Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on September 21, 2001, 06:15:00 AM
anyway, Crystal Gunns got a website, official one 
, but it's not open, =( yet! see yaa... =)
[ September 21, 2001: Message edited by: hooterman ]
Post by: Boobwatch One on September 21, 2001, 07:11:00 AM
Post by: Ace2 on September 21, 2001, 10:21:00 AM
I talked to her for a while at the Fan Fair. She's a dancer in New York and has recently decided to become a feature. If memory serves me correctly, she will be featured in several magazine spreads in the near future. As good as she looks in those pics, she looks even better in person 
Ace2
Post by: Varchild on September 21, 2001, 04:47:00 PM
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on November 02, 2001, 08:45:00 AM
She has a new site at photoclubs.
see yaa... =)
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on November 13, 2001, 04:35:00 AM
see yaa... =)
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on December 05, 2001, 05:03:00 PM
Well, just FYI here's the girl who's definitely worth it:Crystal Gunns is exploding over @ www.Hooters.dk !
3 different 10 pix sets up in the UG and 5 more cumming!?
Post by: Aahz on December 05, 2001, 06:00:00 PM
Aahz.
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on December 07, 2001, 05:13:00 PM
Actually - I've never had any troubles with popups @ Hooters.dk! (Mac and slow 28.8 modem must help?) I was just kidding bout Hooters being a popup hell ( C the graemlin?) since that seems 2 B what's been discussed most about Hooters.dk in this forum. Anyways - the Crysmas show goes on @ Hooters.dk! 
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on December 30, 2001, 01:17:00 AM
see yaa... =)
[ December 29, 2001: Message edited by: hooterman ]
Post by: Dick_Woods on December 30, 2001, 09:16:00 AM
-D&J
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on January 05, 2002, 07:07:00 AM
And the name is too un-original.
Post by: kalani on January 05, 2002, 09:10:00 AM
IMHO, Crystal Gunns is a fine-bodied honey whose full round breasts could keep me busy all night long and then some!
She's one new star I intend to keep an eye -- make that both eyes and anything else I can get away with -- on!
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on January 05, 2002, 09:33:00 AM
The name "goat" isn't very original or clever either!!!!!
So, you're even. How's about that!
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on January 05, 2002, 09:41:00 AM
why did you even bother to reply?
Post by: Gtech on January 05, 2002, 12:39:00 PM
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on January 06, 2002, 01:48:00 AM
Are you only attracted to females with six teats?
Lets not even mention your **94** problem!
[ January 06, 2002: Message edited by: Mammeistro ]
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on January 06, 2002, 08:06:00 AM
Post by: ac man on January 08, 2002, 03:09:00 PM
with an email address and a few pics,
hopefully more to come!
Post by: trev on February 11, 2002, 11:52:00 AM
'Yes this summer.Love Crystal'
Post by: Raiden on February 12, 2002, 01:52:00 AM
WOW!
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on February 11, 2002, 05:28:00 PM
Can't wait.
see yaa... =)
¡¡¡Hi Joi!!!
Post by: Davastav on February 12, 2002, 09:54:00 AM
My question is - when will Chelsea Charms explode? I mean on that tiny frame of hers it looks like she is getting close to maximum bust capacity. 
Post by: rtpoe on February 14, 2002, 09:36:00 PM
If you're interested, Crystal Gunns will be appearing at New York Dolls in NYC next week (Feb 18-23).
NY Dolls is on Murray St. in lower Manhattan, two blocks west of City Hall.
Showtimes are scheduled for 6:30, 9, and (if I remember the ad correctly) midnight.
Check her out!
rtpoe
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on February 15, 2002, 02:09:00 PM
see yaa... =)
¡¡¡¡ Hi Joi !!!!
Post by: Dick_Woods on February 16, 2002, 12:22:00 PM
-D&J
Post by: Dick_Woods on May 10, 2002, 09:33:12 PM
-D&J
Post by: siliconlover on June 04, 2002, 04:55:36 PM
Fear not, SiliconLover to the rescue...go and check out the following site, and download to your heart's content:
http://www.phatforums.com/BooBMart/posts/02-05-25/222.shtml
There are about 8 x 2,50 Mb movies of her on the site, so just right click and save as. Each segment is approximately one minute long and the quality is very good.
Enjoy.....I did!
SiliconLover.
"Cause huge breasts and slim waists go together"
Post by: Raiden on June 04, 2002, 09:08:04 PM
TONS and TONS OF POP-UP WINDOWS IF YOU TRY TO DOWNLOAD!
==
Post by: Elliot James on June 04, 2002, 09:19:06 PM
Post by: Janus on June 05, 2002, 05:06:09 AM
Anyone else kinda bored with little mini-clips? I mean, now that DSL and cable are getting more popular, I'd really like to download senes. Kinda like voluptuous vixens.
Man, I just got that DVD.....it NAILED all the fun stuff about big breasts. The best was the scene with Traci Topps. I love the intro Russ Meyer had in that scene. He explained the great way you can get a humorous reaction from a man when he sees a busty woman. I have to say that man is one of my heros...he can love breasts without looking like a jerk. He's a connosoir of the bust. (ok I may have forgotten the spelling, but its a good word to say.)
J- GTO - Don't know what that means? Look it up...the best show EVER.
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on June 06, 2002, 01:24:38 PM
I have a copy of Mondo Topless that I watch from time to time, just because it's a fun show to watch, and millions of time more sexy than anything Scoreland, Danni, Photoclubs, or any of the smaller sites have put out EVER.
I got really sick of all these big-bust sites that give us 10 minute videos of a busty gal standing perfectly still, maybe licking a nipple once in a while (and that gets old REAL
fast).
Just watch 5 minutes of Mondo sometime if you find a copy. Real breasts swinging, rocking, flying all over the place! I've long since cancelled my Danni and BEA subscriptions in disgust, I'm convinced nobody wants to have any fun with these girls anymore, since all of you suckers out there are paying them billions and not complaining one ounce.
Even VV1 and VV2 are boring by Russ' standards. I wonder
why he even agreed to do them (probably to recruit more
girls)
Post by: Dick_Woods on September 24, 2002, 01:44:42 PM
Dick and Jane
Post by: Scarab on November 23, 2002, 05:44:25 PM
http://www.photoclubs.com/vip150.shtml
-Scarab
Post by: turbo on November 23, 2002, 07:48:00 PM
Generally, I prefer true titters but Crystal's sew-ins are quite attractive. I just hope she doesn't try to get to the ridiculous sizes that some of her bigger sisters have attained.
Post by: Zasha on November 23, 2002, 10:55:50 PM
Post by: Grayface on November 24, 2002, 01:58:05 AM
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Post by: Whink on November 24, 2002, 06:36:41 AM
That being said, my lady works out like crazy but with light weights and has enough softness where it counts!
Breast
Dub-Ya
Post by: gabyybag on November 24, 2002, 04:36:58 PM
Thanks for the link.
see yaa... =)
Post by: Zasha on November 25, 2002, 01:21:52 AM
Post by: D_U_S_K on November 25, 2002, 07:27:23 AM
Ill wrassle' you 'dough.
Post by: bonfire on November 27, 2002, 05:52:38 PM
Post by: Zasha on November 27, 2002, 06:11:22 PM
So could my previous post be construed as rude? I thought I was polite in justifying my position...
Post by: Dick_Woods on November 27, 2002, 08:14:12 PM
You DID say it nicely...although, I don't know if you've ever seen Crystal in person...but she (like you) is extremely beautiful with a terrific figure...just different. I know you didnt even imply that she wasn't...but she is a breathtaking young lady. If she ever comes to your club...she's worth sticking around to watch. She is DEFINATELY one of our favorites.
-Dick
Post by: D_U_S_K on November 27, 2002, 11:40:30 PM
Still could beat ya in a wrasslin' match.
Post by: Zasha on November 28, 2002, 12:31:55 AM
The other thought was in relation to another thread about being rude and slamming other people. I thought that if one read both of my posts, one would figure out that I like Crystal, but if one only read that last one, they might think I was skewering her, which I didn't intend in any way.
Thanks Dick! I haven't seen her, and I hope that she'll come over to the "left coast" someday. Or maybe sometime I'll catch her on one of my infrequesnt trips to the "right coast."
Ta!
Post by: Dick_Woods on January 12, 2003, 08:48:13 PM
Goodnight to all!!!!!!!!!!
Crystal
Post by: mrmethane on January 12, 2003, 09:15:10 PM
Post by: MunchWolf on January 12, 2003, 09:57:21 PM
-Munch "can ya set up a dog pen for me?" Wolf
Post by: Catch on January 12, 2003, 11:02:39 PM
Post by: Prophet_Tenebrae on January 13, 2003, 11:30:14 AM
Post by: D_U_S_K on January 13, 2003, 03:42:52 PM
In reply to:
I think I am going to become a member so I can see what you horney men are writing about me.
Pheh, Figures that female admirers get overlooked.
Post by: JizzTits on January 13, 2003, 04:08:30 PM
Post by: BillN on January 13, 2003, 04:26:48 PM
thought you ought to know.........
Post by: Pacman on January 13, 2003, 04:36:29 PM
Cause that's what I picture.
(Dick may be the only one who's going to get this one.)
Post by: Dick_Woods on January 13, 2003, 06:20:34 PM
Dusk, have you ever gone to see Crystal?....or any other feature for that matter?
...you should kiddo....we could count on one hand how many other women we have seen at these clubs. They could use EVERYONE's support.
Go see her, say hi. You won't regret it.
Peace, Love and Light -D&J
Post by: Johnny_Swell on January 13, 2003, 06:42:14 PM
Now all I have to do is figure out how to get one of these girls to come model for a drawing in my office here in Vegas
Johnny "jealous and trying not to be too obvious" Swell
Post by: Dick_Woods on February 22, 2003, 05:09:58 AM
Elliot, if your reading...your product has no equal on the market.
Peace, Love and Light -D&J
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on February 22, 2003, 06:25:05 AM
Post by: Pacman on February 23, 2003, 03:43:00 AM
I think she's among the most beautiful women I have ever seen.
Post by: Dick_Woods on March 10, 2003, 06:24:15 PM
Lets see how many Members *and* lurkers we can get out to see her show. Most of you know that we are biased...but gang, D&J would never steer you wrong...this girl is special.
Since this was an impromptu booking...the NYC papers didn't get a chance to advertise, so we are sure she could use the extra few people there. Lets show our support!!!!
Peace, Love and Light -D&J
Post by: BillN on March 10, 2003, 06:34:06 PM
Oh, what the Hell, Dick, just treat yourself to a lap dance.
What you don't think we're good for it?
Post by: donny_dante on September 22, 2003, 06:26:43 AM
Post by: Pixeltiger on September 22, 2003, 09:21:58 AM
I am sorry to disappoint, but I very much doubt she will be upgrading. I'd love to see it too. Still, you can't have everything. You can have Keisha though - the BE poster girl
Pixeltiger
Post by: Dick_Woods on September 22, 2003, 08:55:18 PM
And for those who live in the NY/NJ area.... you *gotta* go see her... those of you that have read our posts before know that we are partial to Crystal.....but you have to trust us on this....GO!!!!!!
-D&J
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on September 22, 2003, 08:57:53 PM
Oct 9 - 11
Mario's Showplace
Massachusetts
Post by: Whink on September 23, 2003, 09:01:55 AM
Quote:
And look at that! She will be in the Boston area very soon too!
Massachusetts
Hey Juggernaut;
Please do us a favor and ask her what her plans are for expansion or staying the same.
Cheers mate!
W
Post by: Bender65 on March 15, 2004, 06:31:53 AM
Bender65
Post by: Breasts on August 24, 2004, 04:35:37 PM
Post by: CrystalGunns on September 08, 2004, 10:53:07 PM
Any feedback on what size I should go to feel free to e-mail me at my site, or send morphed pics for my fan photo section. By the way, I am here at Dick and Jane's house, and I want to thank them for turning me on to the BEA! Thanks for making dinner, Dick, and Jane thanks for turning down one of the guys that I was fucking!!! lmao...
bye for now, love you all, Crystal
Post by: Tesseract on September 08, 2004, 11:32:27 PM
Post by: MunchWolf on September 08, 2004, 11:49:31 PM
-Munch "of your posts I mean
" Wolf
Post by: Crazyjose on September 08, 2004, 11:54:44 PM
welcome abouard and hope you come back offen. I know you are in good hand with Dick and Jane. It is always a pleasure to meet you and hope you visit Southern California soon.
Crazyjose
Post by: echo_valley on September 09, 2004, 12:47:42 AM
Post by: TheBeavMan on September 09, 2004, 12:57:43 AM
(p.s. any relation to BB Guns by the way... thought i'd ask)
Post by: Crazyjose on September 09, 2004, 01:16:33 AM
I was great meeting you also. You looked great and I wished I had more time in Vegas to spend with you.
Post by: Cutter on September 09, 2004, 04:47:29 AM
Dick and Jane need some kind of medal for bringing you to us Lady Crystal Gunns.
Welcome to out little slice of heaven.
Post by: CrystalGunns on September 09, 2004, 11:30:03 AM
Post by: MasterX0 on September 09, 2004, 11:30:50 AM
Post by: Breasts on September 09, 2004, 11:34:30 AM
Post by: CrystalGunns on September 09, 2004, 11:39:18 AM
Post by: Breasts on September 09, 2004, 11:51:09 AM
You said you wouldn't be going as big as Chelsea which is fair enough, but how close to her size would you be willing to go?
Post by: Hentaibee on September 09, 2004, 11:54:18 AM
welcome aboard Crystal
Post by: CrystalGunns on September 09, 2004, 12:52:13 PM
Post by: Dick_Woods on September 09, 2004, 12:53:54 PM
And thanks for the props Cutter!...but as long as your handing out medals...we'll take two...remember who introduced the ravashing Echo to this site?
Boy...we have a tough life, huh?
-D&J
Post by: Pixeltiger on September 09, 2004, 01:33:50 PM
Crystal is the sweetest and funnest person one could ever wish to meet. Beneath that gorgeous exterior and one-woman-party attitude she is also a real softie. Crystal it's great to have you here.
I hope you make to the AVN in january. I don't wanna have to wait til next august to see you again
Pixeltiger
PS In case BEA people don't know, Echo has legs to die for as well as a great rack
Post by: Breasts on September 09, 2004, 05:07:47 PM
It's much appreciated One other thing I want to say is I think you really deserved your SCORE Newcommer award last year, You had my vote.
Post by: breastrespect1 on September 09, 2004, 06:05:21 PM
That is a great pic of you and chelsea, i am am huge fan of both of you, though i must admit to being a bit more into her just for her size, which is now incredible. I bought the dvd w/ you and chelsea, I can't wait for the new one, you think it will be out that soon, cause I can't wait! Could you please post any other oics of you and chesea together form vegas if possible? Thanks
Post by: Kopy Kat on September 09, 2004, 06:18:26 PM
Umm feedback on how big you should go? How about like Tawney Peaks before her redux or like Pandora Peaks, Deena Duos, or Lulu Devine?
Post by: Kenard on September 09, 2004, 06:24:08 PM
Welcome to the BEA, You will find lots of boob hounds, Friends and interesting people here. I hope you can stop by often.
Post by: BarneyFife on September 09, 2004, 06:51:45 PM
Post by: Angelus on September 09, 2004, 09:24:02 PM
Bad thing: Crystal is a Dolphins fan. (or so I've heard).
Anyway, welcome!
Post by: Angelus on September 09, 2004, 09:25:58 PM
Quote:
Boy...we have a tough life, huh?
-D&J
You're young, you travel the country, you're in love, you've got giant boobs to play with, and you hang out with giant breasted women. If I didn't know any better, I'd say Dick is veering for Hefner territory.
Post by: BILLCLINTON on September 09, 2004, 09:40:17 PM
LOVE BILL CLINTON A.K.A SLICK WILLIE!!
P.S. PLEASE DON'T TELL HILLARY.
Post by: solvegas on September 09, 2004, 09:45:36 PM
Are we mad ? I really hope Dick and Jane can talk her into joining our site like Crystal . If they do , we should award them a Medal of Honor or at least a Navy Cross .
Post by: BarneyFife on September 09, 2004, 10:05:09 PM
Post by: CrystalGunns on September 09, 2004, 10:36:14 PM
Post by: CrystalGunns on September 09, 2004, 10:38:57 PM
Post by: CrystalGunns on September 09, 2004, 10:53:36 PM
Post by: Liam on September 09, 2004, 11:08:58 PM
Post by: Craig_Mercer on September 10, 2004, 01:12:24 AM
Post by: Clognuts on September 10, 2004, 01:33:16 AM
Dallas sucks
Welcome to the forum
next time your in philly i'll get you a cheesesteak
Post by: gabyybag on September 10, 2004, 04:01:42 PM
¡¡¡Hi!!! & Welcome to the board!
"what size I should go" As big as you can?
or maybe just as big as you want to be. 'The bigger the Better'. see yaa... =)
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on September 10, 2004, 04:34:20 PM
Post by: Hentaibee on September 10, 2004, 05:55:51 PM
Quote:
Good to see Crystal here . We need all the fine looking ladies to come here and converse with us . Thank you Dick and Jane for talking her to post here . Thank you Crystal for your presence here in our little ol' site . Wish Chelsea would post here . I mentioned to her about our site and she knows about us , but she won't join because she said we are mean to her . I was floored when I heard that and saddened . Chelsea , like Crystal , is a living , talking fantasy and we are mean to her ?
look. some people here just don't seem to know how to treat a lady and write very outgoing pms and such...
I would advise Chelsea eihter not to post here and just post in her paid area where the guys behave...or simple read here with fake name to see whats up..
with the biggest fake chest its normal that a lady will get way too many way too raunchy/jealous/freaked out comments, mails and pms...
and the last thing we'd want is her to burn out from all the flaming and such...
after all there happened a lot of shit back in the days when she worked with kleevco....(or so I ve heard)
And It seems chelsea does like attention up to a certain point but is a bit of a shy type by nature nonetheless... so I would not applaud **77** her (or anyone else for that matter) into something she doesnt necesarilly see fit.
there will always be someone who cant behave and will send stuff like "i want your titz to eggsplode" and such ...
no one should turn his fantasy into a harrasment.
so if she wants to be treated classy, I recommend the above procedures
I'm sure she must be pretty stressed already from her and her webmaster having to reply to email all day when they have some free minutes.
-just my 2 (euro-)cents. I'm sure people who know her better, like miss Gunns here can give her good advice.
excuse my lenghty post, by the way
Post by: rtpoe on September 10, 2004, 09:53:32 PM
I guess the thing to do when inviting a model to join this Forum is to advise them to lurk around a bit first, so they get a sense of who the Good Guys and who the Bad Guys are.
Then, if they decide that the water's fine, dive right in.
If they decide not to join the fun, they can always use the excuse that "they are too busy with (whatever) and don't have time to post" or "they don't have regular Internet access (being on the road and all)". And no one's feelings get hurt.
rtpoe
Post by: MadDogHoek on September 10, 2004, 11:24:36 PM
Post by: Johnny_Swell on September 11, 2004, 12:10:27 AM
Personally I'm kind of like-minded with Chelsea in her preference to not post places where there are things less than flattering said about me. Don't need the hassles. I have seen some complaints here about the fact that she doesn't give "full-service" during private dances. Now I don't care if I piss anyone off, because .. well actually I just don't care, but 'private dance' to me indicates exactly that, it doesn't sound too misleading in my opinion, and to have read that some people think *less* of the lady because she decides not to have sex for cash just doesn't add up in my mental abacus. She doesn't need the stress, boys - being in the business of being a fantasy brought to life (as Echo, Crystal, and others will attest to I'm sure) is dramatic and stressful enough without having to defend themselves from people they don't know or wish they didn't.
I'm glad to see Crystal posting, she's a cool chick and looked stunning this past weekend, and so did Echo and Chelsea and Vixen and Jane and Crystal Storm and... you get the idea. Now if we can all relax and avoid the hormonal bumrush maybe they'll stick around a little while...
Johnny "I need a beer" Swell
Post by: Hentaibee on September 11, 2004, 06:05:00 AM
You got a way with words.
I actualy prefer models not doing sex fro money...it gives them an aura of unreachability...and that makes them sexier. And down to earth....
Not like some kind of super porn sluts (no offense lisa lipps)....
they are exotic DANCERS after all...
Post by: BarneyFife on September 11, 2004, 01:57:58 PM
Second, if you have not experienced a private dance from chelsea then you do not know about her personality,it is strictly business but chelsea will answer questions from her fan's,it may not be a lengthy answer but will do.Good for her she handles her private dances professionally and don't expect anything less.Some of us who have had private dances may want to know more about her yet because we are fans it takes alot to break barriers to be comfortable with someone to give more detailed answers.I believe Chilli Palmer can attest to my answer here about the business side of chelsea. I am like that myself hesitate about giving info to other people I do not know so I can see why chelsea is reserved.Most of the comments were just that chelsea is very reserved when meeting her and some fans wanted more. Hey in life nothing is perfect and sometimes your expectations are not met,deal with it as fans.
Ninety nine percent of the posters on this forum have nothing but admiration and respect for adult entertainers and it is the best way to learn just a little about someone granted not a perfect venue but a way to give some insite to the adult entertainers themselves. It is that same 99% of members that if someone gets out of hand will quickly defend the entertainers or for that matter any poster that has good intentions.
In summary this is not a lecture but just wanted to defend the forum that this is not a bad place.Chelsea would create alot of excitement if she came to the forum and would be another way for fans to know alittle more about her.It isn't a perfect venue but the best way for now.I have been a long time chelsea fan and I do not think chelsea has ever had a place to interact with fans granted she has her own forum and if you have been there the posters can get hostile sometimes so I can see why chelsea doesn't post. Other enteratiners like Vixen,melonie charms,Keisha Evans,Sable holiday have been greeted warmly and with respect and I would expect no different with Chelsea.
Post by: Hentaibee on September 11, 2004, 02:05:52 PM
Quote:
she has her own forum and if you have been there the posters can get hostile sometimes so I can see why chelsea doesn't post.
that's exactly why her forum is members only now..so people will behave and not be totally rude
Post by: BarneyFife on September 11, 2004, 05:05:52 PM
Post by: Beachbum on September 11, 2004, 05:57:17 PM
<raising glass> HERE HERE! Well said.
Post by: Hentaibee on September 11, 2004, 06:23:13 PM
Quote:
Barney,
<raising glass> HERE HERE! Well said.
ditto (^_^)
Post by: Dick_Woods on September 11, 2004, 07:22:24 PM
It is a gift whenever a model, or for that matter, even an amature posts here..... the vast majority of the people in this community understand that.
-D
Post by: Johnny_Swell on September 11, 2004, 08:58:58 PM
Quote:
No one has any problems with honest critizism...Chili is a perfect example...anything he has said has always been tempered, his words were never hurtful, just direct, and based on his experience...no problem there...Most models *have* experienced hurtful, and hateful things written about them in , not only these, but all forums. There is a difference between guarded critizism, and purposely hurtful comments.
It is a gift whenever a model, or for that matter, even an amature posts here..... the vast majority of the people in this community understand that.
-D
Yeah! What the good lookin couple said!
Johnny "shortest post for me ever" Swell
Post by: andrat2000 on September 11, 2004, 10:16:53 PM
So I take the possiblity posting into a Crystal Gunns thread!
Welcome Crystal! It is great that you join our community.
I'm curious what you have to tell us.
bye,
andrat2000
Post by: RoosterBoy on September 12, 2004, 05:19:56 PM
Post by: geffo1 on September 13, 2004, 04:48:33 AM
This is possibly the first time she's been an A cup!!
Post by: Breasts on November 14, 2004, 03:56:49 PM
Has she gone bigger yet?
Post by: Kasunagi on December 04, 2004, 12:26:43 AM
Some of the models become so big to the point that it dominates the rest of her body. Bigger breasts will make women more feminine and enhance her overall figure, but I appreciate the fact that a women has other curves such as their butt, legs, and abs.
I happened to see this thread and it is great that Crystal (and other models) are a part of this forum. If you read this Crystal, I hope that you will not be offend by my comments. I saw you about two years ago in Winnepeg, and I thought that you were beautiful and had a nice voluptuous body! I respect your decision as to how big you want to go, but please don't go to big, because the rest of you is just as nice.
This is a great site and the mods are doing an excellent job of maintaining this forum. I also would like to say that I respect everyone's opinions and preferences, and that I didn't want to offend anyone.
Post by: Hentaibee on December 04, 2004, 04:01:04 AM
Not Necesarilly! Just look at the famous ladies like Sarenaa, Dusty, Chelsea and so on. You didnt want to say the arent beautiful, did you???
As far as the majority of BEA is concerned, there is only the line between fantasy and reality.
And it's up to the models who want easy money to play with that boundary.
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on December 12, 2004, 08:42:42 PM
Her schedule can be found here: http://www.crystalgunns.com/schedule.html .
Post by: William on December 13, 2004, 09:19:55 AM
unfortunatly I only have Tuesday free, argh
So, it's club fantasies in providence ri instead.
Marios is easy to find, right off the side of Interstate 395.
Easy to get to, near CT, RI, Worchester Ma.
http://www.mariosshowplace.com/
directions
http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=&Pyt=Tmap&newFL=Use+Address+Below&addr=147+thompson+road&csz=webster,+ma&Country=us&Get%A0Map=Get+Map
Post by: Norse on March 16, 2007, 12:43:52 PM
Post by: CrazyFrankie on March 16, 2007, 02:15:44 PM
Post by: Mercerwatch on November 21, 2008, 09:17:26 PM
http://www.thedailyjournal.com/article/20081121/NEWS01/811210318
Post by: Real on November 21, 2008, 09:36:07 PM
crystal gunns a teacher's aide in your school? man some [censored] are spoiled. really tho i hope she escapes puritan persecution and is allowed to do her job...
EDIT - could have done better than alleging barack obama's crack use in trying to form an analogy to defend herself tho
...
Post by: DJPFC on November 21, 2008, 09:40:00 PM
I do think the part about her not having done any work in the business over the last five years is not exactly true, however.
Post by: Kopy Kat on November 21, 2008, 09:55:02 PM
Post by: mastert on November 22, 2008, 12:04:15 AM
Post by: zeo on November 22, 2008, 01:16:08 AM
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mastert said:
I taught in NJ schools. Parents are soooo paranoid about every little detail. If they become aware of her background, she will be out faster than the plastic surgeon could collect her money.
But someone in that town was looking at her work to figure it all out....
Post by: CrazyFrankie on November 22, 2008, 01:53:14 AM
Post by: ChrisR1 on November 22, 2008, 07:14:05 AM
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I feel bad for Crystal as I just read the article and it's all over the Philadelphia news media. For Crystal this will be hard to recover from. She's a fighter and I know she can get through this.
I agree - these parents are bitching about someone who was doing part time work helping [censored] for less than $6K annually - that's basically charity work. If the parents really cared so much, this would never as happened in the first place; there wouldn't have been an open position for CG to apply for, as the parents should be doing this sort of work with a waiting list...
Post by: Norse on November 22, 2008, 07:30:28 AM
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Post by: Hentaibee on November 22, 2008, 11:09:27 AM
Wish she were back in adult.
On the other hand dropping these kind of monies for such a noble job is impressive.
Post by: BarneyFife on November 22, 2008, 05:03:50 PM
Just maybe Crystal wants to do something else with her life that makes her happy yet the people at the school are dicriminating her because of being a stripper.I guess thats taboo in this society yet people want to hold it against you if you try to change your future.Whats the old saying those without sin cast the first stone,like none of these people have ever did anything questionable in their life.
Besides, the past is the past since she is doing a good job thats all that really counts.Trying to stamp someone as a bad person because there a stripper is like the 1700's when people were accused of witches yet probably were just smarter than regular people healing people.
In a nation where a black person just became president you would think people would grow up and consider all aspects of a person.In the article it even said she might be one of the best teacher aides they have had. Its not like she is a mass mudrerer or a robber give this girl a break,people change thats part of life.
Post by: Rentahero on November 22, 2008, 06:29:11 PM
Post by: xenon on November 22, 2008, 06:41:38 PM
This reminds me of other crap teachers get for having a life outside of teaching. I wish her the best. She apparently has moved on with her life, why can't everyone else that has an issue with this. I hate the news!
Post by: Bababooey86 on November 22, 2008, 07:43:44 PM
Hypocrites rule this society. Whoever "discovered" her should be called out for being a consumer of adult-material. But no - the scorn goes to the talent.
And why does someone have to "change"? Can't someone be an adult model and hold a so-called legitimate job on the side?
Post by: pedonbio on November 22, 2008, 08:21:33 PM
I also note that the school superintendent and the president of the school board expressed a desire to fire her. No porn for you guys, ever again!
Finally, some brave soul had to do the research to discover hundreds of Google entries for "Crystal Gunns". Then that brave soul had to check those sites, just to make sure. It must have taken HOURS of work!
Post by: TheZookie007 on November 22, 2008, 09:22:08 PM
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The Vineland Board of Education president is A Big Fat Idiot. Was she conducting orgies in the classroom? Was she coming to school in G-strings, or topless? Was she pimping? No? Then WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU BOTHERED WITH WHAT SHE USED TO DO FOR A LIVING????
Why stop there? When I was in high school, our music teacher used to moonlight in the summers as a roadie for the Grateful Dead. Should my high school have canned him?
This is absurd. I hope she sues the pants off them for harassment. And before you ask: if my kid was in that school district and I heard that one of the teacher's aides used to be (operative phrase being "USED to be") in the business of making videos of her extremely large bust, I wouldn't bat an eye. Truly. And not just because I probably would have been a consumer of those videos, but because IT IS NOT RELEVANT and does NOT impact on the quality of her current job performance.
Post by: Angelus on November 22, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
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Oooo, way to go for the newspaper to out Crystal Gunns like that, because she was such a bad bad role model for these [censored] who probably never even had access to her work in another life.
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The Vineland Board of Education president is A Big Fat Idiot. Was she conducting orgies in the classroom? Was she coming to school in G-strings, or topless? Was she pimping? No? Then WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU BOTHERED WITH WHAT SHE USED TO DO FOR A LIVING????
Why stop there? When I was in high school, our music teacher used to moonlight in the summers as a roadie for the Grateful Dead. Should my high school have canned him?
This is absurd. I hope she sues the pants off them for harassment. And before you ask: if my kid was in that school district and I heard that one of the teacher's aides used to be (operative phrase being "USED to be") in the business of making videos of her extremely large bust, I wouldn't bat an eye. Truly. And not just because I probably would have been a consumer of those videos, but because IT IS NOT RELEVANT and does NOT impact on the quality of her current job performance.
I can see that you're very passionate about this issue. But stop acting like Crystal is an innocent angel. If Crystal was in any other line of work, I could see the issue and I'd probably be on your side. But she is working with other people's offspring in an educational setting. And people like that are held at a higher accountability, like it or not.
Comparing your music teacher being a roadie for the Grateful Dead to this is apples and oranges. Being a roadie - especially when you're a music teacher - gives you real life applications to being a music teacher.
To be honest, if I was a parent, and for all you know, I might be - I would feel very uncomfortable with an honest to god adult entertainer working closely with my offspring. Granted, what Crystal's done is very tame as opposed to, say Ava Devine - but the parents of the offspring involved aren't going to research her body of work to see what the deal is.
You can't mix a porn career and working with other people's offspring. It just doesn't work.
Post by: Angelus on November 22, 2008, 10:25:53 PM
That's the problem; Crystal was still running a member's site and working with offspring. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
She may have retired as an active on-video performer, but if she was still making money as a porn-star, that could be a major conflict of interest.
Her bringing Obama into this was weak, especially getting her facts wrong; Obama admitted using coke, not crack, and deflecting blame on other people's misdeeds makes her look worse.
Get a lawyer, and shut up.
Post by: rtpoe on November 22, 2008, 10:36:36 PM
Sheesh.
I'm sure many of us have things in our past we'd like to keep buried. Hell, technically we morphers and authors work in the Adult Entertainment field. Shall we be treated like ch1ld molesters too?
Post by: Angelus on November 22, 2008, 10:39:10 PM
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So, once you work in the Adult Entertainment industry, you can't go near k1ds ever again?
Sheesh.
I'm sure many of us have things in our past we'd like to keep buried. Hell, technically we morphers and authors work in the Adult Entertainment field. Shall we be treated like ch1ld molesters too?
She was still "active". That may be the problem. It's one thing to leave the business, it's another thing to still have an active website that accepts memberships.
Post by: Real on November 22, 2008, 11:18:25 PM
Post by: gmantwo on November 22, 2008, 11:41:28 PM
Post by: CrazyFrankie on November 23, 2008, 12:09:33 AM
Post by: Angelus on November 23, 2008, 12:23:26 AM
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gmantwo your questions are right on, what is a greater threat in our schools? My mother and I work in the education field and violence is what concerns me more in schools then worrying about someone who shows her boobs. I worry everyday that my niece and nephew, I'm helping raising them, whenever they go to school I pray that they are safe and that they do well in school. I don't get why parents are making a big deal about someone who used to work in the adult industry, instead of violence and bullying which should be dealt with and addressed more in public schools. Pure paranoia!
Violence in schools is student-on-student, something completely different than the people who you are relying on to guide, teach, and inspire your offspring.
Again, it's an oranges to apples comparison.
I understand this can be seen as a witchhunt, but I also understand where the parents are coming from. Crystal still keeping her site up and accepting memberships shows extremely bad judgment for someone who wants to work with young people.
Post by: Angelus on November 23, 2008, 12:26:36 AM
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Not sure if she's a union member, but there's no way they can fire her for doing something that is perfectly legal. I'm surprised someone who frequents this site finds that a like-minded person would be unfit to work with youth. Why, exactly? So she showed her boobs on video and the internet; why is that grounds for dismissal? Why is our society so hung up on sex and nudity? Would she be in the same trouble if she had done horror films which depicted torture and violence? Doubt it--but which is the greater threat to our schools?
She's probably not union, but teacher contracts have morality clauses.
People who work in educational facilities have to hold themselves to higher moral standards than Joe Sixpack. It's always been that way.
Post by: TheZookie007 on November 23, 2008, 12:34:12 AM
Quote:It also probably exposed him to sex, drugs and rock-and-roll. Only the last of those three is a "real life application" for being a music teacher. It's not apples to oranges.
Angelus: I can see that you're very passionate about this issue. But stop acting like Crystal is an innocent angel. If Crystal was in any other line of work, I could see the issue and I'd probably be on your side. But she is working with other people's offspring in an educational setting. And people like that are held at a higher accountability, like it or not.
Comparing your music teacher being a roadie for the Grateful Dead to this is apples and oranges. Being a roadie - especially when you're a music teacher - gives you real life applications to being a music teacher.
Quote:How old are these k_ds, anyway? Did anyone ever complain that she was doing her work in a less-than-optimal way before she was outed? From the testimony in that article, the answer is no; her past has not negatively impacted her ability to do her appointed job.
To be honest, if I was a parent, and for all you know, I might be - I would feel very uncomfortable with an honest to god adult entertainer working closely with my offspring.
Quote:Well, SOMEONE obviously did the research, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Granted, what Crystal's done is very tame as opposed to, say Ava Devine - but the parents of the offspring involved aren't going to research her body of work to see what the deal is.
The fact that her site is up is no guarantee that she is still providing content for it -- look at the many many SCORE websites for women whose careers have long since ended as examples. And do you not remember the story of the Playmate who was a high schooler's prom date a few years ago? What's the diff, really?
Yes, I'm pretty passionate about this, because I thought that this country was one that was all about giving people second chances. What great crime did Crystal actually commit that these people are hounding her out of town?
Post by: Angelus on November 23, 2008, 12:52:45 AM
You are avoiding the one key issue that I am hammering here: teachers and educational workers are held to a higher morality standard.
Houston being a kid's prom date is way different than this. First of all, the [censored] are much, much older. Secondly, Houston was not a paid employee of the school district.
Crystal's website was her own personal website, not some Score-run site that is promoting someone long after she left the business. It was Crystal's site promoting her as an adult entertainer that she was making money off of.
We're going to agree to disagree, but I think what it boils down to is that teachers are held to a higher standard than regular people, her website was still up, and Crystal should not be talking to the press.
Post by: TheZookie007 on November 23, 2008, 12:59:24 AM
Post by: Angelus on November 23, 2008, 01:01:43 AM
Crystal hasn't been retired for five years. She hasn't even been retired for three.
Crystal appeared at Glamourcon 41 with Chelsea last year.
So her claim - that was listed in the article - that she said she was out of the business for FIVE years - is very, very false.
Post by: Angelus on November 23, 2008, 01:02:38 AM
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I agree that she should probably have pled the Fifth, but the whole morality thing is moot since she was not pushing her private life on her charges.
If she's still got the tits, I would say the evidence is right in front of their faces.
The morality thing is NOT moot. If she had been picked up on a DUI outside of school hours, the same kind of pressure would be there because it makes her a bad role model for young people once it gets out.
And being in porn isn't as bad as DUI, she still has to live her life to a higher moral standard which she wasn't doing. She was still semi-active in adult entertainment and trying to work with young people at the same time.
Post by: Chucky- on November 23, 2008, 07:22:58 AM
Post by: Real on November 23, 2008, 09:46:28 AM
then she decided to lie about it and call obama a crackhead? that sadly is more character revealing than anything else. its a blow for performers who might want to responsibly follow in her footsteps.
off topic a bit but kind of odd timing considering the situation, literally 20 minutes ago im scouring the nets for pictures of the milf host of the kymarp body shaper infomercial and found the reform story of another julia parker...who many of us know as candy cottton.
http://www.artsci.washington.edu/news/Autumn06/JuliaParker.htm
i seen her get nutted on by 80 dudes in one sitting, now she's funding an annual UW philosophy award. and that was a minute ago now...
Post by: GALVATRON on November 23, 2008, 10:01:12 AM
There's only one solution to this.
Clhidren should only be taught by eunuchs.
And these eunuch's should be kept in solitary confinement during non-school hours, that way anything they may do, in their own personal free time, that may POSSIBLY offend ANYONE will be known only to themselves.
Or, I guess could everyone get home schooled. But, home schooled kdis are weird, and rightfully made fun of. Unless they are actors or performers, in which case the home schooling makes sense because they are doing the greater good by providing entertainment to the masses.
Post by: Bonecracker on November 23, 2008, 10:59:07 AM
Just to add your final solution. They should be taught by eunuchs who are sequestered in solitary confinement locked cells when not admitted to teach them in their classrooms.
Perhaps it is time for automated teachers, non-humans? Can you send some from your home planet, Mighty Galvatron?
Best regards,
Bone...
Post by: ChrisR1 on November 23, 2008, 11:04:21 AM
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Bonecracker said:Perhaps it is time for automated teachers, non-humans?
Future late-breaking story on your Local Fox Affilliate News: Robo-teachers decomissioned, parents outraged, after reports surfacing showing programmers once authored and ran several internet porn sites....
Post by: angeliqueAdict on November 23, 2008, 12:14:01 PM
Post by: Good_Grip on November 23, 2008, 02:50:59 PM
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You are avoiding the one key issue that I am hammering here: teachers and educational workers are held to a higher morality standard.
Who's morality are we talking about here. If she wasn't actively promoting herself as an adult performer to the students, I don't see the problem.
This reminds me of a routine by Lenny Bruce: There is a gay teacher in a school. Student come home one day and the parents asK "What did you learn in school today?" The student says "We had one hour of math, one hour of English and one hour learning about blowjobs".
Give me a break people. It's the same old puritanical crap that has been going on in the country forever.
Post by: pedonbio on November 23, 2008, 09:15:08 PM
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[Real said:
off topic a bit but kind of odd timing considering the situation, literally 20 minutes ago im scouring the nets for pictures of the milf host of the kymarp body shaper infomercial and found the reform story of another julia parker...who many of us know as candy cottton.
http://www.artsci.washington.edu/news/Autumn06/JuliaParker.htm
i seen her get nutted on by 80 dudes in one sitting, now she's funding an annual UW philosophy award. and that was a minute ago now...
*SIGH* Did you happen to go to the UW? I've always admired their policy about stuff like this. Two years ago one of the fundie preachers around town went public with his demand (made after studying hours of porn) that several students were making porn movies in their dorms and marketing them commercially. The UW administration announced that it would do nothing. End of "scandal".
Post by: gmantwo on November 23, 2008, 10:48:29 PM
Post by: wabbitslayer on November 24, 2008, 06:35:17 AM
Post by: derf79 on November 24, 2008, 07:13:36 AM
Morality my ass. None of these parents have never been naked in front of someone else and I'm sure they ALL waited until they were married to have sex. Right?
Sheesh. What a load of crap this is.
Post by: MasterDragonfly on November 24, 2008, 05:43:30 PM
Lesson learned: If you're going to get into porn, wear a wig and a mask, and go by a pseudonym. This way, you can always fall back on a career teaching k1ds later in life.
Post by: Angelus on November 24, 2008, 06:22:44 PM
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It's starting to sound that morality clauses focus only on what is publicly known. Meaning, you could be Mr and Mrs Freaky Deaky at home with a dedicated BDSM room in your basement, and so long as it doesn't become public knowledge, you can be a teacher.
Lesson learned: If you're going to get into porn, wear a wig and a mask, and go by a pseudonym. This way, you can always fall back on a career teaching k1ds later in life.
Exactly. MD is showing my point. Morality in private is one thing. Morality in public is another thing. In your own house, out of the public eye, you can do whatever you want.
A lot of people in this thread are taking the hard stand because of who Crystal is. But the young people involved aren't YOUR offspring, and the parents and the school board have a right to raise a fuss over who is teaching and watching them.
Being a school board member is an elected position. If Crystal was outed and they didn't do anything about it, you have parents - and voters - to answer to.
Post by: zeo on November 24, 2008, 11:22:42 PM
Now as far as a threat to children, I really couldn't care less about some lunch lady that has a second job showing off her breasts. The far more important issue is the various conditioning and dumbing down that is done in the schools, not some lunch lady's other job.
Post by: Swill on November 25, 2008, 03:05:39 AM
She definitely shouldn't have lied about her recent career. In fact, her first boy/girl scene (handjob in Tits & Tugs), was likely filmed within the last 18 months.
Post by: ILikeBoobies on November 25, 2008, 04:07:42 AM
Seriously though. If her contract has a "morality clause" then I guess that's that. Obviously I'm in agreement with a lot of people here that there's nothing immoral about it, as long she isn't getting naked in the school or something.
I guess this is an important cautionary tale; a lot of women should probably consider the lifelong consequences of working in the adult industry if they ever intend to have a family, be around other families, or leave the house. (In a similar vein, wasn't there some sort of issue a few years ago where the ideepthroat couple were "outed" by their local newspaper?) It's unfortunate.
Post by: pedonbio on November 25, 2008, 10:43:29 AM
There is no contractual "morals clause".
Moreover, I don't think she's lying about anything. I say, for example, that I was in the business from 1973 to 1982. That was when I was doing almost nothing but sex industry work. Last week I consulted with a local club owner, and next week I'm seeing a client about some escorting issues. But if you asked me, I'd say I've been out of the business since 1982.
Post by: Real on November 25, 2008, 10:57:37 AM
she gonna walk by the slide tower one day and not be able to resist the urge to start pole dancing in front of the children?
again, lying about it is the only thing she's done wrong. makes it seem like she thinks its shameful too...
Post by: pedonbio on November 25, 2008, 11:02:54 AM
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I've been reading this site for years and if I saw her on the street I wouldn't know who she was. Someone in that town studies porn so they can be 'outraged'.
Now as far as a threat to children, I really couldn't care less about some lunch lady that has a second job showing off her breasts. The far more important issue is the various conditioning and dumbing down that is done in the schools, not some lunch lady's other job.
Zeo, this stuff reminds me of a recent escapade of one of my local police agencies-- 36 hours of "undercover" police work to get a misdemeanor license violation charge. The sad part is that four cops had to hang around a tittie show for nine hours to spot a single violation.
Post by: Harvey_Birdman on November 25, 2008, 02:14:45 PM
If I can offer an educator's perspective though... students hate some teachers but IDOLIZE others. That is possibly the parents' fear...that impressionable female students would LIKE Crystal and somehow see her as setting an example to follow.
The flaw here is that Crystal never attempted to let them know of her past. But, now that it's known, well...you can't put that genie back in the bottle. Now you would have parents claiming that they don't want their children thinking that you can find "decent" employment after a life in the adult entertainment industry (even though those parents' actions make it a self-fulfilling prophecy) and so it's okay to do it when you're younger like "cool" teacher-aide Ms. Crystal.
Should people be more enlightened and not so puritanical? Probably. But do parents have the right to be very protective of their [censored]? Yep. As an attorney, I am proud we have laws that technically protect Crystal in this situation (if her lying doesn't cost her). But I can also say that when a school wants to get rid of someone, they will find a way. So I suspect she will move on to something or somewhere else eventually.
My two cents anyway... I doubt the CNN piece will spend much time on Crystal's side of the argument.
On the upside, maybe she'll get back into the biz...and we get to see more of her fantastic boobs! (just kidding...my heart actually goes out to her in this situation).
Post by: Mercerwatch on November 25, 2008, 02:51:12 PM
Post by: BarneyFife on November 25, 2008, 03:08:41 PM
Post by: zeo on November 25, 2008, 07:44:48 PM
Post by: oogieboogie on November 25, 2008, 07:54:06 PM
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on the 'lie' it could all come down to interpretation. They are calling her a 'porn star' and if she hasn't done a porn movie in 5 years which is what is typically associated with the term, then that could be all there is to it. The media often gets the details very screwed up.
The Media screw up the details? Never, no way
Post by: ILikeBoobies on November 25, 2008, 10:11:21 PM
Post by: gmantwo on November 25, 2008, 11:43:26 PM
I'm so old, I remember when CNN featured actual news.
Post by: TheZookie007 on November 26, 2008, 12:23:16 AM
Quote:Except for the "wouldn't know her if she passed me on the street" bit, this is exactly what I mean. It's hypocrisy for someone to say "This porn star is a teacher's aide, run her out of town" since the next question should be "Oh yeah? And how come you know she was in porn, hmmmm?"
zeo: I've been reading this site for years and if I saw her on the street I wouldn't know who she was. Someone in that town studies porn so they can be 'outraged'.
Quote:Again, exactly the point. Unless she is giving the young'uns blowjobs during recess, what's the beef?
Now as far as a threat to children, I really couldn't care less about some lunch lady that has a second job showing off her breasts. The far more important issue is the various conditioning and dumbing down that is done in the schools, not some lunch lady's other job.
Post by: TheZookie007 on November 26, 2008, 12:32:55 AM
Quote:Oh, please. I was an educator as well. I've taught at all levels, from elementary right on up to graduate school, and of course I was a student as well. No matter how much I "idolized" my teachers, my parents raised me to know the difference between right and wrong, so I would never blindly "emulate" any of them. Besides, how old are these pupils in the first place? This is an elementary school, no? Any third-graders trying to be topless dancers in that school? I don't think that's gonna happen. This fear is simply not grounded in reality.
Harvey_Birdman: If I can offer an educator's perspective though... students hate some teachers but IDOLIZE others. That is possibly the parents' fear...that impressionable female students would LIKE Crystal and somehow see her as setting an example to follow.
Quote:Maybe she didn't tell them about her past because it is not germane to her ability to do the present job. Also, it is none of their goddamn business. Unless she signed some "full disclosure" document, in which case all bets are off.
The flaw here is that Crystal never attempted to let them know of her past. But, now that it's known, well...you can't put that genie back in the bottle.
Quote:Sad but true. She would have to move now that the electronic lynch mob has gathered 'round outside her door. As a parent, I'd be much more worried that some crazy would show up in my k_d's school with a shottie than that some teacher's aide who used to take topless pictures for a living was in my k_d's school, if I have done my job as a parent right, at least. And maybe that's the REAL reason why they're trying to hound her out of town, they brought up offspring that they used the TV as a babysitter for instead of actively parenting them. By raising a ruckus over Crystal, they can fool themselves into thinking that they are acting parental. Please.
Should people be more enlightened and not so puritanical? Probably. But do parents have the right to be very protective of their k_ds? Yep. As an attorney, I am proud we have laws that technically protect Crystal in this situation (if her lying doesn't cost her). But I can also say that when a school wants to get rid of someone, they will find a way. So I suspect she will move on to something or somewhere else eventually.
Post by: TheZookie007 on November 26, 2008, 12:43:49 AM
Quote:I see. So I guess any big-titted teacher is also shoving evidence of a exotic dancer past in people's faces. Please.
me: I agree that she should probably have pled the Fifth, but the whole morality thing is moot since she was not pushing her private life on her charges.
Angelus: If she's still got the tits, I would say the evidence is right in front of their faces.
Post by: derf79 on November 26, 2008, 08:54:40 AM
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zeo said:
on the 'lie' it could all come down to interpretation. They are calling her a 'porn star' and if she hasn't done a porn movie in 5 years which is what is typically associated with the term, then that could be all there is to it. The media often gets the details very screwed up.
Technically, showing ones nipples on camera constitutes pornography. We refer to it as "soft-core" porn but it can be named pornography...
And I believe that she is a star with her numerous magazine covers, Expo showings, tv appearances...
So in all actuality she is a soft-core pornography starlet, or "porn star" for short.
The news media is still evil and destroying this country...so Im not taking sides. Just explaining the semantics involved.
Post by: zeo on November 26, 2008, 05:36:50 PM
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derf79 said:
Technically, showing ones nipples on camera constitutes pornography. We refer to it as "soft-core" porn but it can be named pornography...
Only in nations like the US and those following Islamic rule I think. Few others have problems with nipples.
Seemingly in the rest of the world exposing a nipple on camera means absolutely nothing.
that whole 'we' thing I can't do... the whole group think of it is just creepy to me.
Post by: zappfra on November 26, 2008, 09:58:43 PM
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TheZookie007 said:Quote:I see. So I guess any big-titted teacher is also shoving evidence of a exotic dancer past in people's faces. Please.
me: I agree that she should probably have pled the Fifth, but the whole morality thing is moot since she was not pushing her private life on her charges.
Angelus: If she's still got the tits, I would say the evidence is right in front of their faces.
Kudos to you "Zookie" coming back with some good arguments against some who are coming across as so Self Righteous.
Post by: TheZookie007 on November 27, 2008, 09:30:07 PM
Quote:Well, that's mainly because saying that if she still has the big boobs (or, indeed, has big boobs at all), then that is grounds enough for raising a ruckus, since she is shoving the "evidence" of her hell-raisin' past (emphasis on past) in people's faces. Nope. That is called "blaming the victim", and in this case, it is neither fair nor right to do so. If she had had a past that included being a molester, that would be one thing (since of course you don't want that sort of person anywhere near a youngster for eight hours a day, 5 days a week) but...
Angelus: If she's still got the tits, I would say the evidence is right in front of their faces.
me: I see. So I guess any big-titted teacher is also shoving evidence of a exotic dancer past in people's faces. Please.
zappfra: Kudos to you "Zookie" coming back with some good arguments against some who are coming across as so Self Righteous.
Leave her alone, I say, unless and until you can provide evidence that she is corrupting (or in any way harming) her charges...and by some of her colleagues' testimony, she is doing nothing of the sort.
Post by: oat on November 27, 2008, 09:46:15 PM
Post by: Real on November 27, 2008, 10:42:16 PM
frankly there is a difference in the face between crystal 5 years ago and crystal now. the most recent stuff on her still up and running website is certainly much more recent with her boobs still very much intact...
Post by: Karma666 on November 27, 2008, 10:55:51 PM
It never ceases to amaze me, the hypocrisy displayed by our society as a whole. Nice how both the Board of Education President and Superintendent have been advised not to take action, yet they both feel Ms. T should be fired. FIRED FOR WHAT?!? For having participated in a legitimate business relationship with an industry whose sole commodity is entertainment geared towards adults? Makes me wonder how this information got to the school, and who it was that may have recognized her after the initial double-take. By the way, the welcome part to her site has been taken down. All that remains are the Members Access link and an email address. I respect Ms. T for what I think she was doing was serving her community the best way she knew how. I'll also go on record by saying I wouldn't think twice about watching her perform an exotic dance routine on video or live in a club. Does that make me a bad person?
Post by: brakblake on November 27, 2008, 11:04:47 PM
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I posted a similar reply about this topic on TaylorMadeClips.com's forum, and I felt compelled to express my personal feelings on the issue here.
It never ceases to amaze me, the hypocrisy displayed by our society as a whole. Nice how both the Board of Education President and Superintendent have been advised not to take action, yet they both feel Ms. T should be fired. FIRED FOR WHAT?!? For having participated in a legitimate business relationship with an industry whose sole commodity is entertainment geared towards adults? Makes me wonder how this information got to the school, and who it was that may have recognized her after the initial double-take. By the way, the welcome part to her site has been taken down. All that remains are the Members Access link and an email address. I respect Ms. T for what I think she was doing was serving her community the best way she know how. I'll also go on record by saying I wouldn't think twice about watching her perform an exotic dance routine on video or live in a club. Does that make me a bad person?
No, no its doent.....but it does show the violence inheriting the system!
Brak "Really loves Monty Python" Blake
Post by: zeo on November 28, 2008, 12:15:55 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me, the hypocrisy displayed by our society as a whole. Nice how both the Board of Education President and Superintendent have been advised not to take action, yet they both feel Ms. T should be fired. FIRED FOR WHAT?!? For having participated in a legitimate business relationship with an industry whose sole commodity is entertainment geared towards adults? Makes me wonder how this information got to the school, and who it was that may have recognized her after the initial double-take. By the way, the welcome part to her site has been taken down. All that remains are the Members Access link and an email address. I respect Ms. T for what I think she was doing was serving her community the best way she know how. I'll also go on record by saying I wouldn't think twice about watching her perform an exotic dance routine on video or live in a club. Does that make me a bad person?
This is a country that fills prisons and ruins people's lives because of their vices, that is their ingestion or otherwise partaking in certain substances. The same nation where the government has to approve drugs and many other medical devices and treatments. Now they openly talk of conscription. The government doesn't even consider us the owners of our bodies IMO.
The biggest hypocrisy is saying this is a free country. There is little free about it when we essentially have lost ownership of our own bodies to such a degree. It's a nation where petty control freaks enjoy wielding power to force people to live like they want. What do the elections boil down to? A debate about how people should be controlled. Never is it freedom vs. control, but what sort of controls and to what degree.
It's still a nation looking for witches and is into god-king worship (as per obama).
It is under this bigger picture that I find no surprise that they want to punish her for her other job. Ultimately it comes down to petty control and telling people what they can and cannot do. I really don't think people understand that freedom requires leaving other people alone and not caring about what they do so long as it doesn't harm others or at least harm them against their will. (people should be free to hurt themselves, that is if they own themselves)
Post by: oat on November 28, 2008, 10:32:43 PM
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i have to disagree. perhaps the top that just had slits over her cleavage made her look smaller but I have yet to see any photo evidence of a reduction.
frankly there is a difference in the face between crystal 5 years ago and crystal now. the most recent stuff on her still up and running website is certainly much more recent with her boobs still very much intact...
I agree with your analysis, it's hard to tell sometimes. On a side note, how much did Crystal's implants cost? I don't blame her for trying to earn some bucks on the side while serving the community. Some of those jobs don't pay particularly well!
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I distinctly remember seeing that pic in the Score mag I had purchased.
Still one of my favorite pics of Chelsea. I mean just look at the size difference..... and she is LARGER now!!!
Post by: Swill on July 20, 2015, 07:41:36 PM
I distinctly remember seeing that pic in the Score mag I had purchased.
Still one of my favorite pics of Chelsea. I mean just look at the size difference..... and she is LARGER now!!!
It's also a little funny that Crystal Storm was once arguably the biggest implanted model in the business. Chelsea really blew everyone else away back then.
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(Part 1 was Minka: See her thread for details)
(Part 2 was Tawny Peaks: See her thread for details)
(Part 3 was Wendy Whoppers: See her thread for details)
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(Part 5 was Tiffany Towers: See her thread for details)
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(Part 10 was Casey James: See her thread for details)
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(Part 20 was Chelsea Charms: See her thread for details)
(Part 21 was Summer Cummings: See her thread for details)
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(Part 23 was Teddi Barrett: See her thread for details)
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Great morph Captain. :)
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A really good size to start with ::).
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Score Blog Part 26: Crystal Gunns
Skin tight turtlenecks looking always so good on busty women ::).
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(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10007484.0;attach=1035729;image)
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Crystal makes a stand
(https://forum.bearchive.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10007484.0;attach=1035729;image)
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The times I saw her was during the 2000's and 2010's AVNs when she was at the SCORE booth or with Chelsea Charms as her escort then. :)
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