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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2014, 04:52:36 PM »
I do not really think that was Christy Canyon to begin with.

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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2014, 12:20:26 AM »
I do not really think that was Christy Canyon to begin with.

That's my first impression too... she looks like a late-model Christy, and maybe she is, but I'm not yet sure. Glad this thread is popular regardless. Here's another fine pair, showing that sometimes, it's nature and not nurture that gets most of the credit. ;)

As always, I've got no proof they're related... it just seems possible.

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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2014, 01:17:59 AM »
The genetic side of things is very interesting.
Given the way that the controlling genes are distributed the potential similarity between mother and daughter can be wide ranging. However with female offspring you can see physical similarity anywhere from an uncanny 100% down to about 50%. This all has to do with how the egg and sperm share chromosomes after fertilization.

Eggs do not start out having 23 chromosomes like sperm, depending on the efficiency and sequence of the oogenesis (egg cell formation) it is actually possible to have 23 to 46 at fertilization.* The reluctance of the egg to integrate the genetic contribution from the sperm is tied closely to the "quality" of the egg's formation. Too damaged or malfunctioning and the whole process tends to self abort (and often does). So an egg can can technically be fertilized and produce offspring with a range of chromosomes from the sperm. The process of forming these cells, fertilization and early cell division is a very sloppy affair.

This means that an offspring can be much closer to a clone of the mother and given that gender is only set by one chromosome carried by the sperm the chances that you will have a lookalike daughter is higher.

What this means for the BEA is that a daughter will never genetically be bigger or smaller than a 50% contribution from the father's side and due to the proclivities of the egg will tend toward the mother - thus the resulting rule-of-thumb that a daughter will inherit her mom's boobs.

In many ways the sperm is a zygote forming "trigger" event that ends up providing between 0% to 50% of the genetic content. And it should be pointed out that the sperm can also be malformed and arrive with an atypical number of chromosomes just like the egg but typically not as wide a range.

* Yes it is possible to have an egg released with all 46 chromosomes present I was surprised too.
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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2014, 05:24:51 AM »
The genetic side of things is very interesting.
Given the way that the controlling genes are distributed the potential similarity between mother and daughter can be wide ranging. However with female offspring you can see physical similarity anywhere from an uncanny 100% down to about 50%. This all has to do with how the egg and sperm share chromosomes after fertilization.

Eggs do not start out having 23 chromosomes like sperm, depending on the efficiency and sequence of the oogenesis (egg cell formation) it is actually possible to have 23 to 46 at fertilization.* The reluctance of the egg to integrate the genetic contribution from the sperm is tied closely to the "quality" of the egg's formation. Too damaged or malfunctioning and the whole process tends to self abort (and often does). So an egg can can technically be fertilized and produce offspring with a range of chromosomes from the sperm. The process of forming these cells, fertilization and early cell division is a very sloppy affair.

This means that an offspring can be much closer to a clone of the mother and given that gender is only set by one chromosome carried by the sperm the chances that you will have a lookalike daughter is higher.

What this means for the BEA is that a daughter will never genetically be bigger or smaller than a 50% contribution from the father's side and due to the proclivities of the egg will tend toward the mother - thus the resulting rule-of-thumb that a daughter will inherit her mom's boobs.

In many ways the sperm is a zygote forming "trigger" event that ends up providing between 0% to 50% of the genetic content. And it should be pointed out that the sperm can also be malformed and arrive with an atypical number of chromosomes just like the egg but typically not as wide a range.

* Yes it is possible to have an egg released with all 46 chromosomes present I was surprised too.
My understanding is that trisomy resulting from an abnormal of chromosomes present in either the sperm or egg does not result in a baby that can be carried to term, let alone survive infancy, 99.99% of the time. There's only ~3 chromosomes where their trisomy is long-lasting enough to have a name. Plus, if the egg somehow contributes 2 copies of a chromosome, it's not like the sperm just abandons the copy it brought to the table. Also, it seems that the main estrogen receptor is located on chromosome 6, the trisomy of which won't carry to term.

I'm not sure where you get the 100% similarity thing from.

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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2014, 06:06:34 PM »

I did not know Christy Canyon had a daughter. Looks like Christy Canyon's daughter did not get the booby gene from her mom. What a shame.  :(
I'm sure the woman with Christy is pornstar Teanna Trump.The picture goes to her twitter.

Mod edit: duly noted and thanks tdotter for lending this some of your IDQ credibility! :) -Pal
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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2014, 05:04:35 AM »
Big tits is the mother and small tits is the daughter.
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« Last Edit: August 08, 2014, 06:07:05 AM by tdotter »

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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2014, 05:30:49 AM »
It'd be nice if you could denote who is the mother and who is the daughter in all these photos, because in most of the cases (especially in the last photo) it is really really hard to tell.
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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2014, 12:45:37 PM »
Big tits is the mother and small tits is the daughter.
Happy?

Yes, this picture makes me very happy.

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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2014, 12:53:19 PM »
My understanding is that trisomy resulting from an abnormal of chromosomes present in either the sperm or egg does not result in a baby that can be carried to term, let alone survive infancy, 99.99% of the time. There's only ~3 chromosomes where their trisomy is long-lasting enough to have a name. Plus, if the egg somehow contributes 2 copies of a chromosome, it's not like the sperm just abandons the copy it brought to the table. Also, it seems that the main estrogen receptor is located on chromosome 6, the trisomy of which won't carry to term.

I'm not sure where you get the 100% similarity thing from.

Well, I was of the same opinion too - it simply did not follow textbook mitosis and the gamete formation. What I did not realize is that egg formation is a much more involved process having a series of cell division and chromosomal shedding via orbital body formation.

What I did not realize was that there were two different processes being described. One was the by-the-book process of creating these cells then the ideal combination of two gametes each with 23 chromosomes into a zygote with 46 that could then from a genetic standpoint be a 50% mix of the parents that could then go to term.

The second situation was where the egg's formation is not perfectly by the book and the sequence of division and shedding of chromosomal material is either not complete or fertilization happens but the formation of the orbital body does not occur properly.

Put basically the egg "selects" to complete and match up its 23 chromosomes upon the "trigger" event of fertilization however at that moment it is possible that previous orbital bodies or the formation of the orbital "house cleaning" body after fertilization can exclude contributions from the sperm.

The reason for my continued confusion was that the texts were not stipulating the possible ways that a zygote ends up with the normal 46 chromosomes. Yes, if you do not end up with 46 you are going to have major problems.

For example I did not know about the post-fertilization formation of an orbital body that is then dumped from the zygote. This orbital body can contain a range of genetic material that then disintegrates. Orbital bodies are used in making a 46 chromosome egg cell into a 23 chromosome gamete egg. It is totally possible for the post-fertilization orbital body to capture nearly all or nearly none of the male's chromosomes and dumping them from the zygote.

This is all before the first zygote cell division and is in the period between fertilization and cell division when all this house cleaning is happening. It is this house cleaning that gets most zygotes back to 46 chromosomes either by adding or subtracting chromosomal material from the soup that is present post-fertilization.

Yes, typically the ratios are closer to 50% from each parent but the thing that was a total shock was that an egg could be released with still 46 chromosomes and could get fertilized by a malformed sperm and for a brief moment could have in excess of 69 chromosomes. Yet, it is possible for such a union to still end up with a 46 chromosome zygote if the house cleaning mechanisms function. The ratio in this situation would be about 2/3 mom and 1/3 dad or 33% dad.

To clarify (because it confused me too) we are not talking about an individual that has more than 46 chromosomes but rather the egg's ability to include or exclude a range of genetic contribution from the father because there may be extra maternal strands already in the egg or the egg may dump more of the male's in the subsequent orbital body formation.

Thus you can get an offspring that is genetically more like the mother and never more than about 50% of the father.

Bottom line is that things are never exactly like the book.
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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2014, 02:13:53 PM »
Great!  Please, more photos!

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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2014, 03:56:30 PM »
 ;D

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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2014, 04:53:47 PM »
I think we've seen this one before, but they both score so high on the cute meter, that it's worth posting again. ;)

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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2014, 05:28:32 PM »
 :)

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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2014, 12:42:23 AM »
I believe this is also with her mum. Looks like some boob genes come from her dad.

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Re: Mother daughter pix
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2014, 01:12:25 AM »
I believe this is also with her mum. Looks like some boob genes come from her dad.

That's not her mom.  Trust me.  Her mom is in the pic I posted just above yours.

Pal says: I may be mistaken, but facially, the two moms you're referring to look an awful lot alike to me. :)
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