Post by: 3deroticer on June 01, 2005, 12:59:30 PM
Post by: berkovw on June 01, 2005, 03:57:09 PM
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I was looking for a date when BEA was conceptualized, It dawn on me that its been awhile.
I think it depends on what you mean by conceptualized. The BEA has been around for a shorter time in name than in conception. There were ftps and other sites and things out there that kind of coalesced into the BEA. I know I first found BEA type material on Acotto's FTP site and through the mailing list of the Louvre. Those were the BEA's early formative years, and I think they go back a little before that.
Post by: g0ddmode on June 01, 2005, 07:32:44 PM
Heck I even remember going to MelonieCharms.com website and downloading the "boobscrush" video. That was back in 97 I think.
Post by: turtle21 on June 01, 2005, 08:21:55 PM
Post by: MunchWolf on June 01, 2005, 08:21:56 PM
R&D was the newsletter .. and the BE Buddies was the mailing list (which is still around today .. and independant of the BEA) ...
there is also the BE-Loft, which was the IRC chatroom .. also independant of the BEA ...
-Munch "someday there won't be a BEA .. but there still will be a BE movement" Wolf
Post by: The Warlock on June 01, 2005, 08:37:36 PM
The Warlock
Post by: Tsunami2k on June 01, 2005, 09:22:43 PM
Post by: SHADY on June 01, 2005, 09:31:26 PM
TEAM BEfAithful
Post by: RDaneel on June 01, 2005, 10:16:16 PM
Good question...
RD
Post by: 3deroticer on June 02, 2005, 12:34:27 AM
It would even be nice to know what the actual first date for the BEA and make it into a national holiday and celebrate!
Post by: mrgp on June 02, 2005, 12:41:00 AM
Post by: MaxBigfoot on June 02, 2005, 12:45:08 AM
Post by: doggo on June 02, 2005, 12:56:30 AM
Post by: mrgp on June 02, 2005, 01:01:24 AM
Post by: ninkasi on June 02, 2005, 01:36:17 AM
Post by: shadowcom on June 02, 2005, 05:32:02 AM
Post by: Prophet_Tenebrae on June 02, 2005, 06:07:30 AM
I suppose the real problem with trying to remember the history of a website is that things tend to blend together. Anyway, I'm sure that a few of the older guys will back me up if I'm right in remembering that the original incarnation was the Breast Expansion Story Archive.
Anyway, I think that it must have been around considerably before 1998 if only because that was the year that the Addventure began and that wasn't on the site from the start. As I said though, my memories of website history is far from perfect. Stop me if I'm wrong.
And of course, kudos to MunchWolf for pointing out that the BEA never was, is not and most likely will not always be the summation of the entire BE community - which a lot of people seem to forget.
Post by: CyberPlainsDrifter on June 02, 2005, 02:15:15 PM
As I recall BEA kinda grew as an extension of Acotto's FTP site, which somewhat supplied the images that were written about or discussed. Very few images where available when Mosaic first launched. Most 'Net connections then were too slow to handle images over 20Kb. Most info could only be gotten via Gopher, which was kind of a text only type browser which mostly linked to other Gopher sites & documents. I had a 14.4 modem & when the 28.8 came out, they seemed to be screamin' fast! Most images were zipped to save space & time & the JPEG spec was still in the works or was not well adopted yet.
If I had to put a date on the BEA it'd have to be around late '95 or earlier '96.
Post by: doggo on June 02, 2005, 03:47:10 PM
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If I had to put a date on the BEA it'd have to be around late '95 or earlier '96.
That's sounding about right.
Looking back at R&D, it was still hosted at Will Bow's AASB and at Wren's site in July-August 1997 and there is a mention of the BEA in a familiar manner. R&D would have been hosted at BEA from around the beginning of February 1998, more or less at the same time as the new server was commissioned.
Post by: 3deroticer on June 03, 2005, 11:46:03 AM
side note* I guess I am not sure how this is a site issues? there is nothing about the working of the site.
Post by: doggo on June 03, 2005, 01:04:13 PM
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side note* I guess I am not sure how this is a site issues? there is nothing about the working of the site.
I'd agree with that. It had spread beyond the original anniversary question to become a lively and interesting discussion on the history of the BE movement.
Moving it in here relegates it to a backwater and it is simply not the proper place for it. Unless, of course, you take an extremely narrow, blinkered and over-literal view of the name and purpose of this forum.
Post by: Palomine on June 03, 2005, 01:20:41 PM
Post by: Nimrod on June 03, 2005, 05:41:43 PM
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22 June 1997, AFAIR. Just after the "death" of "AASB".
I went back into my archives and my memory and it was sometime in June of 1997 that something similar to the current BEA came together. I hit it from a link at Wren and also via Search.com
I recall an early front page had a static BE logo at one point. I second shadowcom's date...
1) because it jives with my memory and files
2) because a true fixed date would be hard to lock down for an internet site
3) it is the first full day of Summer.
3) it is Kithara's birthday!
So, until I hear (read) otherwise the anniversary date of the BEA shall be -
June 22nd, 1997 the date of birth for the current BEA
Post by: Palomine on June 03, 2005, 09:33:30 PM
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22 June 1997, AFAIR. Just after the "death" of "AASB".
I went back into my archives and my memory and it was sometime in June of 1997 that something similar to the current BEA came together. I hit it from a link at Wren and also via Search.com
I recall an early front page had a static BE logo at one point. I second shadowcom's date...
1) because it jives with my memory and files
2) because a true fixed date would be hard to lock down for an internet site
3) it is the first full day of Summer.
3) it is Kithara's birthday!
So, until I hear (read) otherwise the anniversary date of the BEA shall be -
June 22nd, 1997 the date of birth for the current BEA
Yes, I meant to say so earlier... I agree that Shadowcom's date is as close as we're likely to get... mid-'97 feels correct. I miss the old forum.
Post by: doggo on June 04, 2005, 03:09:23 PM
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Nor are the other forums 'backwaters' IMO...
At the moment of writing, two users were viewing the Off Topic forum, one was viewing this one, 31 were viewing the General Forum.
Say what you like and slice it whichever way you will, this forum is a de facto backwater.
Post by: Palomine on June 04, 2005, 03:33:39 PM
[good natured sarcasm]
You've got an intersting idea of what 'backwater' means. Would you like me to draw you a map so that you can get back to the General Forum safely?
[/good natured sarcasm]
Post by: TheHerald on June 04, 2005, 04:37:21 PM
Back on the main topic in THIS thread..
I have a 95% sure memory of my first visit to the BEA being in the summer of 1997 (probably July). I first saw it when clicking on a link from Bust Artist's site (which I found before the BEA). The earliest memory of the Forum I have was a flame war going on between Captain Canuck and other Forum users. The discussion hinted that this was the second (or more) time that the "discussion" had turned so vicious and people were getting tired of CC's childish/etc. posts. I vaguely recall posts by users St. Stephan and/or Palomine trying to calm the situation down.
On the brighter side, I remember that Goober and JS used to UL many fine images to the User Gallery about this time (Goober: photos and JS: manga, especially "Blue Eyes"). I was strickly a lurker for about 2-3 years before finally speaking up on the subject of where our online names came from. Shortly after delurking, I started ULing many Xpod images to the UG (5/day was strongly suggested back then as a courtesy, but I don't think it was enforced). I remember the request for hardware (faster modems!, bigger hard drives, etc.) for the server (as well as money).
Er, I'm rambling beyond the initial start date.
My point is.. I was under the impression that the BEA had been running earlier then June 22, 1997; but since I first saw it in July of that year, I can't be certain HOW much earlier. The snapshot of the 1998 website is what I remember how it looked in 1997.
Post by: doggo on June 05, 2005, 05:21:42 AM
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Without some semblence of organization doggo, the forums would quickly become unusable with ALL kinds of content stuffed into the GF... OF COURSE fewer visitors come to any forum OTHER than the GF... and that proves what exactly? Is that one extra click to get to the section of the site that contains RELEVANT information too much effort? I don't think so myself. Some organization is necessary and beneficial IMO.
Fine, except that this thread, by opening up discussion on the origins of the BEA, has become more a history of the BE movement than a plain old answer to the question in the thread title. After all, the Owner could have replied to the first post: "June 1997, Eight years." End of story. But he didn't, and in discussing it now we have strayed far beyond the topic of the site itself.
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[good natured sarcasm]
You've got an intersting idea of what 'backwater' means. Would you like me to draw you a map so that you can get back to the General Forum safely?
[/good natured sarcasm]
[gentle irony]
Please do try, Palomine, to keep this discussion above the level of Prime Minister's Questions.
[/gentle irony]
To avoid having this thread moved into the Off Topic Forum, the estimate of June '97 sounds good, although AASB wasn't dead by then as R&D was still hosted (Issue 29) at AASB in June '97. R&D moved to Wren-Spot, Diana's and Cygor's shortly after this, and BEA was probably added to the hosts with Issue 33, in November 1997.
Post by: Nimrod on June 05, 2005, 11:07:50 AM
I recall some of that too! So far we have 3 votes for June 22nd, 1997 and your confirmation from the following month. Yes, the site may have been "coming together" prior to that date but I recall some sort of announcement with a June 22nd date in the "site issues".
It still feels like the middle of June, 1997 is just about the time that this place got it together - and June 22nd just works too well for enough people not to consider it an acceptable "line in the sand".
We are all correct, I just like that it is also Kithara's birthday!
Not just that, I am also agreeing with Shadowcom and Palomine
Post by: Palomine on June 05, 2005, 11:23:04 AM
Post by: doggo on June 05, 2005, 01:50:05 PM
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...some input from the Owner would have been nice...
I'd guess he can't remember. I'm damned sure I can't.
A nice British-style compromise; pinning this item will keep an interesting subject in the public eye. It's only like eight years ago, but a tremendous lot has happened in those eight years. It's History, and we're all a part of it.
Dear Mr Blair, you are more than welcome to use that last sentence in your next moist-eyed, lip-quivering speech.
Post by: Palomine on June 05, 2005, 02:08:25 PM
Post by: TheHerald on June 05, 2005, 02:39:38 PM
Post by: doggo on June 05, 2005, 02:53:34 PM
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...correct the spelling and grammer... (sic)
But yes, it would be nice!
Post by: TheHerald on June 05, 2005, 03:19:44 PM
Correct spelling confirmed in "The Random House Dictionary" and made above!
..or words to that effect.
Post by: doggo on June 05, 2005, 03:27:34 PM
Post by: Palomine on June 05, 2005, 07:05:36 PM
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Now that this thread is stickied, I wonder if 3deroticer would mind if a mod would (PLEASE!) correct the spelling and grammar of the title/subject line?
Done and done. Of course, even though I fixed the ORIGINAL subject (and thus the listing in the SI forum) the typos still appear in reply headers inside the thread.
Post by: JustMeMike on June 08, 2005, 04:33:15 PM
I knew of big tits, and hoped for even bigger ones. The world of big tits was magazines and videos. Bill Ward.
Anyway here comes the BEA - Owner and contributors gave us pictures, and dirty stories, and a place to meet.
It was summer of 97 - and the owner asked for voluntary contributions - so I sent $25 - and didnt expect a thing for it. I hoped the place would stick around.
Later I bought a 9 month 'membership' for $90. I also recall doing up a BEA Newsletter and sending it to Owner.
It was November of 97 that I hooked up with Al-The-Editor and did my first set of reviews for R & D.
So I concur with doggo who also suggests the BEA began that summer.
From New York, this is ....
JustMeMike
Post by: smiley on September 18, 2005, 02:46:57 PM
Hi, I'm a long-time lurker at the BEA and reading this thread (the respected JustMeMike's last post in particular) has inspired me to delurk and ask a question.
Although I am not at present in the market for a BEArchive membership is there a way of contributing a sum of money to the BEA (perhaps through PayPal)? This would be a no-strings donation in gratitude for the years of enjoyment the BEA's content and forum posts have provided.
I'm sorry if I have missed an obvious Donate button somewhere.
Can't be a taker all my life
Post by: auto_reply on September 18, 2005, 05:47:07 PM
The Breast Expansion Archive
1 BEA Circle
Springfield USA
Post by: The Warlock on September 18, 2005, 05:48:32 PM
The Warlock
Post by: Morphermor on September 18, 2005, 06:18:24 PM
assholes to the right of me.
here i am, stuck in the middle
with smiley and The Warlock.
life is good sometimes...
Post by: The Warlock on September 18, 2005, 08:20:09 PM
The Warlock
Post by: MaxBigfoot on September 19, 2005, 01:35:32 PM
Post by: auto_reply on September 19, 2005, 02:13:12 PM
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Post by: doggo on September 19, 2005, 02:39:48 PM
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I was so curious that I saved the file and opened it up in Irfanview to see it frame by frame. I still can't read the title, too small and blurry. It'll be a mystery for the ages.
I very nearly did that this afternoon. Now I'm so glad I didn't!
Post by: Morphermor on September 19, 2005, 04:17:06 PM
Dark Was The Night--Cold Was The Ground
January 21, 1913
"Blind Willie" Johnson was born in Texas about 1902. Some reports say it was in Marlin, others say near Temple and the family then moved to Marlin. At age 5, Johnson announced to his father that he was going to become a preacher and fashioned his first guitar out of a cigar box.
Johnson's father remarried following the death of young Johnson's mother. He caught Johnson's stepmother cheating and beat her her up. Her response was to throw lye into 7 year old Willie Johnson's face to deliberately blind him.
Willie taught himself to play the guitar and accompanied himself using a pocketknife for a slide to mimic his voice. Johnson's father would take him into the town of Hearne and leave him to play on the corner every Saturday with a tin cup tied around his neck.
At age twenty-five he married a young singer named Angelina, sister of blues guitarist L. C. "Good Rockin'" Robinson (1915-76). Angelina accompanied Johnson on some of his recordings for Columbia Records between 1927 and 1930.
Although some blues singers tussled with the pull between the blues and religious music, Blind Willie came down firmly on the side of the religious -- in a way. He had the power to make a religious song sound like the blues and a blues song sound holy.
He sang in a "rasping false bass," and played bottleneck guitar with "uncanny left-handed strength, accuracy and agility." So **76** was his voice that legend has it he was once arrested for inciting a riot simply by standing in front of the New Orleans Customs House singing "If I Had My Way I'd Tear This Building Down."
Ry Cooder once called Johnson's "Dark Was The Night Cold Was the Ground" the most "transcendent piece in all American music." Additionally, his "Jesus Make Up My Dying Bed" is another masterpiece of slide work.
Ironically, Johnson died of pneumonia following a fire that burned down his home. He **84** on wet bedding his wife had prepared for him, got sick and passed on to blues heaven.
Post by: USER_2_NOT_FOUND on January 07, 2006, 09:43:23 PM
I believe we operated for about a year or so without even our own .com name. The date of 22 June 1997 is either right on the money or very close.
-- BEA Publisher
Post by: TheHerald on January 08, 2006, 12:51:10 AM
As a personal aside, I'm still amazed how soon I discovered the site after it became a website (about a month). I was working IT support at the time and had just gained a dial-up connection to use as a free trial. Somehow, I stumbled upon Bust Artist's site, which essentially had the BEA as the only real choice for a link to another site. I took the hint.
Post by: doggo on January 08, 2006, 02:32:24 AM
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The date of 22 June 1997 is either right on the money or very close.
Yes, yes, but what time?
Post by: gOOber on January 08, 2006, 05:50:45 AM
Quote:local time, universal time, GMT?
Yes, yes, but what time?
Post by: The Warlock on January 08, 2006, 11:38:29 AM
The Warlock
Post by: jayjay88 on February 07, 2006, 07:08:37 AM
Except, by way of perspective: Isn't it strange that we all are caught up in a significant piece of technological and social history [the internet] which in a very short time, in only a matter of a decade or so, has progressed from a snail's pace to a lightning strike!...from the written word and a few small photos, to hi-rez pics, music, and HDvideo.
And the 'bearchive' community has had its role to fill within that history...and we are all a part of it.
Post by: Arow on May 04, 2006, 05:52:18 PM
Post by: Nimrod on June 26, 2006, 06:23:42 PM
June 22, 1997
9 years!
and Kithara is "just old enough"
What to do for the 10 year mark?
Post by: titmouse on May 10, 2007, 06:30:52 PM
Just a list of stories. No forum.
That would have been 1997 when I was at UMCP.
Post by: Nimrod on June 22, 2012, 09:11:49 PM
Happy Birthday BEA - 15 years today!!!
and
Happy Birthday to Kithara! ;D
also
This is my 1000th post!
Those who keep track can finally breathe a sigh of relief
Post by: DruulEmpire on June 23, 2012, 04:31:02 AM
Hey, wait a minute -- does this mean that come summer 2015, the BEA will be LEGAL!? :o
Post by: Nimrod on June 22, 2013, 06:21:44 AM
June 22nd, 1997 to June 22nd, 2013
16 Years!
And to think that Kithara and I have been here the whole time.
That means the BEA is old enough to drive...
Also this is my 1110th post - so I made 110 contributions to the BEA in the last year. :)
Also HAPPY BIRTHDAY KITHARA!... oh, she is in the same room... I do not need to yell. :-*
Post by: solvegas on June 22, 2013, 07:29:44 AM
Also HAPPY BIRTHDAY KITHARA!... oh, she is in the same room... I do not need to yell. :-*
Happy birthday Kithara ! :)
Post by: gOOber on June 22, 2013, 09:14:48 AM
Post by: Adama on June 22, 2013, 01:08:40 PM
Post by: pedonbio on June 22, 2013, 03:27:01 PM
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In honor of the late doggo, I suggest GMT, now called UT for universal time.
Post by: Nimrod on June 23, 2014, 06:54:59 AM
June 22nd, 1997 to June 22nd, 2014
17 Years!
Feels like the BEA is growing up so fast, getting ready to go off to college.
Lucky 17 - I wonder what this year will bring...
Also this is my 1265th post - so I made 155 contributions to the BEA in the last year. :)
As always HAPPY BIRTHDAY KITHARA! on the first day of summer.
Post by: Nimrod on June 23, 2017, 01:53:48 AM
June 22nd, 1997 to June 22nd, 2017
20 Years!
20th anniversary of the start of this crazy place.
You would think that 20 years would be a major thing here.
Also this is my 1617th post - we must be slowing down....
As always HAPPY BIRTHDAY KITHARA! on the first day of summer.
Post by: Nimrod on June 22, 2023, 04:39:45 PM
June 22nd, 1997 to June 22nd, 2023
26 Years!
26th anniversary of the start of this crazy place.
You would think that anything over 25 years would be a major thing here.
we must all be slowing down....
As always HAPPY BIRTHDAY KITHARA! on the first day of summer.
Post by: solvegas on June 22, 2023, 09:02:33 PM
Post by: Breasts on August 22, 2023, 02:31:39 PM
Another BEA year everybody!Blimey!
June 22nd, 1997 to June 22nd, 2023
26 Years!
26th anniversary of the start of this crazy place.
You would think that anything over 25 years would be a major thing here.
we must all be slowing down....
As always HAPPY BIRTHDAY KITHARA! on the first day of summer.
Post by: Robin_K2 on August 25, 2023, 03:38:58 PM
What I want to know is its height and cup size!