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Title: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Prof Morearty on May 08, 2018, 05:04:43 PM
This new rule, approved by the moderators, will not affect many of you.  Its purpose is to assure all participants that they can expect to see their posts last long enough on the front page for others to notice them and have a chance to respond.  It has been added to the rules page (link above), here repeated for your information:

Do not post/attach/link more than eight images per forum in any 12-hour period: any posts exceeding this limit will be deleted. After the 12-hour period has elapsed, you may post again.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: solvegas on May 08, 2018, 05:35:40 PM
Salem agreed to this?   :o Won't he have withdrawal symptoms?    ;) ;D Just kidding.  ;D
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Spinster on May 08, 2018, 06:59:53 PM
The Spinster Rule.  ;D

I bend the knee to this new rule.

Carry on with the boobs!
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Sawyer90 on May 08, 2018, 11:21:23 PM
Seems quite fair, if you ask me.

Thanks for the public notice.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on May 09, 2018, 03:09:26 AM
While it doesnt seem to be too big a deal to me, it does seem like too much math.  Was it really all that bad?  I remember it being much worse years ago, that's for sure.  :P

I guess it's a tough call between balancing the reasons that the good professor has given and squashing the enthusiasm some of us get to share hot pix.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: salem on May 10, 2018, 05:30:41 AM
Salem agreed to this?   :o Won't he have withdrawal symptoms?    ;) ;D Just kidding.  ;D

I tend to split my posting in morning and evening, so I am just about ok!  :)
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Prof Morearty on May 10, 2018, 05:25:17 PM
We don't want to dampen enthusiasm, but a limit of 16 image posts per person per day isn't really all that draconian, is it? 
And what's the math problem? Whenever you post, you are returned to the forum's first page, and when you see you have eight posts with images there, take a well-earned break.  If you need later to refresh your memory as to the time of your last post, just glance at that post and read the posting time: 12 hours gone? Post away :)

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Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: lurker on May 11, 2018, 06:52:51 AM
Why not allow multiple images per post then?
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: solvegas on May 11, 2018, 09:36:14 AM
Why not allow multiple images per post then?

Many moons ago when the site was young people would do this. Unfortunately, people can abuse the system and so it was decided to limit people since they were violating copyright in one big post. The BEA got some nastygrams from the affected copyright holders and so two rules came about from this. One, you must claim ownership of your own work and two, you can only put one image at a time ergo the famous 1-1-1 rule.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: TheZookie007 on May 11, 2018, 11:18:15 AM
It's still a lot of math though...also, may be a solution for a problem that doesn't exist or that exists for a very small fraction of posters (as was acknowledged in the first sentence of this thread).
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: jimmarg on May 11, 2018, 01:14:00 PM
We don't want to dampen enthusiasm, but a limit of 16 image posts per person per day isn't really all that draconian, is it?  µ

My 2 cents: I've gotten used to making my occasional posts late in the evening and seeing them already on page three the next morning. No big deal, but it wasn't always like this. So, personally I'd side with old Draco and crack down even harder, but if that would cramp other people's expansive style, again, no biggie. I just miss the old BEA.  :'( 
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Prof Morearty on May 11, 2018, 05:10:14 PM
I confess to a blunder on my part: I did indeed open this thread with the statement "This new rule, approved by the moderators, will not affect many of you." That was inaccurate. It should have been something like "This new restriction... will only apply to a few of you".  The rule affects everybody, in that it changes the makeup of the forum.  Before, it was possible for a couple of participants, or even just one, to take over the entire front page and push everyone else off.  During the mods' discussion, I documented a case where a post was pushed out to page 2 in less than an hour, and that by one individual. As we can see in this thread, some had no problem with this situation, but others resented it.
As I remarked below, the present situation is not exactly cruel to megaposters, allowing 16 posts a day. And those who disliked the earlier practice feel some relief.
I regret that I have to re-express my bewilderment at the charge that "too much math is involved." When you post, you are returned to the front page of the forum and can see the latest posts (the default number of them is 20), and you can count them: if you have made eight posts, stop posting. Is that too complex to implement? 
You can post again 12 hours later.  If you don't bother to remember the time of your earlier posts, you can determine it by opening your last post and reading the timestamp at the top: if it's more than 12 hours ago, post away.  If not, wait. Is that too burdensome?
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on May 12, 2018, 06:35:58 AM
Yes, that's what I meant. I rarely post all at once. Sometimes a couple here or there. Sometimes an hour or hours apart when I get a chance throughout the day. So, I have to go back later and recheck: when we're those done? Open it up, check the time stamp. How many were there?  I'm working during the day (like most of us, I'm guessing LOL) so I'm not recording in my head when I made a post, usually. It's just fun to take a quick break here and there, check up on the forum or make a quick post.

Usually not a big deal, but it is a bit tedious.  before I could pop in fairly quick and post something. Now, sometimes not so much. I'll live, but yeah, it does suck some of the spontaneity and fun out of it when I have search and open up multiple posts for timestamps.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Prof Morearty on May 13, 2018, 08:50:40 AM
I regret the inconvenience, Shadowmuse Blown.  I confess that we thought that the "megaposters" normally made multiple postings in binges, which would make them easy to monitor. Your practice is to post one or two at a time, so it's a bit more of a nuisance for you to follow up.

Here's a tip which should make it easier: in your profile, go to
Account settings --> Modify Profile --> Look and Layout -> Topics to display per page: set that to 25. Your forum page will now display the last 25 posts, which will almost always cover more than 12 hours: the latest poster and time of post will be displayed for each of those posts.  At least, I hope so: in my case, it works on my PC but not on my Nexus. Assuming it's OK, it's easy for you to scan down and see how many posts you have made: if there are fewer than 8, you may post more. That's oversimplified, but basically valid.

To show you what I mean I attach a screencap of my first forum page at noon today GMT.  You can see that it goes back some 22 hours.  You made two posts during that time, so you could post six more without bothering to calculate exactly.

Hope that helps.

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Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Magiciano on May 19, 2018, 11:09:34 AM
I found this on page six.
Shouldn't it be a "sticky" on page one?
Just asking,
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Prof Morearty on May 19, 2018, 01:14:46 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Magiciano, but it's already included in summary in the stickied thread Rule Changes & Other News PLEASE READ ALL NEW POSTS!, with a link to this announcing thread for those who want to discuss.

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Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on May 20, 2018, 12:37:39 AM
I regret the inconvenience, Shadowmuse Blown.  I confess that we thought that the "megaposters" normally made multiple postings in binges, which would make them easy to monitor. Your practice is to post one or two at a time, so it's a bit more of a nuisance for you to follow up.

Here's a tip which should make it easier: in your profile, go to
Account settings --> Modify Profile --> Look and Layout -> Topics to display per page: set that to 25. Your forum page will now display the last 25 posts, which will almost always cover more than 12 hours: the latest poster and time of post will be displayed for each of those posts.  At least, I hope so: in my case, it works on my PC but not on my Nexus. Assuming it's OK, it's easy for you to scan down and see how many posts you have made: if there are fewer than 8, you may post more. That's oversimplified, but basically valid.

To show you what I mean I attach a screencap of my first forum page at noon today GMT.  You can see that it goes back some 22 hours.  You made two posts during that time, so you could post six more without bothering to calculate exactly.

Hope that helps.

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Thanks for the tip, Professor.  Unfortunately, I usually access the forum from my iPhone, which does not display all that good information on the page.  But I appreciate your help.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Nimrod on January 04, 2019, 11:04:49 AM
At first I was not sure how to process this new rule.
A maximum limit of 16 new post/images/threads in a 12 hour period. (32 maximum per day)
I understand the limit, just that the reason and motivation feels a bit counter productive.

Any rule that limits forum participation should be reviewed. Granted this would have deleted only a few user's contributions. Yet, as it would affect so few, even now, was this practice really that disruptive?

I have rolled this around my circuits and have concluded that even though this does place a limit on forum participation it does result in a more open feeling and produces an appearance that more contributions are being displayed. Yes, it is all for show, but that does seem to be the intent of the new rule.

I would ask if producing some expansive works, such as the BEA Princess thread, now with dozens of embedded images within a single post, may get special consideration as their intent is to be comprehensive and not disruptive. All I am saying is there may be a few instances where having more than 16 postings (thread, image, posts) may be valid.

I would note that a multi-link posting appears to still be allowed, such as with the Shara "farewell" post a few years back. A single posting could have numerous links to other posts within it, something of an index.
This would be good for post such as:
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Charade Recherche on January 04, 2019, 05:17:08 PM
At first I was not sure how to process this new rule.
A maximum limit of 16 new post/images/threads in a 12 hour period. (32 maximum per day)
I understand the limit, just that the reason and motivation feels a bit counter productive.

Any rule that limits forum participation should be reviewed. Granted this would have deleted only a few user's contributions. Yet, as it would affect so few, even now, was this practice really that disruptive?

I have rolled this around my circuits and have concluded that even though this does place a limit on forum participation it does result in a more open feeling and produces an appearance that more contributions are being displayed. Yes, it is all for show, but that does seem to be the intent of the new rule.

I would ask if producing some expansive works, such as the BEA Princess thread, now with dozens of embedded images within a single post, may get special consideration as their intent is to be comprehensive and not disruptive. All I am saying is there may be a few instances where having more than 16 postings (thread, image, posts) may be valid.

I would note that a multi-link posting appears to still be allowed, such as with the Shara "farewell" post a few years back. A single posting could have numerous links to other posts within it, something of an index.
This would be good for post such as:
  • Farewell posts
  • Loss of computer access posts
  • Best of a user's posting index
  • What ever happened to posts
  • etc.

Has this changed?  I thought it was 8 posts per 12 hour period.
It doesn't effect me, but Cris likes to post a bunch over a period of time.
Looking up the rules, I don't see anything about 16 posts/12 hr period.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Prof Morearty on January 05, 2019, 07:49:09 AM
The limit is indeed eight image posts per 12-hour period.  This is stated clearly in the opening post of this thread and in the rules. I'm happy to note that most people welcomed this limit, or at least accepted it with good grace.  The problem for most people was that megaposters could take over the entire first page, or even more, thus obscuring everyone else's posts.  Obviously there had to be some limit, otherwise one poster could take over dozens of pages of the forum.  Eight per 12-hour period (=16 per day, in two batches) was accepted as a reasonable limit.

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Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: lurker on January 05, 2019, 08:15:34 AM
If that is the reasoning, then it should be ok to attach an unrestricted number of images to any single post.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Prof Morearty on January 06, 2019, 04:09:31 AM
If that is the reasoning, then it should be ok to attach an unrestricted number of images to any single post.
That would be true if we only consider the rule under consideration.  However, other rules and principles would apply:

- First rule: You may post/attach/link only one unmorphed image per thread in a 24-hour period.

- Flood rule: Do not post, offer, or solicit any of the following types of content:
          Excessive quantities of copyrighted content


- As mentioned earlier in this thread, the BEA had legal problems earlier because of flood posts.  After all, practically everything posted here is copyrighted.

And it's all moot anyway: the forum's software allows only one attachment per post.

So forget it.

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Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Nimrod on December 07, 2019, 11:57:52 AM
If that is the reasoning, then it should be ok to attach an unrestricted number of images to any single post.
That would be true if we only consider the rule under consideration.  However, other rules and principles would apply:

- First rule: You may post/attach/link only one unmorphed image per thread in a 24-hour period.

- Flood rule: Do not post, offer, or solicit any of the following types of content:
          Excessive quantities of copyrighted content


- As mentioned earlier in this thread, the BEA had legal problems earlier because of flood posts.  After all, practically everything posted here is copyrighted.

And it's all moot anyway: the forum's software allows only one attachment per post.

So forget it.

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You bring up a good point with the interplay or interaction of the other forum rules.

Let me see if I have a full understanding of the limitations by first noting the pertinent rules and then describing the impact they have.

Rules in consideration are :

a) Do not post/attach/link more than eight images per forum in any 12-hour period: any posts exceeding this limit will be deleted. After the 12-hour period has elapsed, you may post again. (New rule as of May 2018)

b) You may post/attach/link only one un-morphed image per thread in a 24-hour period.

c) Do not post, offer, or solicit any of the following types of content:
          Excessive quantities of copyrighted content


On first pass there appear to be immediate contradictions / conflicts with rules a and b. Additionally rule c introduces aspects of copyright and the indistinct concept of "excessive quantities" which must rely on other rules to define. But this is not an exercise in semantics but one of proper interpretations.

So, from these three rules alone we define image post limits by several criteria:
Q) Quantity: Number or count of images
R) Rights: Copyright or not-copyright
M) Morphed: morphed or not-morphed
D) Duration: 12-hours and 24-hours
L) Level: Forum or Thread

TYPES OF IMAGES :

Let us first list images in order of most to least restricted by these rules:
* = "per thread"

1) copyrighted un-morphed image / rule b = limit of 1 in 24-hours *.
2) personal un-morphed image / rule b = limit of 1 in 24-hours *.
3) copyrighted morphed image / rule a = limit of 8 in 12-hours *.
4) personal morphed image / rule a = limit of 8 in 12 hours *.

As one can see the key aspect to bi-pass the rule b is to "morph" the image. This is more appealing because rule b treats both personal and copyrighted images the same.

This brings into consideration as to what is a morphed image. This is not defined, however from practice it appears to be any image that has had individual pixels of the source image manipulated. This therefor excludes simple 1st level edits such as; resizing, rotation, crops, hue/intensity/contrast, etc. This does allow for any 2nd level or higher edits such as; deformation, mesh warps, composites, blends, text, watermarks, or pixel manipulations, etc.

There is one other rule that if added to the mix would create yet another level of criteria:

LOOPHOLE? :

x) You may post text-links or image-links to images that already exist on the BEA server without restrictions.

This is something I actually do often and it begs the question, since we are to consider the interaction of all the rules to help us limit our postings, how does one reconcile the terms of "without restrictions" in the context of this discussion?

One could argue that the original intent of the 1-1-1-1 rule was actually to limit the amount of bandwidth used to power the BEA forum as rule x would indicate that after an image was in the mix, reusing it was not problematic, just the addition of NEW content was a concern.

(I know this to be the case having been there each time the 1-1-1-1 rule was expanded)

CONCLUSION:

To maximize any one user's images per post the following would have to be employed so as to conform to the rules as they stand here at the end of 2019.

- Post (do not externally link) images
- Post only morphed or edited/created work
- Post only work that you created/morphed or own
- Claim ownership of the works
- Post no more than 8 such images in one thread or across threads in any one forum in 12-hours.
- and link "without restrictions" other related morphed/created non-copyright images already in the BEA.

MOST RESTRICTED IMAGES :

It should be noted that the most restricted content would be:
- Copyrighted externally linked unedited images - limited to 1 in 24 hours

LEAST RESTRICTED IMAGES :

It should be noted that the least restricted content would be:
- Personal posted morphed/created images - limited to 8 every 12 hours (16 every 24 hours)
- Personal internally linked morphed/created images - "without restrictions" but may run into the "excessive" clause, so let us say the maximum of all rules at 16 in one thread in 12 hours.

Is that comprehensive enough?
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Nimrod on April 06, 2020, 05:05:36 PM
Now that my analysis of the new posting guidelines has been up for 4 months without any comments I feel that it has been deemed in keeping with the letter and intent of the forum rules.

I say this because I am planning on posting a comprehensive big-bust influence history to coincide with my 2000th post here at the BEA. This post will comply with the rules, however it will appear as a series of related image references personally modified, composited, and noted to refer to commentary of the post.

Because of the attachment size limit set by the forum for any one image, I will employ and utilize the posting limits established in this thread and outlined in my review post above. A maximum of 8 images in consecutive posts within one thread within 12 hours. This will allow other users to read and see the reference images uninterrupted by other user posts as it is a single work in that thread.

I feel it necessary to forewarn as I can see how this might "trigger" a moderator or other user to say that some manner of posting limit has been exceeded. As several others in this posting limit thread have mentioned, when properly applied, these limits will produce a better forum, less apt to have broken links, fewer copyright challenges, and less likelihood that a single user will "flood" the forum front page.

To qualify for this upper posting limit my images are (as outlined above) modified/morphed and personally created/composited and not externally linked while relating to my own reference text which I claim.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Bombayduk on April 06, 2020, 11:08:36 PM
I noticed after the outage, images were dropped from 3mb to 2mb in size limit.  Is this permanent or an unaddressed accident?
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: lurker on April 06, 2020, 11:42:01 PM
Why is it that in 2020 this site is still not using HTTPS?
Title: New Posting Limits ??
Post by: ninja1195 on April 10, 2020, 04:26:40 AM
My two cents?

No more than 6-8 post, threads, images or even REPLIES within a 24H period.

I'm beyond tired of seeing the same two or three "good ole boys"  post AND reply to nearly every single thread.

Day after day, the same few people are all over this forum and seem to wish to hijack each and every thread. Often times with long winded and idiotic replies that have no context in relation to the thread.

This forum is supposed to be for everyone but it has become clear long ago that some people just do not know when to NOT post a reply if its not relevant or "reply worthy" if you will.

:(

Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: salem on April 10, 2020, 10:43:09 AM
I would be happy to keep the same posting limits for the General Discussion forum, that of no more than 8 posts in a 12 hour period, but apply that not just to image posts but to all posts, regardless of whether or not they have images on them.

I do agree that the posting (mine included) can be a bit excessive (although my posts are almost always image related) at times. I have seen posts from 9 in the morning be on the third page by late afternoon, or worse. A lot of these replies are just a couple of words.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: ninja1195 on April 10, 2020, 11:37:21 AM
"I would be happy to keep the same posting limits for the General Discussion forum, that of no more than 8 posts in a 12 hour period, but apply that not just to image posts but to all posts, regardless of whether or not they have images on them"

I will not speak for others but I would applaud that rule!!

Certain people (I will not name names but we all know who you are) seem to go overboard and dominate the BEA with endless posts and off topic idiotic replies just for the sake of "keeping a thread alive" ??

So the rest of us are forced to endure your countless replies day after day?

Threads will die off assuming you allow them to!
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: scamitar2 on April 10, 2020, 05:17:48 PM

Long time user, seldom commenter.

I am in total agreement.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Shadowmuse Blown on April 10, 2020, 07:35:12 PM
I would be happy to keep the same posting limits for the General Discussion forum, that of no more than 8 posts in a 12 hour period, but apply that not just to image posts but to all posts, regardless of whether or not they have images on them.

I do agree that the posting (mine included) can be a bit excessive (although my posts are almost always image related) at times. I have seen posts from 9 in the morning be on the third page by late afternoon, or worse. A lot of these replies are just a couple of words.

In my opinion, you will kill the forum if you do that.  Once upon a time you’d have over a dozen regulars putting in their two cents, with threads getting pushed back several pages sometimes.  So what?  That’s what an active, living breathing, forum is all about.  There may only be a few people who do this now, but why does it harm you?  Often, I look forward to seeing the little interplay and comments.  I seriously doubt if anyone is doing it just to keep a thread alive.  And if a reply is long and rambling?  Guess what?  I don’t read it!  It’s so easy just skip it if you’re not interested.  I mean, someone else may like to read it!  This forum is for everyone, not just those who like to post pictures.  I love to pop in and out throughout the day and see what someone has commented on.  When I come back after a few hours and I see the forum looking exactly as I left it, I think: DEAD.

 IS IT REALLY SO TERRIBLE TO HAVE TO GO THRU THE PAGES? 

Seriously, if you curtail people’s number of responses, I will lose rapid interest here and I think, so too, will many others.  It would be a damn shame.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: MaxBigfoot on April 10, 2020, 08:28:47 PM
I only come into the forum once a day on weekdays.  I post 8 picture posts a day.  If non picture posts are forbidden, I will not be able to comment on anything.

Also, I'm a little frustrated that everyone keeps saying all the posts are disappearing off the front page, when you can go to your profile, select change profile/look and layout, and change the topics and messages to display per page to 50.  As I said, I only come here once a day on weekdays, and with this setting new posts RARELY take over 1 and a quarter pages to go through.

To me, people doing too much commenting, when I'm using these settings, is a non-issue.   >:(
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: rtpoe on April 10, 2020, 08:45:55 PM
I agree with Shadowmuse and Max.

And how hard can it be - how much time do you waste - looking over a page to find which threads are actually of interest to you? One is not being forced to check out every thread with a reply.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: solvegas on April 10, 2020, 08:55:01 PM
I see some of the complaints and I feel that I'm being targeted. if anybody ever bothers looking at the forum statistics, I'm number two in the amount of time spent on this forum. I like coming here and I read all the new entries that are posted in every section and if I feel there is something I can contribute I will add a post to it. If not, I don't. Yes, there are some threads in which I make photo and comments additions in which the model, performer or fellow fan like Beshine, Lady Llelwyn, Charade, Anri, Hitomi and others in which I want to add and see going back on top. Of course, there are some models who I personally don't like to look at but others do so I'll leave that thread alone and let others enjoy it. To each his/her own. As for limitations, if I remember correctly, you could post as many of your own copyrighted work as you wish and morphs and one in a 24 hour period of a model site such as Beshine. I try to keep within these parameters. It seems though that now, as I'm reading the last few entries, that there seems to be a movement to drastically limit the posts and therefore the fun of this place. I can't see anything positive coming of this. :(
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Bombayduk on April 10, 2020, 09:07:38 PM
^I agree with SMB; what is the point?  To discourage interest?  I don't post on a lot of threads, however, I would like to think I am free to reply to questions or comments without worrying if I am going to exceed some arbitrary limit that serves no purpose.  Clearly, if you find your favorite thread on page 3 or 5 or 10, it just means people are engaging in this forum, which is the purpose I would think.  If we don't want threads moving downward, we should limit posts to one a month or one a year; see how stupid that sounds?  Threads move secondary to either interest or lack thereof.

The purpose of any forum is to talk about things of of common interest, yet people want to limit talk.  So how successful would a forum be if you eliminate posting?  I find it ironic that the people who virtually never post want to limit posts; what could possibly be their rational objective?  If you have trouble finding your favorite thread, there is a search in the right upper corner; use it.  If you are dismayed because your favorite thread is buried far back, maybe it is because you don't post or maybe it is because there are literally over 2000 threads and your favorite is of less interest to the active members.

It probably affects me a lot less than some others who find interest in multiple threads, but I find the entire concept counter productive.  On some days, when there is some back and forth on a thread, it is very possible to reply maybe four times in a couple hours; there goes half your permissible posts, just being friendly or answering questions.  There goes any camaraderie; wait for tomorrow to reply.  Limiting interaction will only result in loss of interest; it is just common sense.  Eventually, the BEA will be just like the other failed big boob sites, no participation, only here, it will be mandated.

I try to abide by the rules here, as stupid as some are.  I mean, seriously, who created an algorithm that censors totally innocuous words?  Everyone decrys it and yet no one fixes it.  How many common, everyday words are banned?  I can understand models may want to limit their paid material, but I have seen members get dinged for posting pictures from social media.  We have an extensive list of rules already. why discourage participation to the list?  I certainly don't see the members that are actually active here asking to limit their participation, only people that virtually never post.

Which bring me to lurking.  I was a member in the forum when the BEA started.  Though I was absent for more than a decade, on occasion I would check out threads.  If there were limits on posting, the threads would unlikely have had the same degree of banter and information.  And throughout all that time, I never once came here and had the audacity to ask active members to post less so finding a thread would be easier.   

Here's an idea, 13 threads fit on the first page, so pick the top 13 active ones and delete all the rest.  Sure, they may be threads that 99% of people are interested in and they will stop coming here, but the thread moving problem is solved.  When you bring a solution to the point of absurdity, sometimes you realize how stupid the solution was to start.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: BElover on April 11, 2020, 05:09:25 AM
I find it amusing that users complaining about some folks posting too much are users that have like 40 posts in 10 years. I don't have a problem with lurking, but don't come out of the woodwork bemoaning activity levels when you don't make any activity at all.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: TheZookie007 on April 11, 2020, 05:32:18 AM
I would be happy to keep the same posting limits for the General Discussion forum, that of no more than 8 posts in a 12 hour period, but apply that not just to image posts but to all posts, regardless of whether or not they have images on them.

I think that would be a horrible idea. Not only because it unnecessarily throttles participation in this Forum but also because it is an onerous imposition on us all. Who has time to do all these complicated calculations? Of what use is it? How does this improve the interaction here? On the contrary, it diminishes it. And it is entirely disingenuous and destructive of non-contributors/near-perpetual lurkers to hype this rule, when they will end up not even being effected by it. They remind me of the disinformation campaigners for Brexit; now that the SHTF and yet they are still members of the European Parliament, benefiting from Brussels while their countrymen suffer.

Anyone who is complaining about their favorite thread being pushed down by others: that's why we have a Bookmarks function. And you can set it so that the Bookmarks page is displayed by default. Any thread that has a "NEW" icon next to it, you can click on it to see the latest, and you can ignore the rest.

I concur with my esteemed colleagues BElover, Bombayduk, solvegas, rtpoe, MaxBigfoot and Shadowmuse Blown. This proposed rule change is counterproductive, serves no useful purpose at all, defies all logic around building and maintaining community, and is only going to be the deathknell of a Forum that has outlasted so many others by a couple of decades now. It ain't broke, so this "fix" is unnecessary. Please.

Speaking of broken, the attachments limit still has not been repaired. Perhaps instead of this horrible proposal TPTB should consider restoring it to its former more-than-adequate limit.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: solvegas on April 11, 2020, 05:47:43 AM
^ Not only should the attachments limit be fixed but increased to 5 MB so we could have better gifs and MP4 entries. :)
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Dolf on April 11, 2020, 05:58:39 AM
Funny to follow this dispute. Being used to imageboards I enjoy the slowness and the general discipline of the posters staying on topic in this forum very much. Just adjust your settings to keep it well-arranged and if someone derails a thread, report them so moderators can look into it. As long as we do not get overtly meta discussions, everything seems fine.

The file size limit is a more serious issue, whereas the word filter is always good for a laugh.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Bombayduk on April 11, 2020, 08:38:56 AM
I totally concur about the file size being broken and unfixed for months.  Whenever I resize a picture down or capture a video screen shot, they are always in the 2-3mb size which used to fit just fine.  Now I go through more editing and resizing just to try to try to get a image to size.  And someone, why not address the stupid censor algorithm; even the mods get bleeped on occasions.  We can say any of George Carlin's 7 dirty words, but get censored for common words used in polite society?  Seriously?  Seems that I have to always be mindful of the way I am forced to word sentences, like I am a **09**.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Meatman on April 11, 2020, 07:56:09 PM
I know it’s been suggested before but a like button would at least cut down on the useless one or two word replies.
“Wow”
“Great”
“She’s amazing”
“Thanks”
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: MaxBigfoot on April 11, 2020, 08:27:15 PM
^I agree, Meatman.  My theory is that since the forum doesn't generate any revenue for the BEA, the owner is not willing to update the forum software.  This would also explain why the file size limits haven't been returned to the old limit, or even increased.  It would cost to add the memory to the servers that would be required.   :P
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: bignatslover on April 14, 2020, 08:25:51 AM
Just wanted to add that, despite the challenges of running a site as big as this one is and despite that we are enjoying it for free, it is disheartening to see the attachment size to be so limited and for the standards to be getting only stricter in terms of post frequency.  This is at a time where storage space is cheaper than ever, and has largely followed the predictions set out by Moore's law (https://antranik.org/using-moores-law-to-predict-future-memory-trends/).
 
This is also at a time where other forums can handle attachments up to 100 MB in size (https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=13467601).
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Nimrod on September 16, 2020, 09:57:46 PM
I just realized that I am still on page 3 of the most posting users, while just below 2000 postings. This place has slowed down...
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: solvegas on September 16, 2020, 11:05:16 PM
I just realized that I am still on page 3 of the most posting users, while just below 2000 postings. This place has slowed down...

Not surprised. After all, we have lost busy members like Palomine, Sadistyk and Gonzo and others like Shara, Goober and Munchwolf for example only visit once in a while and they were all very active in the past. So yes, the BEA pace is like walking on sticky tar nowadays.  :P
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: 3deroticer on September 17, 2020, 03:48:58 AM
I am not surprise really. The moderator in the past played mind games. I have experience with them telling me that they are on my side but that the other mods want to get rid of me, and then the other mod would say the same thing that its the other that want to get rid of me. Then one day Sarenna Lee ask why I stop chatting with her, and I show her the message I got from one of the moderator that I need to stay away from Sarenna because I make her feel uncomfortable. They are not here anymore, but that kind of game playing leave a bad taste for a lot of people. Mainly I feel this is a right wing moderator, and that's where most of the beef come from politically. The only place I know where you can get ban for pointing out mean things about things that Trump do. Then one day Sarenna stop coming in, because of something that happen in here with the mod berating user, instead of talking to them like humans. Things may be slow, but they are sure a hell of a lot better than they were and maybe just need more time for people to see that change? Still have political issues where one side vehemently spew hate and categorize one side as evil with no restraint. Glorifying hate toward one group still a problem. The biggest beef that Sarenna and others have is having the mods put words in your mouth while purposely misrepresenting the person to make them look bad. That to me is rightfully not forgivable, however I have had moderator send me a note asking if its alright to re paraphrase the comments in order to be compliant with the rules, and that's understandable, and it was done not out of intentional malfeasance.

 I really haven't felt comfortable to post BE animation that I make. I post where I hope that person doesn't see it. I tried to avoid the bullies.
I also notice that we lost a few liberal creative artist in this site. I don't think this site could survive without the artist contribution.
Solvegas, you just list many of my rabbit piling bullies. My blood pressure went down a bit!
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: MunchWolf on February 01, 2021, 02:09:55 AM
Not dead yet

-Munch "I think I need to post once a year just to say that ... wonder why today is so special .... oh yea, it's my 50th bday" Wolf ...
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Hiram on February 01, 2021, 03:17:16 AM
oh yea, it's my 50th bday" Wolf ...
Happy birthday. 50 is a special one.
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: TheZookie007 on February 01, 2021, 04:08:19 AM
The big 5-0! Happy birthday, Munch!
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: MunchWolf on February 01, 2021, 07:54:08 AM
it would be more special if we weren't in a pandemic

-Munch "already checked off the colonoscopy a few weeks back" Wolf
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Breasts on February 01, 2021, 10:46:46 AM
Happy Birthday Munch! Long time no see!
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: MaxBigfoot on February 01, 2021, 05:05:08 PM
Happy birthday, and it's very nice to see you around again, Munch!   :D
Title: Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
Post by: Nimrod on February 01, 2021, 09:58:29 PM
Happy 50th Mr. Munch man. Kithara and I wave in your general direction.
Do try and stop by from time to time to keep this place on their toes.

It feels like it has been 15 years since we last saw you... ;D