Post by: DTM on June 06, 2001, 04:39:00 AM
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on September 06, 2001, 11:54:00 PM
If anyone knows, if this information was a trick or it was truthful, and TT really decided to come back ?
Post by: DTM on June 06, 2001, 04:39:00 AM
Post by: Governor on July 16, 2002, 09:01:30 AM
Post by: Vermillion on July 16, 2002, 09:26:02 AM
Post by: Psf_79 on July 16, 2002, 10:52:48 AM
*starts dreaming of SaRenna Lee with silly-string implants*
Post by: Vermillion on July 16, 2002, 01:49:59 PM
Post by: TheZookie007 on July 16, 2002, 02:20:32 PM
I agree: with the likes of Minka & Chelsea & Maxi & Melonie et al. out there, we have truly been spoiled...but it's all good! The bigger the better! The more of 'em, the even better!!
Post by: Seelie on July 16, 2002, 06:19:38 PM
Post by: Zorro on July 16, 2002, 11:15:53 PM
Post by: homevintner on July 16, 2002, 11:37:41 PM
Post by: Roachman on April 06, 2003, 08:03:18 PM
Little lower quality, from a shitty tape.
But hey! It's still Tiffany Towers.
Enjoy
rMan
www.Hooters.dk
ps
Kluewal is still up
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Previews/files/TIFFPRE.jpg
Post by: thcbl on April 07, 2003, 03:57:14 PM
Post by: GoCubsGo on November 26, 2003, 03:39:33 PM
http://www.sexvideohost.com/tiffany-towers/tiffany-towers.html
Post by: GoCubsGo on November 26, 2003, 03:40:34 PM
She was one of the best !
Post by: GoCubsGo on November 26, 2003, 03:41:23 PM
DAMN!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GoCubsGo on November 26, 2003, 03:42:12 PM
nice pic
Post by: McKormick on November 26, 2003, 04:01:25 PM
Post by: BNLsascha on January 09, 2004, 06:48:20 PM
Anybody been there ? PLZ Help. That Place has never answered my E Mail
Post by: Wally on January 09, 2004, 08:05:06 PM
The cutest face!
A killer body with an ass that makes me breathless!
Boobs that look "more natural" than the "current stars".
I have a Score video of her (not hard core) that blows
my mind every time I run it.
(I simply hate when these girls go "hard core")
She's simply the best.
Even Chelsea doesn't come close.
Did you know Tiffany T actually advertised for a boyfriend
through Score Magazine a couple of years ago. Of course it
didn't work out, and she pulled it back the next month, but
just imagine the possibility of getting hoocked up this total doll.
//Wally
Post by: thcbl on January 10, 2004, 03:10:20 AM
Post by: ImplantMania on January 10, 2004, 05:02:51 AM
Quote:
Did you know Tiffany T actually advertised for a boyfriend through Score Magazine a couple of years ago.
I wonder what an ad of someone like her looks like ... you got any details on that?
IM
Post by: Tardinha on January 10, 2004, 05:06:10 AM
however, her first few shoots were killer. that yellow bikini. YUM
Post by: Offline on January 10, 2004, 09:38:59 AM
Post by: Wally on January 10, 2004, 02:39:37 PM
Quote:Quote:
Did you know Tiffany T actually advertised for a boyfriend through Score Magazine a couple of years ago.
I wonder what an ad of someone like her looks like ... you got any details on that?
IM
It wasn't exactly an ad. It was in the form of a notice (plain text) in the news section of Score.
//Wally
Post by: pulp on January 11, 2004, 03:17:25 PM
Looks like she's dancing again at her old place of work. Is this for real? I'm going to TO soon and would definately have a beer with her... ;-)
Post by: maybeenuf4u on January 11, 2004, 05:31:26 PM
Post by: BNLsascha on January 11, 2004, 05:55:10 PM
but nobody could answer so far 
Unfortunately, I dont have very high hopes. 'cause the Pic of Tiffy has been up for almost 2 years now.
And when I went to TO last time in 2002 I wrote a mail to the club when her appearances would be. No reply, ever.
So Please , let all of us know what's up in there !
perhaps even a PM, so I don t miss anything , OK ? thanks
Post by: Blax12 on January 12, 2004, 03:29:53 AM
Blax12
Post by: Lloyd on January 12, 2004, 11:45:10 AM
Lloyd.
Post by: GoCubsGo on January 12, 2004, 12:38:26 PM
Incidentially, she offered me a "full-menu private show" for $150 (Canadian) - I would have done it in a HEARTBEAT if she still had the huge implants :-)
Lastly, her real name is "Tiffany Amarziano" according to the Internet Movie Database....
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0869953/bio
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0869953/
Post by: Palomine on January 12, 2004, 01:39:36 PM
Post by: RenegadeUK on January 12, 2004, 02:12:14 PM
Post by: RandomX on January 12, 2004, 02:28:35 PM
*makes note to upload her HS english teacher someday* (she was in some spanish film...)
Post by: BNLsascha on January 12, 2004, 02:59:58 PM
Brass Rail has a new Web-Site, where Tiffany ain't on anymore.
So, we've just been surfing to the old site , that's the reason why nobody responded to my e-Mail and the Towers-Pic is so old ...
www.brassrailtavern.com
But thanks for the "flat" Tiffany Picture, I think she'd have been worth $150 for me
Post by: Palomine on January 12, 2004, 05:50:09 PM
Quote:
It lists whatever people upload Palomine.
*makes note to upload her HS english teacher someday* (she was in some spanish film...)
So, some fan took the time to type in those couple dozen credits I assume.... TT was always such a pleasure to watch in action, even for a nats fan like me.
Post by: HeavyMetal1980 on January 13, 2004, 06:03:31 AM
Quote:
TT was always such a pleasure to watch in action, even for a nats fan like me.
Oh Hell yeah! It just sucks to see your favorites "disappear!"
Post by: mouse3720 on March 17, 2004, 01:40:59 AM
Post by: mouse3720 on March 17, 2004, 03:27:12 PM
please?
Post by: Palomine on March 17, 2004, 06:41:10 PM
Post by: Wolfman1066 on March 17, 2004, 08:06:16 PM
Post by: Palomine on March 17, 2004, 08:26:04 PM
Post by: Catch on March 18, 2004, 12:28:26 AM
He also had the best anti-Brit Spears club. Great morphs and funny.
Post by: JohnnyA on April 08, 2004, 08:49:05 PM
Post by: milom on April 08, 2004, 10:08:38 PM
Post by: Catch on April 08, 2004, 11:56:07 PM
Post by: dinkylittle on April 09, 2004, 09:58:18 AM
Post by: Ooze3d on April 09, 2004, 10:31:06 AM
Post by: DTM on April 09, 2004, 03:20:01 PM
Tiffany ,Wendy And Lisa made a few vids for them .I suspect this is where that clip is from. Which video ,can't say.. The box covers tell little or nothing what's inside.PS the way she makes her boob pop out of that suit is priceless.
Post by: Catch on April 09, 2004, 04:15:13 PM
Post by: Davide on July 05, 2004, 11:24:51 AM
When?
Does she reduced her boobs or not?
Can U post as much as possible picture of her before/after please?
Post by: Blax12 on July 05, 2004, 11:36:00 AM
On one side it is nice when a boob star retires on the top of her career, leaving us only with the best images of herself. On the other side, in a perfect world girls like Tiffany would never retire.
I miss her so much...
Blax"si ce penso, me pija no sturbo ar core"12
Post by: maybeenuf4u on July 05, 2004, 11:45:34 AM
Post by: Googie on July 05, 2004, 12:01:13 PM
Post by: thcbl on July 05, 2004, 01:08:10 PM
If it was Toronto ... I officially hate myself for never going to see her.
Post by: Tsunami2k on July 05, 2004, 01:26:49 PM
Post by: stumbleshoe on July 05, 2004, 02:59:35 PM
http://www.exotica-200.com/modelframe.php?modelid=644
Some old pics there, but she *is* available (the stats are current).
Post by: loutish2000 on July 05, 2004, 10:50:09 PM
Post by: Davide on July 06, 2004, 08:08:28 AM
Post by: Blax12 on July 06, 2004, 08:51:22 AM
BEWARE: 1.2 Mb file!!!
It is a pre-reduction video. From the Seymoure&Shane's Mount Tiffany: one of her best movies...
It is how I like to remember her.
Blax12
Post by: CaptainStupid on July 06, 2004, 01:49:28 PM
) of here career.CS
Post by: stumbleshoe on July 06, 2004, 06:33:46 PM
Quote:
Hmmm. Wonder how much is being offered. Is she now a bona fide "escort" offering the services commonly associated with that profession?
Based on many personal experiences with the company advertising her services, she is bona fide.
Post by: GoCubsGo on July 15, 2004, 02:22:08 PM
http://www.sexvideohost.com/score/big-tit-video/74
Post by: MrHHH on July 15, 2004, 02:24:42 PM
Post by: dinkylittle on July 15, 2004, 02:47:47 PM
Post by: Nicklaus_Vlad on July 15, 2004, 05:16:50 PM
And yes, I wish she was back in the ring too.
Post by: RoosterBoy on July 15, 2004, 06:00:04 PM
Post by: Whink on July 15, 2004, 06:51:03 PM
STD propogating skuzzball whore working Toronto's sleaziest street corners
Post by: clevernickname on July 15, 2004, 06:54:44 PM
Quote:
My fetish is pretty unoriginal, but has been lacking attention in your column for as long as I've been reading it. I have a breast fetish. More specifically, I like bigger-than-your-head breasts. Could you find out why all the huge-breasted porn stars of the mid-'90s (Tiffany Towers, Wendy Whoppers) left the industry, and why there aren't any new ones replacing them? And, more importantly, how do I find a partner who is willing and eager to get her breasts enlarged to epic proportions?
Boy Requesting Education About Super Tits
Did you know that if you Google "huge breasts," you get 1,170,000 hits? But if you Google "huge balls," you get only 67,000? And that if you Google "huge asshole," you get 8,830—including a link to the official White House web site?
My assistant, Mahrya, discovered these amazing facts, BREAST, while tracking down Tiffany Towers and Wendy Whoppers, neither of whom responded, as they say at The New York Times, to my repeated requests for comment. I could have looked up "huge breasts" myself, I suppose, but enormoboobs are so early- to mid-Clinton-era, you know? I like to reserve my time for researching newer, freakier fetishes, thank you very much, so it seemed like the perfect assignment for my assistant. Apparently not. Shortly after tracking down Tiffany Towers, Mahrya informed me that she's moving on. It seems my assistant found more respectable work at a law firm where she won't have to Google "huge breasts" ever again. (The partners will have to Google that for themselves.) While I'm sorry to see Mahrya go—thanks for everything, M—I am looking forward to hiring a new assistant. Does spending the day Googling enormoboobs, tracking down retired porn stars, and gently reminding me about deadlines I've already missed sound appealing? Send me an e-mail. (Male applicants are encouraged to enclose pictures of themselves in Speedos.)
On to your issues, BREAST: Since Ms. Towers and Ms. Whoppers wouldn't speak to me, I can't tell you precisely where they've gone. (Perhaps they've gone to see surgeons about having those basketball-size implants removed?) But I can tell you why the boom in enormoboobs went... wait for it... bust. The sudden appearance of women with ridiculously huge boob implants was arousing in part because of its shock value. There was the shock of women with such exaggerated racks, of course, but there was also the more important—and, sadly, the infinitely more arousing—shock of women finding a novel new way to imperil their health in order to attract the attention of men. Men have always found it arousing when women go to bizarre extremes, including self-**13** (bound feet) and self-torture (high heels), to make themselves more attractive, and enormoboobs were extreme in the extreme. That enormoboobs played into the deeply ingrained and thoroughly eroticized misogyny that plagues all human cultures to varying degrees was lost on most men. (Let's not be too relativist about this: I'm sure most women would prefer to live in a culture that allows women who want to have enormoboobs to go and get them over, say, a culture that compels all women to have their clits cut off.)
So, why did the enormoboobs thing go bust? Once the shock value wore off, BREAST, what was left? Women with huge racks. But once you've seen 20 or 30 women with huge breasts tossing chairs at each other on Jerry Springer, well, the fetish doesn't seem so fresh anymore. The porn market moved on, Towers and Whoppers found it harder to get work, and new porn stars didn't line up for enormoboob jobs because there wasn't any money in it.
While the culture has moved on to other, fresher, more interesting fetishes—robo fetish, anyone?—you've still got a bone for enormoboobs. That's a problem, BREAST, because finding a partner who's willing to torture herself by getting huge implants is going to be tough. Most of the women who got them were looking to cash in on the porn-driven craze for huge breasts and/or go on Springer and toss chairs around. They didn't do it to please themselves or just one guy. Body mods, however, are an emerging fetish, and you might find a woman out there who's into body mods who would be willing to blow her chest up to enormous proportions to please you. She may very well insist, however, that you reciprocate by blowing your balls up to please her. She'll have a hard time standing up, BREAST, and you'll have a hard time sitting down, but we all have to make sacrifices for love, right?
Post by: Nicklaus_Vlad on July 15, 2004, 07:08:00 PM
And noticed that I said ME, in specificity.
Post by: GoCubsGo on July 22, 2004, 10:53:44 AM
Post by: Goldeneye on July 22, 2004, 03:00:59 PM
Post by: melonie_charm on July 22, 2004, 05:10:15 PM
Quote:
So, why did the enormoboobs thing go bust? Once the shock value wore off, BREAST, what was left? Women with huge racks. But once you've seen 20 or 30 women with huge breasts tossing chairs at each other on Jerry Springer, well, the fetish doesn't seem so fresh anymore. The porn market moved on, Towers and Whoppers found it harder to get work, and new porn stars didn't line up for enormoboob jobs because there wasn't any money in it.
That's definitely a large part of the story ... less and less money to be made by simply having 'enormoboobs', earning decent money requiring getting involved in the porn/sex business, and the ability to earn decent money in the porn/sex business not having much correlation to whether the girl in question has natural C cups or augmented J cups.
The other part of the story is of course the increasing costs and difficulty involved in obtaining huge breast implants and finding a doctor who is willing to/is skilled enough to put them in without major complications soon following.
Put the two together and you've got a situation where several years of effort and tens of thousands of dollars worth of repeated breast augmentation surgeries allow a girl to essentially make the same amount of money as a girl with natural C cups in the porn/sex business. Thus the only girls who are really eager and willing to go through the enormoboob process today do it because they simply love having enormous boobs (and don't mind having loan payments for the surgeries) !
Post by: Kayla_fan on July 22, 2004, 11:23:08 PM
Tiffany Towers, Dee Dee Reeves, Wendy, and many others are just a thing of the past. They should be missed, but as mentioned, nothing last forever.
And Melonie Charms don't you come from that school too? Maybe a little after. I am honored to write under you.
Post by: Goldeneye on July 23, 2004, 01:29:54 AM
Post by: Blax12 on July 23, 2004, 02:20:03 AM
In risposta di:
I wish Tiffany Towers had her huge implants "re-installed
Well, who doesn't? On the other side, i always say i appreciate busted stars who retire before it is too "late".
Blax12
P.s. Obviously you all know you can change the gallery number from the link above and get the other galleries...
Post by: melonie_charm on July 23, 2004, 01:02:12 PM
Quote:
And Melonie Charms don't you come from that school too? Maybe a little after. I am honored to write under you.
No need for honor - I'm just a plain 'ol country girl who happens to have really big tits !
You're correct that I came onto the scene perhaps 5 years after Tiffany, Wendy et al - by that time the heydey of the big boob industry was already over, and has been declining ever since.
Quote:
On the other side, i always say i appreciate busted stars who retire before it is too "late".
I've been entertaining similar thoughts myself in regard to my own career.
Post by: Kayla_fan on July 23, 2004, 06:13:41 PM
And don't be so modest, Melonie.
Post by: GoCubsGo on July 28, 2004, 01:37:39 PM
http://www.sexvideohost.com/score/big-tit-video/087
http://sexvideohost.com/score/big-tit-video/70
Post by: Pixeltiger on July 29, 2004, 03:49:38 AM
Quote:Say it ain't so, Joe! Mel you are a gorgeous, wonderful woman with fantastic boobs. Please don't consider retirement. I'm sure I am not the only one who feels this way.Quote:
On the other side, i always say i appreciate busted stars who retire before it is too "late".
I've been entertaining similar thoughts myself in regard to my own career.
Pixeltiger
Post by: melonie_charm on July 30, 2004, 05:28:59 AM
I guess that my comment was inspired to some degree by my frustration about the changing trend in the huge boobs business - particularly as it affects girls like me who do not choose to do mainstream XXX work or private shows/escorting .
Post by: DanM on July 30, 2004, 05:38:19 AM
Tiffany looks amazing, does anyone have (or know where i can find) a few pics of her before she had her boobs done? then after, then after again (like now).
Thanks
Post by: melonie_charm on July 30, 2004, 05:35:36 PM
If you click on Tiffany's link, the picture referred to as "small size" is actually from her very last photo shoot. The pictures referred to as "bigger" are from an early photo shoot. The pictures referred to as "biggest" were actually shot in between, before Tiffany had her "reduction".
Also, please hit some of the ScoreLand links there as "payback" for Score providing the free pictures ! Mods, to the best of my knowledge all images at the linked site were donated and/or posted with the knowledge and consent of the copyright holders.
Post by: Goldeneye on August 01, 2004, 02:00:43 AM
Post by: GoCubsGo on August 11, 2004, 10:53:08 AM
One of her best videos.......
Post by: Scarface on August 24, 2004, 08:57:04 PM
Post by: the_squirrel on August 24, 2004, 11:26:23 PM
Post by: Palomine on August 25, 2004, 12:48:27 AM
Post by: Blax12 on August 25, 2004, 02:04:25 AM
Btw, if anyone from score group is reading this message, I'll tell them an italian "ma andate a cagare".
Lately I have collected a lot of videos from the net. They are all short samples you can find for free. I was thinking about the chance to enlarge my gallery with a video section.
But as long as there are so many problems, I don't know if it is worth to do it.
Blax12
Post by: GoCubsGo on August 25, 2004, 08:31:52 AM
http://www.exotica-200.com/modelframe.php?modelid=644
Some old pics there, but she *is* available (the stats are current) 34DDD - 26 - 32."
New York, NY (09/11/2004 - 09/15/2004)
Boston, MA (09/16/2004 - 09/18/2004)
Chicago, IL (09/19/2004 - 09/21/2004)
Florida Area, FL (09/22/2004 - 09/23/2004)
Tiffany Towers will always be my favorite busty porn star. It is very misleading that most of her pics on the Exotica 2000 website are from 10 years ago !!! A classic "bait-and-switch" tactic. You know that some guys see her pictures (from 1994 on the website) and get all excited and make an appointment only to feel short-changed when she shows up with much smaller implants than her early 90's HUUUUUUUUUUGE set.
Lastly, I would kill to have an hour with the 1994 version of TT.......
Post by: andrat2000 on August 25, 2004, 11:43:41 AM
Quote:
"She is now available for your personal interaction:
http://www.exotica-200.com/modelframe.php?modelid=644
Some old pics there, but she *is* available (the stats are current) 34DDD - 26 - 32."
New York, NY (09/11/2004 - 09/15/2004)
Boston, MA (09/16/2004 - 09/18/2004)
Chicago, IL (09/19/2004 - 09/21/2004)
Florida Area, FL (09/22/2004 - 09/23/2004)
Tiffany Towers will always be my favorite busty porn star. It is very misleading that most of her pics on the Exotica 2000 website are from 10 years ago !!! A classic "bait-and-switch" tactic. You know that some guys see her pictures (from 1994 on the website) and get all excited and make an appointment only to feel short-changed when she shows up with much smaller implants than her early 90's HUUUUUUUUUUGE set.
Lastly, I would kill to have an hour with the 1994 version of TT.......
But there is two pictures on this site where she has the smaller boobs. She still looks damn hot! Even better, because she has this kind of mature look!
http://www.exotica-200.com/priv-cgi/dynimage.mpl?model=tiffany_towers&media=images/tiffany02.jpg&geometry=766x687.25
bye,
andrat2000
Post by: bamken on August 25, 2004, 11:44:09 AM
Post by: Scarface on August 25, 2004, 05:56:06 PM
Couldn't she make more money if she stayed in porn and have a little more control over who she boinks.
Anyone know what she charges? LOL
Post by: stumbleshoe on August 25, 2004, 08:32:12 PM
Quote:
I don't know why, but I just can't get over that fact she appears to be a call girl.
Couldn't she make more money if she stayed in porn and have a little more control over who she boinks.
Anyone know what she charges? LOL
These days most girls have a pretty short "shelf life" in porn - they crank out as many videos as possible before they become yesterday's news and the industry as moved on to the next "fresh face".
The profit margins for escorting can be huge and she does have some control over who she boinks. You're looking at $1000-$1500 for the majority of ladies and companies like Exotica will run a credit/employment check and some screening to make sure you're not a nutjob.
Some ladies work without an agency and can be had for much less - TT herself was available under the radar for only few hundred a while back.
Post by: melonie_charm on August 25, 2004, 08:47:54 PM
Quote:
I don't know why, but I just can't get over that fact she appears to be a call girl.
Couldn't she make more money if she stayed in porn and have a little more control over who she boinks.
Actually, it seems that more huge boobs girls offer "personal services" than not these days. This is a sad testament to the current state of the huge boobs business in general. Earning a couple of thousand dollars for a mainstream XXX video appearance a few times per year simply doesn't pay the bills these days after taxes and expenses are subtracted. Club featuring and website modeling pay even less ! The "heavy money" can seemingly only be found through providing "private shows" and/or "personal services" to fans willing to pay well for the privelege.
Post by: Scarface on August 25, 2004, 09:40:46 PM
Post by: ample1 on October 03, 2004, 06:30:11 PM
http://www.bigdoggie.net/scgi-perl/review.cgi?id=39694&page=view web page
Post by: Scarface on October 03, 2004, 06:39:59 PM
Post by: Obsessed on October 16, 2004, 12:42:38 PM
Post by: Tiggo on October 16, 2004, 01:45:00 PM
If anybody's ever seen "Seymour and Shane Mount Tiffany" you KNOW what a sensual, intelligent, demure and sexy GODDESS Tiffany Towers is, with or without beach ball size tits....
She is SO cute and at the same time naughty....
But I don't have anywhere near this kind of money.... but if I win the lottery or something....
Post by: Lloyd on November 13, 2004, 01:57:56 PM
Thread about Tiffany
Lloyd.
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on November 13, 2004, 02:02:36 PM
Post by: Scarface on November 13, 2004, 02:46:18 PM
does it have anything to do with her doing her first XXX film in 8 years?
Post by: Angelus on November 13, 2004, 06:15:29 PM
Post by: stumbleshoe on November 13, 2004, 06:30:02 PM
Post by: fitnessphotos on November 14, 2004, 09:39:58 AM
Post by: Lloyd on November 14, 2004, 10:30:19 AM
From : Tiffany Towers <[email protected]>
Sent : October 25, 2004 8:18:19 PM
To :
Subject : RE: Mystique Lounge
Hello (Marbles),
I am not at the moment, I am recovering from re-doing my boobies, I will probably be out of commision until the middle of November, I am not sure where I want to work, give me a shout closer to then and I will let you know...
Take Care,
Tiffany
From: (Marbels)
To: Tiffany Towers <[email protected]>
Subject: Mystique Lounge
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:40:19 -0400
hi tiffany,
i was just wondering if you're still dancing at mystique. if so, i'd love to come see you tonight. let me know.
thanks,
(Marbles)
Lloyd.
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on November 14, 2004, 10:41:28 AM
Post by: Tiggo on November 14, 2004, 11:29:34 AM
GREATEST MODEL UPDATE of all time.
Thanks are in order from everybody to Mr. Lloyd.
I can't believe more people aren't chiming in to express their disbelief and incredible optimism that TIFFANY TOWERS, ONE OF THE GREATEST HUGE-TITTERS OF ALL TIME, AFTER RETIRING AND GETTING REDUCED, HAS RECENTLY GONE BACK UNDER THE SCALPEL TO GET HUGE IMPLANTS (AGAIN) AND IS NOW COMING BACK TO POSSIBLY MODEL, TOUR, AND ESCORT!!!!!
Is it just me who sees this as the best news around here in a long time???
Please somebody throw me a hell ya here.
Post by: Obsessed on November 14, 2004, 01:01:17 PM
Quote:
HAS RECENTLY GONE BACK UNDER THE SCALPEL TO GET HUGE IMPLANTS (AGAIN) AND IS NOW COMING BACK TO POSSIBLY MODEL, TOUR, AND ESCORT!!!!!
Lord please let this be true!!!! She was the best ever, I almost cried when she retired. Gotta start saving for her to make a house call.
Post by: MasterDragonfly on November 14, 2004, 02:22:18 PM
I did e-mail her at that very same e-mail address some years ago. I want to say 1998/99 timeframe. I can't remember what I'd written, but it wasn't a quick one-liner. She wrote me back a rather terse e-mail, something snarky to the effect of, "I don't have time to read long e-mails." I don't recall her exact wording, but my version here is less emotional than her version was. She didn't even make the vaguest reference to any part of the e-mail I'd written. And it wasn't a terribly long e-mail, maybe 3 paragraphs. Maybe she has ADD? heh I guess to her 3 short e-mails is preferable to 1 long e-mail. *shrug*
I still remember her in that one movie where she's some sort of enchanted woman 'trapped' in an enchanted mirror. Some of her acting cracked me up.
I think my fave line was when she said "No no no no no!" just before getting banished back to whence she came.Unless I'm mistaken, I think she was originally discovered at the record store Sam The Record Man on Yonge St. in Toronto. (Can you tell I'm originally from the area?
)Looking forward to her return.
MD{s^b}
Post by: thcbl on November 14, 2004, 03:22:42 PM
Tiffany has been my favourite since I was like 14 and bought my first mag.
This makes me anxious.
Post by: ggk on November 14, 2004, 03:45:53 PM
Post by: BNLsascha on November 14, 2004, 03:52:37 PM
I am sorry to tell you folks , but she has not gone back to giant-maximum boobs.
She wrote to me "I did have my boobs redone but don't worry I am still a huge DD..."
So it seems like some remodeling but neither expansion nor reduction. Sorry to tell you
I ll forward the mail I got to any of you guys in private , but not in public in case you don t believe me
Post by: Scarface on November 14, 2004, 05:07:12 PM
Post by: TheHerald on November 14, 2004, 06:14:30 PM
Post by: Lloyd on November 14, 2004, 08:33:12 PM
Lloyd.
Post by: 3pyon on November 15, 2004, 01:26:39 AM
Post by: Liam on November 15, 2004, 04:23:08 AM
Did anyone see the Canadian 1-900 commercial she did not long after she downsized? Filmed in some club in Montreal? You’d turn on the TV every night late and see Tiffany Towers! By television standards she still looked huge (and stunningly luscious). “I want a guy with lots of money,” as she rubbed her fingers together in the universal sign for scratch.
I can believe that she’s not the nicest person in the world and doesn’t respect her fans… that has come across in some things… But aw well, she was still the Goddess back in the day, definitely can’t complain…
From what I’m reading in this thread, it doesn’t sound like she IS coming back mega size.
Post by: MasterDragonfly on November 15, 2004, 08:14:48 AM
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Many years ago I remember reading that in an interview, that she couldn’t dance in the States because she couldn’t get a work permit. I found that very strange; they’re not that hard to get…
One wasy of making it exceptionally difficult to get a work permit is if you have a criminal record or have been dishonest with the INS/whatever they call it now in the past. Getting married would obviously grease those wheels. However, they're very particular about it being a legit marriage, and getting married without the fringe benefits (and possibly living in separate homes) might raise their suspicions. heh
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Did anyone see the Canadian 1-900 commercial she did not long after she downsized? Filmed in some club in Montreal? You’d turn on the TV every night late and see Tiffany Towers! By television standards she still looked huge (and stunningly luscious). “I want a guy with lots of money,” as she rubbed her fingers together in the universal sign for scratch.
Doh! Never did see that. That must have happened after I started working in the USA. (Tangent: On the rare times I go home, it's still refreshing to see the CityTV shows produced in Toronto.)
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I can believe that she’s not the nicest person in the world and doesn’t respect her fans… that has come across in some things… But aw well, she was still the Goddess back in the day, definitely can’t complain…
Hard to argue with fantasy, eh?
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From what I’m reading in this thread, it doesn’t sound like she IS coming back mega size.
Agreed.
MD{s^b}
Post by: RoosterBoy on November 15, 2004, 11:32:52 PM
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“I want a guy with lots of money,” as she rubbed her fingers together in the universal sign for scratch.
I can believe that she’s not the nicest person in the world and doesn’t respect her fans… that has come across in some things…
Guess it just goes to show you can't judge a book by it's cover. In all of her films she seemed so open minded, fun and friendly. Guess that's why they call it acting.
Post by: Blax12 on November 16, 2004, 02:37:39 AM
How can you count more qualities into a single babe?
I remember her movies "Tommy Knockers" and - most than everyone else - "Seymoure and Shane's Mount Tiffany": I would kill anyone for taking the place of Seymoure into that movie...His fiancè (or wife, I don't know) Shane makes lesbo shows with Tiffany for him, then she let him having his way with her...
Blax12
Post by: Liam on November 16, 2004, 07:58:25 AM
Quote:She was? Are you saying she was a Toronto **33** before she was discovered? …Uh, not that I would know anything about Toronto hookers…
she was a professional prostitute who became a
Post by: Blax12 on November 16, 2004, 08:43:47 AM
I'll see if I can find the link...
Blax12
Post by: Blax12 on November 16, 2004, 08:43:47 AM
I'll see if I can find the link...
Blax12
Post by: gabyybag on November 16, 2004, 10:02:52 AM
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I read it into an interview with Wendy Whoppers by St. Stephan.
I'll see if I can find the link...
Blax12
http://bearchive.com/~behavior/v3n25/p1.html
see yaa... =)
Post by: Blax12 on November 16, 2004, 10:31:35 AM
Important Note: Though I understand how **31** often hides stories of enslavement and so it is something sad and worth to fight against, I like **31** for its own. While many people think of it as a degrading practice and use terms as "bitch" or "slut" to insult, and other people involved into sex-related business (see the interview of Wendy Whoppers energically claming a pornstar not to be a prostitute) try to underline the differences among them and the prostitutes, like pros were sick or inferior people, I think prostitutes - if adult and consent - have all my respect.
So I wasn't kidding about how I like Tiffany.
Blax12
Post by: Blax12 on November 16, 2004, 10:54:38 AM
Blax12
"They had already bitched about Tiffany, but it was well known that she was a prostitute anyway, so no one really cared".
Post by: Blax12 on November 16, 2004, 11:11:05 AM
Here is her quote.
Blax12
A huge portion of the big boob girls are hookers now, and they know I do not agree with that. The big boob business is dying, and they feel that is their only way to make a living. Not that I have a problem with hookers; I could care less if someone wants to be a **33** as long as they are over 18. But when they sit back and deny it, it pisses me off because I know exactly what goes on.
Post by: BNLsascha on November 22, 2004, 02:02:13 PM
Does anybody know if a night with today's Tiffany Towers would be worth $1.000 ?
I d really love to get to know her well, but there s hardly a way I could get that amount of money (tho its canadian
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Post by: stumbleshoe on November 22, 2004, 04:17:57 PM
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*bump*
Does anybody know if a night with today's Tiffany Towers would be worth $1.000 ?
I d really love to get to know her well, but there s hardly a way I could get that amount of money (tho its canadian
Donations to ....
Reviews have not been good.
Post by: WantumBigger on November 22, 2004, 05:16:06 PM
Post by: ample1 on November 22, 2004, 05:33:38 PM
Post by: rhinoceros82 on November 22, 2004, 09:20:42 PM
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A long time back while working in Canada, Tiffany and I hooked up at a club where I kept her busy for a couple hours. She offered me some good money to marry her so she could come to the states to perform. I asked if I got "congenial" (sp?) visits and she said no, so I said no way.
Are you serious?
Post by: WantumBigger on November 22, 2004, 09:32:27 PM
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A long time back while working in Canada, Tiffany and I hooked up at a club where I kept her busy for a couple hours. She offered me some good money to marry her so she could come to the states to perform. I asked if I got "congenial" (sp?) visits and she said no, so I said no way.
Are you serious?
LOL, are you seriously asking that question?
Post by: rhinoceros82 on November 22, 2004, 09:33:20 PM
Quote:Quote:She was? Are you saying she was a Toronto **33** before she was discovered? …Uh, not that I would know anything about Toronto hookers…
she was a professional prostitute who became a
Is there even a difference between being a prostitute and being a porn star? I dont think so.
Post by: ROBRAM89 on November 22, 2004, 09:39:07 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:She was? Are you saying she was a Toronto **33** before she was discovered? …Uh, not that I would know anything about Toronto hookers…
she was a professional prostitute who became a
Is there even a difference between being a prostitute and being a porn star? I dont think so.
That's dangerous talk in these parts.
Post by: rhinoceros82 on November 22, 2004, 09:40:03 PM
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A long time back while working in Canada, Tiffany and I hooked up at a club where I kept her busy for a couple hours. She offered me some good money to marry her so she could come to the states to perform. I asked if I got "congenial" (sp?) visits and she said no, so I said no way.
Are you serious?
LOL, are you seriously asking that question?
lol sorry. I was just curious about the marriage part. I made that comment before I read through the entire thread. But now I see that this Tiffany Towers person seems to be a really deplorable character so I guess its not so unbelievable at all.
Post by: rhinoceros82 on November 22, 2004, 09:50:51 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:She was? Are you saying she was a Toronto **33** before she was discovered? …Uh, not that I would know anything about Toronto hookers…
she was a professional prostitute who became a
Is there even a difference between being a prostitute and being a porn star? I dont think so.
That's dangerous talk in these parts.
I didnt mean for it to sound negative. I dont care if someone is a prostitute or a pornstar. Thats their choice and their business. Just because something is illegal doesnt necessarily mean that its a bad thing.
Post by: Tiggo on November 22, 2004, 11:38:32 PM
People are unbelievably SILLY and nauseatingly OXYMORONIC who stand there, with a porno in one hand, watching porn, and writing love letters to their favorite big-bust girl, and then pontificate about the horrible, moral inserpitude of "prostitutes" in hushed tones...
LOL
A rose by any other name, you silly sods...
Or, put another way, what % of marriages in America (and probably a higher % elsewhere in the world) aren't TRULY DEEP DOWN based on the fact that the man provides money (in all its forms, shelter, food, clothing, gifts, etc.) for the wife????
Think about it, won't you??
Post by: melonie_charm on November 23, 2004, 09:04:20 AM
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Is there even a difference between being a prostitute and being a porn star? I dont think so.
Actually, there are extensive legal differences between performing sexual acts with a member of the general public in exchange for direct payment (i.e. **31**), - and performing sexual acts with a fellow actor in a scripted stage/screen/video production, with no payment taking place between the actors performing sexual acts (but with both being paid 'acting fees' for their performances by the production company). The former is illegal in most parts of the USA, while the latter is specifically legally protected by the first amendment.
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Just because something is illegal doesnt necessarily mean that its a bad thing.
Ain't that the truth. This is especially the case for girls on the club feature circuit. In one part of Nevada, acts of **31** may be 100% legal. In one part of New Jersey, it may be illegal to show her nipples on stage ! In other cities the spectrum runs from topless only to no taking tips in her cleavage to no thong bottoms - basically making no sense whatsoever !
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A huge portion of the big boob girls are hookers now, and they know I do not agree with that. The big boob business is dying, and they feel that is their only way to make a living. Not that I have a problem with hookers; I could care less if someone wants to be a **33** as long as they are over 18. But when they sit back and deny it, it pisses me off because I know exactly what goes on.
Yes the aspects of 'show business' versus 'sex business' hypocracy linger on. As discussed in countless other threads and as pointed out by Wendy Whoppers in her 'retirement' interview with St. Stephan, the 'show business' days of huge boobs were already in decline in the late 1990's. We've arrived at a point in 2004 where, with the possible exception of a tiny handful of the most massively huge boobed Titans whose sheer bust size can convince guys to part with club tips and/or website membership money, if a huge boobed girl wants to earn serious money in this business today it's simply impossible without incorporating sex for money somewhere along the line. If a girl chooses to carry on without incorporating sex for money, she also usually has to keep her 'day job' (or two or three) and pursue huge boob modeling and performing as a very part time venture which probably doesn't even pay enough to cover the cost of her implants !
Post by: Liam on November 23, 2004, 03:22:46 PM
Quote:Not me, not ever. I have no problem with prostitutes. I merely found it interesting, as a piece of trivia, it being suggested here that Tiffany Towers was a prostitute BEFORE she was discovered. She was 19 when she debuted in Gent. (I can actually visualize the day I got that issue in the mail.) If this claim is true, and it’s a big IF, it means she was a very young prostitute indeed, probably a minor forced into it by destitution… (In a place and time I have some familiarity with.)
People are unbelievably SILLY and nauseatingly OXYMORONIC who stand there, with a porno in one hand, watching porn, and writing love letters to their favorite big-bust girl, and then pontificate about the horrible, moral inserpitude of "prostitutes" in hushed tones...
Quote:*squints to make sure that’s a decimal point and not a comma* Yes it would be worth one dollar. It would not IMO be worth your plane fare here though.
Does anybody know if a night with today's Tiffany Towers would be worth $1.000 ?
I’ve just been inspired to go find my Napali video with the Melonie Charm scene.. Or the Score one… Or…
Definition of money well spent.
Post by: stumbleshoe on November 23, 2004, 06:47:18 PM
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Yes the aspects of 'show business' versus 'sex business' hypocracy linger on. As discussed in countless other threads and as pointed out by Wendy Whoppers in her 'retirement' interview with St. Stephan, the 'show business' days of huge boobs were already in decline in the late 1990's. We've arrived at a point in 2004 where, with the possible exception of a tiny handful of the most massively huge boobed Titans whose sheer bust size can convince guys to part with club tips and/or website membership money, if a huge boobed girl wants to earn serious money in this business today it's simply impossible without incorporating sex for money somewhere along the line. If a girl chooses to carry on without incorporating sex for money, she also usually has to keep her 'day job' (or two or three) and pursue huge boob modeling and performing as a very part time venture which probably doesn't even pay enough to cover the cost of her implants !
I still have always wondered why more ladies don't take the "non-sex" or "breast worship" route though. To use you as an example Mel, which I hope you don't mind, you danced in a limited region of the country, and I unfortunately never had the pleasure of sseing you live. But, I'd gladly pay $100 or more an hour (name your price babe
) to meet you somewhere and have a full contact lap dance somewhere.No sex involved, just showing some love for those titanic melons you have. Sure, that route won't earn the $500-$1000 an hour range that a full blown escort would, but I'd be interested in how many web hits, club performances, etc it would take to match that money.
Apologies in advance to anyone who is offended by my forward-ness...in particular Mel, who I have all the respect for in the world (I recall those Charming days
)
Post by: melonie_charm on November 24, 2004, 09:23:15 AM
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I still have always wondered why more ladies don't take the "non-sex" or "breast worship" route though. To use you as an example Mel, which I hope you don't mind, you danced in a limited region of the country, and I unfortunately never had the pleasure of sseing you live. But, I'd gladly pay $100 or more an hour (name your price babe ) to meet you somewhere and have a full contact lap dance somewhere.
Since I do limit myself to the "non-sex" or "breast worship" route, there is a very good reason that I only travel to limited regions of the country ! It's called gross income less expenses equals net income. As you pointed out via your offer, unless the girl happens to be Chelsea Charms the amount of money guys are willing to pay for a "non-sex" private session is way less than they would be willing to pay for full blown escort services. Unfortunately, the plane ticket from NY to SC and the hotel room required to meet with you for a "breast worship" session do cost the same !
This is the reason that I try to limit my road trips to within 300 miles driving distance of my home in NY. When I do fly to other areas of the country (example Miami, Chicago, LA, Texas) it's because a magazine or video producer or TV producer was covering my travel and accomodation expenses in conjunction with a modeling/video gig, basically leaving me free to hit clubs or meet with fans after the modeling/video gig is over without having to incur extra costs to do so. Unfortunately, when a magazine or video/TV producer is paying me plus picking up my travel tab, I'm expected to play along with THEIR schedule not my own. Therefore, if a photo shoot or taping session runs late, I'm expected to blow off whatever other private scheduling commitments I might have made and finish it This does not equate with happy fans whose "private session" I won't be able to show up for!.
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No sex involved, just showing some love for those titanic melons you have. Sure, that route won't earn the $500-$1000 an hour range that a full blown escort would, but I'd be interested in how many web hits, club performances, etc it would take to match that money.
Unfortunately, again unless you happen to be Chelsea Charms the number of huge boob lovers available in a given city who are willing to spend significant amounts of money for a "non-sex" private session don't come close to defraying the airfare and hotel bills necessary for the girl to get there in the first place - not to mention the time spent travelling for which she's getting paid nothing!
In regard to club feature gigs in various cities, today these feature bookings pay just about enough to cover the airfare and hotel expenses necessary to do the gig. This means that if a girl follows the "non-sex" route that her net earnings from a feature appearance aren't likely to be much higher than if she simply worked in a club close to home and avoided the airfare and hotel expenses. While I don't want to speak for any other huge boob girls, it is interesting to note that BB Gunns chose to dance at a particular club in Philly on a regular basis, that a long list of girls choose to work at a particular club in Vegas on a regular basis, etc. IMHO this is simply a choice to maximize net income, where the girl can drive to the local club from her home and therefore avoid additional expenses for which there simply are no longer enough "paying customers" to cover !
Post by: Tiggo on November 24, 2004, 05:54:39 PM
She has one of cutest smiles ever!!
Who would have thought that a "woman of the night" could be so cute and charming!!
Post by: stumbleshoe on November 24, 2004, 06:27:19 PM
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I still have always wondered why more ladies don't take the "non-sex" or "breast worship" route though. To use you as an example Mel, which I hope you don't mind, you danced in a limited region of the country, and I unfortunately never had the pleasure of sseing you live. But, I'd gladly pay $100 or more an hour (name your price babe ) to meet you somewhere and have a full contact lap dance somewhere.
Since I do limit myself to the "non-sex" or "breast worship" route, there is a very good reason that I only travel to limited regions of the country ! It's called gross income less expenses equals net income. As you pointed out via your offer, unless the girl happens to be Chelsea Charms the amount of money guys are willing to pay for a "non-sex" private session is way less than they would be willing to pay for full blown escort services. Unfortunately, the plane ticket from NY to SC and the hotel room required to meet with you for a "breast worship" session do cost the same !
Oh, sweetie no - I travel to YOU and get my own room in NYC. I rarely EVER have had someone travel to SC (as most gals don't travel here anyway). I'd never expect anyone to travel to me for peanuts because you're right - that wouldn't add up.
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This is the reason that I try to limit my road trips to within 300 miles driving distance of my home in NY. When I do fly to other areas of the country (example Miami, Chicago, LA, Texas) it's because a magazine or video producer or TV producer was covering my travel and accomodation expenses in conjunction with a modeling/video gig, basically leaving me free to hit clubs or meet with fans after the modeling/video gig is over without having to incur extra costs to do so. Unfortunately, when a magazine or video/TV producer is paying me plus picking up my travel tab, I'm expected to play along with THEIR schedule not my own. Therefore, if a photo shoot or taping session runs late, I'm expected to blow off whatever other private scheduling commitments I might have made and finish it This does not equate with happy fans whose "private session" I won't be able to show up for!.
Yes - I got "rescheduled" once for a video shoot when meeting someone in Vegas.
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In regard to club feature gigs in various cities, today these feature bookings pay just about enough to cover the airfare and hotel expenses necessary to do the gig. This means that if a girl follows the "non-sex" route that her net earnings from a feature appearance aren't likely to be much higher than if she simply worked in a club close to home and avoided the airfare and hotel expenses. While I don't want to speak for any other huge boob girls, it is interesting to note that BB Gunns chose to dance at a particular club in Philly on a regular basis, that a long list of girls choose to work at a particular club in Vegas on a regular basis, etc. IMHO this is simply a choice to maximize net income, where the girl can drive to the local club from her home and therefore avoid additional expenses for which there simply are no longer enough "paying customers" to cover !
Which is why I fly/drive to surrounding areas to see these ladies and why I encourage others to do so - I'm always hitting Atlanta, and I may be headed to Miami soon. I even flew to WI once to catch Sarenna Lee at a club - stayed for all three shows, got a ton of polaroids, and had her sign my video collection of her.
If we (the fans) don't get out and show support, there won't be any more big boobed acts to see.
Some folks don't have the free time I do, but dang it - I love boobs and make the free time
Thanks Mel!
PS The local club sucks, I even tried bribing the owner to schedule more gals (although Chelsea is coming next spring). However, those same idiots have a midget act (sorry little people) for tonight. *sigh*
Post by: Tiggo on November 24, 2004, 06:43:41 PM
If so, do you frequent the Bottom's Up Club??
If so, did you see Chelsea C. there in the fall of 1999?
Or if these question are too personal, ignore this.....
Rule #9: You do not talk about BEArchive.
Rule #10: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT BEARCHIVE.
(see the site issues forum for explanation)
Post by: stumbleshoe on November 24, 2004, 06:51:13 PM
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Hey stumbleshoe, are you in/near Colombia?
I'm down in the Looooow-country
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If so, do you frequent the Bottom's Up Club??
If so, did you see Chelsea C. there in the fall of 1999?
Yes, no - was dating a dancer back then (don't ask - sigh)
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Or if these question are too personal, ignore this.....
Rule #9: You do not talk about BEArchive.
Rule #10: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT BEARCHIVE.
(see the site issues forum for explanation)
No problem - you should hang out in ATL and overhear guys talking about TER or ASPD at the Pink Pony...gee thanks guys.
Post by: Tiggo on November 24, 2004, 07:18:01 PM
Musta been another huge-boob fan....
ATL is the greatest city on Earth, btw...
As Ludacris once said, "If they ever talk bad about the Dirty South, whatchoo gon do? Act a fool!"
(I know, I know... I'm too white to talk like that... but it is the internet... YOU don't know that.... LOL
)Post by: gabyybag on December 30, 2004, 08:50:52 PM
http://starrproductions.biz
see yaa... =)
Post by: Jack59 on December 31, 2004, 10:56:16 AM
Bummer.
Post by: ggk on December 31, 2004, 11:00:13 AM
Post by: Lloyd on December 31, 2004, 11:01:35 AM
Lloyd
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Post by: Goldeneye on January 01, 2005, 03:51:49 AM
Helena Huts?
Brittany Buildings?
Donna Duplex?
Selena Semi-Detached Houses?
I ask you.
Post by: Knives on January 01, 2005, 04:02:59 AM
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Post by: melonie_charm on January 01, 2005, 05:02:33 AM
As Tiffany has always been a 'player', and the 'mileage factor' in most Ontario strip clubs being much higher than most American clubs, it is arguable that Tiffany saw no financial advantage whatsoever in pursuing implants any larger than the 800cc (or so) replacement implants she already had. However, with Tiffany's new affiliation with Starr Productions, it's entirely possible that she now has a reason to pursue pumping her boobs back up to their former glory ! But that recent picture taken with Elizabeth would certainly indicate that if Tiffany did have her boobs redone recently, that she again got implants of around an 800cc rating, which are the largest that are readily available and affordable in the US and Canada.
Post by: Goldeneye on January 01, 2005, 06:08:14 AM
Post by: MasterDragonfly on January 03, 2005, 08:06:15 PM
Penelope Puptents?
Erica Edifices?
Ingrid Igloos? (Obligatory Canada reference)
Daphne Downsized?
...
ObHumour: Please take these for the lightheartedness intended, and not as any attack on Tiffany.
ObRetrospective: I agree with Goldeneye; TT's looks blew me away when I first saw pics of her in the early 90's and continued to amaze me as she continued to grow. At the time I was always amazed and mesmerized by her surgically enhanced plentitude. I don't know who her surgeon was, but I hope he got his share of accolades.
Post by: ninjrk on January 04, 2005, 07:39:47 PM
I'm really suprised at the skimpy number of photosets. If that's all of the sets that they have, why not just have her site be one of their gateway sites like Dianepoppos.com or some such into Scoreland? But they have 39 photosets up at Scoremag.com, so that can't be it.
I guess I've just always associated the Score sites as being great values for the money. But this? Pheh. For those who've been members of the site, is this normal content or (hoping against hope) is there some formatting problem that's only taking me to the first page of photosets?
Matt
Post by: Whink on January 04, 2005, 08:46:15 PM
Perhaps he, or our own amazing knowledge resource Melonie Charm, can shed some light on the situation!
Post by: gube on January 05, 2005, 03:20:00 AM
They have a few videos and picturals and thats it.
As far as I know Angelique, Tawny Peaks, Busty Dusty, Autumn Jade, Sarenna Lee, Chloe Vevrier and Desiraes sites of the Score Group does have no new content. They are just rotating the old photosets. So you can keep some models alive who are actually retired or havent shot for the website for some time.
Post by: Scarface on April 18, 2005, 08:29:07 PM
has anyone seen this movie? just wondering if it's any good.
Post by: Maximus on April 18, 2005, 09:13:00 PM
Post by: BNLsascha on April 19, 2005, 12:03:02 AM
Post by: Blax12 on April 19, 2005, 01:40:16 AM
So we saw some other pornos and we had a...good evening.
Back to the topic: Tiffany was wonderful. Yes she's still a nice looking girl.
A part of me would like to see her get back to her implants and to the good times.
The other part of me is the part which knows that such things are not meant to last. Sometimes you can see some boob queens who became old, some of them are fat...
One of them, Wendy Whoppers, just quit the scene when it was the time to do so.
Probably this is the best thing to do: remember those days, hoping new girls find interesting to get extra big implants.
Thank you Tiffany. You have been good to me. I hope the best for you.
Blax12
P.s. Summer is hot
Post by: Norse on April 19, 2005, 11:48:05 AM
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http://forum.bearchive.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB1&Number=334374&fpart=&PHPSESSID=
Post by: Bill on June 09, 2005, 10:14:01 PM
Bill
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Post by: melonie_charm on June 10, 2005, 03:23:50 AM
Post by: BigFan on June 10, 2005, 07:07:04 AM
For many reasons, I think you are an angel.
BigFan
Post by: bobolio on June 10, 2005, 09:42:13 AM
Post by: Palomine on June 10, 2005, 10:55:10 AM
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Yah it'd be rather unimaginable that someone so skinny had a 70 inch ribcage.
Yes. Come on now! We're all big boys and can admit we understand all those fictionalized measurements for publicity purposes. Mel's guess is probably spot-on.
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Post by: RB on June 10, 2005, 02:16:21 PM
Tiffany was roughly about the size of Traci Topps, possibly a little smaller. She had a thin frame, but fairly broad shoulders.
Traci was 36J, so I'd place Tiffany around 38H or 38I.
As WikiPedia says, it's fairly common for models and dancers to publish misleading measurements, or for magazines to publish wonky sizes to wow readers. Though some appear to make up measurements, a common middle ground is to give what appears to be a bra size (43G for example) but is actually a bra + cup size combined with a bust diameter.
Post by: Bill on June 10, 2005, 02:33:37 PM
It's always nice to see your cantelopes and read your enlightened responses.
Bill
Post by: Dawg on June 10, 2005, 03:29:50 PM
She is Canadian and we use the metric system.
Post by: Agent_Smith on June 10, 2005, 03:50:08 PM
Post by: doggo on June 10, 2005, 04:31:54 PM
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...it probably in cm just around the rib cage. 70 cm is 27 in.
That's a possibility, although it wouldn't fit in with roobarb's estimate of a 38" bra size. I'd tend to go for a 32"-whatever cup, as Tiff surely wasn't as big as all that. 27" round the chest could be consistent with a 32" bra size.
A lot of dogs around here. I hope they don't all start fighting and making a noise.
Post by: Maximus on June 10, 2005, 06:24:48 PM
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I miss when Tiffany use to be huge.
Post by: UncleSam on June 10, 2005, 07:41:55 PM
She was so young and they were incredible. Alas, I miss those days also. 
Post by: Agent_Smith on June 10, 2005, 07:44:43 PM
Quote:That's from my favorite porn too. Damn, she use to have a nice pair.Quote:
I miss when Tiffany use to be huge.
Post by: Tsunami2k on June 10, 2005, 08:05:21 PM
Post by: Norse on June 11, 2005, 04:48:28 AM
Post by: stumbleshoe on June 11, 2005, 08:06:11 AM
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Are you asking what Tiffany's bustline measurement and cup size were when she had her former silicone implants ? My best guess would be about 45" and about an H cup.
Mel,
Any idea what brand/type of implant Tiff had (beyond silicone) ?
My dream has always been to find a 5'4" (or shorter) brunette who wanted to go that size - I may never find the girl, but I might as well be as prepared as possible.
Post by: GA_Matt on June 11, 2005, 09:58:14 AM
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I still remember my visit to a Ottawa club back in 1989 and this young girl of about 18 named Tiffany Towers came out and everyone gasped !!! The whole place was in awe including me!
Which Club was that at???
Post by: melonie_charm on June 11, 2005, 10:23:55 AM
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Any idea what brand/type of implant Tiff had (beyond silicone) ?
Given the timing, there is a strong probability that Tiff's implants were made by Dow Silicone before the early 90's lawsuits got into full swing. Remember that prior to the Dow lawsuits (1992-3?), it was not only possible but downright simple and affordable for American girls to obtain just about any size Dow Silicone implants they wanted from any US plastic surgeon who was willing to put them in. After the lawsuits and damage awards, the FDA banned silicone implants and established strict testing criteria for saline implants. This eventually took US made but low sales volume large saline implants off the table as well (due to potential $100,000+ FDA approval testing costs for each different sized implant, versus a very low projected number of huge implants to be sold each year over which those testing costs would have to be recouped).
It's also interesting but a bit frustrating to note that, because of changes in the economics of the huge boob industry over the last few years, that Tiff has not chosen to pursue having her current 800cc (guess) implants replaced with huge custom made implants again. Again this comes back to the huge boob business migrating away from 'show' business and heavily towards 'sex' business. Tiff never did have any problem doing XXX or escorting in the past, and her apparent choice not to invest in implants larger than her current ones is testament to where the real money is to be found in this industry today !
Post by: UncleSam on June 11, 2005, 11:47:52 AM
Post by: Norse on June 11, 2005, 11:54:01 AM
http://www.starrproductions.biz/pages/tiffany.html
http://www.starrproductions.biz/pages/newspic.html
Post by: MaxBigfoot on June 11, 2005, 11:58:58 AM
Post by: ZoD on June 11, 2005, 01:05:30 PM
Thats heresy isnt it?
Please throw those flaming stones nicely.
Post by: Argyle on June 11, 2005, 03:15:19 PM
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Post by: GeneralONeill on June 11, 2005, 10:40:26 PM
Quote:Quote:That's from my favorite porn too. Damn, she use to have a nice pair.Quote:
I miss when Tiffany use to be huge.
What is the name of this movie...and where can you get it from??
Post by: Agent_Smith on June 11, 2005, 10:56:44 PM
Quote:Booberalla is what it's called.Quote:Quote:That's from my favorite porn too. Damn, she use to have a nice pair.Quote:
I miss when Tiffany use to be huge.
What is the name of this movie...and where can you get it from??
Post by: Argyle on June 12, 2005, 06:56:18 AM
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I don't know if you notice, but I do believe that is a morph. It has "shadow" down there in the lower left.
Was picked up from a newsgroup. In newsgroups, it is customary for the poster to "claim" a photo he/she may have scanned by stamping a name on it. No indication that is a morph. I have three different versions of that picture, all the same, and I don't think all three could have been morphed, for what it's worth.
Post by: Lesbian Bob on June 12, 2005, 10:22:32 AM
Post by: GA_Matt on June 12, 2005, 02:56:45 PM
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The club in Ottawa was Fanny's on Bank street, which is no longer. None of the current clubs are anything like that one.
Ahh, Fanny's Cabaret I saw Valerie Fields there way back when. I used to go there, but Started going to Pigale/Barefax later... just a nicer place ya know?
It closed a few years ago (about 6-7?) and re-opened in the market I think as the Oasis, and opened again as Fanny's but I haven't had time (nor cash and leave from my GF) to look around. Truth be told, I haven't had the inclination either.
Post by: Stioup on June 12, 2005, 03:13:00 PM
Post by: Norse on June 12, 2005, 04:48:19 PM
http://www.starrproductions.biz/store/catalog/Faster-Pussycat-Fuck-Fuck-p-18258.html
Post by: Shakem on January 08, 2006, 02:53:47 PM
) correctly she has had three seperate augmentations:1) Just before first appearances and most likely also in the great pic by UncleSam
. Perfect rack, only indication of implants is in retouched pix and in the Girls of Daytona vid where scars are visible.2) About 2 years after the first one. Near-perfect rack but bigger and in some poses implants are visible.
3) Again a couple of years later. Very big boobs but in most pix and vids implants are to clear to my liking.
In '98 I was so lucky to run into Tiff ("Do you want a dance?") in the Brass Rail / Toronto during a business trip. She gave me a total of 10 magnificent lap dances on 2 visits and she really was very nice as a person and looking very good! She had had her reduction a couple of months before and a few months later she made a reappearance in Score.
I was pleasantly surprised to read she is back in business one more time and she still looks great! Her best however still comes from the early days with sets like Yellow Bikini, California Girl, Blue Bath Tub and the Girls of Daytona and GBBE vids.
My 2 cents.
Post by: Maximus on January 08, 2006, 03:13:15 PM
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I still remember my visit to a Ottawa club back in 1989 and this young girl of about 18 named Tiffany Towers came out and everyone gasped !!! The whole place was in awe including me!
Was Tiffany 100% natural or enhanced in this pic? Would she have had implants at age 18?
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Post by: pulp on January 08, 2006, 04:03:00 PM
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I still remember my visit to a Ottawa club back in 1989
UncleSam, I used to be a regular at ALL the major strip clubs in Ottawa.
I have a polaroid of myself, Merilyn Mellons and some young auburn haired beauty who toured with her. This was at Fanny's, on Bank Street, where Gene Simmons' main squeeze, Shannon Tweed, started out. Boy am I showing my age, eh HIN!
Post by: Palomine on January 09, 2006, 10:45:14 AM
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Post by: GeneralOnx on January 09, 2006, 06:54:57 PM
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I miss when Tiffany use to be huge.
Dose anyone know where I can get this video at? Ive seen it before here at the BEA but I dont remember where.
Post by: SteveIce on January 09, 2006, 10:54:44 PM
Post by: TheRover on January 10, 2006, 06:56:49 AM
Post by: Jack59 on January 10, 2006, 08:24:34 AM
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I miss when Tiffany use to be huge.
I think we all do.
My three favorite slim-and-stacked Goddesses during the 90s were Pandora, Tiffany and Dusty. I was fortunate enough to meet Pandora, but I never got the chance with Tiffany and Dusty. Now all three are gone and all we have are the memories.
Post by: Good_Grip on January 10, 2006, 11:27:17 AM
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Any of you guys seen the movie Tiffany did with Shane and Seymour? That was a pretty wild flick. Looked like Tiff had a pretty good buzz going on for most of her scenes but in my book, it is a classic.
I think I have it in my collection somewhere. Yes, it was a great flick.
Post by: thom on January 10, 2006, 03:39:59 PM
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Does anyone know what Tiffany Towers real size was? Her website lists her as 70FFF. She might have been a FFF, but I don't think she had 70 inch breasts.
The bra-size and bustline are different things. A bra size looks like 32G and the 32 means the inches of the underbustline !! and NOT THE BUSTLINE.
>> The bustline alone says nothing about the real size of the breast and how it looks.
All that means:
A woman with an underbust line of 32 inches and a bustline of 42 inches wears a 32G bra and not a 42G.
And the 70FFF, you saw, is right. These are metric stats.Tiff´s underbustline is 70 cm (28 inches) witha bustline of 103 cm (40 inches).
So the stats of Tiff are:
underbustline : 28"
bustline : 40"
bra size of Tiff: 28H
Post by: Maximus on February 04, 2006, 01:11:18 PM
Trying to find the clip, anyone here have it ?
Post by: funbird on February 04, 2006, 01:13:23 PM
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Post by: AgentDee on February 04, 2006, 01:16:54 PM
Post by: DTM on February 04, 2006, 01:20:53 PM
to be so common at the beginning of older porn vids ?
Either way it would be a great find and a piece of her history.
Thanks
You sort of beat me to it AgentDee
Post by: DEEDEEDELUXX on February 04, 2006, 01:36:11 PM
I remember seeing it on late night t.v, she was doing a treadmill thing, for a phonesex line, she was very hot, damn shame she was'nt the girl on the other end of the phone, rather a 300lbs fatty,or like the phone sex lady on bevis and Butthead. Dee
Post by: GA_Matt on February 04, 2006, 04:24:21 PM
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or like the phone sex lady on bevis and Butthead. Dee
What's wrong with listening to someone's butt?
Post by: Googie on February 04, 2006, 04:44:56 PM
Post by: Shakem on February 04, 2006, 04:46:24 PM
Couple of days.
Post by: Liam on February 04, 2006, 05:31:48 PM
Post by: RDaneel on February 04, 2006, 07:13:46 PM
hxxp://rapidshare.de/files/12582544/1900TV.mpeg.html
Clip is 1.5Mb and about 30sec.
RD
Post by: SteveIce on February 05, 2006, 12:25:30 AM
Post by: xenon on February 05, 2006, 12:51:35 PM
I was having issues with the mpeg version, so I converted it to Divx and not only did it end up much smaller at 288K, it also looks better to me for some reason. The compression blocks seem smaller. Anyways, now it plays smoothly for me so I thought I would post it in case others were having issues with the mpeg version as well. Thanks for posting it RDaneel.
Post by: Maximus on February 05, 2006, 02:46:34 PM
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Try:
<a href="hxxp://rapidshare.de/files/12582544/1900TV.mpeg.html" target="_blank">hxxp://rapidshare.de/files/12582544/1900TV.mpeg.html</a>
Clip is 1.5Mb and about 30sec.
RD
Thank you, great find! Not to sound like an ungrateful, spoiled brat, but does anyone have the entire commercial with audio? The best part of the spot is at the end as she walks towards tha camera -- she sticks her boobs forward and coos "girls like me are hard to catch"
I used to go nuts everytime I saw the commercial and did not have the VCR ready
Post by: RDaneel on February 05, 2006, 06:05:20 PM
The clip I posted is all I have. If it was longer than 30sec (which considering the content and target audience probably was) then I'd like to see it too.
Post by: Charles on April 09, 2006, 02:42:26 AM
Post by: mcgarp on April 09, 2006, 02:57:32 AM
Post by: Tman on April 09, 2006, 09:02:49 AM
Tman
Post by: RB on April 19, 2006, 12:52:32 AM
Man, this is some of the wildest, filthiest stuff you'll ever see Tiffany do. Unfortunately, her boobs are much smaller and have some ugly reduction scars running from the nipple downwards - not good. And she has those horrible tan lines that some people seem to find sexy, but I personally think look horrible.
Despite this, she's awesome in it - this is much harder than anything I can remember seeing her in. She starts off by fucking a black dude with the most enormous cock - I'd bet it was about 10-11". She rides him for a while, then sucks him off (sometimes balls-deep) - doing a serious bit of deep-throating and gagging.
Next, the guy gives her his massive member up the ass (she climbs on top in a sort-or reverse-cowgirl routine). It looks really painful.
For the finale of the first scene, he bends her over the settee and puts his cock in her ass, then really pounds the life out of it. It's pretty amwesome - God only knows how she manages to take it right to the hilt at the pace he gives it to her. She genuinely looks in pain - but does a fair bit of bitch-talking and moaning throughout.
He pulls out of her ass and cums all over her face (why, oh why do they always make a jump-cut before the cum-shot?). The cameraman makes a comment about her having cum on her "big titties", and she smiles, replying "they're not so big".
The cameraman wanders outside, and finds a guy and a girl by the pool. The girl is getting screwed doggie-style - she's a bit of a talker, and her routine gets annoying after a while "oh, fuck my pussy" etc. etc.)
A few minutes later, Tiffany wanders out with a towel around her and intervenes, sucking the guys cock from behind and fingering the girl. The girl has a knack for squirting, and on at least 3 occassions, she squirts all over Tiffany's face while she's either sucking the guy off or licking his asshole. Tiffany does a series bit of licking the guy's asshole in this segment.
The scene rounds off with Tiffany taking another ass-pounding from this new guy.
I didn't bother with the rest of the video - Tiffany wasn't in the remaining scenes.
It's well worth it, but sad to see those really amazing tits looking like saddle-bags.
Post by: funbird on April 19, 2006, 10:55:09 AM
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Post by: Cel on April 19, 2006, 01:55:30 PM
Post by: GodzillaFan on April 19, 2006, 03:53:35 PM
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"Seymour and Shane Mount Tiffany" is THE best Tiff movie.
Totally agree with that. Words can't describe how hot she was in it.
Post by: Feral on April 19, 2006, 09:47:58 PM
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Her squishably soft skin quality is what makes her one of the best ever silicon-queens. Just perfect skin.
Exactly. I have never seen another super implanted woman that had such a natural consistency to her. I wish others would try to duplicate her instead of going for the biggest possible, stretched taut to the limit look.
Post by: Goldeneye on April 20, 2006, 12:49:54 AM
Post by: Blax12 on April 20, 2006, 02:33:39 AM
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"Seymour and Shane Mount Tiffany" is THE best Tiff movie.
Totally agree with that. Words can't describe how hot she was in it.
Me too. Tommyknockers wasn't bad either, but Mount Tiffany...
Does anyone know where I can download it? I only find places to buy the DVD, but I'd rather to download it.
Blax12
Post by: Good_Grip on April 20, 2006, 10:57:57 AM
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Post by: EroBBuster on April 20, 2006, 01:39:46 PM
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Post by: tomtrend on November 08, 2006, 11:22:34 AM
Tom
Post by: Maximus on April 04, 2007, 10:17:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DlXBXT47cE
Post by: sander815 on April 05, 2007, 09:49:11 AM
and this one also
Post by: xenon on April 05, 2007, 06:42:40 PM
Post by: lactose_tolerant on April 05, 2007, 08:22:17 PM
lactose 'please let me know when i can be this much help again' tolerant
Post by: Rad on April 05, 2007, 09:35:34 PM
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Please help me find out the title of this movie, and a full clip also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DlXBXT47cE
The guy looks like he is in many of her videos on her website: www.tiffanytowers.com
Post by: Dr_Fashizzle on April 05, 2007, 09:49:24 PM
Post by: xenon on April 06, 2007, 08:15:26 AM
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I have it split into 9 pieces....
Don't suppose you know the title. I see it's not part of the filename. But maybe you know from some other means.
Post by: Scarface on April 06, 2007, 08:18:21 AM
Quote:Quote:
Please help me find out the title of this movie, and a full clip also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DlXBXT47cE
The guy looks like he is in many of her videos on her website: www.tiffanytowers.com
yea, she was dating that guy at the time, once they broke up she started doing all the other guys in her movies
Post by: Rad on April 06, 2007, 10:00:13 AM
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I have it split into 9 pieces....
You say you have split it into 9 pieces, but where can we get the 9 pieces? I would be interested in seeing this movie. Thanks.
Post by: Dean_Remsey on April 06, 2007, 01:10:30 PM
Dean
Post by: RDaneel on April 06, 2007, 05:48:46 PM
RD
Post by: Dr_Fashizzle on April 07, 2007, 08:56:11 PM
The internet.
Post by: Dr_Fashizzle on April 07, 2007, 09:15:35 PM
If you want to research an adult video, try browsing the reviews at iafd. They usually describe the movie scene by scene. One may mention a purple suit...
This will get you started:
iafd.com/person.asp?perfid=TTowers&gender=F
(Unfortunately, not too many people have reviewed Tiffany's movie on iafd, so...)
Post by: joeblow on April 27, 2007, 01:39:44 PM
Post by: Chestnuts on April 27, 2007, 04:13:30 PM
I had posted a screenshot and a clip many years ago, might even have been at CJ. Had seen at least two different commercials with Tiffany in it and recorded them to tape, albeit the uhf quality was poor.
Edit:
Here's a screenshot I had posted back in 2002:
Post by: riggo73 on April 27, 2007, 05:19:47 PM
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I am going to go off topic for a second. Do you guys remember the video tapes that were out in the early to mid 90's that would have girls like Tiffany Towers, Kayla Kleevage, Lisa Lipps, Wendy Whoppers, etc. They were like 2 to 4 hour tapes. I am trying to find them on DVD now and I have been having a hard time finding them. Just looking to add to the collection. Collosal Combos, maybe that was the title, I can't remember. Any help would be great.
Post by: Chestnuts on May 03, 2007, 10:42:30 PM
Edit: also found Kerri Kendall winning the Miss Mission Beach bikini contest before she became a Playboy Playmate.
Post by: Chestnuts on May 04, 2007, 04:04:54 AM
http://rapidshare.com/files/29401583/TffTwrs1.mp4
Post by: joeblow on May 07, 2007, 12:24:16 AM
thanks a lot
Oh, and thanks to anyone else who tried to help also. Much appreciated
Post by: DJPFC on May 07, 2007, 11:34:29 AM
Nice job, Chestnuts.
Post by: TheZookie007 on May 07, 2007, 05:04:13 PM
Post by: ELESIS on September 24, 2007, 04:30:02 PM
The only links to Score material that we allow are to the home-pages of Score sites. I've adjusted your link accordingly.
Post by: Inherency on September 24, 2007, 05:28:46 PM
Post by: DJPFC on September 25, 2007, 12:46:11 AM
Post by: tomtrend on January 20, 2008, 03:49:49 PM
http://flickr.com/photos/brettlove/884013569/
Post by: c293716 on January 20, 2008, 04:17:46 PM
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Post by: tomtrend on January 20, 2008, 05:25:56 PM
Mod edit to remove Score image. -Pal
Post by: turbo on January 20, 2008, 06:41:44 PM
Physically, she is still a winner with me!
Post by: BarnacleBill on January 20, 2008, 07:37:30 PM
Truly an angel. Intelligent, flirty, sexy, incredible physical shape.
It was one of my life's dreams to see her dance in person in Toronto when she was a dancer with the gigantic implants... alas I never made it up there.
"Gather ye rosebuds while ye may..."
But, I agree, she is still gorgeous. Its just a shame that, apparently the negatives of having huge boobs outweighted (no pun intended) the positives.
Post by: Goldeneye on January 20, 2008, 11:41:41 PM
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Post by: Blax12 on January 21, 2008, 09:19:41 AM
In her years, she was one of my 2 favourites, being Wendy the other one.
oooohhhh, the wet dreams about Tiffany...
Post by: Reaver on January 21, 2008, 09:33:00 AM
Post by: MrEff on January 21, 2008, 10:14:02 AM
It's a shame but as long as she's healthy and happy....
-MrEff-
(but for the love of god keep this thread away from Chelsea)
Post by: ilovelinsey on January 21, 2008, 04:54:08 PM
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Goldeneye said:
Still gorgeous. But looking at her now just makes me sad.
But she was getting rid of implants, unlike Linsey (see attachment) who is guilty of self-violation. My original, more apt, terminology was censored.
Post by: g0ddmode on January 21, 2008, 07:09:30 PM
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ilovelinsey said:Quote:
Goldeneye said:
Still gorgeous. But looking at her now just makes me sad.
But she was getting rid of implants, unlike Linsey (see attachment) who is guilty of self-violation. My original, more apt, terminology was censored.
@ilovelinsey - Do you have anymore photos of Linsey, after the fact?
Post by: ilovelinsey on January 21, 2008, 10:25:25 PM
Sorry could not post because I was limited in the size I was allowed to attach.
Post by: gmantwo on January 21, 2008, 10:51:56 PM
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Post by: MasterDragonfly on February 18, 2008, 03:45:21 PM
Post by: boobmaniac on April 09, 2008, 04:42:05 PM
http://youporn.com/watch/5022
Post by: DTM on April 09, 2008, 06:10:56 PM
It is one of her best though...
thank you
Post by: RB on April 10, 2008, 03:33:48 AM
Post by: boobmaniac on April 10, 2008, 11:08:12 AM
I'm not that huge fan who knows all about her and her past work...
Sorry again for the false announcement...
Post by: rtpoe on April 10, 2008, 06:52:09 PM
Thanks for finding and sharing.
Post by: TF951 on May 08, 2008, 05:28:26 PM
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Post by: mcgarp on May 22, 2008, 03:34:10 AM
Post by: zappfra on May 22, 2008, 04:28:41 AM
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mcgarp said:
Can it really be called a "bump" if its only been a day?
Impatient Bump maybe
Whilst on the subject though, both Tiffany & Letha Weapons had reductions, and then re entered the business again. Can anyone think of any more who have done this.
Post by: MasterDragonfly on May 22, 2008, 09:25:18 AM
At the time, she had returned to Canada, and either didn't want to return to the USA to get it replaced, or it wasn't an option, or.... I'm thinking of another possibility here, but really don't want to speculate.
I remember e-mailing her many years ago, back when she was still big. I'd written maybe 4-5 paragraphs of adulation, and she shot back something a little abrasive, saying not to waste her time with long e-mails. Ah well.
Post by: TF951 on May 22, 2008, 02:29:25 PM
Post by: Tugboatcap on May 22, 2008, 03:26:47 PM
Then again, I'm heavily drugged right now...
TugboatCap!
Post by: 3deroticer on May 22, 2008, 04:08:10 PM
Post by: Palomine on May 23, 2008, 11:57:20 AM
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TF951 said:
No not impatient just was like 800 views and no response so I bumped it sorry.
Dear Lord Almighty: PLEASE instruct your flock so that they understand that there is almost NO relationship between the number of views a post or attachment has received and how popular it or that particular subject might be.
Thanks.
Post by: TF951 on May 24, 2008, 04:47:59 PM
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Palomine said:Quote:
TF951 said:
No not impatient just was like 800 views and no response so I bumped it sorry.
Dear Lord Almighty: PLEASE instruct your flock so that they understand that there is almost NO relationship between the number of views a post or attachment has received and how popular it or that particular subject might be.
Thanks.
Why the sarcasm? I cant imagine you speaking to beshine or antionette like that. I wish we were all treated as equals.
Post by: sidewalkpsycho on May 24, 2008, 04:56:16 PM
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TF951 said:
Why the sarcasm? I cant imagine you speaking to beshine or antionette like that. I wish we were all treated as equals.
Post a few pictures of your tits, and everyone will be nicer.
Post by: Palomine on May 24, 2008, 08:24:29 PM
Why the sarcasm? I cant imagine you speaking to beshine or antionette like that. I wish we were all treated as equals.
Your 'can't imagine you speaking..." comment is amusing: you AGAIN make a silly and unfounded presumption... that I'd not admonish a user for what seems to be newbie impatience simply because they're (supposedly) female. That's ANOTHER mistaken assumption on your part... had you been here longer you'd know that too.
Grow a thicker skin... if you take such offense at a joke poking you (gently) for making a silly assumption (about post counts) then you're probably not cut out for forum life.
Post by: zappfra on May 24, 2008, 09:39:55 PM
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Palomine said:
Why the sarcasm? I cant imagine you speaking to beshine or antionette like that. I wish we were all treated as equals.
Your 'can't imagine you speaking..." comment is amusing: you AGAIN make a silly and unfounded presumption... that I'd not admonish a user for what seems to be newbie impatience simply because they're (supposedly) female. That's ANOTHER mistaken assumption on your part... had you been here longer you'd know that too.
Grow a thicker skin... if you take such offense at a joke poking you (gently) for making a silly assumption (about post counts) then you're probably not cut out for forum life.
Not like you Palomone to be sarcastic.
And talking in the third person, considering you are the "Lord Almighty" around here
Changing an old saying, The jokes on the other foot.
Post by: Palomine on May 24, 2008, 10:10:41 PM
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Not like you Palomone to be sarcastic.
And talking in the third person, considering you are the "Lord Almighty" around here
Changing an old saying, The jokes on the other foot.
I've been known to use sarcasm more than rarely but not quite frequently... as a tool to achieve a desired goal (to make a point). I don't personally consider forum mods to be 'lords' ...our 'power' is extraordinarily finite and completely meaningless in any real-world context of course. If however, mods are 'lords' of any sort, well then... I'm only one of several around here.
A guy... ANY guy... after seeing the same silly assumption publicly proclaimed over and over (and over, etc...) again (the assumption that the number of views a post gets has any direct link to how popular the content of that post might actually be) can only hold his tongue so long. I've long since reached that line, so when I see someone (ANYone, regardless of their claimed gender) do it, I generally feel the need to point out the futile and mistaken nature of that assumption.
What's that about feet now?
Post by: mcgarp on May 26, 2008, 12:36:09 AM
Post by: zappfra on May 26, 2008, 01:48:07 AM
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Palomine said:Quote:
Not like you Palomone to be sarcastic.
And talking in the third person, considering you are the "Lord Almighty" around here
Changing an old saying, The jokes on the other foot.
I don't personally consider forum mods to be 'lords' ...our 'power' is extraordinarily finite and completely meaningless in any real-world context of course. If however, mods are 'lords' of any sort, well then... I'm only one of several around here.
A guy... ANY guy... after seeing the same silly assumption publicly proclaimed over and over (and over, etc...) again (the assumption that the number of views a post gets has any direct link to how popular the content of that post might actually be) can only hold his tongue so long. I've long since reached that line, so when I see someone (ANYone, regardless of their claimed gender) do it, I generally feel the need to point out the futile and mistaken nature of that assumption.
What's that about feet now?
Answered brilliantly as I would have expected.
Post by: TF951 on May 26, 2008, 11:27:25 AM
Post by: Palomine on May 26, 2008, 11:43:39 AM
Quote:
TF951 said:
wow ok. I didnt take offense to anything I was just saying the whole sarcasim wasnt needed. but I guess you feel it is. cool. gj. now anybody want to stay on subject of the thread.
Back to Tiffany, a really old pic:
Post by: homevintner on May 27, 2008, 05:04:56 PM
Post by: Palomine on May 27, 2008, 07:36:02 PM
Anyway, digging through my own stuff of her, and avoiding anything that looks remotely Score-like, I happened upon this morph (allowed, even if based on SG content) by Cheshire Cat. Remember him?
Post by: pedonbio on May 27, 2008, 10:04:54 PM
Quote:
Palomine said:
I don't personally consider forum mods to be 'lords' ...our 'power' is extraordinarily finite and completely meaningless in any real-world context of course. If however, mods are 'lords' of any sort, well then... I'm only one of several around here.
I'm a mod on a couple of unrelated sites and, IMHO, it is about the most thankless task on earth. Aside from eradicating spam, every decision gets picked apart either from above or below.
In fact, I'm talking myself into quitting, dammit...
Post by: Good_Grip on May 28, 2008, 12:20:18 PM
Post by: Palomine on November 01, 2008, 04:46:42 PM
Post by: Verbotenbruste on November 02, 2008, 10:06:34 AM
Post by: TF951 on November 11, 2008, 08:15:37 PM
Post by: SteveIce on November 12, 2008, 01:25:48 AM
Post by: Kopy Kat on July 23, 2010, 10:05:45 PM
....and then Janet says, "don't it always seem to go, that you don't know whatcha got til it's..."
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1336/884013569_15a78016c8.jpg)
Post by: Palomine on July 24, 2010, 01:14:00 PM
Post by: solvegas on July 24, 2010, 09:03:14 PM
Pal adds/replies: yes, her oral skills were/are impressive. I recall (and posted about here years ago) a TT vid of her with some guy on a brass bed... with eyes closed, she adhered her cheek against the guy's abdomen and with her mouth open, he repeatedly thrusts down her throat over and over while she placidly (and apparently effortlessly) receives every inch over and over. Of course, plenty of hc starlets can do this, but few have the total combination of a sultry face, fantastic implants, tiny waist and rounded derriere that TT had.
Post by: SamV on July 26, 2010, 10:18:26 AM
While there are a number of trolls floating about these sites who have usurped her name Tiffany is genuinely on them, and seems quite perturbed over the trolls who pretend to be her. >:(
Here's a link to her twitter account: http://twitter.com/1tiffanytowers (http://twitter.com/1tiffanytowers)
You can also do a search for her on **24** and her link should pop up first in the results listing as her account has been verified by FB as an Official **27**.® account.
BTW if anyone has any spare cash and is interested Tiffany is currentLEE selling all of her feature costumes.
Post by: DJPFC on July 26, 2010, 10:33:50 AM
Post by: Real on July 26, 2010, 01:39:45 PM
Apologies if this is old news, but she's finally doing anal hc now... even back with the big implants, a large part of her appeal was that pretty face and round derrière, so it's nice to see it put to use, even sans the funbags. ;)
agreed. her newer movies are great, even with the smallish boobs by comparison. still a great performer, still a great ass which she now takes it in...
Post by: coyote on July 27, 2010, 12:24:51 PM
Post by: Chelsea74 on July 27, 2010, 12:26:06 PM
C.
Post by: TheZookie007 on July 28, 2010, 02:10:33 AM
Post by: big_is_good on July 31, 2010, 01:27:59 AM
I miss the old pair.
I do too! But she still has that awesome petite body and I'm sure her oral talent hasn't slipped at all.
Post by: toomuch on August 09, 2010, 03:10:26 PM
Perhaps she's not a nice person, but I'd still spend my allowance to snuggle with that.
Post by: DJPFC on August 09, 2010, 04:21:45 PM
I miss the old pair.
You and me, both. She was without a doubt the hottest of the big boob feature gals of that era and her breasts were simply amazing.
Post by: RB on August 10, 2010, 07:13:15 AM
Last I heard, she had finally, finally retired and was working for an animal shelter.
Post by: pedonbio on August 10, 2010, 01:56:32 PM
I miss the old pair.
Me, too, but they are still noteworthy:
Post by: Brooke H on August 10, 2010, 02:19:10 PM
Her answer was something along the lines of '..I was young and stupid.'
Post by: pedonbio on August 10, 2010, 02:40:11 PM
I read an interview with her once, the question of why did you go so big came up.
Her answer was something along the lines of '..I was young and stupid.'
Hey! She and I have something in common: Why did I marry the ex-mrs.-pedonbios #1 and #2?
Post by: Palomine on August 10, 2010, 02:43:24 PM
She did a film after getting her boobs reduced (scars and all) called 'Deep Tush', in which she performs one of the most intense anal scenes with an extremely well-hung black dude that I have ever seen. This guy gives her all 10" full-pelt over a settee. After that, Tiffanny heads out to the pool area, where another girl is getting stiffened, and Tiffanny spends much of her time being squirted on by the other girl. Quite an amazing change for her.
Last I heard, she had finally, finally retired and was working for an animal shelter.
I think I've seen the first part of this... in the annals of anal ;) I'd say it was fairly good but not all-time-great. What DOES make it special of course is that it's Tiffany getting skewered... and she seems quite adept at it. She's always been a fave of mine regardless of my usual preference for nats... from a physique and face POV she's always been amazing. Great control of her gag reflex too, which is also endearing. Small, low-rez cap from the vid RB described is attached:
Post by: ninjrk on August 15, 2010, 10:55:24 AM
You and me, both. She was without a doubt the hottest of the big boob feature gals of that era and her breasts were simply amazing.
Whoo boy, those could be fighting words! I will confess, she is a very close second to SaRenna. . . In all seriousness, I do regret you guys weren't about when she was in her heyday, The photoshoots you could have gotten off her!
Matt
Post by: pick on August 28, 2010, 11:06:02 PM
Post by: pedonbio on November 09, 2010, 04:33:24 PM
Post by: DJPFC on November 09, 2010, 05:39:32 PM
Post by: gOOber on November 09, 2010, 05:55:47 PM
Post by: pedonbio on November 10, 2010, 08:20:46 PM
Post by: pedonbio on November 12, 2010, 04:20:17 PM
Yeah, her humanitarian work is really amazing. She's totally dedicated to it. Pretty incredible.
Yes. Canada it ain't:
Post by: ayrton on November 13, 2010, 07:15:46 AM
Post by: MasterDragonfly on November 13, 2010, 10:11:27 AM
She responded, but it had nothing to do with what I'd said or asked. I don't remember the exact verbiage, but she had an edge to her response. Apparently she thought I'd been particularly verbose, and felt it had been a complete waste of her time.
Post by: Offline on November 13, 2010, 01:34:14 PM
Post by: Mojo24 on November 16, 2010, 08:46:10 PM
She had the best enhanced boobs of all time, IMO. They were so soft and realistic, yet firm and amazingly round and huge. Killed me when she took them out. Ugh.
totally agree DJ ... remember that g/g scene with a young kim chambers>> she was incredible!!
PS DJ ... slightly off topic for a moment but is there a thread describing how YOU got into glamour photog? I just bought myself a D7 and have been into photog my whole life (taken pics for friends, gfs, weddings always for free because i have a solid career "day job") ... but would love to start working part-time on some glamour work
Post by: 3deroticer on November 17, 2010, 03:24:10 AM
Let me start by saying I thought she was absolutely hot with her last set of implants and when I first saw her before she went mega-big. From things that she has apparently said in interviews after leaving the adult biz, she seems pretty bitter about many things. If her personal life experiences have been the root of it then I can understand it. I just seem to pick up something else on the radar that I just can't pinpoint that doesn't make me want to personally get to know her; if you know what I mean. That's my own opinion.Several things that would make her bitter. She is not Americans, and so she had issue of traveling the states, she also face like many big boob star a backlash of the strip joint legal limitation, where big boob star were fewer in between appearing on the scene. Particular to New York **94** laws in getting permits at strip joint. The 80's were the best years for strippers. Also she is a liberal and very active in helping those that are less off, and move to Costa Rica. But I have to tell you it is my experience that those that loves animal and children, are the best to hang with. I see tons of photo of her with people and children and a big grin everywhere she goes. I don't see the bitterness side of her at all. SaRenna Lee think she is fantastic and consider her as one of her best friend in the biz.
Post by: DruulEmpire on November 17, 2010, 06:31:40 AM
And Offline: loving the Nigella avatar. 8)
Post by: joneric on November 17, 2010, 08:29:03 AM
I'm glad to see Tiffany has moved on and is happy and will always cherish those images of her in her modeling prime, with those enormous tits and gorgeous face (and that great little ass, too).
JE
Post by: Gregpry on November 17, 2010, 02:25:57 PM
Post by: Chelsea74 on January 12, 2011, 09:57:00 AM
:o :o :o :o :o
C.
Post by: Bondo on January 13, 2011, 11:00:12 PM
Post by: Rentahero on January 14, 2011, 12:16:43 PM
Even when she had the big implants in I'm not sure if she would have gotten $15 a minute for private dances.
Post by: pedonbio on January 14, 2011, 01:58:27 PM
Just sayin'.
Post by: omar1978 on January 15, 2011, 06:11:32 AM
Post by: Chelsea74 on January 15, 2011, 06:12:47 AM
Post by: sidewalkpsycho on January 15, 2011, 06:28:45 AM
Post by: volcano_ten on January 15, 2011, 10:58:50 AM
At 14.95/minute I don't know
LOL! And who spend this money?? 10 minutes 150 $??
20 minutes 300 $? Come on guys...
Post by: mastert on January 15, 2011, 05:04:57 PM
Post by: Kojain on January 15, 2011, 08:36:15 PM
Post by: sirreal on January 15, 2011, 09:20:08 PM
$15 a minute is ridiculous. This isn't a lap dance Tiffany. She's just taking advantage of men who have so much money they don't know what to do with it.
Even when she had the big implants in I'm not sure if she would have gotten $15 a minute for private dances.
Or people who are obsessed with her enough to spend their savings on her. Its sorta disgusting she takes advantage of her fans like that. Then again, much of her fans probably don't even know shes around, or her old ones have moved on.\
Cocaine is nature's way of letting you know you have more money than good sense.
Just sayin'.
Probably a lot more fun to do than staring at some girls fake boobs in a chat room as well. If you're at a party at least.
Post by: TheZookie007 on January 16, 2011, 02:08:41 AM
Cocaine is nature's way of letting you know you have more money than good sense.Or as Robin Williams would say "Having a cocaine habit is God's way of telling you that you have too much money." :)
Post by: jayjay88 on January 16, 2011, 03:59:10 AM
ridiculous to criticise them 'for taking advantage' etc. Hey...Anyone charges
what they can get for whatever service they provide...if no one is willing to pay,
they reduce their fees...simple.
Tiff was one of my all time faves 20 years ago...fabulous 'cheerleader' looks
with a great bod and killer tits that were fabulously pliable...you hardly see that
these days. But I have to admit when she quit, and then returned with double
DD's or whatever, I was totally turned off. For me she just wasn't the same.
Post by: mlincoln86 on January 16, 2011, 06:39:34 AM
http://imlive.com/live-sex-chat/pornstars/tiffany_towers/?gid=1
:o :o :o :o :o
C.
ridiculous. Maybe if she logged your IP then came to your house to suck your dick, fuck your brains out, sweep your floors, clean your shower curtains and make you a sandwich after.
Post by: Champy on January 16, 2011, 07:33:31 PM
Post by: sirreal on January 16, 2011, 09:17:36 PM
Or as Robin Williams would say "Having a cocaine habit is God's way of telling you that you have too much money." :)
Plenty of poor people addicted to crack and cocaine, I think its gods way of telling you that you're too irresponsible.
Post by: pedonbio on April 30, 2011, 04:20:36 PM
Post by: pedonbio on May 03, 2011, 06:58:22 PM
Post by: TysonWarm on May 03, 2011, 11:37:06 PM
(link removed)
This link wasn't on-topic by any stretch of the definition.
Post by: big_is_good on May 04, 2011, 09:35:30 AM
::) ::) Okay, so technically this isn't news. I'd hit it.
Yes, hit it, I agree completely. She looks fantastic! Still curvy and cute as heck!
Post by: pedonbio on May 05, 2011, 03:09:03 AM
Post by: Palomine on May 05, 2011, 12:30:00 PM
This is a pic from last New Year's Eve. The guy is just weird. He looks like he's trying out for the SNL video, "Jizz in My Pants".
I believe that he is the real-life equivalent of the 'head' of the 'Human Centipad' on the episode of 'South Park' two weeks ago. You know, the Japanese guy who asks Kyle (who's mouth has been surgically attached to the guy's ass) whether Kyle would prefer that he eat the vanilla paste or the plate of cuttlefish and asparagus. Yes, I'm sure that's who it is. ;)
Post by: pedonbio on May 07, 2011, 02:07:24 AM
Post by: Chelsea74 on May 07, 2011, 02:29:53 AM
C.
Post by: Palomine on May 07, 2011, 11:23:19 AM
Then of course her forays into hardcore videos... I enjoyed every single one I saw: her Seymour and Shane stuff, her Score stuff and all of her many appearances on 'compilation' tapes just further cemented the impression she made: the face and body of a super model with enormous (and delightfully soft looking) implants and (apparently) zero gag reflex. What's not to like? ;)
And of course, more recently... when she seemed to retire from modelling/vids for a while... kept on dancing from what I read, after which she returned to modelling and videos with darker hair and smaller breasts (smaller implants or none at all? I dunno). Despite the change, which caused some self-flagellation around here at the time, I still found her to be irresistible, and not simply because she finally started doing some anal in her videos (though that was appreciated too).
In these very recent 'off-the-clock' photos: by the pool, in Africa... she looks so different without makeup. In those photos, she reminds me of how Dawn Knudsen looked in a lot of her photos sans any visible eyeliner, etc... so different yet still so appealing: like a girl-next-door with the body of a top-tier porn star (which is I suppose what these lovely ladies probably are). Personally, I'd like to see Tiffany actually do some modelling/videos like that, just for a change of pace... with minimal makeup and artifice.
But I'm weird that way. ;)
Post by: pedonbio on May 25, 2011, 03:05:11 PM
Post by: itsez on May 27, 2011, 09:16:25 AM
http://imlive.com/live-sex-chat/pornstars/tiffany_towers/?gid=1
;D
She is probably my all time fave btw.
Post by: pedonbio on May 31, 2011, 04:53:32 AM
I don't think anyone has mentioned this so......
http://imlive.com/live-sex-chat/pornstars/tiffany_towers/?gid=1
;D
She is probably my all time fave btw.
Yes. There is a link to it on her blog page.
This is when she was visiting with tomorrow's supper in Costa Rica:
Post by: 3deroticer on September 15, 2011, 01:53:27 PM
Is she a "has been" without her big implants? Personally I would still do her and still looks fine to me, but not as much as she did with the big ole titties. In the boob arena, is there a unspoken rule that she can only go bigger but never backward to where she was?
In Playboy they have often revisited model from the past. Seem to me this would make for a great opportunity and particularly to the one that really sold and finance the company.
Post by: TysonWarm on September 15, 2011, 02:40:50 PM
Post by: solvegas on September 15, 2011, 10:57:28 PM
But, Score should do an issue of big boob stars of the 90s and where they are now. That would be interesting.
I dunno. Some have not aged gracefully and others have destroyed their assets. I think I just want to remember the past as I remember it rather than being disappointed on the present reality. :(
Post by: pedonbio on September 16, 2011, 02:31:42 AM
I have moved to other things. I do not think of myself as a Treasury employee, and I do not regret that.
So has she. She's still kinda fun.
Post by: gOOber on October 01, 2011, 10:58:46 AM
Post by: gonZo on October 01, 2011, 01:10:52 PM
A long time ago I worked for the I.R.S. for about as long as she had huge implants.
I have moved to other things. I do not think of myself as a Treasury employee, and I do not regret that.
So has she. She's still kinda fun.
More than "kinda", I suspect.
Post by: gOOber on October 01, 2011, 01:35:19 PM
Post by: DJPFC on October 01, 2011, 02:31:57 PM
:)Still damn sexy but man I miss her huge ones. She was one of the all-time greatest.
Post by: Palomine on October 01, 2011, 04:20:17 PM
Still damn sexy but man I miss her huge ones. She was one of the all-time greatest.
I agree with this assessment. She was one of the best of all time: in her prime, which some refer to as the 'Golden Age' of our preferred genre, she was always at the very top of any list of the best models. Yes, her outrageous body, gorgeous face and knee-weakening smile all contributed to her appeal, but it was also her personality, which came through in many of her videos.
She's different now... older (we all are) and smaller (than she was) to be sure, but still way desirable to any male mammal with a pulse. Frankly, I'm happily surprised that her breasts look as sweet and shapely as they do... after Busty Dusty (another 'Golden Age' fave) retired her giant implants, her breasts didn't look nearly as good as Tiffany's still do.
Tiffany's one of those women who's going to be 'severely fuckable' for years and years to come... I don't think she can help it and to be honest, in my opinion, it really doesn't have all that much to do with the size of her implants. :)
Post by: BP on October 01, 2011, 08:32:52 PM
I agree with this assessment. She was one of the best of all time: in her prime, which some refer to as the 'Golden Age' of our preferred genre, she was always at the very top of any list of the best models. Yes, her outrageous body, gorgeous face and knee-weakening smile all contributed to her appeal, but it was also her personality, which came through in many of her videos.
She's different now... older (we all are) and smaller (than she was) to be sure, but still way desirable to any male mammal with a pulse. Frankly, I'm happily surprised that her breasts look as sweet and shapely as they do... after Busty Dusty (another 'Golden Age' fave) retired her giant implants, her breasts didn't look nearly as good as Tiffany's still do.
Tiffany's one of those women who's going to be 'severely fuckable' for years and years to come... I don't think she can help it and to be honest, in my opinion, it really doesn't have all that much to do with the size of her implants. :)
Post by: gOOber on October 05, 2011, 08:15:44 PM
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Post by: joeblow on April 02, 2012, 08:46:11 AM
Post by: Palomine on April 02, 2012, 12:26:02 PM
I lost everything. Does anyone still have this one? Thanks
I renamed the extension (change it back to .mpg after you DL it) and attached it to this post. It's the file that Chestnuts put on Rapidshare back in '07 that you asked for.
Post by: Demon on April 03, 2012, 01:12:47 AM
I renamed the extension (change it back to .mpg after you DL it) and attached it to this post. It's the file that Chestnuts put on Rapidshare back in '07 that you asked for.something is wrong with the jpg it will not open for me
That's because it's not a jpg. Please read Palomine's message immediately before yours.
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gonZo
Pal says: yes... I just called it '.jpg' in order to attach it to the forum post... just download it and then edit the extension back to ".mpg" and it will run fine.
Post by: joeblow on April 03, 2012, 02:31:48 AM
Happy to help! :) -Pal
Post by: roberttoddy on December 26, 2012, 11:49:28 PM
Mod edit to remove Score image. -Pal
Post by: Nakhakren on December 27, 2012, 12:09:41 AM
I'm hardly an expert however. Someone with more knowledge of Tiffany and her career might be able to say more.
Post by: solvegas on December 27, 2012, 12:13:44 AM
Post by: FourHooksPlus on December 27, 2012, 12:27:56 AM
As I understand it, part of the reason Tiffany's breasts appeared so soft and 'real' was due to her implants being filled with silicone, rather than saline or other, similar substances. Silicone implants, I'm told, have a consistency that is much closer to actual breast tissue - especially at larger sizes - than other, comparably sized implants.
I'm hardly an expert however. Someone with more knowledge of Tiffany and her career might be able to say more.
I thought it was the opposite: underfilled saline implants as opposed to the overfilled silicone that was the norm for the late-eighties supertitters. Although I likewise defer to someone with more knowledge than I...
Post by: Offline on December 27, 2012, 07:08:27 AM
Post by: solvegas on December 27, 2012, 08:12:07 AM
I think FourHooks is correct on this. If you watch carefully in many of her videos, you can see rippling along the sides of her breasts. Take a good look at the above photo and you can see some rippling on the inside side of her right breast. For the record I loved her squishy monsters and love seeing rippling when it does occur. I wonder if she ever planned on having them pumped up further at some point, but for her own reasons thought she was big enough.
From what I remember one of her implants failed and she was unable to get another of that size or even bigger because DowCorning and other manufacturers stopped their manufacture during the great silicone witch hunt of the late 90's which to this day has made manufacturers stay away from making huge implants even though studies from Harvard, FDA and other sources came to the conclusion that silicone DID NOT cause any of the problems it was blamed on. The FDA still prohibits the huge sizes because deep down there are many in the agency which view women with such proportions with disdain and comptent but conceal it with " scientific " objections. >:(
Post by: Ronnie be good on December 27, 2012, 06:28:27 PM
Post by: roberttoddy on December 27, 2012, 09:17:02 PM
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Post by: solvegas on December 27, 2012, 10:42:22 PM
I did love her tits for that reason (though I do love fake tits for that reason too). I've always wondered, had Tiffany got even bigger, to say Minka or larger size, would her tits keep that natural look, or not?
Impossible to tell. All human beings are unique individuals, with the exception of identical twins and even they can be personality different, and it's hard to tell if she had been able to maintain such a look in a much larger package. What if .... :'(
Post by: Maik on December 28, 2012, 06:08:08 AM
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Post by: maveric9 on January 12, 2013, 07:36:20 PM
Mod edit: this user was permanently banned from our forum for obvious reasons... his post above being a relatively mild example of his offensive behavior. -Pal
Post by: Benji Dude on January 12, 2013, 08:39:22 PM
I have often wondered why Tiffany Towers super huge fake tits were stated as 88 ZZZZ juggs.If her hooter,were so big,would they look like those Farang bitches?Would she complain her tits,knocker threaten small children,adults,buses,air planes,satilites and so on?
There was a time during the 90's when either the big bust models or the publications they appeared in would tweak the ladies bra sizes by using inches for the band size (34, 48...) but get the letter measurement by measuring in centimeters so the difference in letters would be greater for example:
34J (86cm) could become something like 34XXX.
Post by: Booberia on January 15, 2013, 08:25:24 PM
Post by: Eliza D on January 15, 2013, 09:24:58 PM
Post by: SamV on January 16, 2013, 08:09:37 AM
She does maintain a presence on F*cebook and Twitter.
Here's a pic she posted on there in 2009(?).
(There was a forum thread about all this, but I simply can't find it. :-X)
Post by: tdotter on January 16, 2013, 08:19:49 AM
I never knew she did that.
Post by: Palomine on January 16, 2013, 11:59:05 AM
After seeing the Deep Tush videos, she became even more desirable in my eyes (if such a thing is possible since she was already among my absolute all-time personal favorites ;)). A little googling will turn up info on them... perhaps there's more besides. Maybe she 'retired' after they were shot, or is only semi-retired. All I know for sure is that she continues to be one of the best-looking models/performers in the history of the entire adult entertainment business and I've literally never seen a single pic or vid of her that wasn't to die for including the one Sam posted yesterday. JMHO. ;)
Post by: gonZo on February 01, 2013, 07:08:01 AM
Post by: Bramlet on June 02, 2014, 11:20:32 AM
Is it possible to get these kind of implants Tiffany got in the past?
If yes, where? In what country? Only US? Maybe europe?
thx!
Post by: TheZookie007 on June 02, 2014, 02:09:06 PM
Some years ago Tiffany had her implants removed and more or less retired from modeling and stuff...
Here's a pic she posted on there in 2009(?).
(http://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9988226.0;attach=292877;image)
Yet another case of "even if she were a B cup, she'd still be model-beautiful". Tiffany will always be one of my favorite models.
Post by: BustyPioneer on June 03, 2014, 10:35:44 AM
Shake more gorgeous
Post by: Bramlet on June 03, 2014, 04:54:12 PM
No advice possible?
Thanks!
B
Mod edit: you might wish to go search and read posts in the Real World BE sub-forum, and if you can't find what you want to know, then post your Q there. -Pal
Post by: sex_panther on June 04, 2014, 06:55:56 AM
Post by: Deux_Anges on June 07, 2014, 07:09:43 AM
Yet another case of "even if she were a B cup, she'd still be model-beautiful". Tiffany will always be one of my favorite models.
Yep! I totally agree.
DA
Post by: seanster on June 07, 2014, 08:48:16 AM
The great thing was that, in addition to the amazing breasts, she was also a great-looking girl. Her looks were totally captivating and I always remember thinking just how attractive she was. Some mega-bust stars aren't so attractive facially but Tiffany never had that problem. She was and remains a very cute girl.
I'll always think of her as one of the genuine superstars of the big boob scene. I still adore her many videos, especially her hardcore scenes. I'll always love the one where she screws one lucky dude in the shower. Quality scene and watching those massive mounds bounce around under the streaming water is a true sight to behold ;D
Post by: solvegas on June 07, 2014, 10:06:14 PM
Post by: Maik on June 08, 2014, 02:04:44 AM
Post by: Gargantual on June 08, 2014, 04:29:20 AM
Her nether lips were pretty awesome too ;D.
Post by: jimmarg on June 08, 2014, 09:32:50 AM
Tiffany was one of the most accomplished deep throat adult stars ever also. She could suck the chrome of a bumper with no trouble at all. ;D
Very true! I thought this might be the place to pose a question that's been bugging me for years. I've got many classic hardcore scenes with Tiffany, but back in the day I remember reading a review (probably in Gent or D-Cup) of a video she did with 2 guys at once, but I've never come (cum?) across this scene. Has anyone out there ever seen it? I think it was done not long before she had her breast reduction and, at least for a time, got out of the business.
Post by: tdotter on June 09, 2014, 09:37:39 AM
Post by: Bramlet on August 13, 2014, 08:38:23 PM
Post by: Palomine on December 28, 2014, 06:35:18 PM
Pardon the cap quality, but the version I found is only 512x384 and looks ripped from some very blah-quality video, maybe even a VHS tape.
Screenshot from 2014-12-28 16:31:00 TT White Top frisky finger ULd TT
Post by: ninjrk on December 29, 2014, 12:00:50 AM
Post by: Swill on October 07, 2015, 09:22:02 AM
Post by: jimmarg on October 07, 2015, 10:43:48 AM
One of the best magazine covers I've seen :P
I couldn't agree more! I remember buying that very magazine from a newsstand in Chicago, then trying to walk the 3 blocks home while hiding the excitement that was rising in my jeans. Tiffany was amazing.
Post by: tdotter on December 05, 2015, 03:16:36 AM
Post by: Phoofy on March 13, 2016, 11:57:56 AM
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Post by: Phoofy on May 02, 2016, 04:46:16 PM
Post by: Phoofy on May 13, 2016, 01:53:26 PM
Post by: Bramlet on May 14, 2016, 11:07:54 AM
Yes! it's the Tiffany Towers Show... :-*
They look so fucking real due to their soft quality... GREAT! Alltime fav!
Post by: Phoofy on May 23, 2016, 12:51:07 PM
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Post by: Phoofy on June 25, 2016, 08:08:43 AM
Post by: Phoofy on July 05, 2016, 01:15:29 PM
Post by: Phoofy on July 07, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
(I sure hope this doesn't get deleted by the [...§%$@!....] moderators, who seem to have no life beyond checking whether I post something minutes before the 24-hour ban...) :'(
Your posts are welcome, PP, your tantrums about the rules are not >:(
Speaking of rules, here are a couple more you should note:
Do not insult or personally attack other users. Discussions and arguments are permitted, but keep them civil.
Do not post at all unless you can find a polite, respectful way to express yourself.
Hence the modification in your message above.
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Post by: Phoofy on July 08, 2016, 02:17:50 PM
(Moderators Welcome!)
Post by: Phoofy on July 11, 2016, 07:26:09 AM
This is the third time I've tried to post this scan for all of you, and the moderators have taken it down each time!
(Of course they keep the scan available for their paying customers. They just don't let you see it for free (which I do)!
The scan was not available to anyone; we store removed photos offline in case we need to replace them later. The image was moved offline twice because you posted it too soon twice. Everybody has to follow these rules, even the moderators, and nobody's entitled to a special exemption.
Post by: Phoofy on July 12, 2016, 07:06:09 AM
Yes! It's the Tiffany Towers Show...
This is the third time I've tried to post this scan for all of you, and the moderators have taken it down each time!
(Of course they keep the scan available for their paying customers. They just don't let you see it for free (which I do)!
The scan was not available to anyone; we store removed photos offline in case we need to replace them later. The image was moved offline twice because you posted it too soon twice. Everybody has to follow these rules, even the moderators, and nobody's entitled to a special exemption.
I'm certainly glad that that's all been cleared up... a-hemm!
Post by: thesarge on July 12, 2016, 07:48:06 AM
I'm just surprised Phoofy is able to say something other than
"Yes! It's the (insert name here) Show...
Post by: Phoofy on July 12, 2016, 07:53:02 AM
Wow.
I'm just surprised Phoofy is able to say something other than
"Yes! It's the (insert name here) Show...
Yes! I'm actually full of surprises!
Post by: Phoofy on July 13, 2016, 12:50:45 PM
(Moderators Welcome!) ;D
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Post by: Phoofy on August 10, 2016, 04:28:30 PM
(I confess that I like to do this when I'm not whining...)
Here's Tiffany Towers!
(This one's specially for Robin_K. Hope you like it!)
Post by: Phoofy on August 11, 2016, 04:58:23 PM
From your friendly neighborhood Whiner...
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Post by: Hell on December 14, 2016, 07:48:17 PM
Gorgeous woman.
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Post by: Jovian on April 04, 2017, 09:35:40 AM
Post by: solvegas on April 04, 2017, 09:55:12 AM
Hey all, sorry for resurrecting a (possibly) dead thread, but - can anyone point me to that video where Tiffany is solo in a pool wearing a red one-piece swimsuit? That was always my favorite and I cannot seem to find more than about 1 minute clip of it now.
SCORE has a Tiffany Towers site which has the video. I also believe you can still find it at Porn Hub or such sites.
Post by: Eliza on April 04, 2017, 09:18:10 PM
Hey all, sorry for resurrecting a (possibly) dead thread, but - can anyone point me to that video where Tiffany is solo in a pool wearing a red one-piece swimsuit? That was always my favorite and I cannot seem to find more than about 1 minute clip of it now.
Oh, I think as long as Phoofy is around, this thread won't die. ;)
Post by: jimmarg on April 14, 2017, 09:01:18 PM
Post by: jimmarg on April 15, 2017, 10:12:34 PM
Post by: toomuch on April 16, 2017, 12:23:20 AM
Post by: phonehome1 on April 16, 2017, 06:09:37 AM
She may not qualify for the "M" part but "MILF"
Post by: TheZookie007 on April 16, 2017, 06:42:14 PM
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Post by: Scarface on May 02, 2017, 09:56:32 AM
:) :) Slowing the pace.
correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that Wendy Whoppers?
Post by: gonZo on May 02, 2017, 10:51:57 AM
Post by: jimmarg on May 02, 2017, 01:24:55 PM
:) :) Slowing the pace.
I'm still fairly sure it's Tiffany, too, but I see the Wendy resemblance. Here's a look at both of them hard at work.
Post by: phonehome1 on May 02, 2017, 02:56:04 PM
The 502 vid looks more like Tiffany than Wendy but it is poor enough quality that it could be plenty of other random large breasted women.
The 503 vid does look a LOT like Wendy after she got her 3000's. I have seen other vids of her in that position and the ass does look similar as well.
Post by: Robin_K2 on May 02, 2017, 05:50:23 PM
Yes, this can be confused or disguised depending on camera angle or facial gesture. I suggest that, for ID purposes, more attention be paid to the exact shapes of noses. The difference seems pretty clear to me.
Post by: jimmarg on May 02, 2017, 08:34:15 PM
Are the 502 and 503 vid clips supposed to be from the same video just shot from 2 different angles ??
The 502 vid looks more like Tiffany than Wendy but it is poor enough quality that it could be plenty of other random large breasted women.
The 503 vid does look a LOT like Wendy after she got her 3000's. I have seen other vids of her in that position and the ass does look similar as well.
The 502 clip is definitely Tiffany (I had the old VHS tape of the whole scene), and the 511 still photo of Tiff is from the same production as well. I don't recognize the 503 clip (just stumbled upon the gif). My money's on Tiff over Wendy for that one, too, but there's really no loser in that argument.
Post by: bubachok on May 03, 2017, 09:11:08 AM
:) :) Slowing the pace.
100% not Tiffany. It's Wendy Whoppers from Hollywood Hooters Scene 2.
Different moment, same couch.
Post by: jimmarg on May 03, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
Post by: tdotter on May 26, 2017, 02:42:40 AM
Post by: Pendejo on July 31, 2017, 09:21:03 AM
Post by: salem on July 31, 2017, 05:56:41 PM
(Part 1 was Minka: See her thread for details)
(Part 2 was Tawny Peaks: See her thread for details)
(Part 3 was Wendy Whoppers: See her thread for details)
(Part 4 was Pandora Peaks: See her thread for details)
Post by: tdotter on September 29, 2017, 12:39:24 AM
Post by: salem on October 30, 2017, 07:14:28 PM
Post by: solvegas on October 30, 2017, 10:07:53 PM
:)
I remember when I was a Score magazine subscriber and I received this issue. Still have it in my stash. :)
Post by: salem on February 01, 2018, 08:22:07 AM
Post by: jimmarg on February 27, 2018, 05:25:19 PM
Post by: boobton on February 27, 2018, 06:49:34 PM
I mistakenly posted this gif in the Wendy Whoppers thread and was corrected by an alert observer, so I've moved it here. Not long ago I posted one here that was actually Wendy. I know they had certain distinctive similarities (duh), but I've spent enough time staring at them both (and Wendy once perched in my lap) that you'd think I could easily tell them apart. Must be getting old.
We forgive you ;D Tiffany was the perfect combo of face, boobs and porn. And she appeared to be mega talented orally (from what I could surmise on video)
Post by: jimmarg on February 28, 2018, 10:11:19 AM
I mistakenly posted this gif in the Wendy Whoppers thread and was corrected by an alert observer, so I've moved it here. Not long ago I posted one here that was actually Wendy. I know they had certain distinctive similarities (duh), but I've spent enough time staring at them both (and Wendy once perched in my lap) that you'd think I could easily tell them apart. Must be getting old.
We forgive you ;D Tiffany was the perfect combo of face, boobs and porn. And she appeared to be mega talented orally (from what I could surmise on video)
Good point. Wendy had the enthusiasm, but lacked the oral capacity of Tiffany, who was definitely a deep throat champion. I recall the first time I saw a video of Tiff swallowing the massive member of some guy (Ted Something-or-other), thinking, "Wha-a-a? Where did that go?" This gif doesn't give a good example of her real talent, but the best I could find.
Post by: salem on February 11, 2019, 07:08:10 PM
Post by: pilotblaze on February 13, 2019, 01:05:48 PM
Tiffany Towers, Wendy Whoppers, Pandora Peaks, Susie Sparks, Barbie Benton, et al...
It's all the same thing, right?
Nahhhh...
;)
-D'Artagnian
Post by: Pendejo on September 06, 2019, 04:16:49 PM
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Post by: Bramlet on September 09, 2019, 12:40:17 PM
Post by: jimmarg on October 21, 2019, 02:31:27 PM
Post by: jimmarg on October 29, 2019, 03:47:41 PM
Post by: Bramlet on October 30, 2019, 04:08:18 AM
Slowed for more careful study. ;D
She was the best. Best times, great huge siliconecans, but saggy!
Post by: jimmarg on November 02, 2019, 05:32:12 PM
Post by: MaxBigfoot on November 02, 2019, 05:38:17 PM
Post by: jimmarg on November 03, 2019, 04:49:05 PM
I wonder what size tits Tiffany had before the implants? Because it seems to me she has a lot higher proportion of real breast flesh to silicone than a lot of other huge implant queens. :)
I can't find it, but somewhere on-line there had been an old late-night TV ad for a sex chat-line featuring a young, pre-enhancement Tiffany, and I remember thinking that she didn't look particularly buxom before the surgery. I do know she went through 2 stages and you can find some earlier photos of her at a slightly smaller size on this thread. I believe the resilience of her boobs was all about the material, which is no longer in use.
Post by: Bramlet on November 04, 2019, 01:00:13 AM
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Sadly!
Post by: BacE on November 04, 2019, 06:20:33 AM
Post by: Bramlet on November 05, 2019, 09:30:32 AM
Post by: jimmarg on November 08, 2019, 06:21:34 PM
They stopped using it due to....? Health issues? Cancer? Easily damaging?
Don't know, but suspect it was all the above. Justa Dream had similar implants (with 2nd boob-job) and a very short career.
I think it's time to re-post Tiff's beach run at normal speed. This gif is at a slightly larger size than earlier post.
Post by: BacE on November 09, 2019, 05:49:54 AM
Post by: phonehome1 on November 09, 2019, 09:37:56 AM
They did make for some very "natural" looking implanted breasted though
I have always wondered if Tiffany had come along 15 years later when "just believe" became the default and there was no pics or videos or like with Julia Miles long lost until it was found TV interviews to p;rove otherwise how many people would have went to the mat claiming she was "all natural" just "because she said so"
Post by: jimmarg on November 10, 2019, 05:33:11 PM
I have always wondered if Tiffany had come along 15 years later when "just believe" became the default and there was no pics or videos or like with Julia Miles long lost until it was found TV interviews to p;rove otherwise how many people would have went to the mat claiming she was "all natural" just "because she said so"
I seem to remember that all those early 90's alliterative implant queens, the Tracis and Wendys and Tiffanys, initially pretended their breasts were natural, even though only someone who had never seen a naked natural breast would believe it. It's as if they thought the idea of implants would be a turn-off to most guys. Pretty soon denial became ridiculous and everyone got used to it. At least the look of Tiffany's excellent set made the pretense somewhat more believable than most.
Post by: jimmarg on November 15, 2019, 07:37:12 AM
One Google search later. It appears that double lumen breast implants have a high rupture rate, close to 50%.
Anyone who saw one of Tiffany's wild bounce-outs must have thought, "If her implants don't rupture under that kind of stress, they gotta be safe." Guess she was in the fortunate 50%.
Post by: jimmarg on November 16, 2019, 09:42:23 PM
Post by: solvegas on November 16, 2019, 09:48:06 PM
Post by: Kopy Kat on November 17, 2019, 07:25:29 AM
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Post by: jimmarg on November 21, 2019, 10:04:22 AM
Post by: solvegas on November 21, 2019, 10:09:09 AM
Post by: Robin_K2 on November 21, 2019, 12:33:32 PM
I seem to remember that all those early 90's alliterative implant queens, the Tracis and Wendys and Tiffanys, initially pretended their breasts were natural, even though only someone who had never seen a naked natural breast would believe it. It's as if they thought the idea of implants would be a turn-off to most guys.
I'm curious if others feel the same as I do. I find women with implants to be wonderfully, amazingly, more attractive.
After all, they chose their size.
Post by: ayrton on November 22, 2019, 09:35:30 AM
I seem to remember that all those early 90's alliterative implant queens, the Tracis and Wendys and Tiffanys, initially pretended their breasts were natural, even though only someone who had never seen a naked natural breast would believe it. It's as if they thought the idea of implants would be a turn-off to most guys.
I'm curious if others feel the same as I do. I find women with implants to be wonderfully, amazingly, more attractive.
After all, they chose their size.
Not me. Girls with implants look OK with clothes on but naked no way. I love how soft a natural tit looks and most implants look hard. Some look so hard that they almost look ready to burst. Scares me. To me nothing feels like a natural breast....even smaller ones feel so nice.
Post by: jimmarg on November 23, 2019, 06:37:59 PM
I seem to remember that all those early 90's alliterative implant queens, the Tracis and Wendys and Tiffanys, initially pretended their breasts were natural, even though only someone who had never seen a naked natural breast would believe it. It's as if they thought the idea of implants would be a turn-off to most guys.
I'm curious if others feel the same as I do. I find women with implants to be wonderfully, amazingly, more attractive.
After all, they chose their size.
Not me. Girls with implants look OK with clothes on but naked no way. I love how soft a natural tit looks and most implants look hard. Some look so hard that they almost look ready to burst. Scares me. To me nothing feels like a natural breast....even smaller ones feel so nice.
Regarding Robin_K's comment about the idea of women with implants who "chose" their size, I agree that it's kind of hot to think so. But since many boob jobs - especially when we're talking the mega-sized - are usually done as business investments, that kind of diminishes the sexiness, at least for me.
And while I adore plenty of implanted tit-queens, I also agree with Dick that nothing beats a set of great naturals. (See my avatar, footnote poem, etc., for one I've long admired.) And yep, nothing squeezes like the real deal.
But to bring this all back to Tiffany: One reason she was so great is that her magnificent rack came about as close to the way a pair of natural tits of such magnificence would really appear and MOVE. And man did they ever move! She had it all.
Post by: T Dog 101 on November 23, 2019, 06:57:42 PM
Although that shane video is mucho fucking good.
Post by: jimmarg on December 03, 2019, 09:55:05 PM
Post by: solvegas on December 04, 2019, 07:49:47 AM
Post by: jimmarg on December 04, 2019, 06:06:12 PM
I have the VHS and DVD of that scene taken in the Bahamas way back in 1991. :)
Good thinking! Some scenes you gotta have in every available format. ;)
Post by: MaxBigfoot on January 02, 2020, 04:36:08 PM
Post by: jimmarg on January 07, 2020, 08:18:35 AM
Post by: Jack59 on January 08, 2020, 04:14:53 PM
Tiff before her reduction was the ultimate tit-fuck Goddess! I probably couldn't have lasted more than a minute before blowing all over those beauties.
Post by: Bramlet on January 08, 2020, 07:10:57 PM
I love everything about the above photo, but mostly the way the pressure of Tiff's arm and hand emphasize the splendid squeezeability of her super-boobs, nothing like the rock-hard quality of many other boob jobs. Hands-on-Boobs shots are hottest when there's some malleability to the boobs, and Tiffany had plenty of tit-meat to spare. Love it.
well spoken!
Post by: MaxBigfoot on January 10, 2020, 06:41:34 PM
Post by: solvegas on January 12, 2020, 09:29:04 PM
Post by: jimmarg on January 13, 2020, 02:11:15 PM
^ Damn, that is from 1989 if I recollect correctly.
It's definitely pre-surgery. No, not that surgery. I'm talking about her nasal condition.
Post by: ayrton on January 14, 2020, 10:27:34 AM
Post by: jimmarg on January 14, 2020, 01:25:17 PM
Post by: T Dog 101 on January 14, 2020, 07:25:58 PM
Post by: Captain Nemo on January 15, 2020, 09:38:07 AM
Post by: solvegas on January 15, 2020, 09:48:50 AM
Post by: butcheepow on January 16, 2020, 04:05:10 AM
I was just referring to the same adjustment that 90's boob queens like Traci Topps, Wendy Whoppers, etc., had done. Not the part of their anatomy where most attention was focused (duh!), but a subtle change that added lots to their glamour, IMO.
I must confess I don't see the increase in glamour you are talking about - sure, she doesn't look bad at all, but her original nose was just as fine; it fit well in her face and was probably less stereotyped. IMO.
Then again... do we have any pre-boobjob pictures of Tiffany Amarziano / Towers?
Post by: Bramlet on January 17, 2020, 01:22:48 AM
:o
Great morph! I adored her ...
Post by: MaxBigfoot on January 18, 2020, 01:36:52 PM
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Post by: solvegas on February 13, 2020, 07:10:07 AM
Post by: jimmarg on February 13, 2020, 10:11:05 AM
I have no idea which language this is, I suspect something from Eastern Europe, but talk about mislabeling or misleading name. Heidi Lipp ? ??? I've heard of Lisa Lipps who was a contemporary of the time this photo was taken. ???
Language is Finnish. Sometimes they invented different names just because "Tiffany" or "Towers" might mean "small hills" or something equally inappropriate in Finland.
Post by: solvegas on February 13, 2020, 10:26:24 AM
Post by: butcheepow on February 14, 2020, 03:29:11 AM
I've never seen this photo before. It looks to me like Tiffany is mauling her own breasts. What do you guys think ? ???
Sol, I agree it's not sexy in a 'traditional' way, but it's the kind of face Tessa Fowler would easily pull - and we've always known there's a real and lively person before Tiffany's breasts, so it's still sexy, albeit in a 'funny' way. I'm fine with it.
Post by: Bramlet on February 14, 2020, 07:48:42 PM
Post by: solvegas on February 14, 2020, 09:08:00 PM
Post by: Morehouse on February 14, 2020, 09:46:51 PM
I've never seen this photo before. It looks to me like Tiffany is mauling her own breasts. What do you guys think ? ???
Sol, I agree it's not sexy in a 'traditional' way, but it's the kind of face Tessa Fowler would easily pull - and we've always known there's a real and lively person before Tiffany's breasts, so it's still sexy, albeit in a 'funny' way. I'm fine with it.
Post by: solvegas on February 15, 2020, 09:43:39 PM
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Post by: MaxBigfoot on February 19, 2020, 05:17:21 PM
Post by: solvegas on February 19, 2020, 10:00:41 PM
Post by: 3deroticer on February 21, 2020, 09:56:00 AM
rework its magic
Post by: solvegas on February 23, 2020, 09:06:52 PM
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Post by: MaxBigfoot on March 28, 2020, 01:40:00 PM
Post by: phonehome1 on March 28, 2020, 03:25:19 PM
She has to be at least pushing 50 by now
Post by: MaxBigfoot on March 28, 2020, 04:52:33 PM
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Post by: 3deroticer on March 29, 2020, 08:00:00 PM
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Post by: solvegas on April 01, 2020, 07:42:43 AM
Post by: Hiram on April 02, 2020, 03:03:14 AM
^ That gif is from the 1993 Bahamas video which I've got in VHS.Yeah same here - it was Booberella (1992) I believe.
Post by: solvegas on April 02, 2020, 08:33:15 AM
Post by: solvegas on April 04, 2020, 09:02:59 PM
Post by: MaxBigfoot on April 05, 2020, 02:13:52 PM
Post by: MaxBigfoot on April 13, 2020, 06:52:07 PM
Post by: T Dog 101 on April 13, 2020, 07:10:58 PM
:)
She trying but her tits need to be much bigger to fuck that tree
Post by: MaxBigfoot on April 13, 2020, 07:13:57 PM
:)
She trying but her tits need to be much bigger to fuck that tree
Ooooooooohh, Captain Nemooooooo!!!! ;)
Post by: Scarface on April 15, 2020, 02:46:46 PM
This set, she's with some dufus I would happily kneecap to change places with! :P :)LOL, that doofus was her real boyfriend at the time
Post by: CarlTL on April 15, 2020, 03:45:37 PM
Post by: MaxBigfoot on April 15, 2020, 04:28:14 PM
I'd still kneecap him for the chance. ;)This set, she's with some dufus I would happily kneecap to change places with! :P :)LOL, that doofus was her real boyfriend at the time
Post by: solvegas on April 16, 2020, 08:51:10 AM
Post by: Bramlet on April 19, 2020, 11:30:22 AM
:)
So soft.... sigh
Post by: solvegas on April 19, 2020, 10:38:28 PM
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Post by: solvegas on April 23, 2020, 10:18:45 PM
Post by: MaxBigfoot on April 25, 2020, 02:05:03 PM
Post by: Bramlet on April 25, 2020, 06:33:07 PM
Tiffany toward the end of her career suffered a breast implant failure and so she had them removed. :'( This photo was taken soon afterward. Still beautiful but just not the same. :(
Sadly.... hopefully she is doing great though
Post by: phonehome1 on April 27, 2020, 07:30:44 PM
Tiffany toward the end of her career suffered a breast implant failure and so she had them removed. :'( This photo was taken soon afterward. Still beautiful but just not the same. :(
No she was never the same
To be 100% accurate yes she did have a failure but then had smaller ones put in, as I recall 800 CC because at the time that was as big as you could get and it was WAY before there were any PS that were willing to go the route of using "tissue expanders" as anything approaching "permanent" like we now see with the likes of Mary Madison
Post by: solvegas on April 27, 2020, 10:38:16 PM
Post by: Bramlet on April 28, 2020, 04:31:32 AM
Tiffany toward the end of her career suffered a breast implant failure and so she had them removed. :'( This photo was taken soon afterward. Still beautiful but just not the same. :(
No she was never the same
To be 100% accurate yes she did have a failure but then had smaller ones put in, as I recall 800 CC because at the time that was as big as you could get and it was WAY before there were any PS that were willing to go the route of using "tissue expanders" as anything approaching "permanent" like we now see with the likes of Mary Madison
Mary Madison reduced?
Post by: solvegas on April 28, 2020, 07:01:38 AM
Post by: phonehome1 on April 28, 2020, 01:52:59 PM
Plus the fact that now these super big size woman, Mary Madison for example are using tissue expanders as Permanent implants as well as filling them FAR beyond there rated capacity.
This was not the case back when Tiffany needed her replacement implant/s.
Tissue expander implants did exist back them but they were only "temporary"
Basically a girl that was really small, A or B cup small, Wendy Whoppers for example who wanted to get really big, an end goal of 3000 CC which were about the biggest silicone implants you could get had 2 options. Get 4 or 5 sets of implants, going up a max of 2 or 3 cups sizes at a time, a new set every 6 to 18 months depending on how they healed up and "settled in" , each time risking complications, infections, not waking up from the anesthesia to say nothing of paying from 5 to 15 K a pop or start with tissue expanders and add saline every other month or so the way the women today do until they got to about 2500 CC which was what they were rated for and get there in around 18 months and from there a PS who specialized in big implants like Dr. Gerald Johnson in Houston could remove them and squeeze in a set of 3000's
No PS at the time would put them in as permanent implants because the CW was that the shells would fail after a few years so they were only in 2 or 3 years max and none would go to overfilling them like is the norm now
Plus almost all Dr.s would rather get paid to do 4 or 5 boob jobs rather than just 2 with a few office visits for saline fills at a few hundred bucks a time so few Dr.s at the time, the time she would have needed at least one of them to replace her ruptured implant would put them in in the first place
Post by: solvegas on April 29, 2020, 10:30:03 PM
Post by: solvegas on April 30, 2020, 10:24:46 PM
Post by: Captain Nemo on May 01, 2020, 08:42:42 AM
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Post by: Bramlet on May 05, 2020, 04:38:05 AM
Post by: solvegas on May 05, 2020, 11:15:22 PM
Post by: Bramlet on May 07, 2020, 05:12:29 AM
Any woman who looks this good should have a huge smile on her. ;D
So goddamn HUGE and SAGGY! 24/7-boner
Post by: solvegas on May 07, 2020, 10:49:34 PM
Post by: MaxBigfoot on May 09, 2020, 01:50:23 PM
Post by: Captain Nemo on May 09, 2020, 02:40:49 PM
Post by: Bramlet on May 09, 2020, 06:15:21 PM
Post by: solvegas on May 09, 2020, 11:19:52 PM
Post by: Bramlet on May 11, 2020, 01:07:28 AM
Post by: Captain Nemo on May 11, 2020, 05:47:57 PM
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Post by: solvegas on May 12, 2020, 10:59:08 PM
Post by: boobton on May 15, 2020, 07:56:46 PM
:)
Man I think I have that on VHS somewhere in my big box of porn. Great movie btw
Post by: Bramlet on May 15, 2020, 08:58:26 PM
Thank You :D 8)
Even better! :P
Post by: MaxBigfoot on May 17, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Post by: solvegas on May 18, 2020, 10:57:07 PM
Post by: Bramlet on May 19, 2020, 01:36:27 AM
Post by: solvegas on May 19, 2020, 10:45:18 PM
Post by: Bramlet on May 20, 2020, 07:39:20 AM
Tiffany seemingly can't believe her good luck. ;) ;D
Damn... sigh... her saggy-soft tight silicone-cans... stunning til today!
Post by: MaxBigfoot on May 23, 2020, 02:14:11 PM
Post by: solvegas on May 23, 2020, 10:01:20 PM
Post by: salem on May 23, 2020, 10:53:51 PM
TiffanyTowers.COM is a SCORELAND website, the rules are quite clear.
You MUST wait at least ONE WEEK before posting a Scoreland image after you have posted one in a thread.
Please re-read the rules regarding this. I have had to remove countless images over 4 pages of this thread.
Any further breach will result in a locking of this thread and a ban.
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Post by: solvegas on May 23, 2020, 11:08:57 PM
Post by: MaxBigfoot on May 24, 2020, 03:07:41 AM
Post by: salem on May 24, 2020, 09:21:36 AM
As long as you post one a week it's fine. We just don't want Score to revoke our posting privileges :).
Post by: solvegas on June 04, 2020, 09:47:00 PM
Post by: Jack59 on June 04, 2020, 11:17:59 PM
I mean it's not like she's modelling any more, unfortunately. :(
Post by: TheZookie007 on June 04, 2020, 11:25:41 PM
I'd post here but all the pics I have of Tiff are on the small side.
I mean it's not like she's modelling any more, unfortunately. :(
I still would like to see them.
Post by: solvegas on June 20, 2020, 06:08:18 AM
Post by: solvegas on July 16, 2020, 07:04:37 AM
Post by: solvegas on July 30, 2020, 09:08:12 AM
Post by: solvegas on August 02, 2020, 06:06:14 AM
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Post by: Bramlet on August 06, 2020, 05:57:59 PM
Post by: Captain Nemo on August 14, 2020, 02:49:24 PM
Post by: titmouse on August 14, 2020, 02:54:01 PM
The caption said she was at the Foundation Room but didn't specify which one. The Foundation Rooms are associated with The House of Blues restaurants and concert venues and we have one here in Vegas but looking at the background it is not here in Vegas 'cause it ain't gaudy enough. ;D As you can tell, she is a little thicker and nowhere as busty at her prime. It's been two weeks since any update so I'll do it.
id go for that shes now well built soccer mom looking
Post by: solvegas on August 14, 2020, 11:25:22 PM
8)
I should have complimented the good Captain Nemo about this great morph he did of Tiffany earlier. Thanks Captain. :)
Post by: salem on October 11, 2020, 07:59:40 PM
Post by: solvegas on October 11, 2020, 10:49:25 PM
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Post by: Margaret on November 11, 2020, 11:40:04 AM
Many websites seem to list her bra size as 32G/FF.
Not. A. Chance.
I know this, because I’m 32FF - and her boobs are waaaaay bigger than mine.
It’s difficult to tell, because she’s so petite and slim in most of her photos, and from what I gather, she wasn’t/isn’t tall - maybe 5’3” or 5’4” - although, that doesn’t seem right, as she looks tall in many of of her photos when she’s with other women (maybe they’re small too?) or wearing stilloes.
With all this in mind, I suspect she’s not a 32 back - probably more like a 30 back, but it’s possible, depending on the bra. She’s almost definitely in the K/KK or maybe L cup range - certainly before her reduction.
I’m estimating, if I were to fit her (as she was before she had her reduction), she’d be a 32KK or 30L.
Post by: solvegas on November 11, 2020, 09:46:00 PM
Post by: Kopy Kat on November 12, 2020, 06:52:47 AM
Post by: solvegas on November 12, 2020, 07:00:42 AM
Ah, those 90's blown up numbers. "Ninety-eight inches around!?" I'd tape measure various stuff around my house and.......be all kinds of confuzzled afterwards.
Back in the 80's and 90's the rule of thumb was that you essentially doubled or more the actual breast measurement around the fullest part of the breast. ::) Sometimes, you gave the centimeters number and magically transform it into inches also. It's all marketing. ::) ;D
Post by: T Dog 101 on November 12, 2020, 06:21:06 PM
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Post by: phonehome1 on December 13, 2020, 06:58:47 AM
I’ve been browsing around and googling to try and find out more about this immensely beautiful woman. I gather she’s retired now?
Many websites seem to list her bra size as 32G/FF.
Not. A. Chance.
I know this, because I’m 32FF - and her boobs are waaaaay bigger than mine.
It’s difficult to tell, because she’s so petite and slim in most of her photos, and from what I gather, she wasn’t/isn’t tall - maybe 5’3” or 5’4” - although, that doesn’t seem right, as she looks tall in many of of her photos when she’s with other women (maybe they’re small too?) or wearing stilloes.
With all this in mind, I suspect she’s not a 32 back - probably more like a 30 back, but it’s possible, depending on the bra. She’s almost definitely in the K/KK or maybe L cup range - certainly before her reduction.
I’m estimating, if I were to fit her (as she was before she had her reduction), she’d be a 32KK or 30L.
Yes phonehome1 we get it, US and UK sizes are different. Perhaps you could have made the point without being so rude about it.
Post removed for unnecessarily rude and ill-informed comments. I include a graphic of comparisons with US and UK bra sizing's.
You can clearly see that a UK DD and a US DD are the same, blowing your argument completely out of the water. There is also no difference between band sizes in the US and UK, so a 32DD is the same in the US and the UK.
The idea that Tiffany Towers would ever be considered a 32FF is frankly laughable.
Finally the 'plus 4' sizing satandard is redundant and harks back to a time when bras were not as elesticated as they are now. I include a link about bra sizing from Curvy Kate.
https://www.curvykate.com/blogs/news/want-to-know-the-real-reason-why-women-are-wearing-the-wrong-bra-size#:~:text=The%20'Plus%204'%20Fitting%20method,from%20the%20difference%20in%20measurements.%22&text=Today%20specialist%20bra%20fitters%20(that's,don't%20'measure'.
Post by: Margaret on December 13, 2020, 09:50:13 AM
I’ve been browsing around and googling to try and find out more about this immensely beautiful woman. I gather she’s retired now?This is because and it has been explained to you MULTIPLE TIMES but you refuse to get through you thick fucking heads the DIFFERENCE between the US "plus 4" system which was THE WORLD STANDARD for going on 100 years and for the most part still is and your utterly BULLSHIT "look at me I SOUND so big" UK standard which until 20 years ago NO ONE outside the UK had ever even heard of and EVEN UK models in the 80's "page 3 girls"like Samantha Fox, Debbie Jordam and a simular busty blonde who went by "Debbie Q" and then 10 or so years later the first wave of "the all natural girls" LDM, Lorna Morgan Chole Verrier etc etc none of whom tried to claim to be Z cups or what ever by using your bullshit UK sizing sizing which was only popularized to further the "their must be something in the water" MYTH that all women in the UK were packing big tits, that D cups were just training bras when objective studies using the US standard said that the difference between US women and UK women was only about one cup size and when you controlled for BF/BMI IE screened out the FAT girls it was less than one cup size so to support this myth enter your bullshit "I sound so big" UK sizing system
Many websites seem to list her bra size as 32G/FF.
Not. A. Chance.
I know this, because I’m 32FF - and her boobs are waaaaay bigger than mine.
It’s difficult to tell, because she’s so petite and slim in most of her photos, and from what I gather, she wasn’t/isn’t tall - maybe 5’3” or 5’4” - although, that doesn’t seem right, as she looks tall in many of of her photos when she’s with other women (maybe they’re small too?) or wearing stilloes.
With all this in mind, I suspect she’s not a 32 back - probably more like a 30 back, but it’s possible, depending on the bra. She’s almost definitely in the K/KK or maybe L cup range - certainly before her reduction.
I’m estimating, if I were to fit her (as she was before she had her reduction), she’d be a 32KK or 30L.
The average band size for US women for decades has been from 34 to 38 inches 36 inches being the average
Christy Canyon, 5'7" 125 or so size 6 a 36DD and "big boned girls" like "Samatha 38G" and plenty of examples of models and porn stars at or around 5'4" and 110 give or take that are/were 34 somethings , drop down to 5 foot and 95 and you get mostly 32's and FEW as in VERY FEW 30's and then we are talking like 4'10 and 90 pounds and NO ONE unless we are talking "little people" with 28's ,
Here is the bottom line you take ANY woman and measure her using the US standard she will be X and then use the UK system and instantly her band size is 4 inches smaller and then "magically" her cup size is 4 cup sizes BIGGER and "presto" a woman that ANY guy in the US who has seen, got his hands on, took bra shoping to Victoria Secret or at least got a peek at the tag on bra of a woman 5'4" 110 and a 34B maybe borderline C is all the sudden claiming to be a 30DD
Some one who is probably at best a DD claiming to be a FF
I guess this was inevitable: a man angrily explaining bra sizing/fitting to a woman.
Post by: BacE on December 13, 2020, 10:54:18 AM
D = DD/E
FF/G = HH/I
H = J
K = N
And there is also differences between manufacturers, I once went bra shopping with an ex-girlfriend, because she'd outgrown her 80D bra, and all the bras she tried on in differend stores ranged from 80D to 80F.
It's time for a new global system, where the cupsize is defined by volumetric measurement intstead of a linear measurement. Implants are defined in cc's, why not cup-sizes?
Post by: phonehome1 on December 13, 2020, 02:52:20 PM
I’ve been browsing around and googling to try and find out more about this immensely beautiful woman. I gather she’s retired now?This is because and it has been explained to you MULTIPLE TIMES but you refuse to get through you thick fucking heads the DIFFERENCE between the US "plus 4" system which was THE WORLD STANDARD for going on 100 years and for the most part still is and your utterly BULLSHIT "look at me I SOUND so big" UK standard which until 20 years ago NO ONE outside the UK had ever even heard of and EVEN UK models in the 80's "page 3 girls"like Samantha Fox, Debbie Jordam and a simular busty blonde who went by "Debbie Q" and then 10 or so years later the first wave of "the all natural girls" LDM, Lorna Morgan Chole Verrier etc etc none of whom tried to claim to be Z cups or what ever by using your bullshit UK sizing sizing which was only popularized to further the "their must be something in the water" MYTH that all women in the UK were packing big tits, that D cups were just training bras when objective studies using the US standard said that the difference between US women and UK women was only about one cup size and when you controlled for BF/BMI IE screened out the FAT girls it was less than one cup size so to support this myth enter your bullshit "I sound so big" UK sizing system
Many websites seem to list her bra size as 32G/FF.
Not. A. Chance.
I know this, because I’m 32FF - and her boobs are waaaaay bigger than mine.
It’s difficult to tell, because she’s so petite and slim in most of her photos, and from what I gather, she wasn’t/isn’t tall - maybe 5’3” or 5’4” - although, that doesn’t seem right, as she looks tall in many of of her photos when she’s with other women (maybe they’re small too?) or wearing stilloes.
With all this in mind, I suspect she’s not a 32 back - probably more like a 30 back, but it’s possible, depending on the bra. She’s almost definitely in the K/KK or maybe L cup range - certainly before her reduction.
I’m estimating, if I were to fit her (as she was before she had her reduction), she’d be a 32KK or 30L.
The average band size for US women for decades has been from 34 to 38 inches 36 inches being the average
Christy Canyon, 5'7" 125 or so size 6 a 36DD and "big boned girls" like "Samatha 38G" and plenty of examples of models and porn stars at or around 5'4" and 110 give or take that are/were 34 somethings , drop down to 5 foot and 95 and you get mostly 32's and FEW as in VERY FEW 30's and then we are talking like 4'10 and 90 pounds and NO ONE unless we are talking "little people" with 28's ,
Here is the bottom line you take ANY woman and measure her using the US standard she will be X and then use the UK system and instantly her band size is 4 inches smaller and then "magically" her cup size is 4 cup sizes BIGGER and "presto" a woman that ANY guy in the US who has seen, got his hands on, took bra shoping to Victoria Secret or at least got a peek at the tag on bra of a woman 5'4" 110 and a 34B maybe borderline C is all the sudden claiming to be a 30DD
Some one who is probably at best a DD claiming to be a FF
I guess this was inevitable: a man angrily explaining bra sizing/fitting to a woman.
Yes a man who has been closely examing teh contents of womens bras , women from coast to coast and border to border and around the world to include women in the UK, a man who has been taking women bra shopping and after checking the tag when she is asleep or in the shower buying bras for those women and doing it for decades, probably BEFORE YOU WERE BORN
A man who first saw Christy Canyon in the early 80's and saw dozens of women that were just like her, 5'7" give or take an inch, 125 give of take a few pounds, about a size 6 36DD or close to it. enough women to be able to look at a woman and say she is a ----- and be correct or REALLY close.
A man that knows what size those UK models like Samantha Fox and Debbie Jordan said they were D toDD when they appeared in Playboy and Penthouse in the 80's and what size the next generation, LDM and Lorna Morgan said they weer H and FF when the appeared in Score, Gent and other such magazines in the mid to late 90's ,
A man that knows that until the early 00's he had never heard of this bullshit UK sizing system and knows if he asked just about any US man with a like level of experience that would say the same and that even UK models did not cite it as to their size
A man who has conclude that the ONLY reason the UK sizing system is as popular as it is now and popular with woman like you is that it make woman like you SOUND BIGGER
Look it at me, click on my site I am a 30DD when you are at best a 34 B a 30FF when at best a 34DD
It SOUNDS GOOD until you see side by side pics
Yes THAT man
Post by: phonehome1 on December 13, 2020, 03:19:08 PM
And even he got it partially wrong, The cupsize difference comes from the antiquated imperial system (1 inch per cupsize) and the rest of the world metric system (2cm per cupsize). In the small sizes there isn't much difference, but every 4 US cupsizes equals 5 in the rest of the world. So
D = DD/E
FF/G = HH/I
H = J
K = N
And there is also differences between manufacturers, I once went bra shopping with an ex-girlfriend, because she'd outgrown her 80D bra, and all the bras she tried on in differend stores ranged from 80D to 80F.
It's time for a new global system, where the cupsize is defined by volumetric measurement intstead of a linear measurement. Implants are defined in cc's, why not cup-sizes?
I am quite aware how teh one inch per cup size system works that in reality DD and E are teh same size and that FF and G are the same size and so on and so forth.
You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS
The bottom line is as I said before take any woman control for height BF/BMI and overall build and if you use teh US standard she will be a band size 34 to 38 and the majority will be 36 but measure that exact same woman using teh UK system and her band size will be 4 inches less and as result the inch per cup size differential will be 4 inches greater and like magic a 34B turns into a 30f
They are the exact same woman but until you see that one SOUNDS BIGGER
Here is an analogy for you
Every guy knows there is 2 ways to measure penis size, on the top with a hard ruler, non bone pressed which will equal X inches and along the bottom, including plenty of scrotum and you will be a good inch "longer" :if you have good upward curve and use a clot tape you can probably eek out another 1/2 inch or so.
One way makes you SOUND BIGGER even when you are NOT
Post by: Margaret on December 13, 2020, 03:54:54 PM
And even he got it partially wrong, The cupsize difference comes from the antiquated imperial system (1 inch per cupsize) and the rest of the world metric system (2cm per cupsize). In the small sizes there isn't much difference, but every 4 US cupsizes equals 5 in the rest of the world. So
D = DD/E
FF/G = HH/I
H = J
K = N
And there is also differences between manufacturers, I once went bra shopping with an ex-girlfriend, because she'd outgrown her 80D bra, and all the bras she tried on in differend stores ranged from 80D to 80F.
It's time for a new global system, where the cupsize is defined by volumetric measurement intstead of a linear measurement. Implants are defined in cc's, why not cup-sizes?
I am quite aware how teh one inch per cup size system works that in reality DD and E are teh same size and that FF and G are the same size and so on and so forth.
You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS
The bottom line is as I said before take any woman control for height BF/BMI and overall build and if you use teh US standard she will be a band size 34 to 38 and the majority will be 36 but measure that exact same woman using teh UK system and her band size will be 4 inches less and as result the inch per cup size differential will be 4 inches greater and like magic a 34B turns into a 30f
They are the exact same woman but until you see that one SOUNDS BIGGER
Here is an analogy for you
Every guy knows there is 2 ways to measure penis size, on the top with a hard ruler, non bone pressed which will equal X inches and along the bottom, including plenty of scrotum and you will be a good inch "longer" :if you have good upward curve and use a clot tape you can probably eek out another 1/2 inch or so.
One way makes you SOUND BIGGER even when you are NOT
I don’t even know where to begin with this. It’s deranged, ill-informed and unintelligible gibberish - and not actually based on any facts or available information about how bra sizing worked in the past, or how it works now.
Post by: MaxBigfoot on December 13, 2020, 06:02:42 PM
And even he got it partially wrong, The cupsize difference comes from the antiquated imperial system (1 inch per cupsize) and the rest of the world metric system (2cm per cupsize). In the small sizes there isn't much difference, but every 4 US cupsizes equals 5 in the rest of the world. So
D = DD/E
FF/G = HH/I
H = J
K = N
And there is also differences between manufacturers, I once went bra shopping with an ex-girlfriend, because she'd outgrown her 80D bra, and all the bras she tried on in differend stores ranged from 80D to 80F.
It's time for a new global system, where the cupsize is defined by volumetric measurement intstead of a linear measurement. Implants are defined in cc's, why not cup-sizes?
I am quite aware how teh one inch per cup size system works that in reality DD and E are teh same size and that FF and G are the same size and so on and so forth.
You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS
The bottom line is as I said before take any woman control for height BF/BMI and overall build and if you use teh US standard she will be a band size 34 to 38 and the majority will be 36 but measure that exact same woman using teh UK system and her band size will be 4 inches less and as result the inch per cup size differential will be 4 inches greater and like magic a 34B turns into a 30f
They are the exact same woman but until you see that one SOUNDS BIGGER
Here is an analogy for you
Every guy knows there is 2 ways to measure penis size, on the top with a hard ruler, non bone pressed which will equal X inches and along the bottom, including plenty of scrotum and you will be a good inch "longer" :if you have good upward curve and use a clot tape you can probably eek out another 1/2 inch or so.
One way makes you SOUND BIGGER even when you are NOT
I don’t even know where to begin with this. It’s deranged, ill-informed and unintelligible gibberish - and not actually based on any facts or available information about how bra sizing worked in the past, or how it works now.
My apologies for my fellow BEA'er, Margaret. It sounds like he's been having a bad day, and for some reason he's been triggered for nothing that would require this kind of emotion or rhetoric. :(
Post by: phonehome1 on December 13, 2020, 06:03:14 PM
And even he got it partially wrong, The cupsize difference comes from the antiquated imperial system (1 inch per cupsize) and the rest of the world metric system (2cm per cupsize). In the small sizes there isn't much difference, but every 4 US cupsizes equals 5 in the rest of the world. So
D = DD/E
FF/G = HH/I
H = J
K = N
And there is also differences between manufacturers, I once went bra shopping with an ex-girlfriend, because she'd outgrown her 80D bra, and all the bras she tried on in differend stores ranged from 80D to 80F.
It's time for a new global system, where the cupsize is defined by volumetric measurement intstead of a linear measurement. Implants are defined in cc's, why not cup-sizes?
I am quite aware how teh one inch per cup size system works that in reality DD and E are teh same size and that FF and G are the same size and so on and so forth.
You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS
The bottom line is as I said before take any woman control for height BF/BMI and overall build and if you use teh US standard she will be a band size 34 to 38 and the majority will be 36 but measure that exact same woman using teh UK system and her band size will be 4 inches less and as result the inch per cup size differential will be 4 inches greater and like magic a 34B turns into a 30f
They are the exact same woman but until you see that one SOUNDS BIGGER
Here is an analogy for you
Every guy knows there is 2 ways to measure penis size, on the top with a hard ruler, non bone pressed which will equal X inches and along the bottom, including plenty of scrotum and you will be a good inch "longer" :if you have good upward curve and use a clot tape you can probably eek out another 1/2 inch or so.
One way makes you SOUND BIGGER even when you are NOT
I don’t even know where to begin with this. It’s deranged, ill-informed and unintelligible gibberish - and not actually based on any facts or available information about how bra sizing worked in the past, or how it works now.
So Christy Canyon, google her if you need to and all those MILLONS of other American women who have a simular build and have been wearing well fitted 36DD bras from the likes of Playtex, Maidenform, Fredrichs of Hollywood and Victoria Secret for the last 40 years are just WRONG
Is that it ?
Or is your sizing system BULLSHIT which has one and only one mission in life,
Making you SOUND BIGGER
Post by: phonehome1 on December 13, 2020, 06:20:04 PM
And even he got it partially wrong, The cupsize difference comes from the antiquated imperial system (1 inch per cupsize) and the rest of the world metric system (2cm per cupsize). In the small sizes there isn't much difference, but every 4 US cupsizes equals 5 in the rest of the world. So
D = DD/E
FF/G = HH/I
H = J
K = N
And there is also differences between manufacturers, I once went bra shopping with an ex-girlfriend, because she'd outgrown her 80D bra, and all the bras she tried on in differend stores ranged from 80D to 80F.
It's time for a new global system, where the cupsize is defined by volumetric measurement intstead of a linear measurement. Implants are defined in cc's, why not cup-sizes?
I am quite aware how teh one inch per cup size system works that in reality DD and E are teh same size and that FF and G are the same size and so on and so forth.
You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS
The bottom line is as I said before take any woman control for height BF/BMI and overall build and if you use teh US standard she will be a band size 34 to 38 and the majority will be 36 but measure that exact same woman using teh UK system and her band size will be 4 inches less and as result the inch per cup size differential will be 4 inches greater and like magic a 34B turns into a 30f
They are the exact same woman but until you see that one SOUNDS BIGGER
Here is an analogy for you
Every guy knows there is 2 ways to measure penis size, on the top with a hard ruler, non bone pressed which will equal X inches and along the bottom, including plenty of scrotum and you will be a good inch "longer" :if you have good upward curve and use a clot tape you can probably eek out another 1/2 inch or so.
One way makes you SOUND BIGGER even when you are NOT
I don’t even know where to begin with this. It’s deranged, ill-informed and unintelligible gibberish - and not actually based on any facts or available information about how bra sizing worked in the past, or how it works now.
My apologies for my fellow BEA'er, Margaret. It sounds like he's been having a bad day, and for some reason he's been triggered for nothing that would require this kind of emotion or rhetoric. :(
No that is not it
Not even close
It is as simple as this
For DECADEs, going on 100 frickin years there was ONME WAY that we measureed a woman and determined her bra size
The sytem that had Christy Canyon at 36 DD and LDM at a as I recal 36H and then seemingly out of no where about 20 years ago this new system stated getting used and it was different in two ways, womans band sizes were all the sudden smaller in an era where if anything woman are getting BIGGER and cup sizes exploded to letters that were the likes of Wendy whoppers, and Sarena Lee and the example of this thread Tiffany Towers others in the 90's even though anyone with eyes can see the comparison of them to these "new system women" is NOT EVEN CLOSE and my question is WHY ????
I have said why I believe it was done
Marketing
Getting clicks
Look ay me I am so big
Post by: BacE on December 13, 2020, 10:29:21 PM
You can call the "imperial system" "antiquated" if you want but it was the "world standard" the "gold standard" if you will for DECADES and at least in the US and a lot of the rest of the "western world " STILL IS
You said it yourself: "was the "world standard"" and "for DECADES", means antiquated.
Three countries (US Liberia and Myanmar) is not "a lot".
Post by: salem on December 16, 2020, 05:37:25 PM
After all they make, fit and sell bras FOR A LIVING!
https://www.curvykate.com/blogs/news/want-to-know-the-real-reason-why-women-are-wearing-the-wrong-bra-size#:~:text=The%20'Plus%204'%20Fitting%20method,from%20the%20difference%20in%20measurements.%22&text=Today%20specialist%20bra%20fitters%20(that's,don't%20'measure'.
Post by: Margaret on December 17, 2020, 07:05:55 AM
I'll let Curvy Kate have the last word...
After all they make, fit and sell bras FOR A LIVING!
https://www.curvykate.com/blogs/news/want-to-know-the-real-reason-why-women-are-wearing-the-wrong-bra-size#:~:text=The%20'Plus%204'%20Fitting%20method,from%20the%20difference%20in%20measurements.%22&text=Today%20specialist%20bra%20fitters%20(that's,don't%20'measure'.
THIS.
Also. I’m working on a response to this nonsense about “gold standards”. If a gold standard is doing something wrong for 100+ years, I don’t know what a platinum standard would be.
Post by: solvegas on December 17, 2020, 07:40:00 AM
Post by: solvegas on December 17, 2020, 08:02:47 AM
Post by: Margaret on December 17, 2020, 11:20:26 AM
I was thinking how a thread about one of the best porn stars ever with an amazing body, fantastic boob job and a face that would launch a thousand ships, became a discussion about bra fitting. All interesting I guess but I think it's not very conducive for keeping things peaceful around here. My $0.02. Anyways, a small gif to remind people why this thread exists. Click it. By the way, Tiffany's birthday is two days from now on the 19th and she will be 49 years old. I still have the issue of Gent Magazine when she was a brand new model at the ripe old age of 19. ;) ;D
I agree, but it’s also important to determine her proper bra size and educate people.
And happy birthday to her when it comes (I suspect her bra size wasn’t the only thing she told fibs about during her career - chances are she’s older than 49 now).
Post by: solvegas on December 17, 2020, 11:27:18 AM
Post by: phonehome1 on December 17, 2020, 12:34:40 PM
I'll let Curvy Kate have the last word...
After all they make, fit and sell bras FOR A LIVING!
https://www.curvykate.com/blogs/news/want-to-know-the-real-reason-why-women-are-wearing-the-wrong-bra-size#:~:text=The%20'Plus%204'%20Fitting%20method,from%20the%20difference%20in%20measurements.%22&text=Today%20specialist%20bra%20fitters%20(that's,don't%20'measure'.
Well firt off Curvy Kate is a UK bra maker so surprise surprise surprise they would sign on to using this UK methods
I do not know how long they have been in the game but I am fairly certain that the likes of Playtex, Frederick's of Hollywood, Madenform and Victoria Secret have been in the game for just as long and most likley for A LOT LONGER
Your link is more of this narrative that became "popular" right about the same time that use of the UK sizing system became popular, popular outside the UK anyway.
That narrative being that "most women are wearing the "wrong size bra" "
Also confidently enough right about the same time, the early ))'s that this narrative started that women in the EU, in general, and the UK in particular were so much more "busty" than women in the rest of the world and in particular women in the US, where teh average for decades, was a C cup, 36C to be precise. No we were suposed to belive that virtually every woman in the UK was at least a D, or DD and everybody and her sister was an LDM clone, H cups, why they were not "rare" AT ALL even though "the eye test" said otherwise.
That women here in the US for their entire lives have been wearing bras that have 4 inches of "slack" as far as teh band size goes .
Do you have any idea just how "loose" of a fit that would be ?
Think of it like this
You wear size 34 inch waist jeans, not super tight, or even "snug" just fit to the point where you do not need to wear a belt to hold them up and then you put on a pair of 38 inch waist jeans, you know GD well that they would be loose to the point of "falling down" if you were not wearing a belt to hold them up.
Now you enter a woman who you say should be wearing a 30 inch band size bra and she puts on a 34 now before you even consider that that 4 inches represents a greater % of 30 than the 34 in my jean example do you realize just how loose of a fit a 34 inch band bra would be on her ?
Two fingers ?
How about an entire hand ?
Now I and I am sure you could find plenty of guys in the US who would say much the same thing, have been taking bras of women for 40 years and taking them bra shopping for well over 30. women from 4'10" to 5'10, from 90 pounds to 190 pounds, from A cups to H cups, natural and enhanced, in a few cases REALLY ENHANCED and almost all of them where wearing bras that would have "passed" that "2 finger test", in anything they were on the tight side, bras (because I looked or bought them) that were 34 t0 38 band size, a FEW 32's, and NO 30's, certainly NO 28's NONE were "loose" and had an extra 4 inches or for that matter even 2 inches of "slack" like you would would experience in my jeans example.
Christy Canyon 5'7', 125 36DD
You would have us believe that she has been wearing the wrong size bra for like 50 years now ??
In all that time you think she NEVER got "properly fitted" ??
Post by: phonehome1 on December 17, 2020, 12:53:03 PM
I was thinking how a thread about one of the best porn stars ever with an amazing body, fantastic boob job and a face that would launch a thousand ships, became a discussion about bra fitting. All interesting I guess but I think it's not very conducive for keeping things peaceful around here. My $0.02. Anyways, a small gif to remind people why this thread exists. Click it. By the way, Tiffany's birthday is two days from now on the 19th and she will be 49 years old. I still have the issue of Gent Magazine when she was a brand new model at the ripe old age of 19. ;) ;D
I agree, but it’s also important to determine her proper bra size and educate people.
And happy birthday to her when it comes (I suspect her bra size wasn’t the only thing she told fibs about during her career - chances are she’s older than 49 now).
"Proper" according to WHO ??
She was one of those "girls of the 90's" when EXAGGERATING your bust/breast size was BEYOND common, swapping the bust measurement for rib cage measurement in order to "sound bigger" using CM's rather than inches in order to "sound bigger" quoting astronomical cup sizes that were not even real XXX, ZZZ etc in order to "sound bigger" We are supposed to believe that she and all those other, women that came along in that time would not have started claiming to be 28 J's or some other way out there cup size in order to "sound bigger"
How come LDM and the other UK models in the mid 90's did not claim to be 28 or 30 I or J or what ever in order to "sound bigger" ??? Explain that !!!
Post by: salem on December 18, 2020, 12:51:17 PM
Dude, you are clearly clueless when it comes to bra sizing's and fitting. Have you personally ever fitted a woman for a bra?
It does not matter whether or not Curvy Kate is a UK fitter, DD is the same in BOTH COUNTRIES! It only diverges further down the cup size chart.
Your method of bra fitting is as outdated as using leeches to cure sick patients.
Here is Victoria Secret's guide
https://www.victoriassecret.com/us/vs/bras/how-to-measure-bras
Take the picture below of Tiffany Towers, what a poorly fitting bra.
The straps are digging into her shoulders, the bit in the middle should fit flush to the breastbone and there should be no gap between the bottom of the bra and the body.
Let's face it, bra sizes for models in the past were just plucked out of the air since they assumed that people thought anything over DD was huge anyway.
Post by: Margaret on December 18, 2020, 01:17:18 PM
Yes, professional bra fitters are all wrong and you are right. Hmmmm. I don't think so.
Dude, you are clearly clueless when it comes to bra sizing's and fitting. Have you personally ever fitted a woman for a bra?
It does not matter whether or not Curvy Kate is a UK fitter, DD is the same in BOTH COUNTRIES! It only diverges further down the cup size chart.
Your method of bra fitting is as outdated as using leeches to cure sick patients.
Here is Victoria Secret's guide
https://www.victoriassecret.com/us/vs/bras/how-to-measure-bras
Take the picture below of Tiffany Towers, what a poorly fitting bra.
The straps are digging into her shoulders, the bit in the middle should fit flush to the breastbone and there should be no gap between the bottom of the bra and the body.
Let's face it, bra sizes for models in the past were just plucked out of the air since they assumed that people thought anything over DD was huge anyway.
❤️
Post by: T Dog 101 on December 18, 2020, 02:21:27 PM
Post by: phonehome1 on December 18, 2020, 03:25:21 PM
Yes, professional bra fitters are all wrong and you are right. Hmmmm. I don't think so.
Dude, you are clearly clueless when it comes to bra sizing's and fitting. Have you personally ever fitted a woman for a bra?
It does not matter whether or not Curvy Kate is a UK fitter, DD is the same in BOTH COUNTRIES! It only diverges further down the cup size chart.
Your method of bra fitting is as outdated as using leeches to cure sick patients.
Here is Victoria Secret's guide
https://www.victoriassecret.com/us/vs/bras/how-to-measure-bras
Take the picture below of Tiffany Towers, what a poorly fitting bra.
The straps are digging into her shoulders, the bit in the middle should fit flush to the breastbone and there should be no gap between the bottom of the bra and the body.
Let's face it, bra sizes for models in the past were just plucked out of the air since they assumed that people thought anything over DD was huge anyway.
So you would have us all believe the Christy Canyon and all the Christy Canyon clones out there that have been wearing 36DD's for decades , that NONE of then ever got fitted a "professional bra fitter" in the US ?
No it is NO SURPRISE AT ALL the "professional bra fitters" IN THE UK would NOW 20 years down the line be using this "lets make then SOUND BIGGER" " system
So DD's are the same size no matter, Is that your claim ??
Use your F--king eyes man
Take a picture of Christy Canyon who is 5'7" about 125 and been a 36DD for DECADES next to a simular build UK model who is 5'7" about 125 and she will claim to be a band size or 30 or 32 and if she claims to be a DD she will look TINY by comparison
Go back a few pages and look at the pic posted of what a supposed "real DD" looks like
EXPLAIN THAT
G's and H's are as common as some would have us believe and yet Victoria Secret doesn't even sell anything bigger than an F ?
EXPLAIN THAT
Models from the UK, in the 80's and 90's an era where "exaggeration" was COMMON, models such as the ones I listed who I am SURE a certain poster would now "fit via picture" and say they must be J cups or something like that NEVER claimed to be those "bigger sounding" sizes
EXPLAIN THAT
It was not until the early 00's that anyone, at least outside the Uk had eve even heard of this UK sizing system and it was also right about the same time that this, "there must be something in the water" narrative that said that UK women were so much more busty than women else where, in the US in particular. "all the sudden" LDM lookalikes, height weight, overall build were J's and K's and L's and their band sizes were smaller despite the fact that more than few of them looked to have higher BF/BMI
That is/was all just some big weird coincidence ??
EXPLAIN THAT
I used the analogy of penis size measurement
If you measure one way you are 6 inches, measure another way you are 8 maybe 8 1/2
If you want to SOUND BIGGER" which method do you use ?
The UK system makes women SOUND BIGGER, they are NOT, the "eye test" tells us they are not
But which do you use if you want to SOUND BIGGER ?
Post by: Margaret on December 18, 2020, 03:37:25 PM
Yes, professional bra fitters are all wrong and you are right. Hmmmm. I don't think so.
Dude, you are clearly clueless when it comes to bra sizing's and fitting. Have you personally ever fitted a woman for a bra?
It does not matter whether or not Curvy Kate is a UK fitter, DD is the same in BOTH COUNTRIES! It only diverges further down the cup size chart.
Your method of bra fitting is as outdated as using leeches to cure sick patients.
Here is Victoria Secret's guide
https://www.victoriassecret.com/us/vs/bras/how-to-measure-bras
Take the picture below of Tiffany Towers, what a poorly fitting bra.
The straps are digging into her shoulders, the bit in the middle should fit flush to the breastbone and there should be no gap between the bottom of the bra and the body.
Let's face it, bra sizes for models in the past were just plucked out of the air since they assumed that people thought anything over DD was huge anyway.
So you would have us all believe the Christy Canyon and all the Christy Canyon clones out there that have been wearing 36DD's for decades , that NONE of then ever got fitted a "professional bra fitter" in the US ?
No it is NO SURPRISE AT ALL the "professional bra fitters" IN THE UK would NOW 20 years down the line be using this "lets make then SOUND BIGGER" " system
So DD's are the same size no matter, Is that your claim ??
Use your F--king eyes man
Take a picture of Christy Canyon who is 5'7" about 125 and been a 36DD for DECADES next to a simular build UK model who is 5'7" about 125 and she will claim to be a band size or 30 or 32 and if she claims to be a DD she will look TINY by comparison
Go back a few pages and look at the pic posted of what a supposed "real DD" looks like
EXPLAIN THAT
G's and H's are as common as some would have us believe and yet Victoria Secret doesn't even sell anything bigger than an F ?
EXPLAIN THAT
Models from the UK, in the 80's and 90's an era where "exaggeration" was COMMON, models such as the ones I listed who I am SURE a certain poster would now "fit via picture" and say they must be J cups or something like that NEVER claimed to be those "bigger sounding" sizes
EXPLAIN THAT
It was not until the early 00's that anyone, at least outside the Uk had eve even heard of this UK sizing system and it was also right about the same time that this, "there must be something in the water" narrative that said that UK women were so much more busty than women else where, in the US in particular. "all the sudden" LDM lookalikes, height weight, overall build were J's and K's and L's and their band sizes were smaller despite the fact that more than few of them looked to have higher BF/BMI
That is/was all just some big weird coincidence ??
EXPLAIN THAT
I used the analogy of penis size measurement
If you measure one way you are 6 inches, measure another way you are 8 maybe 8 1/2
If you want to SOUND BIGGER" which method do you use ?
The UK system makes women SOUND BIGGER, they are NOT, the "eye test" tells us they are not
But which do you use if you want to SOUND BIGGER ?
There are answers to all these idiotic questions, but I feel it would be a monumental waste of time and energy attempting to explain them to you, because a) you wouldn’t understand them, and b) you would just keep repeating this nonsense in the hope that people would just accept what you’re saying is fact. It’s bordering on conspiracy theory gibberish.
If I could put it like this: based on the things you keep repeating, you simply don’t understand how contemporary bra sizing works (or how it worked in the past) and you don’t have the slightest idea how bras are designed and manufactured (or why).
Also, you’re a man; normally, I’d be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but unless you have boobs and have worn bras on a daily basis since you were 11 years old, you would be as well giving up lecturing a woman (especially an educated bra enthusiast) about bras.
Post by: salem on December 18, 2020, 04:32:49 PM
Yes, professional bra fitters are all wrong and you are right. Hmmmm. I don't think so.
Dude, you are clearly clueless when it comes to bra sizing's and fitting. Have you personally ever fitted a woman for a bra?
It does not matter whether or not Curvy Kate is a UK fitter, DD is the same in BOTH COUNTRIES! It only diverges further down the cup size chart.
Your method of bra fitting is as outdated as using leeches to cure sick patients.
Here is Victoria Secret's guide
https://www.victoriassecret.com/us/vs/bras/how-to-measure-bras
Take the picture below of Tiffany Towers, what a poorly fitting bra.
The straps are digging into her shoulders, the bit in the middle should fit flush to the breastbone and there should be no gap between the bottom of the bra and the body.
Let's face it, bra sizes for models in the past were just plucked out of the air since they assumed that people thought anything over DD was huge anyway.
So you would have us all believe the Christy Canyon and all the Christy Canyon clones out there that have been wearing 36DD's for decades , that NONE of then ever got fitted a "professional bra fitter" in the US ?
No it is NO SURPRISE AT ALL the "professional bra fitters" IN THE UK would NOW 20 years down the line be using this "lets make then SOUND BIGGER" " system
So DD's are the same size no matter, Is that your claim ??
Use your F--king eyes man
Take a picture of Christy Canyon who is 5'7" about 125 and been a 36DD for DECADES next to a simular build UK model who is 5'7" about 125 and she will claim to be a band size or 30 or 32 and if she claims to be a DD she will look TINY by comparison
Go back a few pages and look at the pic posted of what a supposed "real DD" looks like
EXPLAIN THAT
G's and H's are as common as some would have us believe and yet Victoria Secret doesn't even sell anything bigger than an F ?
EXPLAIN THAT
Models from the UK, in the 80's and 90's an era where "exaggeration" was COMMON, models such as the ones I listed who I am SURE a certain poster would now "fit via picture" and say they must be J cups or something like that NEVER claimed to be those "bigger sounding" sizes
EXPLAIN THAT
It was not until the early 00's that anyone, at least outside the Uk had eve even heard of this UK sizing system and it was also right about the same time that this, "there must be something in the water" narrative that said that UK women were so much more busty than women else where, in the US in particular. "all the sudden" LDM lookalikes, height weight, overall build were J's and K's and L's and their band sizes were smaller despite the fact that more than few of them looked to have higher BF/BMI
That is/was all just some big weird coincidence ??
EXPLAIN THAT
I used the analogy of penis size measurement
If you measure one way you are 6 inches, measure another way you are 8 maybe 8 1/2
If you want to SOUND BIGGER" which method do you use ?
The UK system makes women SOUND BIGGER, they are NOT, the "eye test" tells us they are not
But which do you use if you want to SOUND BIGGER ?
We don't need to explain anything, a professional bra fitter would laugh in your face.
I did 'use my eyes', I supplied a bra size graphic US to UK comparison . Why don't you open yours?
I can't help it if some women in the US think they are a DD when they clearly are not.
Bottom line, bra sizing has changed since bra's were first made, get used to it.
Post by: phonehome1 on December 18, 2020, 06:45:28 PM
Yes, professional bra fitters are all wrong and you are right. Hmmmm. I don't think so.
Dude, you are clearly clueless when it comes to bra sizing's and fitting. Have you personally ever fitted a woman for a bra?
It does not matter whether or not Curvy Kate is a UK fitter, DD is the same in BOTH COUNTRIES! It only diverges further down the cup size chart.
Your method of bra fitting is as outdated as using leeches to cure sick patients.
Here is Victoria Secret's guide
https://www.victoriassecret.com/us/vs/bras/how-to-measure-bras
Take the picture below of Tiffany Towers, what a poorly fitting bra.
The straps are digging into her shoulders, the bit in the middle should fit flush to the breastbone and there should be no gap between the bottom of the bra and the body.
Let's face it, bra sizes for models in the past were just plucked out of the air since they assumed that people thought anything over DD was huge anyway.
So you would have us all believe the Christy Canyon and all the Christy Canyon clones out there that have been wearing 36DD's for decades , that NONE of then ever got fitted a "professional bra fitter" in the US ?
No it is NO SURPRISE AT ALL the "professional bra fitters" IN THE UK would NOW 20 years down the line be using this "lets make then SOUND BIGGER" " system
So DD's are the same size no matter, Is that your claim ??
Use your F--king eyes man
Take a picture of Christy Canyon who is 5'7" about 125 and been a 36DD for DECADES next to a simular build UK model who is 5'7" about 125 and she will claim to be a band size or 30 or 32 and if she claims to be a DD she will look TINY by comparison
Go back a few pages and look at the pic posted of what a supposed "real DD" looks like
EXPLAIN THAT
G's and H's are as common as some would have us believe and yet Victoria Secret doesn't even sell anything bigger than an F ?
EXPLAIN THAT
Models from the UK, in the 80's and 90's an era where "exaggeration" was COMMON, models such as the ones I listed who I am SURE a certain poster would now "fit via picture" and say they must be J cups or something like that NEVER claimed to be those "bigger sounding" sizes
EXPLAIN THAT
It was not until the early 00's that anyone, at least outside the Uk had eve even heard of this UK sizing system and it was also right about the same time that this, "there must be something in the water" narrative that said that UK women were so much more busty than women else where, in the US in particular. "all the sudden" LDM lookalikes, height weight, overall build were J's and K's and L's and their band sizes were smaller despite the fact that more than few of them looked to have higher BF/BMI
That is/was all just some big weird coincidence ??
EXPLAIN THAT
I used the analogy of penis size measurement
If you measure one way you are 6 inches, measure another way you are 8 maybe 8 1/2
If you want to SOUND BIGGER" which method do you use ?
The UK system makes women SOUND BIGGER, they are NOT, the "eye test" tells us they are not
But which do you use if you want to SOUND BIGGER ?
We don't need to explain anything, a professional bra fitter would laugh in your face.
I did 'use my eyes', I supplied a bra size graphic US to UK comparison . Why don't you open yours?
I can't help it if some women in the US think they are a DD when they clearly are not.
Bottom line, bra sizing has changed since bra's were first made, get used to it.
Odds are good that that "professional bra fitter" who would "laugh in my face " lives /works in the UK
Graphics and pics, pics of ACTUAL WOMEN are two entirely different things.
Yes sure "bra sizing" at least in the UK has changed, I get, I have always got that
Here is my "bottom line" question WHY??
They made this change FOR A REASON
What was the motivation behind making this change ??
If it was not just so women, UK women at least to start with, could all the sudden start claiming to be F to J cups which is pretty much want happened, the "end result" if you will then what was it ???
All I ever get is "the change was made, don't ask why"
IF you DON"T KNOW the "why" then just SAY you don't know !!!
Post by: Margaret on December 19, 2020, 03:11:10 AM
Yes, professional bra fitters are all wrong and you are right. Hmmmm. I don't think so.
Dude, you are clearly clueless when it comes to bra sizing's and fitting. Have you personally ever fitted a woman for a bra?
It does not matter whether or not Curvy Kate is a UK fitter, DD is the same in BOTH COUNTRIES! It only diverges further down the cup size chart.
Your method of bra fitting is as outdated as using leeches to cure sick patients.
Here is Victoria Secret's guide
https://www.victoriassecret.com/us/vs/bras/how-to-measure-bras
Take the picture below of Tiffany Towers, what a poorly fitting bra.
The straps are digging into her shoulders, the bit in the middle should fit flush to the breastbone and there should be no gap between the bottom of the bra and the body.
Let's face it, bra sizes for models in the past were just plucked out of the air since they assumed that people thought anything over DD was huge anyway.
So you would have us all believe the Christy Canyon and all the Christy Canyon clones out there that have been wearing 36DD's for decades , that NONE of then ever got fitted a "professional bra fitter" in the US ?
No it is NO SURPRISE AT ALL the "professional bra fitters" IN THE UK would NOW 20 years down the line be using this "lets make then SOUND BIGGER" " system
So DD's are the same size no matter, Is that your claim ??
Use your F--king eyes man
Take a picture of Christy Canyon who is 5'7" about 125 and been a 36DD for DECADES next to a simular build UK model who is 5'7" about 125 and she will claim to be a band size or 30 or 32 and if she claims to be a DD she will look TINY by comparison
Go back a few pages and look at the pic posted of what a supposed "real DD" looks like
EXPLAIN THAT
G's and H's are as common as some would have us believe and yet Victoria Secret doesn't even sell anything bigger than an F ?
EXPLAIN THAT
Models from the UK, in the 80's and 90's an era where "exaggeration" was COMMON, models such as the ones I listed who I am SURE a certain poster would now "fit via picture" and say they must be J cups or something like that NEVER claimed to be those "bigger sounding" sizes
EXPLAIN THAT
It was not until the early 00's that anyone, at least outside the Uk had eve even heard of this UK sizing system and it was also right about the same time that this, "there must be something in the water" narrative that said that UK women were so much more busty than women else where, in the US in particular. "all the sudden" LDM lookalikes, height weight, overall build were J's and K's and L's and their band sizes were smaller despite the fact that more than few of them looked to have higher BF/BMI
That is/was all just some big weird coincidence ??
EXPLAIN THAT
I used the analogy of penis size measurement
If you measure one way you are 6 inches, measure another way you are 8 maybe 8 1/2
If you want to SOUND BIGGER" which method do you use ?
The UK system makes women SOUND BIGGER, they are NOT, the "eye test" tells us they are not
But which do you use if you want to SOUND BIGGER ?
We don't need to explain anything, a professional bra fitter would laugh in your face.
I did 'use my eyes', I supplied a bra size graphic US to UK comparison . Why don't you open yours?
I can't help it if some women in the US think they are a DD when they clearly are not.
Bottom line, bra sizing has changed since bra's were first made, get used to it.
Odds are good that that "professional bra fitter" who would "laugh in my face " lives /works in the UK
Graphics and pics, pics of ACTUAL WOMEN are two entirely different things.
Yes sure "bra sizing" at least in the UK has changed, I get, I have always got that
Here is my "bottom line" question WHY??
They made this change FOR A REASON
What was the motivation behind making this change ??
If it was not just so women, UK women at least to start with, could all the sudden start claiming to be F to J cups which is pretty much want happened, the "end result" if you will then what was it ???
All I ever get is "the change was made, don't ask why"
IF you DON"T KNOW the "why" then just SAY you don't know !!!
I feel I need to see this out. Do you genuinely think the reason bra sizing and fitting was changed in the UK was to make women sound as though they have huge boobs?
I ask this, because I *do* know why the change was made - and this isn’t why. I suspect you *don’t* know why it was made.
Post by: phonehome1 on December 19, 2020, 11:24:47 AM
Yes, professional bra fitters are all wrong and you are right. Hmmmm. I don't think so.
Dude, you are clearly clueless when it comes to bra sizing's and fitting. Have you personally ever fitted a woman for a bra?
It does not matter whether or not Curvy Kate is a UK fitter, DD is the same in BOTH COUNTRIES! It only diverges further down the cup size chart.
Your method of bra fitting is as outdated as using leeches to cure sick patients.
Here is Victoria Secret's guide
https://www.victoriassecret.com/us/vs/bras/how-to-measure-bras
Take the picture below of Tiffany Towers, what a poorly fitting bra.
The straps are digging into her shoulders, the bit in the middle should fit flush to the breastbone and there should be no gap between the bottom of the bra and the body.
Let's face it, bra sizes for models in the past were just plucked out of the air since they assumed that people thought anything over DD was huge anyway.
So you would have us all believe the Christy Canyon and all the Christy Canyon clones out there that have been wearing 36DD's for decades , that NONE of then ever got fitted a "professional bra fitter" in the US ?
No it is NO SURPRISE AT ALL the "professional bra fitters" IN THE UK would NOW 20 years down the line be using this "lets make then SOUND BIGGER" " system
So DD's are the same size no matter, Is that your claim ??
Use your F--king eyes man
Take a picture of Christy Canyon who is 5'7" about 125 and been a 36DD for DECADES next to a simular build UK model who is 5'7" about 125 and she will claim to be a band size or 30 or 32 and if she claims to be a DD she will look TINY by comparison
Go back a few pages and look at the pic posted of what a supposed "real DD" looks like
EXPLAIN THAT
G's and H's are as common as some would have us believe and yet Victoria Secret doesn't even sell anything bigger than an F ?
EXPLAIN THAT
Models from the UK, in the 80's and 90's an era where "exaggeration" was COMMON, models such as the ones I listed who I am SURE a certain poster would now "fit via picture" and say they must be J cups or something like that NEVER claimed to be those "bigger sounding" sizes
EXPLAIN THAT
It was not until the early 00's that anyone, at least outside the Uk had eve even heard of this UK sizing system and it was also right about the same time that this, "there must be something in the water" narrative that said that UK women were so much more busty than women else where, in the US in particular. "all the sudden" LDM lookalikes, height weight, overall build were J's and K's and L's and their band sizes were smaller despite the fact that more than few of them looked to have higher BF/BMI
That is/was all just some big weird coincidence ??
EXPLAIN THAT
I used the analogy of penis size measurement
If you measure one way you are 6 inches, measure another way you are 8 maybe 8 1/2
If you want to SOUND BIGGER" which method do you use ?
The UK system makes women SOUND BIGGER, they are NOT, the "eye test" tells us they are not
But which do you use if you want to SOUND BIGGER ?
We don't need to explain anything, a professional bra fitter would laugh in your face.
I did 'use my eyes', I supplied a bra size graphic US to UK comparison . Why don't you open yours?
I can't help it if some women in the US think they are a DD when they clearly are not.
Bottom line, bra sizing has changed since bra's were first made, get used to it.
Odds are good that that "professional bra fitter" who would "laugh in my face " lives /works in the UK
Graphics and pics, pics of ACTUAL WOMEN are two entirely different things.
Yes sure "bra sizing" at least in the UK has changed, I get, I have always got that
Here is my "bottom line" question WHY??
They made this change FOR A REASON
What was the motivation behind making this change ??
If it was not just so women, UK women at least to start with, could all the sudden start claiming to be F to J cups which is pretty much want happened, the "end result" if you will then what was it ???
All I ever get is "the change was made, don't ask why"
IF you DON"T KNOW the "why" then just SAY you don't know !!!
I feel I need to see this out. Do you genuinely think the reason bra sizing and fitting was changed in the UK was to make women sound as though they have huge boobs?
I ask this, because I *do* know why the change was made - and this isn’t why. I suspect you *don’t* know why it was made.
Here is what i more than think, it is what i pretty much KNOW
In the mid 90's in magazines such as Gent, Score and others that existed at the time who had been doing spreads of almost exclusively women with large implants, Melisa Mounds, one of the first, and kayla Kllevage, Wendy Whoppers, Lisa Lipps and Tiffany Towers among MANY others for a good 10 years started doing spreads of LDM, Lorna Morgan, Kerry Marie the first of what became known as "the all natural girls" all of whom stated their sizes using the US standard, IE LDM said she wasa 36H and and with a few exception were all from the UK and after about 5 to 7 years, the early 00's that was all they were running and while they did have larger breasts they were also clearly packing on the pounds and had higher BF/BMI then any of those implanted girls were at the same ages and about that same time there became this narrative, what I call the "there must be something in the water" narrative, because "magazine writers" among other were literally saying or "wondering" about that.
Someone literally wrote that line, I remember reading it. I did not "just make it up on my own"
The narrative was that LDM and the others were by no means exceptions or at all rare that UK women were all cups sizes bigger that other women, US women in particular where the average size for decades had been 36C The "eye test" of women of similar height weight and overall build said it was not true when actual measurements where done using the US standard so as to get and "apples to apples: comparison were done UK women were about a 1/2 to ONE cup size bigger and that looked like could often attributed to then having a higher BF/BMI
It was about this same time the early 00's that we, outside the UK started hearing about this new way of measuring bra sizes AKA "the UK system" which was "different" than the US standard in 2 specific ways. Band sizes were smaller, 30 inches almost the norm 28 not all that rare and more than few 26's which in the US for all practical purposes aside for some "little people" did not even exist and cup sizes were bigger and bigger by A LOT F's were seemingly everywhere and you did not need to look hard at all to find H's or even bigger.
All that actually happened
Ask anybody who was around at the time.
Also I pretty much know that you were not going to get millions and millions of US woman to wear for years and years "the wrong size bra" women who according to you should be in 30's or 32's who are all in 34's and 36's all ultra loose with 2, 3 4 inches of slack, they never ever 'just to see how it it might fit" took a smaller band size off the rack at Macy's or Wal-Mart or where ever and try it on ?? That is as likely as a guy who should wear 34 waist jeans and could squeeze into 32' wearing 38's or maybe 40's for years and years, always all falling down and never pulling a pair of 34's off the rack just to see how they fit. And also if that does not cast enough doubt if you will,the final nail in the coffin, so to speak is as i said before and I am sure you can find many other similar age American men who will say much the same thing, I never ever in 40 years of doing it when i went to reach back there and unhook a woman's bra found it all loose like it would be if it was 2 to 4 inches "too big"
If anything they were TOO TIGHT
Were I and they were "lucky enough" to find those few US women who somehow someway blundered there way into wearing the right size bra which was normally band size 34 to 38 and cup size B to if we were "lucky" DD We know because we bought them or we looked when we had chance so we could buy others B-day valentines whatever
So IF it was NOT to "advance the narrative" which it just so happened to have done and it is NOT "accuracy" IE ""they are all wearing the wrong size" which does not stand up to any kind of practical logic for the reasons I gave then the "real reason" is/was WHAT ???
Post by: Margaret on December 19, 2020, 06:08:11 PM
For decades (roughly from the 1950s onwards), bras were mass-manufactured with absolutely no standards based on the shape, fit or design - other than generational iterative changes in design techniques and the manufacturing process. No wide-ranging research was conducted into the incalculable variances of female body shapes, heights, weights or body frames - not to mention absolutely zero research being carried out into breast sizes, shapes and form - let alone how these two interconnect to create millions of potential combinations of body shape/size and boobs shape/size. This is because there are rarely two women who are alike in both aspects (ie. body shape/size and boob shape/size).
Averaging doesn’t help either, because all averaging tells you is that x number of women are roughly the same height/body mass, but it doesn’t take into account the differences in the shape and size of the two breasts on those individual “average” bodies. The combinations would each so unique as to be impossible to determine - although, it’s likely there would be some convergence - but not a lot. You’d quickly discover that you have an entire population of women who are average height of 5’4” and average weight of 170lb. But their boobs are all going to be different - so the averaging of boob sizes across that given average height and weight is going to vary wildly. And that’s just across the average weight and height. You have variances in boob sizes across each average height-weight category; short, overweight women with small boobs; short, overweight women with moderate sized boobs; short overweight women with big boobs. Then you have tall slim women with small boobs or big boobs, tall overweight women with small boobs, or big boobs - and on and on and on. It’s an almost endless series of potential combinations, unlike any other aspect of sizing clothing or accessory for another body part (eg. feet, legs, arms etc).
So, let’s say you’re a textiles manufacturer, and you have to decide how you’re going to design and manufacture your bras for the mass market. How do you do it?
Do you try and accommodate every possible combination of body frame (ie. back band) and every possible combination of boob size? No. Because that would be insane. You’d be as well setting up a bespoke bra tailoring service and dealing with each customer who comes in to shop for bras on an individual basis. Niche, expensive and not profitable at scale.
Do you create a modular bra that allows women to pick a band size that fits, then swap out the cups that fit their boobs? No, that would never work either - it's too complicated and too expensive and too fussy and error-prone (although, it's a decent idea in principle).
Do you create a wide range of bras in different cups and different back bands that covers as many possible body shapes and types as you can possibly think of? No. Because to do so would require an extensive production line process that takes into account lots of different sizes of each component for each potential size of bra. I don’t know if you’re aware, but bras are exceptionally complex garments. A typical bra design contains between 20-48 individual physical components, including over 12 pieces of fabric, two underwires, numerous threads, metal or plastic closures, elastic, lace, clasps, sliders, rings, bows and often other decorative components. It can take up to six months to design and prototype a bra with up to 50 people working on it, then the production process has to be streamlined so that the bras can be made to specification quickly, in volume and packaged/sold to the mass market. If you attempted to make every possible fit and size of bra, you’d expend all of your energy and time trying to cover every possibility, only to sell many of them in fairly small numbers. It's just not practicable or profitable.
What you do is you settle on a moderate range of bras that more-or-less fit women within certain ranges of back band and cup size across a given group - and you categorise all these bras accordingly, based on a band size and a cup size, and you make them in batches with volumes weighted towards the highest averages in each group. You decide that the bra will roughly fit to the circumference of their torso (underbust), and the cup size will be approximately the size around the fullest part of their boobs (overbust) - and it seems a logical conclusion that these two things could be combined to create a standardised system of bra size. ie. if you’re 38” in total across your overbust, it doesn’t matter what your underbust and overbust are measured and sized separately, because the overall size of the bra should roughly fit) However, because you might find that one woman is 34” around her underbust but 38” around her overbust, and another woman is 32” around underbustand 36” around her overbust - or worse, 33” around her back and 37” around her boobs, you need to find a way of standardising the measuring system or your bras are going to be all over the place and hugely expensive to produce - which is where the "plus four" system came in.
The plus four system began in the 1950s when bras were mostly made from silk and satin - and did not stretch; the extra 4 inches extra allowed for breathing room (something which is now completely redundant as all bras now have elastic and stretch in them). The cup sizing system actually originated from the 1930s, but wasn’t particularly science-based, other than rough comparisons to everyday objects such as egg cups and bowls.
When the plus four system was settled on, it allowed manufacturers to roughly estimate a given bra size and cup size but figuring out the difference between the overbust and underbust measurements to produce a range of bras accordingly.
As part of this process, to derive band size, 4 inches were added to an even underbust measurement and fiveinches were added to an odd chest circumference measurement. Cup size was calculated by measuring the overbust, and the difference between bust size and the band size then dictated cup size.
So, for example if a woman measured her underbust (below her boobs - but oddly, sometimes above her boobs) and it came out as 30”, she then added four to that figure to reach a “band size” of 36 (she would add five if it was an odd number).
She then measured across the fullest part of her bust (the overbust) and, let's say the number she obtained was 38”. So, to determine her cup size, she would subtract the band size from the overbust size and the difference between the two measurements would determine her cup size - in this case 2. Upon consulting the bra size chart, this pointed to a cup size of C. Or, a 36C bra. See below.
The chart went something like this when the difference was calculated:
<1 = AA cup
0 = A cup
1 = B cup
2 = C cup
3 = D cup
4 = DD cup
You’ll notice that the numbers are even, because bras were offered in "even" numbered sizes due to standardising the manufacturing process for efficiency and profit (see above).
It’s also worth noting how arbitrary and unscientific this process is; it doesn’t take into account odd numbered measurements, and requires the addition of four or five to the number because of a historical issue with using silk in the manufacturing of bras. The combination of letter and number literally means nothing - it doesn’t correspond to a physical measurement or metric, it’s just a designation on a chart. It might as well be a symbol or a colour. (Red smiley, green banana, yellow tree).
It’s wasn’t an ideal solution, because it’s not an exact science. For example, the woman buying one of your bras might be slim built and tall with big boobs - and the closest bra she can find is, say, a 36C, like above. But she’s not actually 36” underbust - she’s 32” underbust, but she had to add four - and she’s not quite 38” overbust. She’s more like 37.5” overbust, so the difference calculated isn’t accurate, which makes the final chart reference innacurate. So, her 36C bra doesn’t really fit her all that well - and the "36" doesn’t actually mean anything in real terms, and her band size and her cup size hasn’t actually been determined - it was literally plucked out of thin air by applying a bizarre equation to the process and consulting a chart created by an executive at a bra company (probably a man). But, it’s the closest size she can find - and, from a bra manufacturer’s perspective, it’s simpler to make bras in those sizes in large quantities, rather than trying to make lots of different variances of every possible bra size.
However, let’s take it further and do a real-life example: me. In the 1980s, I measured myself using this system and ordered bras from a mail order catalogue in the UK. Here’s what I ended up with:
Underbust: 32”
Add four: 36
Overbust measurement: 40”
Difference (36-40) = 8
But, wait... hold on. I go look at the chart and there is no "8". The closest I can get is 4 = DD. So, I'm a 36DD.
So, I order a 36DD bra - and it arrives, and it’s uncomfortable. The cups are way too tight, and the band is a bit loose. So I send it back and order a 38DD. With the 38DD, the cups are slightly more loose, but the band is way too loose now. So I send that one back and go back to the 36DD. And that’s the bra I wear for most of my adult life - a 36DD, because some chart said that was my bra size, and it sort-of fits, and I just get used to it - even though it kills me most days. Like most women, I simply wore whatever bra was closest to the measurements I determined, and whatever they corresponded to on the chart. Or, I tried a few bras on in a department store until I found something that mostly worked (which was an embarrasing and agnosing process). It was invariably a 36D or a 36DD - it wasn’t ideal, but this is how it was. I tried various techniques to make my bras more comfortable; moving in to the inner hooks, using the straps to pull my boobs up, sometimes even taking the bras apart, cutting them up and re-stitching them - but it was never ideal. This is what the mass manufacturing process did, and this is what women endured for decades.
So, what you ended up with is most of the “average” women who were in the market for a bra landing somewhere in the middle of this averaging range, usually around 34C-36D - because that’s all that was available to them, based on the insane measuring system and the available manufacturing process. Put simply: cups didn’t go above DD, and bands rarely went above 38. This was the same in the US and the UK for decades.
Then, around the late 80s, early 90s, some manufacturers started realising that their chart system wasn’t accommodating the increasing average boob sizes of women, so they added a few more letters and made the bras a little bit bigger. We got DDD in the USA, and E and F in the UK. However, things didn’t change much - because most women kept on wearing the size they thought they were, and manufacturers kept making the bras the same way they had for years. Bigger bras were more expensive too, because there’s more material in them, and they required changes in the manufacturing process to accommodate quirky sizes. Not all companies made them, some came and went. Often, the only way you could get a bigger bra was to go for a "granny bra" made by Playtex or Triumph - an old-fashioned support bra that came in bigger bands and cup sizes, like XXL, or XXXL.
Around this time is when your “big bust” models start appearing on the scene - eg. Samantha Fox in the UK during the 80s, and various other Page Three models with big-ish boobs, citing their bra sizes as “32C” and “34D” or, sometimes, if they looked really big, “36DD”. And then, DD became synonymous with “big boobs”. I had a 36DD bra, so I was Miss big tits. This was no different in the USA with the explosion of enhanced models - and throughout the 90s, with models like Linsey Mackenzie and all the other models I’ve become familiar with here on the BEA over the years. Around the 80s and 90s we start to see the emergence of "fantasy" bra sizes with women like Tina Small and Lolo Ferrari, then Jordan and Pamela Anderson - where there’s no real way of knowing what bra size they are, because their bras were custom-made and didn’t conform to known designs or come from the established “bra chart” determined by the plus four method. Bra letters like H, J, JJ start to emerge beyond F, FF and G (which were being used by natural models like Danni Ashe in the mid-90s, even though there were no standard sizing metrics in place yet). We also start to see numbers being thrown around like 42HHH and letters like P O and L and impossible numbers and other combinations of letters which were purely for marketing purposes and had no basis in fact. Most of these models would often wear store-bought, ill-fitting bras, or they would splash out on custom-made bras. Often, the bras they would wear in photos shoots would be crafted by costume designers, purely for the shoots.
Around the mid-90s, bra manufacturers also started modernising and opening up their ranges to bigger sizes - such as G, GG, H, HH, J, JJ. I know this, because I tried a few. We had the Wonderbra revolution, the Superbra revolution - and, in general, while average boob sizes didn’t necessarily get “bigger”, bras were being manufactured and sold by taking into account that there were “sizes” bigger than DD, and that boobs were things that could be measured in physical dimensions and classified more closely to their real-world sizes. Despite all this, there were no regulations governing bra measurements (although, in the 1970s, the European Market insisted on some basic guidelines around what and how boobs should be measured for a bra), and we had no global standard that unified companies. And why would there be? Bras are effectively an accessory made by competing entities. Of course, every company wants to be the market leader - and market leaders started to emerge.
Around this time (late 90s/early 2000s), we also start to see more articles about women wearing the wrong bra size. And, to this day, the majority of women are largely still wearing the wrong bra size - all because of an outdated measurement system that is not based on physical dimensions or variances in body shape. A recent article on the New York Times reports on a study that suggests 70-100% of women are wearing the wrong size. A staggering statistic. But hold on a sec - it isn't actually true. Why? BECAUSE THERE IS NO STANDARD FOR MEASURING AND FITTING BRAS. Women can't possibly be wearing the wrong size of bra if they don't know what their size is and no-one makes bras to set standards. However, the converse of this is actually true: if there is no standard sizing for bras, the chances are you're not wearing the *correct* bra for your bodyshape. ie. you are not FITTED correctly.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/10/style/lingerie-are-8-out-of-10-women-really-wearing-the-wrong-bra-size-a-bra-myth-busted.html
Then, along comes the “contemporary fitting method” - but not before the “war on plus four” - which was started by the Busts4Justice group around 2008 in the UK, when they railed against the British high street retailer Marks & Spencer with a grassroots campaign when the company started charging more for bras in the D+ range - all because there was more material costs in the manufacturing process, and larger bras sold in fewer numbers (they only sold in fewer numbers because women were wearing the wrong size all along and tended to purchase smaller sizes below D).
THIS is when bra sizing and fitting underwent a sea change - it literally had nothing to do with nude modelling, big-boobed models or some feeble attempt to make women sound like they had massive boobs by increasing the letters on their bra size. The Bust4Justice campaign in the UK was successful in turning around the M&S decision, and bras are now sold on an equitable basis, irrespective of their size (mostly).
Following this, new brands started to emerge for bigger-boobed women; Curvy Kate and Flirtelle were already on the market, as was Bravissimo, and the leading manufacturers started to introduce DD+ ranges; Lepel, Fantasie, Charnos, Triumph, Freya, Primadonna - and so on. Now, the market is awash with lots of different big bra manufacturers, and Polish brands are expanding (pardon the pun) globally.
And that’s when the new method of fitting and sizing started to spread (mostly in the UK, Europe and Russia - the USA is still stubbornly hanging on to the plus four method). It involves a combination of measuring, fitting, and sampling bras from different manufacturers before settling on your *fit*. And, most importantly, it’s based on physical dimensions, body shape, boob shape and form - in addition to comfort.
You start by taking some basic measurements (underbust and overbust) and working from there - only, this time, the inches correspond (approximately) to the physical dimensions of the bra; a 32” underbust would generally wear a 32 back bra (but not always); an underbust and overbust difference of 4” would roughly correspond to a D cup (but not always), hence, an underbust measurement of 32” and and overbust measurement of 40” would lead me to a 32FF bra (the difference is approximately made up by 8” of cup material - but it’s not always exact) - whereas a plus four measuring method would lead me to a 36DD bra.
I will NEVER wear a 36DD bra ever again - it's far too loose on the back band and far too tight in the cups.
However, in the US, they still use an addition/subtraction method to clue in the bra size, which is bewildering - because it can’t be done by measuring alone. You HAVE to try bras on, you HAVE to test if the back band is doing the support work, that it’s resting horizontal across the back, that the centre gore is snug against the sternum, that the boobs are encased in the cups and not spilling over, that the straps are not too tight - and numerous other things. I’ve measured friends and estimated their size with a tape, only to find they need to shift to a ‘sister’ size (one friend measured as a 34J but needs to wear a 36HH). I can go into much more detail about fitting - if you really want me to. I’d actually enjoy it.
The sizing systems are broadly the same in the USA; a US 32C is more or less the same as a UK 32C, but it starts to diverge slightly after DD - but there’s not a huge amount of variance.
So this leads us to a comparison with Tiffany, and brings us back to the point of this thread.
In the photo I’ve posted here there are four images:
1 Tiffany. I have no way of knowing what size of bra she is actually wearing in this photo - but as I said before, many websites listed her size as 32G/32FF. I’ve estimated her *actual* size (based on shape, height etc) as being 32K.
The photo in the middle is a woman wearing a 32K.
The third photo is a woman wearing a 32FF.
Now, PLEASE try to tell me that after all of this, you STILL think she's a 32FF and that modern bra sizing and fitting is "bullshit".
Post by: phonehome1 on December 19, 2020, 08:03:41 PM
Ok. In order to understand why the measuring and fitting process changed (and why "bra sizes' seem to have changed in your mind), you have to understand the system that was in place *before* it all changed (ie. the system in use in both in the UK and the USA). This was the so-called “plus four” system. And to understand why the “plus four” system was created in the first place, you have to understand the design and manufacturing process of bras - and, more importantly, what it’s like to wear one. This might take a while, and I don't expect you to understand it all - or agree with it, because you seem to have already made your mind up, based on bogus knowledge or entrenched views.
For decades (roughly from the 1950s onwards), bras were mass-manufactured with absolutely no standards based on the shape, fit or design - other than generational iterative changes in design techniques and the manufacturing process. No wide-ranging research was conducted into the incalculable variances of female body shapes, heights, weights or body frames - not to mention absolutely zero research being carried out into breast sizes, shapes and form - let alone how these two interconnect to create millions of potential combinations of body shape/size and boobs shape/size. This is because there are rarely two women who are alike in both aspects (ie. body shape/size and boob shape/size).
Averaging doesn’t help either, because all averaging tells you is that x number of women are roughly the same height/body mass, but it doesn’t take into account the differences in the shape and size of the two breasts on those individual “average” bodies. The combinations would each so unique as to be impossible to determine - although, it’s likely there would be some convergence - but not a lot. You’d quickly discover that you have an entire population of women who are average height of 5’4” and average weight of 170lb. But their boobs are all going to be different - so the averaging of boob sizes across that given average height and weight is going to vary wildly. And that’s just across the average weight and height. You have variances in boob sizes across each average height-weight category; short, overweight women with small boobs; short, overweight women with moderate sized boobs; short overweight women with big boobs. Then you have tall slim women with small boobs or big boobs, tall overweight women with small boobs, or big boobs - and on and on and on. It’s an almost endless series of potential combinations, unlike any other aspect of sizing clothing or accessory for another body part (eg. feet, legs, arms etc).
So, let’s say you’re a textiles manufacturer, and you have to decide how you’re going to design and manufacture your bras for the mass market. How do you do it?
Do you try and accommodate every possible combination of body frame (ie. back band) and every possible combination of boob size? No. Because that would be insane. You’d be as well setting up a bespoke bra tailoring service and dealing with each customer who comes in to shop for bras on an individual basis. Niche, expensive and not profitable at scale.
Do you create a modular bra that allows women to pick a band size that fits, then swap out the cups that fit their boobs? No, that would never work either - it's too complicated and too expensive and too fussy and error-prone (although, it's a decent idea in principle).
Do you create a wide range of bras in different cups and different back bands that covers as many possible body shapes and types as you can possibly think of? No. Because to do so would require an extensive production line process that takes into account lots of different sizes of each component for each potential size of bra. I don’t know if you’re aware, but bras are exceptionally complex garments. A typical bra design contains between 20-48 individual physical components, including over 12 pieces of fabric, two underwires, numerous threads, metal or plastic closures, elastic, lace, clasps, sliders, rings, bows and often other decorative components. It can take up to six months to design and prototype a bra with up to 50 people working on it, then the production process has to be streamlined so that the bras can be made to specification quickly, in volume and packaged/sold to the mass market. If you attempted to make every possible fit and size of bra, you’d expend all of your energy and time trying to cover every possibility, only to sell many of them in fairly small numbers. It's just not practicable or profitable.
What you do is you settle on a moderate range of bras that more-or-less fit women within certain ranges of back band and cup size across a given group - and you categorise all these bras accordingly, based on a band size and a cup size, and you make them in batches with volumes weighted towards the highest averages in each group. You decide that the bra will roughly fit to the circumference of their torso (underbust), and the cup size will be approximately the size around the fullest part of their boobs (overbust) - and it seems a logical conclusion that these two things could be combined to create a standardised system of bra size. ie. if you’re 38” in total across your overbust, it doesn’t matter what your underbust and overbust are measured and sized separately, because the overall size of the bra should roughly fit) However, because you might find that one woman is 34” around her underbust but 38” around her overbust, and another woman is 32” around underbustand 36” around her overbust - or worse, 33” around her back and 37” around her boobs, you need to find a way of standardising the measuring system or your bras are going to be all over the place and hugely expensive to produce - which is where the "plus four" system came in.
The plus four system began in the 1950s when bras were mostly made from silk and satin - and did not stretch; the extra 4 inches extra allowed for breathing room (something which is now completely redundant as all bras now have elastic and stretch in them). The cup sizing system actually originated from the 1930s, but wasn’t particularly science-based, other than rough comparisons to everyday objects such as egg cups and bowls.
When the plus four system was settled on, it allowed manufacturers to roughly estimate a given bra size and cup size but figuring out the difference between the overbust and underbust measurements to produce a range of bras accordingly.
As part of this process, to derive band size, 4 inches were added to an even underbust measurement and fiveinches were added to an odd chest circumference measurement. Cup size was calculated by measuring the overbust, and the difference between bust size and the band size then dictated cup size.
So, for example if a woman measured her underbust (below her boobs - but oddly, sometimes above her boobs) and it came out as 30”, she then added four to that figure to reach a “band size” of 36 (she would add five if it was an odd number).
She then measured across the fullest part of her bust (the overbust) and, let's say the number she obtained was 38”. So, to determine her cup size, she would subtract the band size from the overbust size and the difference between the two measurements would determine her cup size - in this case 2. Upon consulting the bra size chart, this pointed to a cup size of C. Or, a 36C bra. See below.
The chart went something like this when the difference was calculated:
<1 = AA cup
0 = A cup
1 = B cup
2 = C cup
3 = D cup
4 = DD cup
You’ll notice that the numbers are even, because bras were offered in "even" numbered sizes due to standardising the manufacturing process for efficiency and profit (see above).
It’s also worth noting how arbitrary and unscientific this process is; it doesn’t take into account odd numbered measurements, and requires the addition of four or five to the number because of a historical issue with using silk in the manufacturing of bras. The combination of letter and number literally means nothing - it doesn’t correspond to a physical measurement or metric, it’s just a designation on a chart. It might as well be a symbol or a colour. (Red smiley, green banana, yellow tree).
It’s wasn’t an ideal solution, because it’s not an exact science. For example, the woman buying one of your bras might be slim built and tall with big boobs - and the closest bra she can find is, say, a 36C, like above. But she’s not actually 36” underbust - she’s 32” underbust, but she had to add four - and she’s not quite 38” overbust. She’s more like 37.5” overbust, so the difference calculated isn’t accurate, which makes the final chart reference innacurate. So, her 36C bra doesn’t really fit her all that well - and the "36" doesn’t actually mean anything in real terms, and her band size and her cup size hasn’t actually been determined - it was literally plucked out of thin air by applying a bizarre equation to the process and consulting a chart created by an executive at a bra company (probably a man). But, it’s the closest size she can find - and, from a bra manufacturer’s perspective, it’s simpler to make bras in those sizes in large quantities, rather than trying to make lots of different variances of every possible bra size.
However, let’s take it further and do a real-life example: me. In the 1980s, I measured myself using this system and ordered bras from a mail order catalogue in the UK. Here’s what I ended up with:
Underbust: 32”
Add four: 36
Overbust measurement: 40”
Difference (36-40) = 8
But, wait... hold on. I go look at the chart and there is no "8". The closest I can get is 4 = DD. So, I'm a 36DD.
So, I order a 36DD bra - and it arrives, and it’s uncomfortable. The cups are way too tight, and the band is a bit loose. So I send it back and order a 38DD. With the 38DD, the cups are slightly more loose, but the band is way too loose now. So I send that one back and go back to the 36DD. And that’s the bra I wear for most of my adult life - a 36DD, because some chart said that was my bra size, and it sort-of fits, and I just get used to it - even though it kills me most days. Like most women, I simply wore whatever bra was closest to the measurements I determined, and whatever they corresponded to on the chart. Or, I tried a few bras on in a department store until I found something that mostly worked (which was an embarrasing and agnosing process). It was invariably a 36D or a 36DD - it wasn’t ideal, but this is how it was. I tried various techniques to make my bras more comfortable; moving in to the inner hooks, using the straps to pull my boobs up, sometimes even taking the bras apart, cutting them up and re-stitching them - but it was never ideal. This is what the mass manufacturing process did, and this is what women endured for decades.
So, what you ended up with is most of the “average” women who were in the market for a bra landing somewhere in the middle of this averaging range, usually around 34C-36D - because that’s all that was available to them, based on the insane measuring system and the available manufacturing process. Put simply: cups didn’t go above DD, and bands rarely went above 38. This was the same in the US and the UK for decades.
Then, around the late 80s, early 90s, some manufacturers started realising that their chart system wasn’t accommodating the increasing average boob sizes of women, so they added a few more letters and made the bras a little bit bigger. We got DDD in the USA, and E and F in the UK. However, things didn’t change much - because most women kept on wearing the size they thought they were, and manufacturers kept making the bras the same way they had for years. Bigger bras were more expensive too, because there’s more material in them, and they required changes in the manufacturing process to accommodate quirky sizes. Not all companies made them, some came and went. Often, the only way you could get a bigger bra was to go for a "granny bra" made by Playtex or Triumph - an old-fashioned support bra that came in bigger bands and cup sizes, like XXL, or XXXL.
Around this time is when your “big bust” models start appearing on the scene - eg. Samantha Fox in the UK during the 80s, and various other Page Three models with big-ish boobs, citing their bra sizes as “32C” and “34D” or, sometimes, if they looked really big, “36DD”. And then, DD became synonymous with “big boobs”. I had a 36DD bra, so I was Miss big tits. This was no different in the USA with the explosion of enhanced models - and throughout the 90s, with models like Linsey Mackenzie and all the other models I’ve become familiar with here on the BEA over the years. Around the 80s and 90s we start to see the emergence of "fantasy" bra sizes with women like Tina Small and Lolo Ferrari, then Jordan and Pamela Anderson - where there’s no real way of knowing what bra size they are, because their bras were custom-made and didn’t conform to known designs or come from the established “bra chart” determined by the plus four method. Bra letters like H, J, JJ start to emerge beyond F, FF and G (which were being used by natural models like Danni Ashe in the mid-90s, even though there were no standard sizing metrics in place yet). We also start to see numbers being thrown around like 42HHH and letters like P O and L and impossible numbers and other combinations of letters which were purely for marketing purposes and had no basis in fact. Most of these models would often wear store-bought, ill-fitting bras, or they would splash out on custom-made bras. Often, the bras they would wear in photos shoots would be crafted by costume designers, purely for the shoots.
Around the mid-90s, bra manufacturers also started modernising and opening up their ranges to bigger sizes - such as G, GG, H, HH, J, JJ. I know this, because I tried a few. We had the Wonderbra revolution, the Superbra revolution - and, in general, while average boob sizes didn’t necessarily get “bigger”, bras were being manufactured and sold by taking into account that there were “sizes” bigger than DD, and that boobs were things that could be measured in physical dimensions and classified more closely to their real-world sizes. Despite all this, there were no regulations governing bra measurements (although, in the 1970s, the European Market insisted on some basic guidelines around what and how boobs should be measured for a bra), and we had no global standard that unified companies. And why would there be? Bras are effectively an accessory made by competing entities. Of course, every company wants to be the market leader - and market leaders started to emerge.
Around this time (late 90s/early 2000s), we also start to see more articles about women wearing the wrong bra size. And, to this day, the majority of women are largely still wearing the wrong bra size - all because of an outdated measurement system that is not based on physical dimensions or variances in body shape. A recent article on the New York Times reports on a study that suggests 70-100% of women are wearing the wrong size. A staggering statistic. But hold on a sec - it isn't actually true. Why? BECAUSE THERE IS NO STANDARD FOR MEASURING AND FITTING BRAS. Women can't possibly be wearing the wrong size of bra if they don't know what their size is and no-one makes bras to set standards. However, the converse of this is actually true: if there is no standard sizing for bras, the chances are you're not wearing the *correct* bra for your bodyshape. ie. you are not FITTED correctly.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/10/style/lingerie-are-8-out-of-10-women-really-wearing-the-wrong-bra-size-a-bra-myth-busted.html
Then, along comes the “contemporary fitting method” - but not before the “war on plus four” - which was started by the Busts4Justice group around 2008 in the UK, when they railed against the British high street retailer Marks & Spencer with a grassroots campaign when the company started charging more for bras in the D+ range - all because there was more material costs in the manufacturing process, and larger bras sold in fewer numbers (they only sold in fewer numbers because women were wearing the wrong size all along and tended to purchase smaller sizes below D).
THIS is when bra sizing and fitting underwent a sea change - it literally had nothing to do with nude modelling, big-boobed models or some feeble attempt to make women sound like they had massive boobs by increasing the letters on their bra size. The Bust4Justice campaign in the UK was successful in turning around the M&S decision, and bras are now sold on an equitable basis, irrespective of their size (mostly).
Following this, new brands started to emerge for bigger-boobed women; Curvy Kate and Flirtelle were already on the market, as was Bravissimo, and the leading manufacturers started to introduce DD+ ranges; Lepel, Fantasie, Charnos, Triumph, Freya, Primadonna - and so on. Now, the market is awash with lots of different big bra manufacturers, and Polish brands are expanding (pardon the pun) globally.
And that’s when the new method of fitting and sizing started to spread (mostly in the UK, Europe and Russia - the USA is still stubbornly hanging on to the plus four method). It involves a combination of measuring, fitting, and sampling bras from different manufacturers before settling on your *fit*. And, most importantly, it’s based on physical dimensions, body shape, boob shape and form - in addition to comfort.
You start by taking some basic measurements (underbust and overbust) and working from there - only, this time, the inches correspond (approximately) to the physical dimensions of the bra; a 32” underbust would generally wear a 32 back bra (but not always); an underbust and overbust difference of 4” would roughly correspond to a D cup (but not always), hence, an underbust measurement of 32” and and overbust measurement of 40” would lead me to a 32FF bra (the difference is approximately made up by 4” of cup material - but it’s not always exact) - whereas a plus four measuring method would lead me to a 36DD bra.
I will NEVER wear a 36DD bra ever again - it's far too loose on the back band and far too tight in the cups.
However, in the US, they still use an addition/subtraction method to clue in the bra size, which is bewildering - because it can’t be done by measuring alone. You HAVE to try bras on, you HAVE to test if the back band is doing the support work, that it’s resting horizontal across the back, that the centre gore is snug against the sternum, that the boobs are encased in the cups and not spilling over, that the straps are not too tight - and numerous other things. I’ve measured friends and estimated their size with a tape, only to find they need to shift to a ‘sister’ size (one friend measured as a 34J but needs to wear a 36HH). I can go into much more detail about fitting - if you really want me to. I’d actually enjoy it.
The sizing systems are broadly the same in the USA; a US 32C is more or less the same as a UK 32C, but it starts to diverge slightly after DD - but there’s not a huge amount of variance.
So this leads us to a comparison with Tiffany, and brings us back to the point of this thread.
In the photo I’ve posted here there are four images:
1 Tiffany. I have no way of knowing what size of bra she is actually wearing in this photo - but as I said before, many websites listed her size as 32G/32FF. I’ve estimated her *actual* size (based on shape, height etc) as being 32K.
The photo in the middle is a woman wearing a 32K.
The third photo is a woman wearing a 32FF.
Now, PLEASE try to tell me that after all of this, you STILL think she's a 32FF and that modern bra sizing and fitting is "bullshit".
Well thanks for the long repluy
I did already pretty much know a lot of this
I knew A LOT about the "plus 4 system" how it worked, the in and outs the ups and downs
By the time I became "familiar" with the subject the use of elastic was beyond common and the biggest reason that women have had to replace bras especially the bigger sizes is that after 6 months or so the elastic gets stretched out and once that happens then yes you would or could find all that slack.
Now I will admit I never got out a tape measure and measured one but I always assumed that the 34 or what ever number was the "stretched number" that if you measured it un-tstretched it was probably more like 30 to 32
When it came to teh idea that the vast majority of women were wearing the wrong size I could never see how that could be, Most retail shopping in teh US since teh 50's is "self service" you go into a retail store, Macy's, Saks 5th avenue the type of stores you might find on Rodeo drive on the high end, and for teh lower end, :the average shopper" from the 60 through the 80's stores like Sears, JC Peeny, K-mart which started to replaced in the 90's by Wal-Mart and target and someplace in teh middle stores like Victoria Secret
Go in any of them and you would see racks and racks of bras, band sizes from 32, maybe 30 but 32 FOR sure up to 38 to 40 maybe bigger and cup sizes from A to at least DD so the idea that a women, women capable, more than capable of "trying stuff on" for HOURS and never buying anything would/could not pick out a bunch of different band sizes and try each on until she found one that fit, not too tight, but not too loose and then try a bunch of cup sizes in that band size where she was not spilling out the top or sides although sometimes women did go look on purpose at least with certain bras anyway or be lost in one that was obviously too big made no sense as much sense as that guy wearing the 38 inch jeans that were way to big for forever and never trying on a pair of 34's just to see how they felt/fit.
Now I suppose it is possible that all those woman I had experience with always bought new bras when or before the elastic got stretched out and maybe they all lucked out and how ever they did cups sizes that appeared to be the correct size no bands that seemed way to long, no cups "overflowing" unless "on purpose" or not nearly filled enough has never been my experience None of them ever appeared to be in "the wrong sized bra" so this idea we started hearing about how almost all women WERE wearing the wrong sized bra seemed far fetched to say the least and did not match our experience
Now if you say that the UK sizing system got it start in 08 and it started as some kind of revolt against some department store I will not argue, I thought it was early when I first started hearing about it but it was long enough ago I could be off a little
Now as far as the "something must be in the water" narrative maybe it was not quite as prevalent in the UK and I do not know your age so maybe you were not around when it was at is it's height, it is not nearly as prevalent here in the US as it was 15 or so years ago but it was a definite thing, ask anyone especially in the US who was an adult boob loving male around at the time and they will tell you they heard it and then some and confirm it got it's start in the early oo's right at the time that that was all we saw in Magazines such as Score and vids
You could not find a "slim and stacked" implanted Tiffany Towers or Lisa Lipps type if your life depended on it.
So knowing those rwo separate set of facts and looking at it from a 2 + 2 = 4 approach the idea that one followed the other and were intertwined was an easy conclusion to jump to it seemed to "make perfect sense" and you have to admit that for someone on the outside looking in it sure did seem like a hell of a big coincidence even if in fact it just happened to happen that way.
When it comes to the pics I have always said from the start, take ANY WOMAN Tiffany Towers, Christy Canyon, Sam Foxx LDM who ever and measure her using the US method and you would get a certain result and if you measure her using the UK method and you would get different result the band size would be smaller and the cup size bigger
Now is Tiffany Towers really and truly wearing "the wrong size bra" when it is probably custom made anyway ?
No probably NOT
One method of measuring says it is ---- the other says it is ----
X weighs --- pounds or it weigh ---KG
Post by: solvegas on December 19, 2020, 10:05:46 PM
Post by: Margaret on December 20, 2020, 03:04:55 AM
Ok. In order to understand why the measuring and fitting process changed (and why "bra sizes' seem to have changed in your mind), you have to understand the system that was in place *before* it all changed (ie. the system in use in both in the UK and the USA). This was the so-called “plus four” system. And to understand why the “plus four” system was created in the first place, you have to understand the design and manufacturing process of bras - and, more importantly, what it’s like to wear one. This might take a while, and I don't expect you to understand it all - or agree with it, because you seem to have already made your mind up, based on bogus knowledge or entrenched views.
For decades (roughly from the 1950s onwards), bras were mass-manufactured with absolutely no standards based on the shape, fit or design - other than generational iterative changes in design techniques and the manufacturing process. No wide-ranging research was conducted into the incalculable variances of female body shapes, heights, weights or body frames - not to mention absolutely zero research being carried out into breast sizes, shapes and form - let alone how these two interconnect to create millions of potential combinations of body shape/size and boobs shape/size. This is because there are rarely two women who are alike in both aspects (ie. body shape/size and boob shape/size).
Averaging doesn’t help either, because all averaging tells you is that x number of women are roughly the same height/body mass, but it doesn’t take into account the differences in the shape and size of the two breasts on those individual “average” bodies. The combinations would each so unique as to be impossible to determine - although, it’s likely there would be some convergence - but not a lot. You’d quickly discover that you have an entire population of women who are average height of 5’4” and average weight of 170lb. But their boobs are all going to be different - so the averaging of boob sizes across that given average height and weight is going to vary wildly. And that’s just across the average weight and height. You have variances in boob sizes across each average height-weight category; short, overweight women with small boobs; short, overweight women with moderate sized boobs; short overweight women with big boobs. Then you have tall slim women with small boobs or big boobs, tall overweight women with small boobs, or big boobs - and on and on and on. It’s an almost endless series of potential combinations, unlike any other aspect of sizing clothing or accessory for another body part (eg. feet, legs, arms etc).
So, let’s say you’re a textiles manufacturer, and you have to decide how you’re going to design and manufacture your bras for the mass market. How do you do it?
Do you try and accommodate every possible combination of body frame (ie. back band) and every possible combination of boob size? No. Because that would be insane. You’d be as well setting up a bespoke bra tailoring service and dealing with each customer who comes in to shop for bras on an individual basis. Niche, expensive and not profitable at scale.
Do you create a modular bra that allows women to pick a band size that fits, then swap out the cups that fit their boobs? No, that would never work either - it's too complicated and too expensive and too fussy and error-prone (although, it's a decent idea in principle).
Do you create a wide range of bras in different cups and different back bands that covers as many possible body shapes and types as you can possibly think of? No. Because to do so would require an extensive production line process that takes into account lots of different sizes of each component for each potential size of bra. I don’t know if you’re aware, but bras are exceptionally complex garments. A typical bra design contains between 20-48 individual physical components, including over 12 pieces of fabric, two underwires, numerous threads, metal or plastic closures, elastic, lace, clasps, sliders, rings, bows and often other decorative components. It can take up to six months to design and prototype a bra with up to 50 people working on it, then the production process has to be streamlined so that the bras can be made to specification quickly, in volume and packaged/sold to the mass market. If you attempted to make every possible fit and size of bra, you’d expend all of your energy and time trying to cover every possibility, only to sell many of them in fairly small numbers. It's just not practicable or profitable.
What you do is you settle on a moderate range of bras that more-or-less fit women within certain ranges of back band and cup size across a given group - and you categorise all these bras accordingly, based on a band size and a cup size, and you make them in batches with volumes weighted towards the highest averages in each group. You decide that the bra will roughly fit to the circumference of their torso (underbust), and the cup size will be approximately the size around the fullest part of their boobs (overbust) - and it seems a logical conclusion that these two things could be combined to create a standardised system of bra size. ie. if you’re 38” in total across your overbust, it doesn’t matter what your underbust and overbust are measured and sized separately, because the overall size of the bra should roughly fit) However, because you might find that one woman is 34” around her underbust but 38” around her overbust, and another woman is 32” around underbustand 36” around her overbust - or worse, 33” around her back and 37” around her boobs, you need to find a way of standardising the measuring system or your bras are going to be all over the place and hugely expensive to produce - which is where the "plus four" system came in.
The plus four system began in the 1950s when bras were mostly made from silk and satin - and did not stretch; the extra 4 inches extra allowed for breathing room (something which is now completely redundant as all bras now have elastic and stretch in them). The cup sizing system actually originated from the 1930s, but wasn’t particularly science-based, other than rough comparisons to everyday objects such as egg cups and bowls.
When the plus four system was settled on, it allowed manufacturers to roughly estimate a given bra size and cup size but figuring out the difference between the overbust and underbust measurements to produce a range of bras accordingly.
As part of this process, to derive band size, 4 inches were added to an even underbust measurement and fiveinches were added to an odd chest circumference measurement. Cup size was calculated by measuring the overbust, and the difference between bust size and the band size then dictated cup size.
So, for example if a woman measured her underbust (below her boobs - but oddly, sometimes above her boobs) and it came out as 30”, she then added four to that figure to reach a “band size” of 36 (she would add five if it was an odd number).
She then measured across the fullest part of her bust (the overbust) and, let's say the number she obtained was 38”. So, to determine her cup size, she would subtract the band size from the overbust size and the difference between the two measurements would determine her cup size - in this case 2. Upon consulting the bra size chart, this pointed to a cup size of C. Or, a 36C bra. See below.
The chart went something like this when the difference was calculated:
<1 = AA cup
0 = A cup
1 = B cup
2 = C cup
3 = D cup
4 = DD cup
You’ll notice that the numbers are even, because bras were offered in "even" numbered sizes due to standardising the manufacturing process for efficiency and profit (see above).
It’s also worth noting how arbitrary and unscientific this process is; it doesn’t take into account odd numbered measurements, and requires the addition of four or five to the number because of a historical issue with using silk in the manufacturing of bras. The combination of letter and number literally means nothing - it doesn’t correspond to a physical measurement or metric, it’s just a designation on a chart. It might as well be a symbol or a colour. (Red smiley, green banana, yellow tree).
It’s wasn’t an ideal solution, because it’s not an exact science. For example, the woman buying one of your bras might be slim built and tall with big boobs - and the closest bra she can find is, say, a 36C, like above. But she’s not actually 36” underbust - she’s 32” underbust, but she had to add four - and she’s not quite 38” overbust. She’s more like 37.5” overbust, so the difference calculated isn’t accurate, which makes the final chart reference innacurate. So, her 36C bra doesn’t really fit her all that well - and the "36" doesn’t actually mean anything in real terms, and her band size and her cup size hasn’t actually been determined - it was literally plucked out of thin air by applying a bizarre equation to the process and consulting a chart created by an executive at a bra company (probably a man). But, it’s the closest size she can find - and, from a bra manufacturer’s perspective, it’s simpler to make bras in those sizes in large quantities, rather than trying to make lots of different variances of every possible bra size.
However, let’s take it further and do a real-life example: me. In the 1980s, I measured myself using this system and ordered bras from a mail order catalogue in the UK. Here’s what I ended up with:
Underbust: 32”
Add four: 36
Overbust measurement: 40”
Difference (36-40) = 8
But, wait... hold on. I go look at the chart and there is no "8". The closest I can get is 4 = DD. So, I'm a 36DD.
So, I order a 36DD bra - and it arrives, and it’s uncomfortable. The cups are way too tight, and the band is a bit loose. So I send it back and order a 38DD. With the 38DD, the cups are slightly more loose, but the band is way too loose now. So I send that one back and go back to the 36DD. And that’s the bra I wear for most of my adult life - a 36DD, because some chart said that was my bra size, and it sort-of fits, and I just get used to it - even though it kills me most days. Like most women, I simply wore whatever bra was closest to the measurements I determined, and whatever they corresponded to on the chart. Or, I tried a few bras on in a department store until I found something that mostly worked (which was an embarrasing and agnosing process). It was invariably a 36D or a 36DD - it wasn’t ideal, but this is how it was. I tried various techniques to make my bras more comfortable; moving in to the inner hooks, using the straps to pull my boobs up, sometimes even taking the bras apart, cutting them up and re-stitching them - but it was never ideal. This is what the mass manufacturing process did, and this is what women endured for decades.
So, what you ended up with is most of the “average” women who were in the market for a bra landing somewhere in the middle of this averaging range, usually around 34C-36D - because that’s all that was available to them, based on the insane measuring system and the available manufacturing process. Put simply: cups didn’t go above DD, and bands rarely went above 38. This was the same in the US and the UK for decades.
Then, around the late 80s, early 90s, some manufacturers started realising that their chart system wasn’t accommodating the increasing average boob sizes of women, so they added a few more letters and made the bras a little bit bigger. We got DDD in the USA, and E and F in the UK. However, things didn’t change much - because most women kept on wearing the size they thought they were, and manufacturers kept making the bras the same way they had for years. Bigger bras were more expensive too, because there’s more material in them, and they required changes in the manufacturing process to accommodate quirky sizes. Not all companies made them, some came and went. Often, the only way you could get a bigger bra was to go for a "granny bra" made by Playtex or Triumph - an old-fashioned support bra that came in bigger bands and cup sizes, like XXL, or XXXL.
Around this time is when your “big bust” models start appearing on the scene - eg. Samantha Fox in the UK during the 80s, and various other Page Three models with big-ish boobs, citing their bra sizes as “32C” and “34D” or, sometimes, if they looked really big, “36DD”. And then, DD became synonymous with “big boobs”. I had a 36DD bra, so I was Miss big tits. This was no different in the USA with the explosion of enhanced models - and throughout the 90s, with models like Linsey Mackenzie and all the other models I’ve become familiar with here on the BEA over the years. Around the 80s and 90s we start to see the emergence of "fantasy" bra sizes with women like Tina Small and Lolo Ferrari, then Jordan and Pamela Anderson - where there’s no real way of knowing what bra size they are, because their bras were custom-made and didn’t conform to known designs or come from the established “bra chart” determined by the plus four method. Bra letters like H, J, JJ start to emerge beyond F, FF and G (which were being used by natural models like Danni Ashe in the mid-90s, even though there were no standard sizing metrics in place yet). We also start to see numbers being thrown around like 42HHH and letters like P O and L and impossible numbers and other combinations of letters which were purely for marketing purposes and had no basis in fact. Most of these models would often wear store-bought, ill-fitting bras, or they would splash out on custom-made bras. Often, the bras they would wear in photos shoots would be crafted by costume designers, purely for the shoots.
Around the mid-90s, bra manufacturers also started modernising and opening up their ranges to bigger sizes - such as G, GG, H, HH, J, JJ. I know this, because I tried a few. We had the Wonderbra revolution, the Superbra revolution - and, in general, while average boob sizes didn’t necessarily get “bigger”, bras were being manufactured and sold by taking into account that there were “sizes” bigger than DD, and that boobs were things that could be measured in physical dimensions and classified more closely to their real-world sizes. Despite all this, there were no regulations governing bra measurements (although, in the 1970s, the European Market insisted on some basic guidelines around what and how boobs should be measured for a bra), and we had no global standard that unified companies. And why would there be? Bras are effectively an accessory made by competing entities. Of course, every company wants to be the market leader - and market leaders started to emerge.
Around this time (late 90s/early 2000s), we also start to see more articles about women wearing the wrong bra size. And, to this day, the majority of women are largely still wearing the wrong bra size - all because of an outdated measurement system that is not based on physical dimensions or variances in body shape. A recent article on the New York Times reports on a study that suggests 70-100% of women are wearing the wrong size. A staggering statistic. But hold on a sec - it isn't actually true. Why? BECAUSE THERE IS NO STANDARD FOR MEASURING AND FITTING BRAS. Women can't possibly be wearing the wrong size of bra if they don't know what their size is and no-one makes bras to set standards. However, the converse of this is actually true: if there is no standard sizing for bras, the chances are you're not wearing the *correct* bra for your bodyshape. ie. you are not FITTED correctly.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/10/style/lingerie-are-8-out-of-10-women-really-wearing-the-wrong-bra-size-a-bra-myth-busted.html
Then, along comes the “contemporary fitting method” - but not before the “war on plus four” - which was started by the Busts4Justice group around 2008 in the UK, when they railed against the British high street retailer Marks & Spencer with a grassroots campaign when the company started charging more for bras in the D+ range - all because there was more material costs in the manufacturing process, and larger bras sold in fewer numbers (they only sold in fewer numbers because women were wearing the wrong size all along and tended to purchase smaller sizes below D).
THIS is when bra sizing and fitting underwent a sea change - it literally had nothing to do with nude modelling, big-boobed models or some feeble attempt to make women sound like they had massive boobs by increasing the letters on their bra size. The Bust4Justice campaign in the UK was successful in turning around the M&S decision, and bras are now sold on an equitable basis, irrespective of their size (mostly).
Following this, new brands started to emerge for bigger-boobed women; Curvy Kate and Flirtelle were already on the market, as was Bravissimo, and the leading manufacturers started to introduce DD+ ranges; Lepel, Fantasie, Charnos, Triumph, Freya, Primadonna - and so on. Now, the market is awash with lots of different big bra manufacturers, and Polish brands are expanding (pardon the pun) globally.
And that’s when the new method of fitting and sizing started to spread (mostly in the UK, Europe and Russia - the USA is still stubbornly hanging on to the plus four method). It involves a combination of measuring, fitting, and sampling bras from different manufacturers before settling on your *fit*. And, most importantly, it’s based on physical dimensions, body shape, boob shape and form - in addition to comfort.
You start by taking some basic measurements (underbust and overbust) and working from there - only, this time, the inches correspond (approximately) to the physical dimensions of the bra; a 32” underbust would generally wear a 32 back bra (but not always); an underbust and overbust difference of 4” would roughly correspond to a D cup (but not always), hence, an underbust measurement of 32” and and overbust measurement of 40” would lead me to a 32FF bra (the difference is approximately made up by 4” of cup material - but it’s not always exact) - whereas a plus four measuring method would lead me to a 36DD bra.
I will NEVER wear a 36DD bra ever again - it's far too loose on the back band and far too tight in the cups.
However, in the US, they still use an addition/subtraction method to clue in the bra size, which is bewildering - because it can’t be done by measuring alone. You HAVE to try bras on, you HAVE to test if the back band is doing the support work, that it’s resting horizontal across the back, that the centre gore is snug against the sternum, that the boobs are encased in the cups and not spilling over, that the straps are not too tight - and numerous other things. I’ve measured friends and estimated their size with a tape, only to find they need to shift to a ‘sister’ size (one friend measured as a 34J but needs to wear a 36HH). I can go into much more detail about fitting - if you really want me to. I’d actually enjoy it.
The sizing systems are broadly the same in the USA; a US 32C is more or less the same as a UK 32C, but it starts to diverge slightly after DD - but there’s not a huge amount of variance.
So this leads us to a comparison with Tiffany, and brings us back to the point of this thread.
In the photo I’ve posted here there are four images:
1 Tiffany. I have no way of knowing what size of bra she is actually wearing in this photo - but as I said before, many websites listed her size as 32G/32FF. I’ve estimated her *actual* size (based on shape, height etc) as being 32K.
The photo in the middle is a woman wearing a 32K.
The third photo is a woman wearing a 32FF.
Now, PLEASE try to tell me that after all of this, you STILL think she's a 32FF and that modern bra sizing and fitting is "bullshit".
Well thanks for the long repluy
I did already pretty much know a lot of this
I knew A LOT about the "plus 4 system" how it worked, the in and outs the ups and downs
By the time I became "familiar" with the subject the use of elastic was beyond common and the biggest reason that women have had to replace bras especially the bigger sizes is that after 6 months or so the elastic gets stretched out and once that happens then yes you would or could find all that slack.
Now I will admit I never got out a tape measure and measured one but I always assumed that the 34 or what ever number was the "stretched number" that if you measured it un-tstretched it was probably more like 30 to 32
When it came to teh idea that the vast majority of women were wearing the wrong size I could never see how that could be, Most retail shopping in teh US since teh 50's is "self service" you go into a retail store, Macy's, Saks 5th avenue the type of stores you might find on Rodeo drive on the high end, and for teh lower end, :the average shopper" from the 60 through the 80's stores like Sears, JC Peeny, K-mart which started to replaced in the 90's by Wal-Mart and target and someplace in teh middle stores like Victoria Secret
Go in any of them and you would see racks and racks of bras, band sizes from 32, maybe 30 but 32 FOR sure up to 38 to 40 maybe bigger and cup sizes from A to at least DD so the idea that a women, women capable, more than capable of "trying stuff on" for HOURS and never buying anything would/could not pick out a bunch of different band sizes and try each on until she found one that fit, not too tight, but not too loose and then try a bunch of cup sizes in that band size where she was not spilling out the top or sides although sometimes women did go look on purpose at least with certain bras anyway or be lost in one that was obviously too big made no sense as much sense as that guy wearing the 38 inch jeans that were way to big for forever and never trying on a pair of 34's just to see how they felt/fit.
Now I suppose it is possible that all those woman I had experience with always bought new bras when or before the elastic got stretched out and maybe they all lucked out and how ever they did cups sizes that appeared to be the correct size no bands that seemed way to long, no cups "overflowing" unless "on purpose" or not nearly filled enough has never been my experience None of them ever appeared to be in "the wrong sized bra" so this idea we started hearing about how almost all women WERE wearing the wrong sized bra seemed far fetched to say the least and did not match our experience
Now if you say that the UK sizing system got it start in 08 and it started as some kind of revolt against some department store I will not argue, I thought it was early when I first started hearing about it but it was long enough ago I could be off a little
Now as far as the "something must be in the water" narrative maybe it was not quite as prevalent in the UK and I do not know your age so maybe you were not around when it was at is it's height, it is not nearly as prevalent here in the US as it was 15 or so years ago but it was a definite thing, ask anyone especially in the US who was an adult boob loving male around at the time and they will tell you they heard it and then some and confirm it got it's start in the early oo's right at the time that that was all we saw in Magazines such as Score and vids
You could not find a "slim and stacked" implanted Tiffany Towers or Lisa Lipps type if your life depended on it.
So knowing those rwo separate set of facts and looking at it from a 2 + 2 = 4 approach the idea that one followed the other and were intertwined was an easy conclusion to jump to it seemed to "make perfect sense" and you have to admit that for someone on the outside looking in it sure did seem like a hell of a big coincidence even if in fact it just happened to happen that way.
When it comes to the pics I have always said from the start, take ANY WOMAN Tiffany Towers, Christy Canyon, Sam Foxx LDM who ever and measure her using the US method and you would get a certain result and if you measure her using the UK method and you would get different result the band size would be smaller and the cup size bigger
Now is Tiffany Towers really and truly wearing "the wrong size bra" when it is probably custom made anyway ?
No probably NOT
One method of measuring says it is ---- the other says it is ----
X weighs --- pounds or it weigh ---KG
I guess the big takeaways here are:
1. Pre-2008, whatever the bra size was listed as, 34C, 34D etc. The number meant nothing. It was unrelated to a physical dimension. So suggesting women were wearing a “34” is wrong. A woman with a 28” underbust would often find herself wearing a 32B bra. Because of the system. This is the confusing part. This is where erroneous bra sizes on big boob models came from for over 20 years.
2. Tiffany is definitely wearing the wrong bra in that photo I posted, because it doesn’t *fit* her. It doesn’t matter if it’s custom-made, because the only thing we don’t know for sure is what size the bra was at the time, and we therefore can’t figure out what bra size she actually was. However, based on what she was listed as - and doing a basic math conversion from the plus four system, along with a visual assessment and comparison, it’s easy enough to see what approximate size/fit she would be now. What I can say with pretty much 100% certainty, is she would not be able to wear a 32FF bra today. Why do I know this? Because I’m a 32FF myself, and I’m no Tiffany Towers. A 32FF bra wouldn’t even go round her overbust.
3. As for when this all started, here’s a news report featuring Becky Williams of B4J in 2009. She states that she started the campaign in 2007, and it eventually had an effect in 2008. However, the sea change in sizing methods was gradual, it took about 2-3 years to kick in. It’s still ongoing:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wTy0S7eIoFE
4. I was a teenager in the 80s. I remember all of this well. While I wasn’t aware of porn, I knew about people like Samantha Fox, and it influenced me as much as anything else. I became aware of big boobs models mostly via this forum (by accidentally discovering that my husband was a member).
5. Let’s get back to the boobs and the bras. It’s what we’re here for. Certainly, it’s what I’m here for.
Post by: BacE on December 20, 2020, 03:29:01 AM
Post by: solvegas on December 22, 2020, 10:02:05 PM
Post by: phonehome1 on December 24, 2020, 05:16:42 AM
From left to right, Angelique, dunno, Sareena Lee, LDM, Tiffany and Tawny Peaks. Taken in the very early 90's, likely in a Bermuda photoshoot. :)
I think that was from one of the Score sponsored "boob cruises"
That woman looks familiar but can't recall the name right now, have to think about that.
I am Sure that Elliot James would know on both
I have the mags from back them in boxes in the attic but it would take while to check it out
Post by: ayrton on December 24, 2020, 08:44:36 AM
Post by: Margaret on December 24, 2020, 09:44:06 AM
I often wondered if any of the customers ever got laid by any of the ladies on Boob Cruises.
What’s the Boob Cruises?
Post by: solvegas on December 24, 2020, 10:09:25 AM
I often wondered if any of the customers ever got laid by any of the ladies on Boob Cruises.
What’s the Boob Cruises?
Back in the early to mid 90's, a new magazine by the name of Score, which specialized on large breasts whether natural or surgically enhanced, had chartered a Caribbean cruise boat and invited its subscribers to pay for their ticket to partake in the festivities involving many of the exotic dancer circuits such as Busty Dusty, Angelique, Tawny Peaks, Linsey Dawn Mackenzie, Sareena Lee, Maxi Mounds, Mini Mounds ( who had big breasts but compared to her dancing partner Maxi Mounds did not. They toured together. ), Minka and more. The fans got to not only meet the girls, photograph them, pose with them, dine with them and to frolic with them. The VHS videos of the festivities are classic. Unfortunately for me, I was serving in Uncle Sam's Navy so I could not schedule to do it. Besides, Sailors don't have so much money. So if you go to the Score site, you can download the scene. ;D They did this for several years by the way. :)
Post by: Maik on December 24, 2020, 10:16:29 AM
Post by: phonehome1 on December 24, 2020, 10:29:30 AM
I often wondered if any of the customers ever got laid by any of the ladies on Boob Cruises.
THe buzz you heard after was NO, but it also was that some of the cabin boys and maybe "cabin girls" too got lucky
When they happened it was not yet the time frame where where more than a few such models especially in Vegas or in conjunction with "touring" as a "feature" started "escorting" as not quite "the norm" but by no means "rare"
500 or 1000 bucks for an hour
Your Mileage May Vary
Post by: phonehome1 on December 24, 2020, 07:30:18 PM
I often wondered if any of the customers ever got laid by any of the ladies on Boob Cruises.
What’s the Boob Cruises?
Back in the early to mid 90's, a new magazine by the name of Score, which specialized on large breasts whether natural or surgically enhanced, had chartered a Caribbean cruise boat and invited its subscribers to pay for their ticket to partake in the festivities involving many of the exotic dancer circuits such as Busty Dusty, Angelique, Tawny Peaks, Linsey Dawn Mackenzie, Sareena Lee, Maxi Mounds, Mini Mounds ( who had big breasts but compared to her dancing partner Maxi Mounds did not. They toured together. ), Minka and more. The fans got to not only meet the girls, photograph them, pose with them, dine with them and to frolic with them. The VHS videos of the festivities are classic. Unfortunately for me, I was serving in Uncle Sam's Navy so I could not schedule to do it. Besides, Sailors don't have so much money. So if you go to the Score site, you can download the scene. ;D They did this for several years by the way. :)
Mini Mounds was the name I was trying to think of
Can't be sure, but I am pretty sure I saw her as a feature once way back when and between that and pics the look is similar and the boobs about the same size
I was an ET Chief in the 90's so I could never afford to go either
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 24, 2020, 07:34:08 PM
The caption said she was at the Foundation Room but didn't specify which one. The Foundation Rooms are associated with The House of Blues restaurants and concert venues and we have one here in Vegas but looking at the background it is not here in Vegas 'cause it ain't gaudy enough. ;D As you can tell, she is a little thicker and nowhere as busty at her prime. It's been two weeks since any update so I'll do it.
She had a bit of a breast reduction but she's still got it...
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 24, 2020, 07:36:11 PM
I often wondered if any of the customers ever got laid by any of the ladies on Boob Cruises.
I posted an image in the Linsey Dawn McKenzie thread that had a caption where the captioner claimed that that happened with LDM. Have not been able to positively corroborate that account.
Post by: solvegas on December 24, 2020, 08:55:32 PM
I often wondered if any of the customers ever got laid by any of the ladies on Boob Cruises.
I posted an image in the Linsey Dawn McKenzie thread that had a caption where the captioner claimed that that happened with LDM. Have not been able to positively corroborate that account.
There is a Score video of Minka having sex with one of Score's editors and/or contributor and having myself dealt with Minka, if the moolah is right, she has very flexible morals and she will rock your world so I wouldn't doubt that some of the girls did participate in hide the weenie exercises. ;D
Post by: solvegas on December 24, 2020, 09:09:35 PM
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 25, 2020, 10:11:31 AM
I posted an image in the Linsey Dawn McKenzie thread that had a caption where the captioner claimed that that happened with LDM. Have not been able to positively corroborate that account.
There is a Score video of Minka having sex with one of Score's editors and/or contributor and having myself dealt with Minka, if the moolah is right, she has very flexible morals and she will rock your world so I wouldn't doubt that some of the girls did participate in hide the weenie exercises. ;D
Well now I feel quite cheated since I never was able to go on the SCORE Boob Cruises :D
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 25, 2020, 10:28:09 AM
Tiffany was a fellatio artiste extraordinaire and she could take on all of the biggest porn male stars to the root without a sweat. :o Just an amazing performer. :) Click it. :)
Damn
Post by: 3deroticer on December 25, 2020, 01:01:24 PM
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Post by: solvegas on December 27, 2020, 09:54:56 PM
Post by: 3deroticer on January 05, 2021, 10:48:23 PM
Well I just figure out how to apply photoshop filter to video and then rework some elements into the final frame. It was a fun experiment.
Post by: solvegas on February 17, 2021, 09:41:54 PM
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Post by: Bramlet on July 13, 2021, 05:21:25 AM
Bumping this thread with a little gif. :)
wow!
Post by: 3deroticer on July 13, 2021, 03:52:31 PM
Bumping this thread with a little gif. :)https://imgur.com/SKDw9Lk
I did a morph on that clip while back.
Post by: solvegas on July 13, 2021, 09:31:40 PM
Bumping this thread with a little gif. :)https://imgur.com/SKDw9Lk
I did a morph on that clip while back.
That's a pretty nifty job you did. You should have posted it here also. :)
Post by: 3deroticer on July 14, 2021, 04:15:09 PM
Post by: solvegas on July 14, 2021, 09:37:52 PM
I prefer boobs clapping over hand clapping in show of appreciation! Don't you?
I prefer if those boobs are clapping my face, don't you ? ;) ;D
Post by: solvegas on July 14, 2021, 10:39:16 PM
Post by: Bramlet on July 16, 2021, 06:56:49 PM
Tiffany seemingly can't believe her good luck. ;) ;D
love it
Post by: solvegas on July 16, 2021, 09:13:16 PM
Tiffany seemingly can't believe her good luck. ;) ;D
love it
That's six pages back. :o ;) ;D
Post by: solvegas on July 16, 2021, 09:45:39 PM
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Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on December 02, 2021, 08:23:24 AM
A small gif to remind everyone what an energetic performer she was. ;) ;D Click it. :)
This is an incredibly hot gif. She was amazing.
Post by: salem on December 13, 2021, 07:11:48 PM
Post by: solvegas on December 13, 2021, 08:13:30 PM
Post by: solvegas on December 22, 2021, 10:02:17 PM
Post by: TheZookie007 on December 23, 2021, 01:48:20 AM
Hmmm.... that body
OMG OMG OMG
Post by: solvegas on January 01, 2022, 09:01:53 PM
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Post by: Bramlet on February 17, 2022, 02:40:05 AM
Click it. :)
Best of all time!
Post by: phonehome1 on February 17, 2022, 09:54:44 AM
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Post by: Bramlet on April 15, 2022, 02:27:04 PM
She was great when doing lesbian scenes. :) Click it. :)
Immediate BONER!
Post by: solvegas on April 18, 2022, 09:16:14 PM
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Post by: Bramlet on June 04, 2022, 11:45:30 AM
https://deu.xhamster.com/videos/tiffany-towers-shower-9912851
Plus: she's on TikTok!
https://www.tiktok.com/@therealtiffanytowers
Post by: solvegas on June 04, 2022, 09:01:12 PM
Post by: phonehome1 on June 05, 2022, 04:35:07 AM
Maybe the later DD version was not quite trophy with a capitol T anymore but still bigger than most women that most of "average guys" could hope to be waking up next to every morning.
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Post by: Scarface on July 18, 2022, 03:19:38 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/izwuwytnqxb91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=aac10490f9ceeb21e808195cad27f6e4e3dbca2a)
Post by: solvegas on July 20, 2022, 10:15:59 PM
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Post by: ExtremistComics on August 02, 2022, 10:41:11 PM
Many implanted big boob stars cannot lick their nipples because their breasts are not flexible enough to allow them to do so but Tiffany could do so. :) Click it. :)The firmness of implants has always made me question how fun it would actually be to titfuck an enhanced lady of that size range, but y'know, I'd be willing to find out, for the sake of advancing science of course.
Post by: Bramlet on August 03, 2022, 06:16:20 PM
DAMN!
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Post by: Margaret on December 15, 2022, 08:52:09 AM
Can't believe two months have gone by since this thread has been updated. :P
I now have so many girl crushes on this forum that I’ve lost count. I just adore this lady. What age is she now? Is she retired?
Post by: solvegas on December 15, 2022, 09:01:40 AM
Can't believe two months have gone by since this thread has been updated. :P
I now have so many girl crushes on this forum that I’ve lost count. I just adore this lady. What age is she now? Is she retired?
She was born on December 19, 1971, in Toronto, Canada and first made her debut in the big boob world in Gent magazine in 1990. She is 5'2" tall. She was a superstar in the 90's and she retired in the 2000's. Her implants were large but the way they were, some people thought she was a natural. Remains one of my favorites to this day. :)
Post by: Scarface on December 22, 2022, 10:24:59 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e7/e3/15/e7e3159b87746ec5720284cd3c763e16--towers-birthdays.jpg)
Post by: Maik on December 22, 2022, 10:30:14 AM
a candid from a few years ago :)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e7/e3/15/e7e3159b87746ec5720284cd3c763e16--towers-birthdays.jpg)
Too bad the boobs are gone,
but she looks healthy and really happy :D
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Post by: Scarface on February 17, 2023, 06:04:46 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/9b/97/3b9b9734aa4f53c2aa035a27f7ebadb3.jpg)
Post by: lucaxyz2 on February 18, 2023, 03:11:25 AM
Candid shot, probably after retiring from dancing.thanks. Would be nice to know if it is recent. Still amazing though. And her boobs even if super small look very good on her. Happy to see she's doing good 👍
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/9b/97/3b9b9734aa4f53c2aa035a27f7ebadb3.jpg)
Post by: solvegas on February 18, 2023, 06:21:24 AM
Post by: Scarface on February 19, 2023, 06:43:22 AM
(https://thumb-p2.xhcdn.com/a/6FHisU4WePir0mCiChhceA/000/224/252/852_160.gif)
Post by: Scarface on February 20, 2023, 08:38:45 AM
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.d77e400c664bae9133eb3b9870ed6049?rik=9Q5e%2fgBTtVUkuQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fi534.photobucket.com%2falbums%2fee350%2ftheunknownguy36%2fPretty+ladies%2fTiffany+Towers%2fl_05d62ba02f66522bd4838d7bd5d51f5f.jpg&ehk=ALXVGqJ36DPNQkLVCqjCcvqG%2bAexEXDzgK0btmSQtDg%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
Post by: Scarface on February 27, 2023, 05:26:56 PM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/edbe47566782641973a9d21826f31d8c/tumblr_nmmsr9qH4a1r2i1eqo1_400.png)
Post by: Scarface on February 28, 2023, 02:11:22 PM
Anyway, that's Tiffany Towers on the left at the start of the clip and in the back right at the end. The 1994 date is wrong because she doesn't have implants. I wish they uploaded a longer version because she did actually have some lines and you can see her better. ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQwI6xDz6cg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQwI6xDz6cg)
Post by: Scarface on March 01, 2023, 05:05:57 PM
(https://forum.xnxx.com/attachments/img_20170802_124116-jpg.982388/)
Post by: Scarface on March 20, 2023, 01:21:10 PM
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.XH4JAMqwN6CByxaaPXImvgHaFR?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)
Post by: solvegas on May 08, 2023, 09:55:22 PM
Post by: Scarface on May 20, 2023, 06:10:44 AM
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2294901977_6590335fe8.jpg)
(https://**29**/tiffany-towers/pictures/xxlarge/tiffany-towers_2722866.jpg)
Post by: Scarface on June 07, 2023, 05:52:03 PM
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2294901345_7745a6e3f1.jpg)
Post by: solvegas on June 07, 2023, 10:21:38 PM
:)
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2294901345_7745a6e3f1.jpg)
How recent is this photo? ??? Assuming it is recent, she still is wonderful looking even in her fifties. :)
Post by: solvegas on June 16, 2023, 06:35:53 AM
Post by: solvegas on June 28, 2023, 07:24:23 AM
Post by: solvegas on July 18, 2023, 06:18:04 AM
Post by: solvegas on August 10, 2023, 07:09:34 AM
Post by: solvegas on August 25, 2023, 06:28:35 AM
Post by: salem on September 13, 2023, 03:36:15 AM
Post by: solvegas on September 13, 2023, 06:19:26 AM
Post by: Scarface on September 23, 2023, 10:13:18 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3037/2922483497_aa541530f1_z.jpg)
Post by: solvegas on September 23, 2023, 10:50:55 PM
:)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3037/2922483497_aa541530f1_z.jpg)
Tiffany is in her 50's now. How recent is this photo? ???
Post by: solvegas on October 10, 2023, 05:52:14 AM
Post by: solvegas on October 26, 2023, 07:26:16 AM
Post by: solvegas on November 16, 2023, 06:56:08 AM
Post by: Bramlet on November 16, 2023, 04:19:49 PM
Click it. :)
I once created that gif... ;)
Post by: solvegas on November 16, 2023, 09:08:11 PM
Click it. :)
I once created that gif... ;)
Well done. I got it from Bing on a Tiffany Towers pornstar gifs site, but it didn't have an author/creator name. :)
Post by: butcheepow on November 17, 2023, 03:17:22 AM
:)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3037/2922483497_aa541530f1_z.jpg)
Tiffany is in her 50's now. How recent is this photo? ???
This was shot on September 28th, 2008. Tiffany was 36 at that time.
She has an OF account with personal images (some nude, mostly not though). The image I'm posting is not from that account (found it on scrolllllller), but by her looks it could be dated around 2020.
Post by: solvegas on November 17, 2023, 04:40:08 AM
:)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3037/2922483497_aa541530f1_z.jpg)
Tiffany is in her 50's now. How recent is this photo? ???
This was shot on September 28th, 2008. Tiffany was 36 at that time.
She has an OF account with personal images (some nude, mostly not though). The image I'm posting is not from that account (found it on scrolllllller), but by her looks it could be dated around 2020.
Thanks for the date of the photo. I know it was taken at Toronto because you can see the CN Tower in the background. :)
Post by: Scarface on November 26, 2023, 07:34:39 PM
(https://thumb-p8.xhcdn.com/a/WcksIZPgonP_-BhTEhE76Q/000/218/427/188_1000.jpg)
Post by: solvegas on November 26, 2023, 10:13:53 PM
Post by: Margaret on November 27, 2023, 01:40:57 PM
^ Back in the day the bust measurements were ridiculously exaggerated and incorrect. :P
Yep.
Post by: Kopy Kat on November 27, 2023, 05:45:30 PM
Post by: Scarface on November 28, 2023, 02:30:45 PM
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.de322908e3bd9547f906bbe2d73fab63?rik=vC0w335JTrhHsA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fi534.photobucket.com%2falbums%2fee350%2ftheunknownguy36%2fPretty+ladies%2fTiffany+Towers%2fl_58345cd6d77a5fb378ac6b54b2a77d08.jpg&ehk=aqKQQEhuxVB6uh22znAt9KS9TZCbF4AFdkTPPmGQ%2fL4%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
Post by: solvegas on November 28, 2023, 09:05:32 PM
:)
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.de322908e3bd9547f906bbe2d73fab63?rik=vC0w335JTrhHsA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fi534.photobucket.com%2falbums%2fee350%2ftheunknownguy36%2fPretty+ladies%2fTiffany+Towers%2fl_58345cd6d77a5fb378ac6b54b2a77d08.jpg&ehk=aqKQQEhuxVB6uh22znAt9KS9TZCbF4AFdkTPPmGQ%2fL4%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
How recent is this photo? ???
Post by: Scarface on November 29, 2023, 05:51:01 AM
15 years or more. Time flies.
Post by: solvegas on November 29, 2023, 06:04:50 AM
Post by: salem on January 21, 2024, 08:09:22 PM
Post by: solvegas on February 22, 2024, 06:35:47 AM
Post by: Margaret on February 22, 2024, 07:02:40 AM
Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
Post by: solvegas on February 22, 2024, 07:06:45 AM
Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
It was her amazing beauty and willingness to cater to us perv .... porn connoisseurs that made her such a big star of the era. ;D
Post by: Margaret on February 22, 2024, 07:20:36 AM
Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
It was her amazing beauty and willingness to cater to us perv .... porn connoisseurs that made her such a big star of the era. ;D
I totally get it. She has everything - she has every single ounce of sexual appeal, and I’m assuming she added to it with implants. I certainly don’t blame her for taking advantage of all of it and doing whatever she wants to do with her own body. I do find it jarring though. It’s the same with any other woman I see on here - I get the lingerie/naked pics - it’s when it gets to them having sex etc that it catches me off-guard.
Post by: phonehome1 on February 22, 2024, 07:45:51 AM
Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
It was her amazing beauty and willingness to cater to us perv .... porn connoisseurs that made her such a big star of the era. ;D
In addition, she was a blonde which for any teenage boy growing up in the 70's meant a lot , she was really big, as big as any in the late 80's and early 90's, before 3000 CC implants became common and way before string
I have always said two things
She had the most natural looking implants of any 90's era model I ever saw. She had implants and other than the standard "real big" and "real expensive" she never tried to claim she did not because back then no one would have beloved her, the default was to look at a woman like her and assume she had implants
Had she came along in the early 00's in the height "all natural wave" when the script had totally flipped and all those models who were just as big as TT and many times were bigger and by a lot, had the same shape, the same "hang" the same "squishiness" "pancaked" out and "sloshed around" the way TT's did in any of her vids if she "claimed" to be "all natural" everyone was practically forced to press the "I believe button" and anyone who did not press it like Pavlov's dog but suggested that maybe just maybe the woman in question had the help of really good PS, like the one who did TT's implants you were practically banned from this and other forums that had she come along then and claimed to be all natural most would have knee jerk believed her, , like they did Julia Miles, who if not for one long lost but not lost enough German TV interview would still be getting away with her all natural claims
Post by: Margaret on February 22, 2024, 08:14:27 AM
Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
It was her amazing beauty and willingness to cater to us perv .... porn connoisseurs that made her such a big star of the era. ;D
In addition, she was a blonde which for any teenage boy growing up in the 70's meant a lot , she was really big, as big as any in the late 80's and early 90's, before 3000 CC implants became common and way before string
I have always said two things
She had the most natural looking implants of any 90's era model I ever saw. She had implants and other than the standard "real big" and "real expensive" she never tried to claim she did not because back then no one would have beloved her, the default was to look at a woman like her and assume she had implants
Had she came along in the early 00's in the height "all natural wave" when the script had totally flipped and all those models who were just as big as TT and many times were bigger and by a lot, had the same shape, the same "hang" the same "squishiness" "pancaked" out and "sloshed around" the way TT's did in any of her vids if she "claimed" to be "all natural" everyone was practically forced to press the "I believe button" and anyone who did not press it like Pavlov's dog but suggested that maybe just maybe the woman in question had the help of really good PS, like the one who did TT's implants you were practically banned from this and other forums that had she come along then and claimed to be all natural most would have knee jerk believed her, , like they did Julia Miles, who if not for one long lost but not lost enough German TV interview would still be getting away with her all natural claims
She’s an amazing lady for sure. I would love to have met her (and helped her find a bra that fits).
Post by: ayrton on February 22, 2024, 09:04:25 AM
Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
It was her amazing beauty and willingness to cater to us perv .... porn connoisseurs that made her such a big star of the era. ;D
I agree with Sol. I'm glad she was willing to entertain us guys that love porn. I'm sure she enjoyed those big cocks too!
Post by: Scarface on February 23, 2024, 06:12:03 AM
It's actually a business decision.Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
Back then, they could travel the country as a headline feature dancer at the clubs. To become a top feature, doing hardcore was required as just magazines wouldn't get them the same top dollar that a porn star would draw. The real money was in the dancing though, the movies were a vehicle to get them there.
Plus Tiffany was escorting which was also lucrative and will earn more money if they've done hard core, so the porno movies were like an infomercial to attract potential clients that will pay top dollar.
Post by: solvegas on February 23, 2024, 06:21:09 AM
It's actually a business decision.Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
Back then, they could travel the country as a headline feature dancer at the clubs. To become a top feature, doing hardcore was required as just magazines wouldn't get them the same top dollar that a porn star would draw. The real money was in the dancing though, the movies were a vehicle to get them there.
Plus Tiffany was escorting which was also lucrative and will earn more money if they've done hard core, so the porno movies were like an infomercial to attract potential clients that will pay top dollar.
Another thing about her at the time, as a Canadian, she was able to move freely between Canada and the USA without a passport in those days, but after September 11, 2001 attacks, travel between both countries became much more difficult and escorting became more difficult and of course, the Internet was already a big thing and the decline of the feature dancers at Gentlemen's clubs became a different thing and declined. :(
Post by: phonehome1 on February 23, 2024, 07:27:01 AM
It's actually a business decision.Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
Back then, they could travel the country as a headline feature dancer at the clubs. To become a top feature, doing hardcore was required as just magazines wouldn't get them the same top dollar that a porn star would draw. The real money was in the dancing though, the movies were a vehicle to get them there.
Plus Tiffany was escorting which was also lucrative and will earn more money if they've done hard core, so the porno movies were like an infomercial to attract potential clients that will pay top dollar.
That was not really true
For both escorting and being a feature there really were 2 tracks
There were features that were porn stars, hardcore porn stars and that was really the only thing any different from at least some of the "house girls" I saw some that when it came to tits were not really any bigger and a few times actually smaller, especially in places like OG in Vegas then some of the bigger sized house girls but ---- was "porn star " and that got her that feature gig
The other was breast size and being in magazine layouts in mags like SCORE or Hustlers Busty Beauties and a few others Gent etc etc was enough to get you "managed" with some of the companies that proved booking to clubs for feature dancers
There were features some of which also escorted that were cup sizes bigger than even the biggest house girl in most clubs and that was enough to get that feature gig that never did much if anything in the way of vids, maybe something with toys, or possibly girl/girl but that was it Colt 45, Casey James Sarema Lee Chelsea Charms are a few I can think of.
It was not until the 00's that it became standard for mags such as SCORE to just shoot a vid and capture stills from that to run in a magazine layout then just shoot individual; shots
Post by: phonehome1 on February 23, 2024, 07:31:37 AM
It's actually a business decision.Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
Back then, they could travel the country as a headline feature dancer at the clubs. To become a top feature, doing hardcore was required as just magazines wouldn't get them the same top dollar that a porn star would draw. The real money was in the dancing though, the movies were a vehicle to get them there.
Plus Tiffany was escorting which was also lucrative and will earn more money if they've done hard core, so the porno movies were like an infomercial to attract potential clients that will pay top dollar.
Another thing about her at the time, as a Canadian, she was able to move freely between Canada and the USA without a passport in those days, but after September 11, 2001 attacks, travel between both countries became much more difficult and escorting became more difficult and of course, the Internet was already a big thing and the decline of the feature dancers at Gentlemen's clubs became a different thing and declined. :(
Another thing in her particular case was that by 01 she was pushing 40 and also because of what ever reason it came about she was "just a DD"
Post by: Scarface on February 23, 2024, 08:15:25 AM
It's actually a business decision.Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
Back then, they could travel the country as a headline feature dancer at the clubs. To become a top feature, doing hardcore was required as just magazines wouldn't get them the same top dollar that a porn star would draw. The real money was in the dancing though, the movies were a vehicle to get them there.
Plus Tiffany was escorting which was also lucrative and will earn more money if they've done hard core, so the porno movies were like an infomercial to attract potential clients that will pay top dollar.
Another thing about her at the time, as a Canadian, she was able to move freely between Canada and the USA without a passport in those days, but after September 11, 2001 attacks, travel between both countries became much more difficult and escorting became more difficult and of course, the Internet was already a big thing and the decline of the feature dancers at Gentlemen's clubs became a different thing and declined. :(
Another thing in her particular case was that by 01 she was pushing 40 and also because of what ever reason it came about she was "just a DD"
What are you talking about by saying pushing 40 in 01? She was 30 years old in 01 if you were implying her age was almost 40.
Post by: Scarface on February 23, 2024, 08:16:54 AM
It's actually a business decision.Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
Back then, they could travel the country as a headline feature dancer at the clubs. To become a top feature, doing hardcore was required as just magazines wouldn't get them the same top dollar that a porn star would draw. The real money was in the dancing though, the movies were a vehicle to get them there.
Plus Tiffany was escorting which was also lucrative and will earn more money if they've done hard core, so the porno movies were like an infomercial to attract potential clients that will pay top dollar.
That was not really true
For both escorting and being a feature there really were 2 tracks
There were features that were porn stars, hardcore porn stars and that was really the only thing any different from at least some of the "house girls" I saw some that when it came to tits were not really any bigger and a few times actually smaller, especially in places like OG in Vegas then some of the bigger sized house girls but ---- was "porn star " and that got her that feature gig
The other was breast size and being in magazine layouts in mags like SCORE or Hustlers Busty Beauties and a few others Gent etc etc was enough to get you "managed" with some of the companies that proved booking to clubs for feature dancers
There were features some of which also escorted that were cup sizes bigger than even the biggest house girl in most clubs and that was enough to get that feature gig that never did much if anything in the way of vids, maybe something with toys, or possibly girl/girl but that was it Colt 45, Casey James Sarema Lee Chelsea Charms are a few I can think of.
It was not until the 00's that it became standard for mags such as SCORE to just shoot a vid and capture stills from that to run in a magazine layout then just shoot individual; shots
Well, I'm only going by what I was told first hand.
Post by: solvegas on February 23, 2024, 08:25:52 AM
Post by: ayrton on February 23, 2024, 09:24:03 AM
Post by: phonehome1 on February 23, 2024, 09:39:00 AM
It's actually a business decision.Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
Back then, they could travel the country as a headline feature dancer at the clubs. To become a top feature, doing hardcore was required as just magazines wouldn't get them the same top dollar that a porn star would draw. The real money was in the dancing though, the movies were a vehicle to get them there.
Plus Tiffany was escorting which was also lucrative and will earn more money if they've done hard core, so the porno movies were like an infomercial to attract potential clients that will pay top dollar.
That was not really true
For both escorting and being a feature there really were 2 tracks
There were features that were porn stars, hardcore porn stars and that was really the only thing any different from at least some of the "house girls" I saw some that when it came to tits were not really any bigger and a few times actually smaller, especially in places like OG in Vegas then some of the bigger sized house girls but ---- was "porn star " and that got her that feature gig
The other was breast size and being in magazine layouts in mags like SCORE or Hustlers Busty Beauties and a few others Gent etc etc was enough to get you "managed" with some of the companies that proved booking to clubs for feature dancers
There were features some of which also escorted that were cup sizes bigger than even the biggest house girl in most clubs and that was enough to get that feature gig that never did much if anything in the way of vids, maybe something with toys, or possibly girl/girl but that was it Colt 45, Casey James Sarema Lee Chelsea Charms are a few I can think of.
It was not until the 00's that it became standard for mags such as SCORE to just shoot a vid and capture stills from that to run in a magazine layout then just shoot individual; shots
Well, I'm only going by what I was told first hand.
Well I am going by what I observed first hand
The features I saw in the 90's in clubs in my area in an around Mobile AL , when they got features , the "porn stars were often no bigger boobwise than some of the house girls, DD's sometimes smaller and for them, yes being a XXX porn star was what got them the feature gig but the other features such as the ones I listed, a few of whom I have met Colt 45 and Casey James, total sweethearts BTW never did porn and any vids they did were the product of mags by the later 90's shifting to just shouting vids and taking screen shots to make a magazine layout rather than an old timey "photo shoot" and those vids were at best using toys or a few were at best girl girl and often none of either
Post by: phonehome1 on February 23, 2024, 09:50:15 AM
It's actually a business decision.Tiffany getting a protein supplement. ;D I remember I first saw her in a Gent magazine photoshoot way back in 1989 when she was 19 and her breasts were not that big but later on she got big implants, for the time, and she was a porn superstar of the 1990's. The good ol' days. :)
I can never go past this amazing woman’s thread without stopping to see what’s new - she is simply beautiful.
But, I always find myself startled when I see her (or other women on here) performing hardcore porn. I think I said before, I’m not anti-porn or anything like that, I’m just not into it - and I rarely, if ever, view it - but I can’t help feel taken aback when I see a face (and amazing body!) that I’ve grown familiar with in such a compromising situation (compromising isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I mean - literally - that man is ejaculating into her mouth.
I still find it difficult to understand how a woman finds herself in a situation where her sexual activity becomes entertainment.
There’s no judgement from me about it - but I struggle to get my head around it.
Anyway - she’s amazing. I really love her. I understand she retired long ago - I hope she’s living her best life.
Back then, they could travel the country as a headline feature dancer at the clubs. To become a top feature, doing hardcore was required as just magazines wouldn't get them the same top dollar that a porn star would draw. The real money was in the dancing though, the movies were a vehicle to get them there.
Plus Tiffany was escorting which was also lucrative and will earn more money if they've done hard core, so the porno movies were like an infomercial to attract potential clients that will pay top dollar.
Another thing about her at the time, as a Canadian, she was able to move freely between Canada and the USA without a passport in those days, but after September 11, 2001 attacks, travel between both countries became much more difficult and escorting became more difficult and of course, the Internet was already a big thing and the decline of the feature dancers at Gentlemen's clubs became a different thing and declined. :(
Another thing in her particular case was that by 01 she was pushing 40 and also because of what ever reason it came about she was "just a DD"
What are you talking about by saying pushing 40 in 01? She was 30 years old in 01 if you were implying her age was almost 40.
OK I guess mid 30's would have been more accurate but in the end we are quibbling over a few years
I thought the first time I saw her in a magazine was like 88 - 89 time frame so if you assume that from photo shoot to making it to a news stand is 6 months to at least year then thinking she was 20 in 89 has her 32 - 33 late in 01 and in those days plenty of feature dancers "retired" by that age if not younger
The bigger thing some puns intended was that by then she had the much smaller implants and that may have had something or maybe a lot to do with it as well.
Post by: solvegas on March 19, 2024, 07:08:52 AM
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Post by: solvegas on June 27, 2024, 06:42:18 AM
An old one but l think not posted here yet
That's a nice one Captain. :)
Post by: solvegas on June 27, 2024, 06:43:29 AM
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Post by: solvegas on July 03, 2024, 11:27:07 PM
:)
One of the prettiest big bust models/porn stars ever. :)
Post by: phonehome1 on July 04, 2024, 01:47:50 AM
Back in the early 90's, the main big breasts magazines were Gent, Home of the D-Cups, Fling, Cavalier but then a new magazine appeared named SCORE and it had better quality photography and one model that helped popularize it was Tiffany Towers. She had first appeared in Gent magazine back in 1989 when she was 18 years old, barely legal, but in SCORE she had bigger implants and this photo was from a photoshoot in Bermuda. :)
I am not sure where I saw her first but it was before SCORE for sure. Hustler's Busty Beauties, which had Mellissa Mounds as the first covergirl and she for the time looked absolutely massive appeared as I recall in 87 maybe early 88 so maybe Tiffany appeared in that in 89 but who knows but I for sure saw her someplace other than SCORE.
Post by: solvegas on July 04, 2024, 06:22:02 AM
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Post by: solvegas on August 28, 2024, 10:50:33 PM
So awesome! ;D
Because of her beauty, she'll remain a big bust star for another 50 years or so. :)
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Post by: Scarface on October 22, 2024, 07:13:41 AM
(https://static-ca-cdn.eporner.com/gallery/4e/pv/TTFIPsjpv4e/14438164-tiffany-towers-tommy-knockers-club-720-27.gif)
Post by: solvegas on October 22, 2024, 07:38:43 AM
:)
(https://static-ca-cdn.eporner.com/gallery/4e/pv/TTFIPsjpv4e/14438164-tiffany-towers-tommy-knockers-club-720-27.gif)
Very nice gif Scarface. :)
Post by: solvegas on November 07, 2024, 06:32:06 AM
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Post by: solvegas on December 26, 2024, 09:55:21 PM
She really knew how to treat a cock. She seemed to love them.
Tiffany was overall very talented on the porn business. :)
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Post by: Maik on May 19, 2025, 11:53:39 AM
I've been looking at porn for 50+ years and Tiffany remains one of my favorites pornstars. :)
I always like it when they need both hands to hold them and wouldn't mind to give some extra support with my hands ;D.
Post by: solvegas on May 23, 2025, 06:33:03 AM
Post by: 3deroticer on June 05, 2025, 12:21:35 PM
Post by: solvegas on June 05, 2025, 09:31:55 PM
clean up the guy, enlarge her breast copy her face
Interesting video. I like the much bigger breasts. :)
Post by: 3deroticer on June 05, 2025, 10:29:17 PM
I cant fathom her every day life! Putting on clothes even?
Post by: solvegas on June 05, 2025, 10:42:43 PM
if you say go bigger one more time, I'm going to explode! So don't think it!
I cant fathom her every day life! Putting on clothes even?
Well, thanks for doing it. :)
Post by: 3deroticer on June 05, 2025, 11:42:59 PM
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Post by: 3deroticer on July 22, 2025, 12:17:17 PM
Post by: solvegas on July 22, 2025, 09:24:38 PM
I took the above picture and made a Ai animation from it
You certainly have done something great. :)
Post by: 3deroticer on July 23, 2025, 12:35:00 AM
Post by: solvegas on July 23, 2025, 07:39:05 AM
I didn't do anything fancy, just a basic photograph from her layout and animate it, she's kind of a perfection to me.
You did good anyways. :)
Post by: lucaxyz2 on July 23, 2025, 09:19:20 AM
No 3deroticer this is not only good this is amazing! So what do you use to animate NSFW files?I didn't do anything fancy, just a basic photograph from her layout and animate it, she's kind of a perfection to me.
You did good anyways. :)
Post by: solvegas on July 23, 2025, 09:32:53 AM
No 3deroticer this is not only good this is amazing! So what do you use to animate NSFW files?I didn't do anything fancy, just a basic photograph from her layout and animate it, she's kind of a perfection to me.
You did good anyways. :)
From my knowledge/perspective, it is magic. ??? ;) ;D
Post by: 3deroticer on July 24, 2025, 12:06:49 PM
You did good anyways. :)No 3deroticer this is not only good this is amazing! So what do you use to animate NSFW files?
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I use "Leonardo.Ai" website, and pay the $60 per/month, the middle package, and I cancel my adobe after effect, for which this does what I want at a much faster rate, and then I also use "Artspace.Ai" to swap faces and expand and fill background so the model has room to move around in.
The Leonardo middle package allows me to use the image generator unlimited, but also the video generator unlimited, but when I run out of points it switch to slow mode which isn't that slow to be annoyed by.
Post by: solvegas on July 24, 2025, 09:39:50 PM
You did good anyways. :)No 3deroticer this is not only good this is amazing! So what do you use to animate NSFW files?
I use "Leonardo.Ai" website, and pay the $60 per/month, the middle package, and I cancel my adobe after effect, for which this does what I want at a much faster rate, and then I also use "Artspace.Ai" to swap faces and expand and fill background so the model has room to move around in.
The Leonardo middle package allows me to use the image generator unlimited, but also the video generator unlimited, but when I run out of points it switch to slow mode which isn't that slow to be annoyed by.
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I'm glad that you animated her and you didn't modify her so as she would become unrecognizable. :)
Post by: salem on August 14, 2025, 08:50:56 AM
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Post by: Scarface on September 12, 2025, 06:56:07 PM
(https://images.scrolller.com/femto/recent-tiffany-towers-pic-2nphn8kigw.jpg)
Post by: Guy on September 13, 2025, 05:35:16 AM
Post by: solvegas on September 13, 2025, 06:53:50 AM
Does she still have her boobs? :)
As far as I know, no. ???
Post by: NavSquid on September 13, 2025, 06:07:25 PM
Post by: solvegas on September 14, 2025, 12:10:36 AM
She's so lovely! ;D
It was her beauty and her skill at fellagio that made her an adult superstar. :)
Post by: ayrton on September 14, 2025, 05:17:01 PM
Post by: solvegas on September 14, 2025, 10:59:53 PM
I agree. She was a great cock sucker. Right up with Linda Lovelace.
She was better than Linda Lovelace in my opinion. :)
Post by: ayrton on September 15, 2025, 05:18:28 PM
Post by: salem on September 21, 2025, 10:35:11 AM
Post by: solvegas on September 21, 2025, 10:03:00 PM
:)
She was/is one of the best-looking Porn stars of the last 40 years or so. :)
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Post by: 3deroticer on December 28, 2025, 09:09:33 PM
Post by: solvegas on December 28, 2025, 10:59:34 PM
she sits up and laugh
You did well 3deroticer. :)
Post by: solvegas on January 14, 2026, 07:49:47 AM