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Discussions => Real World Breast Enlargement Options / Information => Topic started by: MasterDragonfly on November 14, 2007, 05:52:49 PM
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Her surgery was this morning.

Details:
- Inamed model 68 (smooth, round) moderate profile 800cc saline implants overfilled to 1000cc each
- under the muscle
- breast fold incision
- vertical mastopexy
I don't *think* I've missed any noteworthy detail, but if so, ask away.
The worst part for her was the post-op nausea. Some serious, serious nausea.
But I got her hooked up with her anti-nausea meds as soon as we got home, and she conked out soon thereafter.
As soon as we were on the road, she felt they weren't big enough. 
Once she woke up, she wanted to take a better look at the new boobs. And it was the first time I got a good chance to check them out, too (apart from a glimpse as the nurse helped her into the car, and some VERY light touching). This time I was slightly more touchy-feely. I completely avoided anywhere there were stitches, but a good portion of the implants are (for now) up to her collarbones. I was warned by the nurse that they'd look pretty high up and boxy, and I'd seen enough surgery shows that my expectations were already set to expect something less than picture perfect boobs. No surpises there.
As far as pain level, she said on a scale of '1' to '10' it's a '3'. Compare that with the '9' she said she was feeling immediately after her LAP-band surgery. She even said that if she had to do it again tomorrow, she could do it, no problem. 
Yeah, they're very firm at the moment, but obviously the implant pocket is pretty damn tight around them at the moment. Check back in a few months (heck, even a month from now) and no doubt the description will be different. 
I'm sure this news is a bit of a surprise to many of you. We were keeping this pretty much on the down low. Didn't want to jinx anything and find ourselves posting "well we've had a delay", etc. Took a while to get our ducks in a row as I'm sure a few of you might remember, but a recent bit of good luck produced the opportunity for us to take.
Oh yeah. No doubt there will be request for pics.
I've taken a pic, I'll upload it shortly. But I'll tell you this, a pic just can't convey the 3-D essence of being there in person.
/me does the happy dance
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Magnificent! I hope she posts before too much longer, too; we haven't heard a peep from her since June. Looking forward!
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Congrats!! Sounds like everything went well. Liland? How was the experience?
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Congrats! Good to hear that everything went well.
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Congrats for you and her.
I am surprised she got her BA shortly after her lap-band surgery
I think she said is a dd naturally. Not to many women that big want to get a ba.
Maybe you said and I did not read it. what did she get overs or unders? I am sure they are going to look good
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ValNTx said:
Congrats!! Sounds like everything went well. Liland? How was the experience?
Yes, Dr Liland.
And except for the nausea (and from what factual snippets she's been able to give me), it seems it was a slam dunk.
I'll definitely have to get her to follow-up to this thread when she's feeling more, well, awake than she is now. 
In the meantime, pic attached. You can still see one of the LAP-band scars (horizontal mark, just to the right of center); the other LAP-band scars are outside of the frame of view of the pic. And those curved shadows where her collarbones should be? Yeah, that's the upper curve of the implants. 
Her LAP-band surgery was in July, so it wasn't *that* recent. And when we mentioned during the original consult that the LAP-band scars while doing quite good in terms of quality of scar, but were still healing up, he indicated that this is quite normal for LAP-band scars, and that breast augmentation scars should healp up MUCH more quickly.
Thanks to all for the support!
Copyright (c) MasterDragonfly
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I think she'll be pleased with Liland's work. Besides myself, several girls I know achieved great results with him.
Curious...did you find his bedside manner a little "odd" (for lack of a better word)? Also, when I first met Liland, I wasn't overly impressed with his office or even his selection of before/after photos, but having seen the results first hand of three girls that went to him, I knew he was the PS for me. Besides, he's one for the few PS's in Dallas that'll go very big.
Take care of the little lady and keep us informed of her recovery.
Val
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Awesome, it's always great to hear positive reinforcing feedback.

As far as bedside manner, hm... given that his office assistant raved about his bedside manner at the pre-op meeting, I thought it was just me. He's reasonably pleasant, certainly seems calm, professional and relaxed. He's just a bit... terse, I guess I would say? Never a hint of harshness in his words, ever.
We both liked his reception room. The motif seemed to be a cross between Chinese and Thai collectibles, which gave us the warm fuzzies.
The motif was carried on to the various exam rooms.
We had been to another Dallas area surgeon whose office was quite... office-like. Sterile. Aloof. I've been to family practice offices which were far warmer than the office of this unnamed other surgeon.
Then again, we'd been to yet another surgeon's practice at one time whose office was very nice. Lush furniture in the waiting room, the reception desk just sort of offers a friendly curve (and isn't behind a pane of glass). Even the exam room was ample, and cloth housecoats (instead of those paper exam covers) were the norm there.
The differences in offices could be all about location, though.
When Dr Liland's nurse went to take cherri's pre-op photos, the camera looked a little dated. And it was a Polaroid.
And I remember the pre/post pic binder; those pics looked somewhat grainy, but that could have been from the printer they came off. I had brought along my 10 megapixel Canon A640 and matched her pic for pic, and she said they were looking at doing some updates, including to his website.
Btw, cherri's up now. And she's very pleased with the work.
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Congratulation! please keep us posted with further development..
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Congrats and all the best for you both. A note for anyone with nausea after surgery. After my 1 and 2nd ba I just thought SEVERE nausea was the norm and really dreaded it more than the post op pain. At my last ba pre-op the doc asked about any concerns and I expressed my problem with nausea. He had the anestesiologist come in and consult with me. He said now that he knew my disposition to getting sick he would tailor the cocktail that put me under. He sure did the trick as this ba was pretty much nausea free.
Congrats again and I bet your looking forward to a month from now
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the Nausea may likely be cause by demerol, a common anestesia.
I've had this for several ops over the years, and dame near every time woke up to empty my already empty guts.
Oh, and congrats on the BA.
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Interesting point on the demerol, and also the custom cocktail.
What's also possibly worth noting is after she had her LAP-band surgery, she didn't experience any nausea at all. She was in a lot of pain back then, but no noteworthy nausea (that she can recall, anyway). I do recall it took her a while to come around after that surgery, whereas she seemed pretty alert after yesterday's surgery.
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Outstanding news MDF. I'm glad to hear everything went so well! Lots of pampering to come for her, I'm sure.
Q
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Allow me to offer my sincerest contrifibularities.
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Whooo-Hoooo! I say again; WHOO-Hooo!
(Remember, one of the best parts of getting new boobs is taking them SHOPPING!)
All together now: SHOPPING! SHOPPING! SHOPPING! SHOPPING!
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Interestingly, she's not a huge fan of shopping. Certainly not shopping for the sake of shopping. She's very un-chick-like that way. She gets *really* irritated standing in lines, and generally hates the whole shopping experience. If she needs to get something, she'll put it off until she can't put it off any longer.

But me? Yeah, I'm keen to get her some new stuff. She would probably find the shopping experience more tolerable with me there, although the sprint would likely be brief.
And now for this morning's update.
Yesterday afternoon/evening was more uncomfy for her. Not entirely unexpected, but a little surprising, given how well she did the first night. Her biggest complaint had to do with her shoulders being pulled forwards (no doubt to the taut tissues in front) and her trying to seek relief. Ultimately she took me up on my offer to massage her back and shoulders, although we had to do it from the seated position, for obvious reasons.
She went to bed early, like around 9pm. She got up around 11pm, checking with me to see whether it was okay to take another round of her meds (except for the muscle relaxer, which couldn't be taken before 1:30am). Then back to bed.
I **84** solidly, which was the first since before the surgery. Too much excitement, I guess. 
But she told me this morning that around 3am she wasn't very comfy, so she got up and set herself up in a chair we have in the bedroom. She took the opportunity to take her muscle relaxer. The chair doesn't have a high back; she said she **84** better, except for not having proper neck support. This need to sit almost sitting up seems to be a common theme, post-op. I don't know whether it's due to the weight of the implants on the chest (vs letting gravity pull them downwards), or what. I'd ask her, but she's resting at the moment.
She also didn't want to put on her post-op bra this morning. She said she came to realize that the pressure (towards her centerline) on the lateral aspect of her breasts was the cause of a lot of her discomfort late yesterday, so she's going to give that a miss today. I'm sure as things get more comfy for her, she'll get back into that bra.
Oh, and we've both noticed that her implants seem to have dropped an inch or two already.
The first night in bed, she turned her head at one point and was amused by the fact that her chin bumped into the top of her implant. She realized today she can no longer do that. The tops of the implants do appear to not be quite so high, and the lower aspect of her breasts do seem a bit fuller. I don't know about you folks, but I find this stuff fascinating. 
She took me up on the offer to help her out of bed this morning. Which is interesting, because she didn't wake me up to help her out of bed at 3am; surely that had to be difficult to manage, especially when feeling underslept.
She's also managed to put on a button-up shirt, track jacket and light winter jacket (it's been a bit nippy here lately -- pun intended) without assistance, albeit slowly. She can also take her shoes off, although she did let me help her put her socks and shoes on. I'm amazed that she's not asking me to help her more, but I'm guessing she's just trying to regain her independence with regards to the basic things we take for granted.
Right now she's got the TV on her usual morning show, she's got her wedge pillow positioned vertically behind her on the couch (she's reclined at about 30 to 45 degrees from horizontal) with a blanket covering her. She appears to be asleep, although the last time I went to the kitchen she suddenly came to life, reminding me not to jump in the shower without her (I'll need to wash her hair and... whatever else she wants washing
not to mention gently towel dry her), but I was just going to get my first espresso of the day.
I'll need to snag more pics today. Actually, I should have a few from yesterday, which I'll see about posting today.
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Try adding pillow(s) under her knees. It takes pressure off of the lower back and reduces pressure points on her butt!

Wonderful for you two!
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Master, that is a nice thing you have a wife willing to do a BA
You have an Guess what size she will be
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A crude guess? After the dust settles, the swelling goes down and the implants drop?
38H.
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Congrats to the both of you.
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I'd also like to echo the congratulations to you two. Best of luck!
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Hello one and all.
Apologies if I sound confused or repeat myself. I'm on meds so that's my excuse. 
Things are progressing slowly but surely. I don't have any pain per se, with the exception of when I try to get up from a lying position. There's tightness and discomfort more than anything else. There's bruising to the sides where my pecs are. I just noticed that this morning. The pressure I felt on the top of my breasts near my collar bone has dropped a little today, so I'm guessing gravity is assisting in having them fall into place.
Last night I **84** sitting up on the couch with my legs resting on a stool. This gave me a pretty decent **82**. I was pleasantly surprised by that. It also allowed me to rest my arms on a couple of pillow each side to keep my arms elevated. This kept them from resting on my pecs where the swelling is that I mentioned.
As for arm mobility, I have a lot more in my right than my left. I can easily touch the top of my head with my right hand but can't get my left up there without feeling some pain in my left pec.
It's hard work to get my posture right. Dropping my shoulders down and back takes a lot of effort and it's not long before I notice that I'm subconsciously slouching over again.
We bought F and H cup bras in preparation for these boobs, but I don't think there's any way I'll be able to fit into the Fs. I was wearing the H on Thursday and that was a much better fit where the cups were concerned, but the bandeau was really uncomfortable. It's a 38 and fit nicely pre-op, but I think with the extra swelling in my pec area it's the reason I can't get the clasps anywhere near one another. So right now I'm bra-free. MD is out on a course today and mentioned he'd try to pick up some elastic bandaging that we can perhaps wrap around me to give me some support and stability there until I can get into a bra comfortably.
The day of the surgery after waking up here at home I felt great. Yesterday was a little more uncomfortable for me. I just couldn't seem to find a position to sit or lie in that helped me. But thanks to reman's advice on the pillows under my knees and thinking it'd probably help with my arms/pecs as well, I felt a lot better.
I'm hoping to be able to come off my pain meds today. They help me a lot with the discomfort, but they also put me to **82** or make my head spin when I'm awake. We'll just have to wait and see.
Well that's about it from me today. Just wanted to pop in myself and give you an update. Thank you all for your kind words and best wishes. They were very much appreciated.
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Go take care of yourself, and thank you for checking in, it had been a while.
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CC this is what you said in one of my boards a while back,
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I've been fortunate enough to have some practice runs beforehand. I have a pair of 800cc prostheses that I've worn out on occasions. They've stopped conversations, quietened rooms when I've walked in and been the centre of attention at times. They're certainly a confidence booster and I'm looking forward to the day I get my brand new boobies.
Now you do not have to wear the prostheses any more...but on the other hand you can take that 800cc and put that in again. Are the breasts senitative, most docs recommend a few weeks before you can have sex.
I would love to find someone who wants or have modified themselves more than average size.
I think you did it you wanted your chest the size of your heart
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Heh, well they're sensitive to pain.

I'm not sure what you're looking to hear at this point. She's taking prescription meds, she's uncomfortable from things healing and shifting into new and desireable positions. Not really the time to be trying to get amorous, I don't think. 
Last we checked, her nipples didn't have any sensation at all. Nothing to be alarmed about, as things are still a long way from fully healed.
Yeah, she could stuff her bra with the 800cc prostheses, but... we'd need to find the right bra for that, and at this point, we don't have the right bra for the odd shape her breasts are now. It woulr probably be a REALLY bad idea trying to stuff the prostheses into her current 40H, pressing up against her sutures and all.
Once things have settled, we'll be in a position to verify her bra size, and *then* consider stuffing the bra with the prostheses. And that would probably require a new bra, as her currently new 38H/40H bras are quite snug (and as cherri mentioned, the 38H can't even be closed yet, although the bandeau was a good snug fit pre-op).
Bleh. I'm exhausted from today, and I haven't had a full night's **82** since before cherri's surgery.
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I take it C_C wants to be bigger than she will be now. What is the max she can get her implants overfilled too. She wanting to be the Size of Beshine?
You are a pretty supportive guy for her
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The answer to overfilling any saline implant is "it depends".
You can overfill an implant to significantly more than the rated size. Just ask Antoinette.
Then there's the question as to what the manufacturer would be willing to warranty. I've heard "up to 20% overfill", I've heard "more than 20% if the surgeon deems it necessary", so I'm not really crystal clear on that.
But again, if manufacturer's warranty (or lack thereof) isn't an issue, then you can go overfill-crazy.
The problem then becomes finding a surgeon to overfill them.
Now in cherri's case, these are 800cc implants overfilled to 1000cc. That's slightly more than 20% overfill. And for these implants, it looks like these will never get overfilled again. Of course, never say never, anything is possible, but from where I'm sitting now, THESE specific implants will not be overfilled any more than they currently are.
That's not to say that she won't go back for more someday.
She did the rice test ages ago with 2000cc of rice, and she was pretty pleased with the look. But the rice test is a crude approximation of what actual implanted breasts would look like with implants at that volume.
She indicated the afternoon of the surgery that they didn't look nearly big enough. Meaning she was quite keen to go bigger.
But that was then. Ask us again in 4 weeks. Then ask us again in 3 months.
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But that was then. Ask us again in 4 weeks. Then ask us again in 3 months.
these god damn keyboards don't have a fast forward button on them, i've been searching frantically...and nothing!
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Actually my keyboard does have one, but I think it's only useful when playing DVDs on the computer.
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Great news, MD and C_C! I'm glad to hear that everything went well with the surgery.
Here's wishing you a speedy recovery!
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Congrat. As you know I am looking to go for 1000cc and love to see how 1000cc would look like, would love to see more as she feel better. Can you share her before stats? As for **83** confort, I found using on bed reading pillow worked super, I can **82** with no back pain.
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lovefakeboobs, I'll try to answer your questions.
I never really HAD to wear the prostheses I just did on occasions for aesthetic reasons and to get an idea of what it would be like to carry 800ccs around for a period of time. My starting measurements were a somewhat empty DD. Stuffing my bra gave me the look I was wanting, but it's a long way from having the same kind of volume stuffed under my skin. You can't really get an idea of what effect it will have on your muscles and skin when they're simply placed on the outside. But yes, once everything has healed well I'll be curious to see what it would look like with the prostheses added to what I currently have now. 
Today I'm feeling a lot more lucid. The meds do a great job with helping me deal with pain and discomfort, however they knock me out and I'm **83** for a good period of the time.
I spent the last couple of nights **83** on the couch as it allowed me to keep upright and put cushions under my arms for support. However at 3am this morning I just wanted to lay horizontal, so I got up and took my meds and eased myself down as best I could. I conk out pretty quickly after the pain meds and woke this morning feeling good.
I've had to keep a written record of what meds I've taken and when as they have different time periods. The anti-biotic is every 12 hours, the anti-muscles spasm is every 8 and the pain and anti-nausea is every 4. It's impossible to keep those kinds of records in my head, so I wrote them all down. BTW, my writing is horrific at the moment. lol
Today I was able to shower on my own. YAY! MD is away on a course again today and I desperately wanted a shower but wasn't up for it when he was ready at 6am. :P The only area I could wash properly was my right armpit. It feels like I have a tennis ball under my left armpit and I just can't get the reach over there. I got the loofa and did as best as I could though.
I even managed to get a bra on today. It was one of the larger bandeau bras (42), so I was quite pleased with myself in that regard. I have deodorant in my left armpit but not in my right, so I'm only half smelly.
I have the ability to raise both my arms up or back (to fasten my bra clasps) but can't bring my hands together in front to wash them. So usually I'm bending over to do them both at once or turning to the side to get them done individually.
I have sensation in my nipples today. Not quite like I had prior to surgery, but I have feeling nonetheless. It's comparable to the feeling you would have if you touched your nose. It doesn't necessarily send tingles to your naughty bits, but you know your nose has been touched. That's kind of how it is today with my nipples.
The tightness has dropped a little. Yesterday it was really tight high up by my shoulders, today it's a little lower down so I guess the implants are slowly moving southward.
That shine you often get associated with really taught stretching has gone as well. They're still quite swollen, but don't feel quite as taut as they have been of late.
So I'm going to see how I go today without having to take pain meds. I took my last dose at 7:40am this morning and don't feel I need them so far. But believe me, I'm not the hero type that will go without them to show how tough I can be. If it starts to hurt, I'll be popping them. I'm hoping to stay lucid for the Cowboys (YAY) vs Redskins (BOO) game today. Feel free to boo me. I don't care. I gots boobies!!!! 
Oh, MD has more pics somewhere so when he gets around to it he'll be posting them. Right now my brain is on minimum life support and can't be bothered thinking about finding the camera and downloading pics off it to here.
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I'm late, but here's congratulations on the operation to both Cherri and MDF! You more than deserve this
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W00t!
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I've had to keep a written record of what meds I've taken and when as they have different time periods. The anti-biotic is every 12 hours, the anti-muscles spasm is every 8 and the pain and anti-nausea is every 4....
Antibiotics...humm....what are you taking and for how long. Might to take a little probiotics too. It could mess up your microfloia esp in your reproductive area. I wish I could find someone big that some day wants to be bigger. Most women do not really share that fetish with someone. I think I would be happy to find someone least with a d cup, on the other hand I would not turn away someone whose flat.
C_C You come along way
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Antibiotics...humm....what are you taking and for how long. Might to take a little probiotics too. It could mess up your microfloia esp in your reproductive area. I wish I could find someone big that some day wants to be bigger. Most women do not really share that fetish with someone. I think I would be happy to find someone least with a d cup, on the other hand I would not turn away someone whose flat.
She's taking what the plastic surgeon told her to take, and taking it for as long as he prescribed it.
She's taking the antibiotics as a prophylaxis. She's not taking them because she's ill, she's taking them to prevent a bug from getting a toehold during the critical phase of healing.
Neither of us are too concerned about it upsetting the delicate balance of microflora in her reproductive area because, well, we have no plans to get pregnant. Ever. EVER. And given that I had a vasectomy 9 years ago and have absolutely no interest in procreating again, I'd say that concerns regarding her ability to procreate are misplaced.
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Congratulations to you both! I'm so happy for you guys.
take care. I can't wait to see more pictures.
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Thanks!

And yeah, I need to get off my lazy butt and post more pics. Sorry about that, folks.
Yesterday was the one week post-op checkup. Doc said everything looked fine. He said that it would take 3 months for the implants to drop, then he added that in cherri's case it would likely take longer than that. We didn't ask, but I figured his addendum was due to the uncommonly large size of her implants.
He then showed her how to do the implant massage. This was different than anything I'd read about online. In the one implant massage article I recall reading, the breasts are supposed to be gently squeezed from the bottom (akin to squeezing a tube of toothpaste) to cause the implants to rise up. cherri's doc demonstrated more of an alternating hand massage, pressing somewhat side-to-side at/near the top, with an emphasis in a general downwards pressure. 5 mins per side, twice a day.
He suggested of course that maybe that could be my task, so I wanted to get his visual verification that I was doing it right, so I did my quick interpretation of his instructions, getting his corrections where necessary. And as soon as we got home, I did my duty. Err, massaging her implants.
Late yesterday she ended up going to the gym in our complex to do some time walking on the treadmill. When she got back, she was quite pleased. She had put the treadmill on a slight incline, and found the angle somehow caused her to stand up straighter. Or some such. She was essentially able to relieve herself of the discomfort in her shoulders and lower back. So yeah, she'll likely be doing that again on a regular basis.
Each day is a wee bit better than the day before. And we're keenly looking forward to 3 months from now.
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This pic was actually taken on the 16th. Should have posted this sooner.
I was inspired from my vantage point, so I grabbed the camera. 
Oh, and pay no attention to the bed-head. The meds gave her plenty of reason to close her eyes and lay her head down with a fair bit of frequency.
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Very nice vantage, you don't see that one too often (or at least I haven't) and it certainly gives a nice idea of their size.
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So today cherri noted that she's officially back to her pre-op weight.
That means that she's lost the 9 lbs she gained from the surgery. Some of that would have been swelling, IV fluids and the like, but of course 2000cc (1000cc per side) of saline would have been approximately 4.4 lbs of that amount.
Oh and last night she put on her old pre-op bra (38DD). It actually looked pretty good on her! She was VERY stoked at how she filled it out. I took a pic of it, so I'll try to get it up here later today.
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Wow. MD, and CC, from that prospective at her back those bums look huge. I do not think she will never look like an over abused barbie. With her hair style she looks like dawn withman (I think that is how you spell her last name)
Do people say anything when she goes out in the public. I think you are one the few guys on here who has a woman who wanted to be super abnormally large sized implants. I admire you both for that.
God bless
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Ah yes, Dawn Whitham, which I believe is the correct spelling (verified just now in Google). I was actually trying to remember her name the other day.
Nobody's said anything (yet) when we go out in public. Back when she was going out in public with the prostheses, she would definitely get heads turning. Still waiting for that to happen with the new boobs, but we're also still waiting for them to drop.
Bonus: today we noticed veinage! 
I know I promised a new pic recently. Still need to edit it before uploading it. If I don't do it today, don't expect anything before next weekend, as I'll be a little busy in the meantime.
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How is Cherri doing? Is she feeling any pain? I think it took me 4 weeks before the pain went away.
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Hi christina

I'm doing well now thanks. Am I feeling any pain? Hm. No not really. I would say it was more discomfort and tightness than pain. I have a high pain threshold, so that is probably a big reason for the limited pain.
Most often my discomfort will happen in the evening. Because the implants are still rather high, my bra is pressing on them and towards the top of my armpit. So I'll remove it at around 8 or 9pm and get some relief. I'll also feel the weight of them more as gravity pulls them down which is kinda cool. 
I'm able to **82** on my side a little more now. I was more of a face-down sleeper prior to surgery and I don't think I'll get back to that, but it's nice to be able to turn on my side and tuck my arm under my head and pillow. I don't like **83** on my back and the first week worth of night **83** was very restless in spite of the pain meds knocking me out. I wasn't comfortable. The wedge pillow did help a lot and it would have been a lot worse if I didn't have it, but it was frustrating having to stay in the same position and not be able to roll over. I spent a couple of nights on the couch, which I found a little more comfortable.
I've seen your pics and you look fantastic!
I even mentioned to MD how envious I was of yours. I probably had unreal expectations of what I'd see when I woke from surgery. They didn't look nearly as big as I thought they would. They're still very high and from the profile it just looks like I've got a pronounced chest with breasts kind of underneath it. Patience is a virtue I seldom possess and I'm in a hurry for them to drop from my chest to my breast. It'll happen, just not tomorrow like I want it to. I can tell they've made some down progress and that's encouraging.
I started back in the gym on the treadmill a week post-op at a slower pace and smaller incline than usual and it felt fantastic. I think it was getting back into good posture and raising my heart rate a little that helped. I think my surrounding muscles in my shoulders, neck and upper back were cramped because I was stooped over a lot. Last week I got permission from Dr Liland to start doing upper body exercises gently (without weights) like windmills and flys to stretch my arms out. I had a lot of discomfort down my inner arms and wanted to be able to stretch them out. That felt great too. It'll be good once I get back into a normal exercise routine. Especially getting into the pool again. I'm not allowed to submerge them for a month ( or is it 6 weeks? or 3 months?) I forget what he told me. My next check-up with him is just after Christmas, so I'll ask then.
I've been hounding MD with non-stop questions. We've been researching this for years and yet it seems I've not been paying attention a good deal of the time.
I guess the info was going in one ear and out the other because it didn't really relate to me. Now that it does and I ask him these questions he gives me that "Wha? You know this..." kind of look.
I think I just need to be able to complain and blahblahblah every once in a while about how they're not how they should be, and how they're not big enough, and how "this isn't what it's like on Dr 90210..." and all I want from him is to patronise me, smile, nod his head and pat me on mine. 
Thank you to everyone for your well wishes. It was very much appreciated.
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Do people say anything when she goes out in the public.
No. With the cooler weather they're usually covered up with sweaters and jackets. I'm not 100% comfortable wearing something more revealing and tighter yet because they're so high. Once they drop and the warmer weather comes back, I'm sure it'll be different. 
My son hasn't noticed either. But he didn't notice for 2 weeks when I changed my hair colour from black to red.
Guess he's not a boobman yet. We'll have to work on that....
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CC, How old is your son, are you going to post a pic high and tight,
you usally share your face
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AH! Been away TOO long! I missed this!
How are you doing Cherri? Better now I hope! The implants settling down and enough for you?
I hope not! Heh. MD must be pleased as a kangaroo shucking lima beans!
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CC, How old is your son, are you going to post a pic high and tight,
you usally share your face
My son is 9. MD has the high pics on his PC and he's away on business this week. As for face pics, you must have me mistaken with someone else. I've never posted a pic of my face on here.
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AH! Been away TOO long! I missed this!
How are you doing Cherri? Better now I hope! The implants settling down and enough for you?
I hope not! Heh. MD must be pleased as a kangaroo shucking lima beans!
ZODDIE!
This place just isn't the same without you. Well, it just isn't the same..... But I miss you lots! You're fun and I miss the fun we used to have here all the time.
*gives Zoddie a bronski and lets him out of his carseat for an hour*
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I wish to add my congratulations to the list. It seems like you're happy with how you ended up (even if its not as big as you hoped).
Was it you and MD who said you were planning an Australia trip sometime in the future? My minds a mess at the moment and can't remember who said what.
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Was it you and MD who said you were planning an Australia trip sometime in the future? My minds a mess at the moment and can't remember who said what.
Thanks Starscream. Yes it was us that mentioned it. Unfortunately each time we feel we're getting closer to being transfered down there, the carrot is moved just out of reach again. *sigh*
I'm homesick for Aussie. I miss the ocean. I miss the footie. I miss the bloody Aussie battler attitude and sense of humour. It's very...... not like that here.
I like Texas, but it's not HOME.
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I'm sure you'll get that carrot eventually and make it back down here... and when you do, we'll all go out **94**
remind you what a real beer is, you've probably been on that weak US stuff for too long. lol
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YAY! I get to play!

It's slightly different! We need more fun stuff around here; although this technical talk is fascinating I do believe that the one thing that would set you on your road to recovery is a healthy dose of Meerkats and pancakes. Not intravenous.....that would be far too messy.
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CC, we have not heard about the latest and greatest about your boobs, are you still at an H-I or have they dropped a little
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I've had a couple of health issues of late. One of them breast related, one not. I'm feeling a lot better today. I'm around 80% normal (whatever "normal" is). I know I said I'd post a pic, so I will. This one was taken a couple of weeks ago, between health issues.

Copyright for pic belongs to me.
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You look great Cherri!!!!
I wish you the best for your healing.
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Cherri, its hard to believe you are an H, 1200 cc's does not look that big on you. They look really good on you too.
Do people say anything when they see you with your H's 
I liked that pic MD took for the back could really see how far they projected out...I love the color of your black short hair in the pics
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Good to she you again and that you are healing well. I too was shocked to find that 800, 1000, and 1200cc really isn't as big as a lot of "small boob doctors" make them sound.
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Darn...go away for a while and miss it all! Just read your thread and wanted to say a hearty CONGRATULATIONS!!!

I wish I'd been here when you first got them so I could've recommended a FAB product for helping you to **82** upright. I had a miserable recovery myself, and was upright for 3 friggin' weeks. My husband, (BF at the time) ordered one of these for me and I truly don't know how the hell I could've **84** a wink w/o it...
www.bedlounge.com
Sorry I'm too late on that to help you, but thought I'd post for others researching surgery. It was awesome.
How are the lift incisions healing for you? I agree with one of the posts from MD about how those scars should heal much quicker and lighter than your lapband ones. I know my crease incision scars looked nearly invisible after about 6 months, whereas I have a scar on my thigh about an inch long that's STILL pink after a year and a half, so don't fret if yours are still pink..they WILL fade nicely
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Love the pix posted so far! You are so high still. I was too, have some stubborn pec muscles here
, which was mostly why my recovery was so painful. I have to say that you are going to gain a LOT of cupsize once those babies drop and fluff completely. You look like I did at first, and I was a 32DD immediately following surgery, but by the 6 month mark, once the pecs had relaxed and allowed the implants to fluff I was a full 32G. A lot of that volume still ABOVE your braline will move down INTO your bra, so if you're filling out an H cup now...holy hooters you're going to move up that alphabet and how!
(pic attached is to show how tight, compressed, and uber high mine were too. They don't look anything like that now, so expect lots of changes in the weeks/months ahead! I'm sure you know that already.)
ok..I'll stop rambling now
. Just get so excited for women that finally get to realize their breast enlargement dreams! 
Happy New Year to both of you!!!
~Cupcake xoxo
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(Cherri ... Cupcake ... suddenly I need a bib
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Druul "sometimes my name is a liability" Empire
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Much obliged for your feedback, Cupcake! It's reassuring to hear from someone who has "been there, done that" that the drop-and-fluff still has a way to go, still. Her right breast is definitely looking and feeling better, although her left is lagging somewhat. And I know the lagging isn't unusual.
On a related note, cherri's minor setback from about 12 days ago has revealed itself again today. She's not in pain, but we'll definitely be giving the doc a call today (or at least leaving a message with his answering service). Given that he indicated he'd be in town this holiday season, and also indicated that we should call if any concerns, we'll be doing just that.
Put another way, he tried to correct the issue, but there's still something going on (or more accurately, going on again) that we feel needs attention.
Here's hoping things are otherwise completely uneventful until at least the 26th.
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Update:
Called the doc's answering service yesterday. He called back pretty quickly. We gave him the rundown. He told us to be at his office 8am this morning, and he phoned in a prescription for her to take. Which we followed up on, and she took right away.
Went by his office this morning. It was good news and bad news.
First the bad news.
There was surgery. And the surgeon removed her left implant.
Now the good news.
The situation wasn't bad. There was no infected tissue. He cleaned away the protein buildup, put in a drain and closed her up. It definitely could have been worse, from what he described from past experiences.
More good news: All this, including the surgery 6 weeks from now (including the replacement implant) is all covered. No extra out-of-pocket expenses.
As he put it, she'll be inconvenienced for the next 6 weeks. She'll probably have to stick with baggy clothing, and maybe use one of the prostheses from time to time. Good thing it's not t-shirt weather. 
We go back in 2 days for a look-see, and the drain comes out at the end of the week.
So 'Joyful' is doing well. 'Triumphant' will be back in 6 weeks. 
She's resting in bed at the moment. Since it was light sedation, she's just feeling a little sleepy (in part due to not **83** well), and no nausea at all. While the incision under her left breast is of course tender, she says her arm hurts more (where she was given the anaesthesia).
While it would have been great if he could have waved a wand and made things right, I'd say we're all glad to have the root cause addressed, even if it means an added delay.
I need to head out to the pharmacy in a couple minutes and get a script filled for some pain meds. She's indicated she doesn't feel like she needs them at the moment, but that may change.
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Eeeeek! Well at least everyone is healthy! Best wishes in getting back to 100%. I guess 50% will do for the time being. Merry Christmas and a healty, happy 2008!

~Sandy.
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MD, how is she doing have not heard much after you said they took out the one implant and stuck her to a draining tube. If there was an infection did you get a gram stain
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MD, how is she doing have not heard much after you said they took out the one implant and stuck her to a draining tube. If there was an infection did you get a gram stain
I'm not sure what you mean by gram stain.
I'm doing okay as far as physical healing goes. Mentally things are tougher. It's depressing to have this set back, but I try to look on the positive side. Things felt "not right" for a couple of weeks prior to the removal. It made sense when my doc told me that it's typical for one side to hurt more than the other during the healing process. Still, it wasn't getting any better.....
While it's an unfortunate that things have happened like this, I know they could have been a lot worse. The infection could have gotten worse quickly, there could have been more "cruft" to remove, my natural breast tissue could have be seriously effected, I could have gone to the wrong medical centre and had them both removed as a standard practice.
On the positive side I was lucky that my surgeon was in town over the holidays and he dealt with me immediately and at no extra cost for having to call in an emergency surgery crew at relatively short notice. It's no party going under the knife on Christmas Eve and I felt guilty for having to interrupt the day of the people who had to attend me. 
Right now I liken myself to a before and after photo in one package. My left the before surgery and my right after surgery. It's not too noticeable when I'm out bundled up in winter sweaters and things, but I'm pretty self-conscious about it. I don't like to look at or touch it. In fact I think I became overly sensitive to any kind of touching at all. 
I make a really bad patient. I've become quite the bitch to live with. I'm moody, irritable, insensitive, overly-sensitive..... Think of PMS overload. Only worse.
It's tough at times to stay positive and if I didn't have such a wonderfully supportive husband it would make this tenfold worse.
I get to go back in 6 weeks and have a new one installed. I was very concerned over who covered the costs, especially after reading pjwantsbigger's experience. It took so long to prepare physically and financially to the point where I got my initial boob job that all I could see ahead was a wait of years until I could get to that same point again. But things are healing well and fingers crossed that this next go-around will be drama free.
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Hey you guys,
I'm sorry to hear so much has happened. It is unfortunate but like you said it could've been worse so thank goodness it didn't get to that point.
Cherri, I know this is emotionally draining on you and MDF and my heart goes out to you both. Hang in there and I hope everthing gets better.
Take care,
Christina
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This morning I made a call to Dr Liland's office to make appointment to get my other boob installed again. We went for a check-up Friday just gone and he said that everything was looking good and he was ready to go if I was ready to go. Mentally I was ready weeks ago. Physically I've been dealing with some minor issues related to my lap band. I got a fill in the beginning of Feb that was a little too tight. I wasn't able to keep food down and could barely get any fluids in. Night-time reflux was also a problem.
On Monday I managed to get some of the fill taken out and loosen things up in my band so that fluids go down fairly well now, although I'm still struggling with cold drinks for some reason. Food is limited, but that's the way it's meant to be. So I'm all set physically to go and get the girls evened up again.
*happy dance*
March 12 is my surgery date. I'm relieved and excited.
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Wonderful news! Great to hear that the "end" is nearing in your quest!
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*Derf brings the champagne*
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Even though that date is soon, I bet it feels so far away. Best wishes when the time to heal comes.
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Well, we hope your ok... Dr Liland is really good about follow up. I hope that your issue heals well and that you feel better soon.
Now I (Scooby) wish I hhad a lap band... I need to lose weight and cannot exercise due to hernaited disks in my lower back. I just recovered from hernia sugery for a navel I blew out. I wish it could be covered by insurance but technically I'm not heavy enough... And I feel and look like crap... Oh well..
Kitty is looking better every day... her new 1200's are settling in nicely and she loves the firmness and the fact that her nipples now point UP again!
Scoobert
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Oh yeah, she's doing great at the moment.
Back in December, once Dr Liland realized there was an issue, he was all over it. That continued with post-explantation checkups until about mid-January, at which point he indicated that things seemed to have settled down and to book an appointment to come back in about 6 weeks (which was last Friday's appointment), but to come in immediately if things go south again.
So yeah, she's in great shape. Just kinda antsy for having to wait so long.
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Good news for now and here's to even happier to come!
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The surgery was done today. Competely uneventful. cherri was quite upbeat and lucid after I picked her up from recovery. She said she was slightly nauseous afterwards, but a small sip of water seemed to quell that.
The nurse who came to get me told me that cherri kept looking down and making 'yay' noises. 
What's particularly interesting is that the discomfort is nowhere near what she felt back in November. A little tender for sure, but that's to be expected. She says her arm hurts more (where they put in the IV) than her left breast.
Obviously left doesn't match right at this point, given that her right has had almost 4 months to drop and her left hasn't. But no worries there. 
I'm sure I could provide a few more details, but I'm absolutely knackered. I had a terrible **82** last night due to some sort of airway congestion that I just couldn't shake. Then after cherri settled in at home I had to hit the road running (metaphorically speaking) doing things at work.
I've already asked her if she wanted to post something, but she said she's not quite up to putting together anything which requires thought. 
More details before too long.
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Hooray! Tell her to take it easy. We'll still be here...
Tugboat"second time's a charm"Cap!
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Wishing her all the best! Glad she came through ok.
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Consider continuing antibiotics for one week. Keflex 500mg 4x/day or Duriceff 500 to 1000 mg 2-3x/day would be good.
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Oh she's on antibiotics alright.
She was on Keflex last time. Or times, if you include the other stuff in December. Didn't seem to quell the infection.
She's on Ciprofloxacin (750mg twice daily) this time. Which is what she ultimately ended up on at some point after the Keflex didn't seem to be doing anything back in December.
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That is such great news to hear that she is doing well right now. Can't wait when more time passes and you can say that everything went perfectly and she is all healed and happy.
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Wonderful news! Best wishes!
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Once an infection gets a foothold around a foreign body, the antibiotic choice is pretty moot. Nothing is likely to eradicate the infection unless the foreign body is removed first. Ciprofloxin should be fine, but its benefit is a wider spectrum, not its minimum inhibitory concentrations against the staph.
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Happy happy, joy, joy! Happy happy, joy, joy! Happy happy, joy, joy! Happy happy, joy, joy! Happy happy, joy, joy! Happy happy, joy, joy! Happy happy, joy, joy! Happy happy, joy, joy!
Look! I'm hampsterdancing!
Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
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Once an infection gets a foothold around a foreign body, the antibiotic choice is pretty moot. Nothing is likely to eradicate the infection unless the foreign body is removed first. Ciprofloxin should be fine, but its benefit is a wider spectrum, not its minimum inhibitory concentrations against the staph.
I'm not quite sure what you suggest I/we do then. The surgery is already 2 days old, the prescription was a done deal like a week ago, and she's recovering quite nicely. Brilliantly so, I would even go so far as to say.
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Once an infection gets a foothold around a foreign body, the antibiotic choice is pretty moot. Nothing is likely to eradicate the infection unless the foreign body is removed first. Ciprofloxin should be fine, but its benefit is a wider spectrum, not its minimum inhibitory concentrations against the staph.
I'm not quite sure what you suggest I/we do then. The surgery is already 2 days old, the prescription was a done deal like a week ago, and she's recovering quite nicely. Brilliantly so, I would even go so far as to say.
I think it's fine that she stay with the Cipro, actually. It really should be good enough as a one week prophylaxis.
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The doc took her stitches out yesterday (2 weeks post-op).
For those who haven't been following the programme, the reason for the permanent stitches was to ensure there were no recurring issues like we saw previously.
Prognosis: excellent! 
Zero tenderness, the implant is really making rapid progress to the proper 'dropped' position.
Dang. And we still owe pics.
Well, they're at least out of the camera now. I don't think I have time right at the moment to do edits/uploads/posts.
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Second time's a charm...
Yay Cherri!
TugboatCap!
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MDF,
Great news. Please pass along my best wishes to her. I'm happy she's doing so well.
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Dang. And we still owe pics.
Well, they're at least out of the camera now. I don't think I have time right at the moment to do edits/uploads/posts.
Why, I oughta....

Glad things are going well with the redo!
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Dang. And we still owe pics.
Well, they're at least out of the camera now. I don't think I have time right at the moment to do edits/uploads/posts.
Why, I oughta....

Glad things are going well with the redo!
Unlock your car? I don't get it... 
Oh, you mean:
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Today cherri put on a top which I thought looked spectacular.
So, some pics. 
First one:
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Second one:
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Third one:
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Fourth one:
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Very nice! Thanks for sharing!
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THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER !!!
( Line from Animal House ).
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MD -- how do you make yourself leave the house???
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She's more than spectacular!!! Congraturations to her!!
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Awright!
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looking good cherri sweety, now we can hide some meerkats in there
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looking good cherri sweety, now we can hide some meerkats in there
Have you met my pet meerkat?
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wonderful! i love the double straps on that top! and of course what's in that top!! wow! mm, i like the tattoo also, thanks so much for posting!
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Today we were at a motorcycle accessories shop, checking out lighter, summer (breathable) jackets, the sort you'd get with proper body armour.
cherri saw one on special which was perhaps a bit too small.
She put it on, started zipping up the zipper, struggling to get it past her boobage, when POP! the zipper opened right up from the slider to the bottom stop.
Oops.
We spent the next 10-15 mins trying to fight with it to get it back down to the bottom again. During that struggle, one of the salespeople came over to see if he could help. Once apprised of the situation, he delicately tried to help, even suggesting that the zipper was a "self-healing zipper", then let me resume without his assistance. Gee, I wonder if he felt a bit uncomfy there. 
She decided it was too small, once free of the synthetic snare, cherri decided that, bargain sale price or not, it wasn't worth it. Clearly the zip was a bit too sensitive. 
Still, after that boobs-causes-zipper-to-go-POP moment, I thought I'd share.
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THANKS MDF, that was a wonderful story. Now where are the pictures? :-)
Warm regards,
Bone...
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Dang, good point. Had my cellphone with me, I could have taken a couple pics. The quality would have been crap, but still.
Next time, then.
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Today we were at a motorcycle accessories shop, checking out lighter, summer (breathable) jackets, the sort you'd get with proper body armour.
cherri saw one on special which was perhaps a bit too small.
She put it on, started zipping up the zipper, struggling to get it past her boobage, when POP! the zipper opened right up from the slider to the bottom stop.
Oops.
We spent the next 10-15 mins trying to fight with it to get it back down to the bottom again. During that struggle, one of the salespeople came over to see if he could help. Once apprised of the situation, he delicately tried to help, even suggesting that the zipper was a "self-healing zipper", then let me resume without his assistance. Gee, I wonder if he felt a bit uncomfy there. 
She decided it was too small, once free of the synthetic snare, cherri decided that, bargain sale price or not, it wasn't worth it. Clearly the zip was a bit too sensitive. 
Still, after that boobs-causes-zipper-to-go-POP moment, I thought I'd share.
First off let me say congrats on the new boobs!!!! I Loved reading the story. The boobs look AMAZING!!!
I too had a similar experiance trying on a strapless dress recently, the sales lady zipped the side zipper up and while trying to flatten my boobs down enough to fit in it she accidently zips the little strap up in the zipper (the one you use to hang it on the hanger with) She actually had to CUT the dress off of me. I was just about having a severe panic attack, I started perspiring profusely...not a pretty site
. Everyday I learn something new about having larger boobs, its DEFINATLY a learning experiance.
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Heh, cute story.

Today we had an amusing (sort of) experience at Nordstrom. It wasn't in our original plans for being at the mall, other than "oh yeah, we were going to go check out underwire bras now" sort of thing.
The lingerie section was rather busy, and it took me a while to realize there was an annual sale going on. Since our previous visit (1-2 weeks previously) had been a bust (no pun intended), I wasn't holding out much hope.
So we started browsing the racks. Err, the displays. 
cherri found a couple of dainty, lacy numbers which were conceivably in or close to her size, but she eventually put them back.
Not far from there, I found a bunch of Fantasie bras (there was no obvious Fantasie sign there). Hopes suddenly raised, I started to browse. They were all beige, so I focused on size only. Found one that looked reasonable (going from memory, it was maybe a 38G), but I put it back on the rack after cherri found a 38G by Le Mystère in red that she rather liked the look of.
On my way to meet back up with her, I discovered that a sales rep had separated her from the rest of the women, and was taking her off elsewhere to a less busy cash register.
As I was headed back to meet up with her, I'd noticed a rack of blue bras (or what the manufacturer calls "corn blue"), so I asked her if she was interested. She was, so she slowed down her advance to the register while I dashed off to see if they had it in her size.
By this time, the sales rep had caught up with me and started spouting off things like "oh she probably needs to be in a DDD or maybe F-cup, blablabla". I'm thinking to myself, you clueless twonk, I know what the fuck I'm doing here. I think she ended up pulling a 40E off the rack and followed along with me to meet up with cherri by the changing rooms. We handed cherri both the 40E and the 40G and cherri headed on inside. Somewhere in the dialogue, the sales rep asked cherri if she'd be interested in black, so she went off on a quest to find something apropos.
Oh, I almost forgot to mention! I don't quite recall at which point (I think it was while we were standing in front of the "corn blue" bras), but she tried to "educate" me, saying "by going up a bandeau size and down a cup size, it's exactly the same." I could feel myself quietly smouldring inside, wanting to scream at her what a disservice she's doing her customers by perpetuating that lie. But I held my tongue.
While cherri was in the changeroom, the sales rep swept by me and tossed out, "I'm just going to measure her" and off she went. Again, eyes quietly rolling inside my head.
At some point during our dealings with her (after the "measurement") she said to me with a straight face (and cherri standing right there), "Your wife is a 38H," to which I replied with my best I'm-dead-serious-when-I-say-this voice, "I knew that." Maybe she was expecting me to reel backwards in amazement or something. 
[cherri told me later that as the sales clerk was measuring her, she commented "oh, your current bra seems a bit small in the cup, you might need to go up a cupsize... what size is the bra you're wearing?" to which cherri replied "36H", to which the clerk replied with a startled "OH..." and that was pretty much it for the measuring session.
Oh, she did say something to the effect of "I never would have guessed, I'm a 40H myself." To which I told cherri, "Her? A 40H?? HAH! She's a BBW*, my guess is she should be wearing a 46B." Seriously, I tried to size her up a few times, and... well, there's just no bloody way that she's a mere size or two in bandeau away from cherri, and her boobs just weren't all that distinctive from the rest of her. Okay, maybe I'm being a little unkind; it's possible the clerk could have been a C-cup.]
I was still standing around outside when the clerk cruised past me again, this time saying "one of the blue bras fits her great!" The fact that she didn't say "the bra *I* suggested fits her great" told me that it was the bra that *I* selected which fit her better than *her* choice. Twonk. I still think a 38G would have been better than the 40G, but... okay, now I'm not sure why I didn't pull that one off the rack to send in with her. Argh. Anyway, cherri said the blue bra feels like it's not even there, so that's good in one sense, but questionably so from a breast support standpoint.
At any rate, I feel vindicted. Skadoosh! 
And yes, the red, black and blue bras look fab on her. 
* and I'm not just talking "a few extra curves here and there", folks; I'd be surprised if her BMI wasn't at least 35.
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Heh, cute story. 
Today we had an amusing (sort of) experience at Nordstrom. It wasn't in our original plans for being at the mall, other than "oh yeah, we were going to go check out underwire bras now" sort of thing.
The lingerie section was rather busy, and it took me a while to realize there was an annual sale going on. Since our previous visit (1-2 weeks previously) had been a bust (no pun intended), I wasn't holding out much hope.
So we started browsing the racks. Err, the displays. 
cherri found a couple of dainty, lacy numbers which were conceivably in or close to her size, but she eventually put them back.
Not far from there, I found a bunch of Fantasie bras (there was no obvious Fantasie sign there). Hopes suddenly raised, I started to browse. They were all beige, so I focused on size only. Found one that looked reasonable (going from memory, it was maybe a 38G), but I put it back on the rack after cherri found a 38G by Le Mystère in red that she rather liked the look of.
On my way to meet back up with her, I discovered that a sales rep had separated her from the rest of the women, and was taking her off elsewhere to a less busy cash register.
As I was headed back to meet up with her, I'd noticed a rack of blue bras (or what the manufacturer calls "corn blue"), so I asked her if she was interested. She was, so she slowed down her advance to the register while I dashed off to see if they had it in her size.
By this time, the sales rep had caught up with me and started spouting off things like "oh she probably needs to be in a DDD or maybe F-cup, blablabla". I'm thinking to myself, you clueless twonk, I know what the fuck I'm doing here. I think she ended up pulling a 40E off the rack and followed along with me to meet up with cherri by the changing rooms. We handed cherri both the 40E and the 40G and cherri headed on inside. Somewhere in the dialogue, the sales rep asked cherri if she'd be interested in black, so she went off on a quest to find something apropos.
Oh, I almost forgot to mention! I don't quite recall at which point (I think it was while we were standing in front of the "corn blue" bras), but she tried to "educate" me, saying "by going up a bandeau size and down a cup size, it's exactly the same." I could feel myself quietly smouldring inside, wanting to scream at her what a disservice she's doing her customers by perpetuating that lie. But I held my tongue.
While cherri was in the changeroom, the sales rep swept by me and tossed out, "I'm just going to measure her" and off she went. Again, eyes quietly rolling inside my head.
At some point during our dealings with her (after the "measurement") she said to me with a straight face (and cherri standing right there), "Your wife is a 38H," to which I replied with my best I'm-dead-serious-when-I-say-this voice, "I knew that." Maybe she was expecting me to reel backwards in amazement or something. 
[cherri told me later that as the sales clerk was measuring her, she commented "oh, your current bra seems a bit small in the cup, you might need to go up a cupsize... what size is the bra you're wearing?" to which cherri replied "36H", to which the clerk replied with a startled "OH..." and that was pretty much it for the measuring session.
Oh, she did say something to the effect of "I never would have guessed, I'm a 40H myself." To which I told cherri, "Her? A 40H?? HAH! She's a BBW*, my guess is she should be wearing a 46B." Seriously, I tried to size her up a few times, and... well, there's just no bloody way that she's a mere size or two in bandeau away from cherri, and her boobs just weren't all that distinctive from the rest of her. Okay, maybe I'm being a little unkind; it's possible the clerk could have been a C-cup.]
I was still standing around outside when the clerk cruised past me again, this time saying "one of the blue bras fits her great!" The fact that she didn't say "the bra *I* suggested fits her great" told me that it was the bra that *I* selected which fit her better than *her* choice. Twonk. I still think a 38G would have been better than the 40G, but... okay, now I'm not sure why I didn't pull that one off the rack to send in with her. Argh. Anyway, cherri said the blue bra feels like it's not even there, so that's good in one sense, but questionably so from a breast support standpoint.
At any rate, I feel vindicted. Skadoosh! 
And yes, the red, black and blue bras look fab on her. 
* and I'm not just talking "a few extra curves here and there", folks; I'd be surprised if her BMI wasn't at least 35.
LMAO, I have gotten to where I get soo frustrated shopping for bras...not only do those sales people make you feel like a FOOL but they also try to put you in a smaller bra BEFORE they measure you, which makes you feel like WTH did I spend this kinda money for someone to think I'm a D cup when I wear a H. They DO NOT realize that implants take a larger cup, its not like real boobs that can be molded like play doh in a bra. When I had my first set and needed a bra I went to a Victoria's Secret and the girl measured me at a 36 C, I said "will come in here and see if you can get these boobs to fit in this bra" It was OBVIOUS at that point that I was never going to be able to wear VS bras again.
I loved your story, my husband is CLUELESS when it come to bra shopping. I made him go in the dressing room with me when I got my first set and help do the straps and he absolutly felt like a dork. He HATED it, but then again he is NOT a boob man at all..they were all for ME.
I posted a great site to another poster about bra fitting...its got some great pointers. Ohh I would love to know the name of those bras you guys got. I love the Fantasie of England bras and I also love Freya bras. The Le Mystere do NOT fit me at all. I think my boobs are too round for that brand.
I would love to see pics of the bras if you are allowed to post them, I'm still learning my way around here. I tried to read the rules but got an error message and they wouldn't show up. *shrugs*
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Regarding the rules, I just noticed that the one pinned to the top of the Real World section has a broken link. So I pulled the correct one out of Palomine's signature:
http://login.bearchive.com/newuser.php
In a nutshell, you can post 1 pic per 1 thread per 1 day (or something like that), what we call the 1-1-1-1 rule. One way to know if 24 hours have passed, is to look to see if the "Edit" link of your last post which included a pic is still available. If it's still there, 24 hours haven't passed yet.
If you want to post more than that, you basically have to have artistic ownership of the pic in question. Or more to the point, true copyright.
In which case, you can post more than one pic, but you'll need to either put "Copyright © H_cups" or "Copyright (c) H_cups" either in the text body of your post (when you post the pic) or editing the pic so that it shows one of those copyright messages.
This includes even just doing direct linking to off-site images, as opposed to attaching them to the post.
As an aside, last November with cherri's boobjob surgery about a week away, I ended up on ordering a 38H no-wire front-closing bra (5 hooks in front) which has a very serious bit of elastic crossing the back. I ordered it based on my accumulated knowledge/guesstimation from HerBras.com. If memory serves (cherri is already asleep, else I'd ask her), it's this one:
http://www.herroom.com/Elila-1415-Jacquard-Soft-cup-Posture-Bra.shtml
Do a mouse-hover over the "back" link to see what elastics I'm talking about.
That bra was totally on the money! She tried it on early on just to see if it would fit, and it did. Then the post-op swelling started and it was a bit too snug, so we had to rely on a couple of bras we lucked out on from Lane Bryant. Most times Lane Bryant has bras with large bandeaus and average cups, but our searching paid off.
Oh by the way, I'd ordered that bra something like late on a Wed evening, and it had arrived by Saturday. I think her surgery was the following Tuesday.
Anyway, my site (link below) has a page dedicated to bra sites for bigger boobs. I'll see about getting the one you mentioned added to it, as it's not ringing any bells at the moment.
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Wait, your hubby isn't a boob man?
His loss.
I would have gladly been in the dressing room with cherri today. But like I said, the place was just crawling with women. I didn't want to weird anyone out. If anything, I was trying to find a neutral place to stare at (ie, nothing to do with bras or panties) and just look away to something else uninteresting if a woman ends up right smack in my path of whatever I'm staring at.
I think I'm fairly innocuous enough, but with some women, you can never tell when they'll flip out like a ninja. 
"MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! There's a MAN here! What's a MAN doing here? MAN man man MAN man MAN MAN man MAN?!?!?!??!!"
Or something like that. 
Master "we are a shrubbery, pay no attention, move along" Dragonfly
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Regarding the rules, I just noticed that the one pinned to the top of the Real World section has a broken link. So I pulled the correct one out of Palomine's signature:
http://login.bearchive.com/newuser.php
In a nutshell, you can post 1 pic per 1 thread per 1 day (or something like that), what we call the 1-1-1-1 rule. One way to know if 24 hours have passed, is to look to see if the "Edit" link of your last post which included a pic is still available. If it's still there, 24 hours haven't passed yet.
If you want to post more than that, you basically have to have artistic ownership of the pic in question. Or more to the point, true copyright.
In which case, you can post more than one pic, but you'll need to either put "Copyright © H_cups" or "Copyright (c) H_cups" either in the text body of your post (when you post the pic) or editing the pic so that it shows one of those copyright messages.
This includes even just doing direct linking to off-site images, as opposed to attaching them to the post.
As an aside, last November with cherri's boobjob surgery about a week away, I ended up on ordering a 38H no-wire front-closing bra (5 hooks in front) which has a very serious bit of elastic crossing the back. I ordered it based on my accumulated knowledge/guesstimation from HerBras.com. If memory serves (cherri is already asleep, else I'd ask her), it's this one:
http://www.herroom.com/Elila-1415-Jacquard-Soft-cup-Posture-Bra.shtml
Do a mouse-hover over the "back" link to see what elastics I'm talking about.
That bra was totally on the money! She tried it on early on just to see if it would fit, and it did. Then the post-op swelling started and it was a bit too snug, so we had to rely on a couple of bras we lucked out on from Lane Bryant. Most times Lane Bryant has bras with large bandeaus and average cups, but our searching paid off.
Oh by the way, I'd ordered that bra something like late on a Wed evening, and it had arrived by Saturday. I think her surgery was the following Tuesday.
Anyway, my site (link below) has a page dedicated to bra sites for bigger boobs. I'll see about getting the one you mentioned added to it, as it's not ringing any bells at the moment.
Thanks ALOT for the info on posting here, I will definatly save it to refer back to. 
Thats pretty quik shipment and that bra looks like a good one. I have been in Lane Bryant here but they are limited in my band size. I like their style though. thats the thing about larger cups...some kinda look like granny bras.
I'm still on the hunt for the "PERFECT" bra...LOL!!
That site I was talking about is called:
http://www.nowthatslingerie.com/en/bradoctorFAQ.php
I also have a great site for swimwear, they go up to an F cup but if you call them they will take your measurements over the phone and they will custom make you one. They are SUPER nice.
http://www.pango-pangoswimwear.com/index.html
I had this bra bookmarked, looks like a good fit. BTW I think this site has more larger cup bras.
http://www.senselingerie.com/pc-778-45-full-figured-soft-cup-bra.aspx
I have been to your site before. Lot of information there.
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Postscript:
Wait, your hubby isn't a boob man?
His loss.
I would have gladly been in the dressing room with cherri today. But like I said, the place was just crawling with women. I didn't want to weird anyone out. If anything, I was trying to find a neutral place to stare at (ie, nothing to do with bras or panties) and just look away to something else uninteresting if a woman ends up right smack in my path of whatever I'm staring at.
I think I'm fairly innocuous enough, but with some women, you can never tell when they'll flip out like a ninja. 
"MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! There's a MAN here! What's a MAN doing here? MAN man man MAN man MAN MAN man MAN?!?!?!??!!"
Or something like that. 
Master "we are a shrubbery, pay no attention, move along" Dragonfly
Ohh the day my husband was with me a young (I would say about 17) girl was coming in the dressing room as we were going out and the look on her face was PRICELESS. I hope she wasn't scarred for life over it, LOL!! He told me then, NEVER again was he going in with me. We actually have a specialty shop where I live and the women come in the dressing room with several bras your size and fit you. They are great cause the can look at you without measuring and be right on the money in size and style you need to enhance you. The only problem is they are limited on some brands.
I guess you don't see alot of men in the lingerie dept...I'm still laughing at your "MAN" comment. 
Its true, my husband is soo OVER anything to do with the boobs, he is more of a Butt man. I knew that before having them done though. I guess there are ALL kinds out there.
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I'm sure my "Boobies Make Me Smile" t-shirt would be a bad choice to wear in the lingerie department.
(Nevermind that I haven't had the guts to wear it, regardless. *sigh*)
There were at least 2 other men in the lingerie deparment when we were there. One seemed quite relaxed, not budging from where he was sitting (pretty close to the cash registers). cherri later told me that he was definitely a boob man, enjoying the sights coming and going.
Then there was another guy who was taking an equally neutral position to mine. Then his wife (guessing 40's, at best an A cup), with an armload of delicates (I didn't notice any bras) emerged and gave him a very visible thumbs-down. He said, "Nothing?" She said, "Nope." I guess she was irritated and wanted to make sure others got to share. 
Butts are great, too. cherri and I are both keen on the more shapely ones, pointing out the better ones to each other. Also, a butt augmentation is in her future, but it's not next on the list of Things To Do.
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If you're looking for other apparel options, may I suggest...
PROPERTY OF BEA t-shirts
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I still think a 38G would have been better than the 40G, but... okay, now I'm not sure why I didn't pull that one off the rack to send in with her. Argh. Anyway, cherri said the blue bra feels like it's not even there, so that's good in one sense, but questionably so from a breast support standpoint.
This morning we've decided we're going to exchange the 40G for a 38G or 36G. When I tried it on again this morning on the tightest hooks, it was still comfortable, however when I pushed my arms together the front of the bra came at least an inch away from my body. I prefer a snugger fit. I told her this. So we're keeping the 38s and taking the 40 back. 
Moral of the story: Pay attention to the boob man and ignore the "experienced" sales clerk.
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I still think a 38G would have been better than the 40G, but... okay, now I'm not sure why I didn't pull that one off the rack to send in with her. Argh. Anyway, cherri said the blue bra feels like it's not even there, so that's good in one sense, but questionably so from a breast support standpoint.
This morning we've decided we're going to exchange the 40G for a 38G or 36G. When I tried it on again this morning on the tightest hooks, it was still comfortable, however when I pushed my arms together the front of the bra came at least an inch away from my body. I prefer a snugger fit. I told her this. So we're keeping the 38s and taking the 40 back. 
Moral of the story: Pay attention to the boob man and ignore the "experienced" sales clerk.
Seems like he knows his stuff, next time take him in the room with ya
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I'm like you, I like a tighter fit and its best to get it a little tight since the do stretch out. Just remember if you go down in a band you may need to go up in the cup size. Have you measured your ribcage? I measure 31 and I buy a 34 but from all the fitting advise on most websites I should be in a 36. I like the way a 34 fits me better. There is also a site that you actually measure each boob and match it with the band size and it gives you an idea of the cup you should be in. But my experiance with that is, I just have to try on cause the shape of my boobs makes it different from the different companies and styles.
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If you're looking for other apparel options, may I suggest...
PROPERTY OF BEA t-shirts
NICE, but I would have to cut it to show my girls off. Thats way more coverage than I'm used to.
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How about one of the ones from this site?
TittyTops
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How about one of the ones from this site?
TittyTops
HA!! I was just on that site earlier.
I think Masterdragonfly needs that titologist shirt they have for men. He needs it for the next bra shopping trip with collared_cherri.
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Just remember if you go down in a band you may need to go up in the cup size.
Or at least that's the popular myth they would have us believe. I don't agree with it any more than I agree with "go up a band size and down a cup size", because otherwise the following would also be true:
- go up 2 band sizes and down 2 cup sizes
- go up 3 band sizes and down 3 cup sizes
- go up 4 band sizes and down 4 cup sizes
- go up 5 band sizes and down 5 cup sizes
- go up 6 band sizes and down 6 cup sizes
- go up 7 band sizes and down 7 cup sizes
... etc ...
This is called reductio ad absurdum. Put another way, if you wear a 36H today, then you should also be able to comfortably wear a 50A and it would work just as well.
Conversely, if you wear a 36H then you could switch to a 26M and it would fit just as well.
Which is bogus, in my opinion.
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I'd actually like to try out either Dr Pechter's method (you've probably heard of it) or the method detailed over on www.plussizebras.info .
Someday. In the meantime, the bras I picked out for her months ago seem to have pretty much nailed it.
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Just remember if you go down in a band you may need to go up in the cup size.
Or at least that's the popular myth they would have us believe. I don't agree with it any more than I agree with "go up a band size and down a cup size", because otherwise the following would also be true:
- go up 2 band sizes and down 2 cup sizes
- go up 3 band sizes and down 3 cup sizes
- go up 4 band sizes and down 4 cup sizes
- go up 5 band sizes and down 5 cup sizes
- go up 6 band sizes and down 6 cup sizes
- go up 7 band sizes and down 7 cup sizes
... etc ...
This is called reductio ad absurdum. Put another way, if you wear a 36H today, then you should also be able to comfortably wear a 50A and it would work just as well.
Conversely, if you wear a 36H then you could switch to a 26M and it would fit just as well.
Which is bogus, in my opinion.
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Have you measured your ribcage?
I'd actually like to try out either Dr Pechter's method (you've probably heard of it) or the method detailed over on www.plussizebras.info .
Someday. In the meantime, the bras I picked out for her months ago seem to have pretty much nailed it.
I dunno about all that up and down, I'm just going from my experiance in bra shopping. If I buy a 36 G I can wear a 34 H or if i buy a 36 F I can wear a 34G...am I making sense? I NEVER buy a 40 band, for one it rides up in the back and two your band is suppose to do all the supporting not the straps and thats not my size. Now I do own a sports bra that is a 38 DD, I only bought it cause I have yet to find one that fit my boobs right.
As far as the bra sizing, I have not tried his way but I will look at it and try and do the measuring and see what I come up with. I have used this site which may be kinda close. It has the above, bust and below measurement tool and it calculates it for you. HA HA rememember I am a female(and blonde) and the only numbers I know how to read are on a price tag. JK
http://www.85b.org/bra_calc.php
I like this way of measuring, only prob is when you get to the larger cup sizes its off the charts. 
http://www.herroom.com/measure-bra-size-with-implants,904,30.html
BTW this is soo weird talking to a guy about BRAS. Its been kinda interesting. You know alot about them I will say.
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I dunno about all that up and down, I'm just going from my experiance in bra shopping. If I buy a 36 G I can wear a 34 H or if i buy a 36 F I can wear a 34G...am I making sense? I NEVER buy a 40 band, for one it rides up in the back and two your band is suppose to do all the supporting not the straps and thats not my size. Now I do own a sports bra that is a 38 DD, I only bought it cause I have yet to find one that fit my boobs right.
The theory (so the vendors would have you believe) that having a bit of latitude going up/down in bandeau size while at the same time going down/up in cup size is a bit of a slippery slope, that's all I'm saying.
Let's say you go into a store with the goal to buy a new 36G. They tell you "sorry, we're all out of 36G, but you can go up a band size and down a cup size, so a 38F should fit you just fine."
Sounds innocuous enough, right? A wee bit of wiggle room? It certainly helps them clear out stock and make the sale, right?
So based on the above, we are led to believe that a 38F should fit you. After all, if you follow the above logic, it WILL fit you. Or so they want you to believe.
So you walk into the same store a week later, thinking "okay, I can buy a 38F and get away with it" and tell the clerk (a different clerk) you're open to buying a 38F. This clerk tells you "sorry, we're all out of 38F, but you can go up a band size and down a cup size, so a 40 E should fit you just fine."
See where I'm going with this? The "wee bit of wiggle room" premise that they would have you buy into breaks down real fast.
Also, think about this with shoes. Would you buy a pair of shoes which is one size larger if the clerk tells you "well if you tighten the laces, they'll fit you just fine"? Or the flip side, a shoe size too small, "well if you let the laces out, they'll fit you just fine"?
Not for my money. I want a pair of shoes which are bang on, otherwise I'm just asking for trouble.
That said, I *did* come across this reference (while trying to find a copy of Dr Pechter's guideline).
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... For example, if you've been wearing a 34C that's too big in the band, you should move down a band size and up ...
and the rest gets truncated, as it's not part of the preview. But it's easy to see that the rest would have read "... a cup size".
The key point there is that IF you've been wearing a bra which isn't quite fitting right, then you have a suggestion on how to remediate that.
This isn't the same as one bra being equivalent to another bra, simply by going up a band size and down a cup size (or vice-versa).
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As far as the bra sizing, I have not tried his way but I will look at it and try and do the measuring and see what I come up with. I have used this site which may be kinda close. It has the above, bust and below measurement tool and it calculates it for you. HA HA rememember I am a female(and blonde) and the only numbers I know how to read are on a price tag. JK
http://www.85b.org/bra_calc.php
I took a quick look at this. The good thing is it saves you having to do the math yourself. The bad thing is it most likely uses the common methodology of adding 5 inches to the underbust measurement. Which just seems wrong.
This sizing system seems quite a bit more reasonable. More measurements, but certainly adding only 2" to the chestband size makes more sense (to me).
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BTW this is soo weird talking to a guy about BRAS. Its been kinda interesting. You know alot about them I will say.
Heh, thanks. 
I'll say that my bra-fu is only fair to middling. There are others on this site who have done some fairly deep dives into the world of bras. I've tried to distill a lot of that on my site. It saves me having to keep looking around for notes or old threads.
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I don't buy into the theory that if your measurement around your ribcage is X you should add Y inches to it to get your correct measurements. This seems to only apply to bras. You don't add inches to your waist measurement when buying jeans, pants or skirts. You don't add a size to your foot measurements when buying shoes. Bra measurements are just far too complicated and confusing than they need to be.
My ribcage is 37 inches. As I've discovered, a 40 is not a good fit for me. A 42 isn't going to be an improvement.
In future I think I'll ignore the sales pitch and tell them to give me what I want, not what they think I need.
It also grates on my nerves that saying you need a DDD cup bra somehow makes you feel better about yourself than needing an F+ size. It's ludicrous.
In the past I've found a brand and style I've been comfortable in and been loyal to it simply because I can't be bothered trying on dozens of pairs and being measured and remeasured and still given a bra that I'm not totally happy with. As was this weekend's experience. I can just take one off the rack and up to the counter to purchase. But since my boob job I've had to start from scratch again. So we're still in the process of trial and error. Unfortunately still heavily on the error side of things.
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I have always just gone in a tried on til I find one that fits. I have found soo many brands differ in their cups sizes that it really doesn't matter how much math you do it all comes down to style and fit. I know what style I like (balconette)and I have shopped til I have found that style. I have low slung boobs naturally so having a shelf like bra brings them up and out, not smashed inward and toward my armpits like some I have tried. I have really close cleavage naturally and the balconette seem to seperate it some. I also love the upper pole look and that style seems to accentuate it better. It just seems like if I push my cleavage together it makes me look like I have a uniboob.
I have found a specialty store here where I live and they bring the bras in the room, help you with the straps and adjust the cups. You never see them on racks, they have them in drawers in the back room like its some kind of secret. There is no comparison to the European bras, its the fit and the quality that I fell in love with not the store, I was SOLD. They are VERY expensive though...so I only own a handful.
Have you tried any of the Olga bras? I have one style that I do like. I bought a 38 DD since I needed a larger cup and they don't go any higher than a DD. The cups are VERY stretchy so it will accomodate larger boobs. I have found the band runs a little small on that style too. Lane Bryant also has ALOT of nice bras...any luck there?
Good Luck with your bra hunting journey. There is NOTHING like a good fitting bra.
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Just remember if you go down in a band you may need to go up in the cup size.
Or at least that's the popular myth they would have us believe. I don't agree with it any more than I agree with "go up a band size and down a cup size", because otherwise the following would also be true:
- go up 2 band sizes and down 2 cup sizes
- go up 3 band sizes and down 3 cup sizes
- go up 4 band sizes and down 4 cup sizes
- go up 5 band sizes and down 5 cup sizes
- go up 6 band sizes and down 6 cup sizes
- go up 7 band sizes and down 7 cup sizes
... etc ...
This is called reductio ad absurdum. Put another way, if you wear a 36H today, then you should also be able to comfortably wear a 50A and it would work just as well.
Conversely, if you wear a 36H then you could switch to a 26M and it would fit just as well.
Which is bogus, in my opinion.
My good man, are you sayin my wife of 40DD could infact be wearing a 32F? My oh my how awsome that would be telling my friends my wife is a 32F
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My good man, are you sayin my wife of 40DD could infact be wearing a 32F? My oh my how awsome that would be telling my friends my wife is a 32F
Not unless she's actually wearing a 32F. Have you actually tried getting her to try on a 32F? How about a 30G? A 28H? A 26I? A 24J?
This is the sort of silliness that some (most?) bra departments would have you buy into. "Wait what? It's not a perfect fit? Well if you pull up on the left bra strap and hold it there with your chin, you'll be all set!" 
At some point, it really does get silly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
But feel free to tell your friends whatever you're happy telling them.
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I agree Master Dragonfly. I've been told that lie about the band size my entire life. I measure my band, and then measure how much bigger around my boob is. Or I just measure base to nipple, but still, that lie has made me have may a uncomfortable bra.
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After reading this thread (linked from your signature, MasterDragonfly), I'm curious as to what you have to say about them now, over 1 year after the fact. If Cherri could weigh in as well, that would be fantastic!
Q-"Curiouser and curiouser"-BE ???
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They're fab. :) She's really pleased to have had the work done.
There have been discussions around going bigger, but it's not nearly the priority it once was. Mainly because she's got some goodness going on now. :)
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Would be cool to see this thread upated with some pics of CC...
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Not a bad idea, although it'll require some co-ordination of my memory, free time and a camera. :)
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Take your time MDF, we all want to see her :P
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Take your time MDF, we all want to see her :P
Absolutely. Also, we are all extremely grateful you are willing to share her with us, because I think some of us would rather keep her all for ourselves if we were in your situation! :D
Q-"Spreading the wealth around?"-BE :P
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It would appear that the image loss from the forum migration of 2009 affected some of the pics I'd posted of cherri.
So in the interest of providing hopefully useful info to others, here are four pics I must say I rather like. :)
First pic:
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Second pic:
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Third pic:
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Fourth/last pic:
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Boy, I miss her. Wish she would say hi to us. :)
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Thanks for the post master.Now a few questions:
Its been 4 years since the operation.What are your impression about the overfill .Was it a good idea or is it too firm? Has the firmness decreased through time? Would it have possible to get a 1000cc custom( if possible ) and had it be overfilled to 1200cc. Has gravity started rearing it ugly head?
I have to admit they look smaller than I expected.That could be just me
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Its been 4 years since the operation.What are your impression about the overfill .
The first handful of days were harsh. But that was less about the overfill and more about the net fill.
Nowadays it seems fairly natural, so to speak.
Was it a good idea or is it too firm?
Absolutely fine. Not too firm at all.
Has the firmness decreased through time?
Hard to say. I asked her, and we both spent some time with a critical eye. They're perhaps less perky, hang more naturally. She'd be happy to have them pumped up bigger.
Would it have possible to get a 1000cc custom( if possible ) and had it be overfilled to 1200cc.
At the time, the only 1000cc I knew for certain was through another surgeon who was taking part in that trial. I don't know with any certainty whether he could have also gotten the 1000cc saline implants (and I still don't know with 100% certainty whether those were definitely an option at the time, regardless of surgeon).
Has gravity started rearing it ugly head?
I suppose, in a sense. They have a more natural hang to them now.
I have to admit they look smaller than I expected.That could be just me
She used to play a lot of sports. Including rugby. So she's got the frame for it. Plus she's a long way from a waifish 110 lbs. ;)
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What pointers can you give? What mistakes did you make and what should I avoid and or buy to make this go smoothy.I still have time so it will be easy to shop around.
I wish mine was going bigger than 1000cc.She may be between 1000 and 1100 not sure .I will leave it up to the Doc to decide.She wants as natural a look as possible.
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Pointers/mistakes? Hmm.
She needed a lift (this was non-negotiable as far as every surgeon was concerned). I requested a vertical lift. I don't know what I was thinking; in retrospect I should have requested a lollipop lift.
Figure out where she'll **82** for the first few nights. A bed won't cut it. You can try getting the wedge-shaped pillow, but that may not be enough. cherri was most comfy when she was sitting upright on the couch, ankles supported by a chair, pillows stuffed under her elbows, supporting her arms.
I purchased the right bra beforehand. Bear in mind that your surgeon may specify a bra with no underwire (most likely if the suture is in the breast fold).
At 1000cc, the natural look will come with time and gravity. If not 6 weeks post-op, then perhaps 6 months post-op. That said, just specify to the surgeon that she wants the natural look, and leave it at that. If the surgeon seems conflicted regarding the request for 1000cc and the request for the natural look, then you'll have to make a decision. I'd recommend the 1000cc, but it's ultimately her call.
One other thing... is she going under the muscle? If so (and sorry for not remembering this at this particular moment) but does she already have implants under the muscle, or will this be her first surgery?
If it's her first surgery, going larger than 1000cc might not be a good idea.
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Second surgery and the first was over the muscle.Her first one was about 400cc
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The surgeon might want to switch her to submuscular, going to 1000cc.
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Dr Revis said he was going to a internal bra,whatever that is.
He explained it as sewing the muscles to form an internal bra.I have a feeling that is going to hurt for weeks afterwards.
What your stand on lotions to reduce scaring? You find them work or not?
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I think things like Mederma have validity. Of course, vitamin E oil is pretty decent as well.
That said, do NOT put anything on the sutures prior to a point in time that the surgeon says you can do. Typically this won't be before the scabs have fallen off. Follow the surgeon's aftercare instructions as closely as possible.
As an aside, it might not be a bad idea to spend some time (eg, daily application for a couple weeks prior to surgery, and daily post-op (where not restricted by bandages)) applying something such as Udder Balm to the breasts to help make the skin more compliant and less likely to get stretch marks. BE SURE to stay well clear of any location where the surgeon will be cutting and putting sutures, eg, periareolar (if that's where he's cutting) or inframammary (if that's where he's cutting). You really don't want anything unexpected leeching into the suture.
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Got it!...This may really sound like a stupid question.Since the wife is a hair stylist one of her worries is not being able to cut hair without her boobs contacting the guy.If you sat down in a chair, would your wifes boobs touch your head and does she think mobility will be a problem with this profession?
I would prefer she be a little bigger like around Miss Lyn size but I am not sure how big she is.Her profile says 1200 but she looks more like 2000cc.What do you think?
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Got it!...This may really sound like a stupid question.Since the wife is a hair stylist one of her worries is not being able to cut hair without her boobs contacting the guy.If you sat down in a chair, would your wifes boobs touch your head and does she think mobility will be a problem with this profession?
She has cut my hair. I don't recall her boobs hitting my head. Then again, I wasn't leaning back in a wash basin either and having my shoulder thumped by her boobs, either.
I would prefer she be a little bigger like around Miss Lyn size but I am not sure how big she is.Her profile says 1200 but she looks more like 2000cc.What do you think?
To save having me look this person up, I'll say this: your wife isn't going to be getting 2000cc implants with her first surgery. Save the what-if scenarios for after she's got her 1200cc and has been blessed by a surgeon who will take her to 2000cc.
Also: Might it be time for you to start a new thread dedicated to your wife?
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Mmmm no boob brush so much for the bigger tips...LOL
I will ask her about the thread but if it happened it would not be till March of next year
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There have been some BEAers who have spoken about getting the "boob brush". (I think? or am I thinking about someone in my circle of friends in RL...?) Whether the woman is aware of it or not, she acts like it's no big deal, or that she's not aware of it. The ones who reported the experience tended more towards bigger tipping.
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Heck yeah...
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I'm glad things are working out, MDF.
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Cheers, Pedonbio.