use it or a collection of videos over and over again. The more videos the less likely a pretender will be discovered.
-Level 5: Live video chat. Okay in this stage one should better give up skepticism at this point, however, how do you know that it isn't a guy's significant other playing along with him for a moment. This applies for the occasional/once in a lifetime videochat, of course if the live videochat is regular, then I'd see no reason to be skeptic anymore lol.

I'm not saying that every female in the net is a guy, I am just advising skepticsm to avoid being disappointed in some moment. Just like me, stop asking/requesting enjoy the ride or avoid it. When we are horny we think we are clever, but we are not.

Sorry if i went too offtopic, I just needed to write this down. Also I hope no one takes this personal I was just writing down my thoughts.
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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #411 on: February 28, 2012, 08:12:49 AM »
I still laugh every time I read your signature Djoser cause in the wide spread of things yes, it is a very true statement. I personally have had girls that I have know say odd things which made me wonder, but in the long run it is called Second Life for a reason. I too have had friends come out and reveal themselves that they were male some even put it in their profile, but I still treat them as I always have. No way would I excommunicate anyone because of what they do in the game. That would be just plane rude.

So do I think every female in SL is really female in real life..... No. Do I care no just like the furries I don't see anthromorphic humanoids running around although that would be cool to see :P

Ok we are getting slightly off topic let's get back to the real reason this thread was started.

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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #412 on: February 28, 2012, 08:56:35 PM »
personally, i kinda prefer to date men who can rp a girl character. it's like a litmus test, to prove that they're not too 'macho' and self conscious to be an interesting person. likewise girls, it's generally a good sign as to the breadth and depth of their personality as a human being, if they can pull off a male character.

I've done it with the intent to do it convincingly for the sake of doing so. Got to keep a lot of stuff vague and let people's own imaginations do the work :) Of course some of the knowledge that one finds in places like this tended to make it more convincing. It's actual women that are most difficult to pull off the role play convincingly with. Guys are easy. Just ignore their advances and offers :). I think I was largely successful in doing so. I could interact with the same people as my regular character and my female character and they couldn't tell. Even people I knew in real life, including a then gf.

On Djoser's post, there's lots of really poorly done ones out there. Photos of models we all know here. Same thing with online dating sites. Tineye is useful for detecting the ones that aren't so well known.

BTW, I've never asked anyone to prove they are female irl. I'll figure it out from interaction and I've not been wrong to my knowledge thus far. "proven" to me is always through interaction.


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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #413 on: February 29, 2012, 11:33:22 AM »
I still laugh every time I read your signature Djoser cause in the wide spread of things yes, it is a very true statement. I personally have had girls that I have know say odd things which made me wonder, but in the long run it is called Second Life for a reason. I too have had friends come out and reveal themselves that they were male some even put it in their profile, but I still treat them as I always have. No way would I excommunicate anyone because of what they do in the game. That would be just plane rude.


I think the same, why would i treat someone different? the person is the same even if the character isn't. For me internet is like a huge play where one is a character, one decides if that character is one irl or not, if people plays nice that's all i care about. Sadly sometimes the people that is discovered of being pretending become to embarrassed and abandon their 'girl accounts'.

Just as a warning, i think i was somewhat **92** when i wrote my previous post. Still I don't care about a person rl sex, but I am skeptic of everything and I will always be, and i don't see it bad either, science has advanced because some people was skeptic.
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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #414 on: March 01, 2012, 02:58:51 AM »
You guys put way more thought into this than I ever have. But then I'm bi, so arguably the issue of caring about someone's gender online, may just be going right over my head. I can't help thinking though, that focusing on it to such an in depth degree is "strange".



Personally, both online, and in my daily life, I'm guilty of pretending to be a semi-normal human female. When in actuality I'm rather very abnormal, along several different axis that one might use to quantify a sentient being. But you know, when in rome... act like the other tailless monkeys.

But that's not really an "act" exactly, there's no active misdirection, just selective omission.




back onto the topic :)

Regarding the marble background pic, and some of the other pics I've seen. Are all of the larger boobs so... "globe-like"? I kinda like a more plausibly natural look myself. Is that possible?

Also, I find the idea of putting really large boobs on my avatar a little awkward. It's akin to some of the same ill defined elusive thought processes that made me reluctant to do a morph of myself in my morph thread. I'm game to tinker around though. And I think it would just be fun to observe how BE RP in SL plays out :)

mainly so far, I'm just enjoying all the dance music :)
(also, i haven't had a chance to log into SL in like a week. i'll try to change that so there can be some socializin' :) )
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I'm into both Real Life and Fantasy BE, and Sexual Exaggeration in general (among many other things).
I have somewhat exotic body modding plans for myself for RL ;)
I do the 'Bad Kitty' morphs, here and elsewhere.
(I'm not a huge "morph-request" person, I spend a loooong time on them, and I do them primarily for my own enjoyment. Its hard enough to find time to do all the morphs i want to do)

Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #415 on: March 01, 2012, 05:52:04 AM »
Regarding the marble background pic, and some of the other pics I've seen. Are all of the larger boobs so... "globe-like"? I kinda like a more plausibly natural look myself. Is that possible?

No, not all of them. Lolas are, IMHO, the best for a natural look, though they can't be cranked up to as outrageous size as others can. I personally love the Foxbean Laboratories "Nadine" breasts--if only the "torpedoes" set had a clothing layer! Even the clothed ones, though, aren't as globe-like as many, and if you read back through this thread, others have said they are good for a more natural look.

I'll attach a photo I took that I think shows Lolas off to really good advantage, so you can get an idea...

Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #416 on: March 01, 2012, 07:50:56 AM »
As Melissa said no not all look like overfilled beach balls. That is just the look I enjoy. Yes Lolas in my opinion are best for a natural look but also there is the essentials brand that just came out.
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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #417 on: March 01, 2012, 11:07:52 AM »
Personally, I change tops depending on the look I'm going for.  E-Corps Nats (not nat-overfilled) are my preference for day to day and casual.  I also have E-Corps Anime Overfilled for when I'm doing (gasp) and anime cosplay.  Alternatively, I also have v-strings when I'm going for that silicon, overstuffed, bimbo look.
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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #418 on: March 02, 2012, 02:11:54 PM »
As Melissa said no not all look like overfilled beach balls.

Aww too bad, gravity defying look is quite awesome  :P
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Re: Second Life state of the art in breasts
« Reply #419 on: March 03, 2012, 09:08:49 PM »
I've been around the intertubes since 1989. Yes folks, way before the web. I remember reading Danni Ashe posts on usenet. Yes, once upon a time alt.sex.* were real discussion groups. Hard to believe now. On MUDs female characters would get lots of help too. It's always been that way.  Assume male until proven otherwise is still a prudent way to go IMO. Sure it's not like the old days, but better safe than sorry :)




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