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Las Vegas
« on: October 02, 2017, 12:49:21 PM »
Sad news about the shooting in Las Vegas.  I hope George is ok?
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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2017, 12:53:04 PM »
I'm fine. I'm here in Canada visiting family and I just found out about it. I work at the Luxor which is the pyramid across the boulevard.

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2017, 02:05:40 PM »
I'm fine. I'm here in Canada visiting family and I just found out about it. I work at the Luxor which is the pyramid across the boulevard.
Glad you are okay - I bet your colleagues are super busy at the moment.
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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2017, 10:58:52 PM »
I'm fine.
So glad you checked in.  Thought of you when this all went down.

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2017, 12:50:21 AM »
While the number of dead and wounded is going to keep rising, I note that the corresponding numbers for US forces from the initial attack in the Second Battle of Falujah (54 killed and 425 wounded) has already been surpassed.

One has to wonder if it will be "time to talk about guns and gun control" before the next mass shooting comes along. Esquire's Charles P. Pierce has essentially given up:

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Better that one Stephen Paddock go free than a hundred law-abiding gun owners wait a week before buying an Uzi. This is a vision of the nation that has been sold to us by a generation of politicians who talk brave and act gutless, and by the carny shills in the employ of the industries of death. Better that one Stephen Paddock go free than a hundred law-abiding gun owners wait a week before buying an Uzi. We are all walking blood sacrifices waiting to happen.

Disgust isn’t enough.

Sorrow isn’t enough.

Nothing is enough because, if Newtown wasn’t enough, then how can Las Vegas be enough? And if Las Vegas isn’t enough, then how can anything be enough?

God help us all.

"If Newtown Wasn't Enough, Why Would Las Vegas Be Enough?" 10/2/17

And the best government Twitter response so far comes from Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT):

Gov. Matt Bevin (KY): "To all those political opportunists who are seizing on the tragedy in Las Vegas to call for more gun regs....You can't regulate evil."

Sen Murphy: "I await your proposal to rescind Kentucky's laws banning assault, murder and arson. One of government's core functions is to regulate evil."
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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2017, 02:40:30 AM »
One has to wonder if it will be "time to talk about guns and gun control" before the next mass shooting comes along. Esquire's Charles P. Pierce has essentially given up:

Didnt take long for you to make it political.

Why dont people ask about the kind of medications the shooter(s) was on before talking about guns? Why dont people ask about the kind of medications the shooter(s) was on at all?

Also this is strange:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-attack-warning-eyewitness-what-happened-latest-news-updates-a7978821.html

And f*** Hayley Geftman-Gold. Who said she was "not even sympathetic." She said "country music fans are often Republican." Disgusting.
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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2017, 06:06:43 AM »
"I’ve been a proponent of the 2nd amendment my entire life.

Until the events of last night. I cannot express how wrong I was. We actually have members of our crew with CHL licenses, and legal firearms on the bus.

They were useless.

We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think that we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group (or one man) laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of fire power.

Enough is enough.

Writing my parents and the love of my life a goodbye note last night and a living will because I felt like I wasn’t going to live through the night was enough for me to realize that this is completely and totally out of hand. There rounds were powerful enough that my crew guys just standing in close proximity of a victim shot by this fucking coward received shrapnel wounds.

We need gun control RIGHT. NOW.

My biggest regret is that I stubbornly didn’t realize it until my brothers on the road and myself were threatened by it.

We are unbelievably fortunate to not be among the victims killed or seriously wounded by this maniac."

-- guitarist Caleb Keeter of the Josh Abbott Band, one of the acts that played at the country music festival in Las Vegas where 58 people were killed and another 500 were injured
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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2017, 06:15:20 AM »

One has to wonder if it will be "time to talk about guns and gun control" before the next mass shooting comes along. Esquire's Charles P. Pierce has essentially given up:

Sadly, he has good reason for such cynicism. As Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson's latest column says:

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"The carnage will continue"

We will never know why. We already know how, but we don’t care about that. And we know, beyond the slightest doubt, that it will happen again.

There can be no rational motive for mass murder, which means that asking why [the mass murderer] turned the Las Vegas Strip into a killing zone is ultimately a futile exercise. He may have had nominal or imagined reasons for his homicidal anger. But nothing can really explain the decision to spray thousands of concert-goers with automatic weapons fire, killing at least 59 and injuring hundreds more.

The attack wasn’t terrorism, authorities quickly said, as if this assessment somehow lessened the horror. Would someone please explain to me how that works? Are friends and family members of the dead supposed to feel one way if the murderer yells “God is great” in Arabic, and another way if he doesn’t? What if the killer were to say those same words in English?

Investigators and reporters will now sift through [the murderer]’s life for signs of chronic mental illness or sudden psychological deterioration. But what will that search tell us except the obvious? Of course [the mass murderer] was disturbed. Who in his right mind mows down innocent strangers at a country music festival?

But of the many people who are not in their right minds, which ones are violent enough to commit such a heinous act? There is no reliable way to tell. An announcement like “I’m about to explode” is hardly ever followed by actual detonation.

What we do know about [the mass murderer], 64, is that he lived in the nearby town of Mesquite and often came to the Strip to gamble and attend country music shows. We also know, according to Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo, that [the mass murderer] brought more than 10 firearms to his room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.

So the “how” of this tragedy is simple: Our nation is flooded with guns, and the constitutionally protected right to “keep and bear arms” — established in the age of single-shot blunderbusses and muskets — has been deemed to include military-style semiautomatic assault rifles and other high-powered weapons.

Sound from cellphone videos taken during the Las Vegas massacre clearly indicates that [the mass murderer] was using a fully automatic rifle — meaning that squeezing and holding the trigger unleashed a long, continuous burst of gunfire. Such machine guns were supposedly outlawed in 1986, but there are two huge loopholes: In some states, it is legal to buy and sell machine guns that were made before 1986; and Internet merchants sell kits that convert semiautomatic rifles into fully automatic killing machines.

No deer hunter or target-shooting enthusiast needs a weapon intended for war zones — a weapon designed and optimized for use by soldiers against enemy forces. But if the Newtown, Conn., massacre of 6-year-olds and 7-year-olds didn’t even lead to universal background checks for gun purchasers, let alone a ban on assault weapons, I don’t see why anyone should believe things will be different this time around.

The Supreme Court has stated explicitly that reasonable gun-control measures are permissible under the Constitution. But can you imagine this Congress and this president doing the right thing? Neither can I. We’ll need a different Congress and a different president to make progress.

But even if I could snap my fingers and change the law, there would still be an estimated 300 million guns in the United States — roughly one per person. Which means that the quotidian carnage would continue.

Assume Sunday was an average day. If the Las Vegas killings had not happened, nearly 100 people around the country would have been killed by firearms. About two-thirds of those deaths would have been suicides; nearly all the rest, homicides — about 12,000 a year. We have become emotionally and intellectually numb to this appalling toll.

A mass shooting or a terrorist rampage, on the other hand, rivets the nation. Television networks shift into continuous “breaking news” coverage. Newspapers rush to profile the shooter, then the victims. The president makes a statement expressing the nation’s grief. Gun-rights advocates pre-emptively declare that this is not the time to talk about gun control, accusing anyone who does of politicizing tragedy. Gun-control proponents ask: If not now, then when? Everyone agrees we should do something about mental health, but we end up doing nothing. A long series of funerals ends the ritual.

We go back to our routines as if there won’t be a next time. But there will. And we all know it.

« Last Edit: October 03, 2017, 06:36:55 AM by TheZookie007 »
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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2017, 06:42:46 AM »
#1 I went back and edited the mass murderer's name out of that, since he has enough publicity.

#2 Apparently, CNN's Anderson Cooper took the same tack, starting out his show by saying in so many words that he isn't going to repeat the mass murderer's name and would instead focus on his victims.

#3 Snopes: "CBS Fires Lawyer Over Faceb__k Comments About Las Vegas Mass Shooting"
...because no matter where on the political spectrum you fall, can we just agree that mass murdering of your fellow humans is unacceptable?
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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2017, 07:05:33 AM »
"I’ve been a proponent of the 2nd amendment my entire life.
I am too.  But there comes a time when you have to look at it again.

Here in the UK we've had mass shootings - but after each they toughened the guns laws - to a point now where is is quite hard to legally own a gun. 

Tightening the guns laws wont stop a nutter with a car crashing into a crowd, or an acid attack. But you are very unlikely to be shot in the UK, very unlikely indeed.
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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2017, 08:30:30 AM »
I'm fine. I'm here in Canada visiting family and I just found out about it. I work at the Luxor which is the pyramid across the boulevard.
Glad you are okay - I bet your colleagues are super busy at the moment.


Monday morning I got a call on my cell phone asking me to come to work and I reminded my manager  I was about 3000 miles away and my return would not be until Wednesday.  But I know this event will change hotel procedures in regards to how we deal with guest luggage  check in procedures. Up until now, we never check the luggage of our guests prior to them renting a room. We may start now. Our policy has been to advise guests that if they have firearms, to check them into Security where we stow them in a safe. This is based on the honor system. Quite a lot comply. But of course, a lot don't . We are after all, in the hospitality business and not in the Security business. To harden the place to make it " secure " would involve making it as pleasant as the airport which would be intolerable to most of our guests. And gun control won't work because the bad guys won't disarm and those who wish to kill for evil reasons can use other means such as fertilizer loaded rental trucks like Timothy McVeigh. So before you advocate removing the right to self defence, you should remove the evil intent of people. Let's see you manage that.

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2017, 11:55:20 AM »
Can we just keep them from getting silencers for the guns?
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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2017, 02:02:41 PM »
Silencers are a Hollywood invention that does not exist. The correct term is suppressors and they lower the noise level from 145 + decibels to 130 -140 decibels. That is what a jet engine makes. Also, legislation should never be based in the stupidity of Hollywood  movies since they are there to entertain, not truthfully inform.

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2017, 04:18:15 PM »
^ Thank you, Sol.  Glad you are well.  You were in my thoughts.

Just for fun, try 30 seconds of search and 30 minutes of reading about suppressors:

1. Article referencing rarity of use in crime:

http://freebeacon.com/issues/atf-despite-nearly-1-3-million-silencers-united-states-rarely-used-crimes/

2. "Article" referencing individual crimes and asserting danger:

http://www.vpc.org/press/firearm-silencers-threaten-public-safety-new-vpc-study-finds/

3. Article synthesizing ~both of above:

https://reason.com/archives/2017/01/16/the-surprising-truth-about-gun-silencers/print

4. Discussion of "silencer" caselaw:

https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/files/2015/02/Silencer-caselaw.pdf

And, of course, Sol is correct.

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Re: Las Vegas
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2017, 11:07:40 PM »
I don't care what they are called, suppressor, silencer, or ear protection barrel attachment, they should not be readily available like the NRA wants.

I, like everyone else am pissed, that 59 were killed and almost 600 injured. 

I am damn proud of everyone that stepped up and helped those who were hurt.
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