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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #6930 on: June 23, 2018, 03:22:43 AM »
"It's about the ch#&@ren, it's about basic human rights!'

The Associated Press published a story on Thursday about alleged abuse of **09** immigrants that buried the fact that the abuse began during the Obama administration.

The AP story focuses on court filings from Latino teens who allege that they were abused while being held in an immigration detention facility. The allegations are horrific, with one young immigrant claiming, “Whenever they used to restrain me and put me in the chair, they would handcuff me … They have total control over you. They also put a bag over your head. It has little holes; you can see through it. But you feel suffocated with the bag on.”

The article mentions President Donald Trump and his administration’s zero-tolerance policy at least four times in the first ten paragraphs, leaving the implicit suggestion that the Trump administration is responsible for the alleged abuse.

It is only when the reader gets to the 20th paragraph of the story that they discover the allegations stem back to at least 2016 — during President Obama’s administration.

Nevertheless, the article declines to ever even mention Obama’s name.

Now if president Trump is a uncaring, racist monster, what does that make Obama?



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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #6931 on: June 23, 2018, 03:44:37 AM »
Obama is no longer the president of the United States. He no longer has the ability to tear apart families who are simply trying to get a better life, start stupid and pointless trade wars that no one will win, destroy international alliances that have lasted for decades, degrade the basic civility of social discourse, or ruin America's reputation as the country every other one aspires to be like.

Obama cannot hurt you anymore. Stop worrying about him.
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chorizo

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #6932 on: June 23, 2018, 04:56:55 AM »

May god have mercy on the souls of the people responsible for this policy - if they have souls.


Your words, remember?

Must be nice to decide the date when to get outraged and who gets the blame.

This whole border immigration flap started on a narrative of mistreatment at detention centers under Trump, but the photo was taken in 2014. Trump was sworn in Jan 20, 2017.  Facts... who needs 'em.

Liberal Handbook Rule 101: Obama gets a free pass forever. Period.

Oh and the "Obama cannot hurt you anymore. Stop worrying about him."

Just switch "Obama" with "George W. and we can all forget the nonsense of he inherited an unpopular war and disastrous economy during his 8 years. You know because Bush wasn't President, he cannot hurt you anymore.

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3deroticer

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #6933 on: June 23, 2018, 05:41:47 AM »
Have you forgotten how govt works? When Obama was in office in his last term he had a republican majority house of congress, which for the most part override the presidential power, so every time you blame Obama for the most part you would also have to include whoever had the most power at the time, ( the Republican majority house of congress)

As for the fact, No! Obama didn't have a policy of separating children from the parents when unnecessarily (neither did GWBush), only when they came unaccompanied of their family, and when nearest family was found they get to pick them up, as soon as possible. They try to protect the children from illegal smuggler which have found to be dangerous most of the time. Huge portion of the women come over get to be sexually abuse. The problem of immigration been there for a long time, and nothing could get done because as we found out that there is a stalemate between the GOP wanting to punish the immigrant vs the Democrat that are trying to help them. Corporation wanted to take advantage of the immigrant willing to work for low wages as long as they felt to be hunted by authority.
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andrat2000

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #6934 on: June 23, 2018, 06:58:22 AM »
"It's about the ch#&@ren, it's about basic human rights!'

The Associated Press published a story on Thursday about alleged abuse of **09** immigrants that buried the fact that the abuse began during the Obama administration.

The AP story focuses on court filings from Latino teens who allege that they were abused while being held in an immigration detention facility. The allegations are horrific, with one young immigrant claiming, “Whenever they used to restrain me and put me in the chair, they would handcuff me … They have total control over you. They also put a bag over your head. It has little holes; you can see through it. But you feel suffocated with the bag on.”

The article mentions President Donald Trump and his administration’s zero-tolerance policy at least four times in the first ten paragraphs, leaving the implicit suggestion that the Trump administration is responsible for the alleged abuse.

It is only when the reader gets to the 20th paragraph of the story that they discover the allegations stem back to at least 2016 — during President Obama’s administration.

Nevertheless, the article declines to ever even mention Obama’s name.

Now if president Trump is a uncaring, racist monster, what does that make Obama?

The ICE or whoever did this to the immigrant childs in 2016 certainly did false and wrong. The persons behind this should be taken into responsibility, presented to court and get into jail. Obama and his administration should be made responsible that they didn't do enough checks and controls of their ICE to get aware of this cases and take these people in responsibility.

I only, ...  I only one time want to hear from right persons like StrikezOne, chorizo or pendejo a similar comment about Trumpelstilsken. Only one time! It won't happen. So failed the German right oriented people saying something against Hitler. And the German far right wing extremist Nazi terrorist idiot people even nowadays fail to say anything against Hitler, they think he made everything correct, they only hail him!

But Trumpelstilsken, Sessions and that blond Eva Braun from Homeland-Security even demanded and ordered to do this with the children to blackmail politicians to agree to their terms and the Mexican wall etc.

While Obama is responsible of missing checks, Trumpelstilsken is directly responsible like Nazis were and should directly go to Den Haag and into jail!

That is the difference and if you can't see this difference and agree to it, you are waisting precious time of civilized society board members.

It is repulsive!
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andrat2000

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #6935 on: June 23, 2018, 07:13:19 AM »

May god have mercy on the souls of the people responsible for this policy - if they have souls.


Your words, remember?

Must be nice to decide the date when to get outraged and who gets the blame.

This whole border immigration flap started on a narrative of mistreatment at detention centers under Trump, but the photo was taken in 2014. Trump was sworn in Jan 20, 2017.  Facts... who needs 'em.

Liberal Handbook Rule 101: Obama gets a free pass forever. Period.

Oh and the "Obama cannot hurt you anymore. Stop worrying about him."

Just switch "Obama" with "George W. and we can all forget the nonsense of he inherited an unpopular war and disastrous economy during his 8 years. You know because Bush wasn't President, he cannot hurt you anymore.

So you remember when Obama at the very beginning wanted to end the practise and the facility in guantanamo? Who stopped him and worked against him doing this? Who forced him to retreat from his positions? Obama's plan was leaked and Frank Wolf and the rest of the republicans started a campaign against it, then even Harry Reid ...
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/01/why-obama-has-failed-to-close-guantanamo

So compare this with above situation of Trumpelstilsken with immigrant childrens. You see a difference in acting?

It is repulsive!
« Last Edit: June 23, 2018, 07:23:54 AM by andrat2000 »

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #6936 on: Today at 04:41:22 PM »
To be able to continue produce motorcycles for the European market for lower prices without tarrif Harley-Davidson is now shifting production to outside US. And creating production capacities outside the US requires 18 months. In the meantime Harley Davidson will cover the tarrif themselves ...

Obviously Trumpelstilsken, his goons and his idiot voters are idiots and dumb or they would have understood that this won't really work.

Btw. except Volkswagen German car manufacturer like BMW or Mercedes already produce cars in the US, also for export. Which means if Trump starts with tarrif for German cars it will have less effect and even worse, maybe tarrif will be added to German cars produced in the US and exported to other countries ...
Maybe the German car manufacturer do the same like Harley Davidson ... I guess they will just shift to Europe again ...

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3deroticer

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #6937 on: Today at 05:10:32 PM »
I am not seeing any sign of a impeachment, and so if they are going to keep digging in their hole to keep this guy, then I think we are going to see a huge depression, and this will be use to blame the immigrants problem. It's never going to be Trump's fault, and they will never say they are sorry. The potential for shit getting real! Time to be a Mormon and look for those underground shelter! Well...........might be over reacting........or am I?
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