Post by: gOOber on March 10, 2009, 01:17:37 PM
The bitter irony is that no one I know consumes LESS sugar than I do. 
It's not all bad, the doc gave me a cute little toy to test my blood every day. 
It would be sweet if y'all could give some tips on living with diabetes.
Post by: Palomine on March 10, 2009, 05:12:05 PM
Added later: I'm attaching this pic only because of it's filename... I left it as found.
(http://forum.bearchive.com/files/702417-GoobersPeas143.jpg)
Post by: gOOber on March 10, 2009, 05:39:12 PM
The bad news is that I'll have to curtail my alcohol consumption. 
The good news is I already eat the diet for diabetics. 
Post by: 3deroticer on March 10, 2009, 07:05:36 PM
They keep repeating that stem cell may be the answer for the disease. My mom has it in her 60 and so I suspect that I may one day have it too, and she doesn't have a sweet tooth either, so sometimes it come down to DNA for disease. It is also one of the 60 disease related to weight issue, so again exercising can distribute the body more efficient and leaner, therefore reducing the stress load.
Post by: Q_BE on March 10, 2009, 07:45:27 PM
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gOOber said:
The bad news is that I'll have to curtail my alcohol consumption.
I'll happily drink whatever your avatar doesn't finish.
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The good news is I already eat the diet for diabetics.
It's not a diet, it's a LIFESTYLE.
Q-"Or so they say"-BE
Post by: solvegas on March 10, 2009, 09:24:55 PM
Post by: notty on March 10, 2009, 11:17:43 PM
Post by: IowaGuy on March 11, 2009, 03:25:35 AM
Iowa "Double Stump" Guy
PS: Keep a close eye on that bloodsugar, and make sure you follow the doc's orders. They might be know it all jerks, but in this case, that's a good thing.
Post by: Zorro on March 11, 2009, 08:01:28 AM
Other than that it is not too much to worry about because it becomes part of your daily routine.
I get all my meds from the VA (Veterans Administration) which is sort of like dealing with La Cosa Nostra. You go in alive and come out dead, but instead of your best friend doing it, a doctor who can not get malpractice insurance on the outside will state "Dead? Oh no....that can't happen here!"
Post by: MaxBigfoot on March 11, 2009, 01:46:22 PM
He had to take a blood test several times a day, and inject insulin. Unfortunately, he refused to stop doing things he wasn't supposed to do, and his health, and eyesight continued deteriorating. They started to have to cut parts of his feet off, and he was experiencing bleeding from various parts of his body, including inside his eyes and in his brain. I was a pallbearer at his funeral, he passed away at 47, the same age I am now.
Goober, please live right, follow what your doctors say.
I agree with the other guys you're an indispensable part of this forum, and I don't want another favorite poster go the way of others on the memorial threads.
Post by: gOOber on March 12, 2009, 09:13:44 AM
Post by: MasterDragonfly on March 17, 2009, 10:18:52 PM
So it might not be the best news you've had all year (and the year has only just started), but the diagnosis could have certainly been a lot worse.
One thing I don't know... can you drink coffee? Black?
Post by: gOOber on March 18, 2009, 07:02:57 AM
Post by: MasterDragonfly on March 18, 2009, 09:04:19 AM
I've got a link somewhere for some Japanese teas (chilled bottles) on an American's blog. Apparently he acquired quite the taste for them after living in Japan for a while, and managed to shed some unwanted weight in the process. I'll dig out the link, if interested. I know I've found the same brand in Whole Foods, and there are at least a few flavours.
Post by: pedonbio on March 18, 2009, 12:14:32 PM
It sounds like you've got a handle on it, gOOber.
Post by: gOOber on March 18, 2009, 01:22:24 PM
Post by: prinz on March 18, 2009, 10:27:06 PM
Post by: pedonbio on March 20, 2009, 01:24:33 PM
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Good luck to you Reb...My mother-in- law has had it for 25 years...she still kickin and been a pain the ass to boot!
Prinz, I keep telling you guys: Only marry orphans, dammit!
Post by: notty on March 22, 2009, 07:07:56 PM
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prinz said:
Good luck to you Reb...My mother-in- law has had it for 25 years...she still kickin and been a pain the ass to boot!
Prinz, I keep telling you guys: Only marry orphans, dammit!
That's the best advice I've heard on this board ever.
Post by: IowaGuy on March 23, 2009, 08:07:35 PM
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The doctor thinks I can control it by taking the medicine "Janumet". I think black coffee and tea without milk or natural sweeteners are good for diabetics.
Wait, wait, wait... they're giving you a drug named after a Shakespearean (Bacon) character?
Iowa "Thou art for diabetics" Guy
Post by: gOOber on March 23, 2009, 08:58:03 PM
Post by: Q_BE on March 23, 2009, 10:38:26 PM
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How do they come up with these drug names?
There's a drug for that: Namethemall.
I assume that's the drug that most writers in Hollywood are on these days, because they are all producing the same old shit.
Q-"It's secretly a placebo"-BE
Post by: Tugboatcap on March 24, 2009, 04:13:07 PM
Tugboat"I had to give up ICE CREAM, DAMIT!"Cap!
Post by: Q_BE on April 22, 2009, 04:22:47 PM
Q-"How do you hug a boat?"-BE
EDIT: This is a huggable boat--could it be you, TBC?
So Cute!
I can make you an avatarization of that picture if you're interested...
Post by: Tugboatcap on April 25, 2009, 03:56:53 PM
Tugboat"That thing is smiling at me and its scary"Cap!
Post by: BluePeep on April 28, 2009, 09:38:17 PM
Post by: pedonbio on August 31, 2009, 01:08:34 PM
Real tugs do NOT smile...
<img src="http://forum.bearchive.com/files/711177-YT151-17NOV1940.JPG">
Tugboat"That thing is smiling at me and its scary"Cap!
I know it's for kids and it's part of the "Tommy The Tank Engine" stuff, but really, that is one scary beast.
Post by: SamV on August 31, 2009, 11:13:55 PM
People generally develop type II diabetes (that's the kind where the cells in the body have grown insensitive to the insulin hormone produced in the pancreas) simply due to a genetic predisposition to do so. It's why type II diabetes tends to run in families, and the reason that certain ethnic groups (Native Americans and blacks, for example) tend to have very high incidents of the disease. It also tends to go hand in hand with developing high-blood pressure, and high cholesterol levels, in what some doctors call "metabolic syndrome". If you tend to put on weight mainly about your waist giving you what is usually called a "beer gut", then you have a greater likelihood of developing it. The best way to prevent developing it if it is present in your family is to watch your weight and to maintain an active life-style.
By the way, the other type of diabetes (Type I) seems to be the result of an auto-immune response where for some not yet well understood reason the cells in the pancreas that produce insulin are attacked by the body's own immunity defenses resulting in their destruction. Once those insulin producing cells are gone a Type I diabetic must go on insulin replacement therapy to control their blood sugar levels. That's the reason why all Type I diabetics must take insulin, but in general a Type II diabetic does not.
Goober - I would suggest, if your doctor hasn't already, that you attend a diabetes education program, where you can learn all about how to best manage the condition. Most hospitals usually have one, but if you can't find one, check with your doctor or heath care provider to see if they can refer you to one.
As has been pointed out in a few of the posts the consequences of being a diabetic can be quite serious if you don't get control of the thing. But take it from someone who was first diagnosed as a Type II almost 30 some years ago - it is possible to live a good long life with diabetes causing very few problems as long as one manages to keep their blood sugar under good control. The meter your doctor gave you is your first tool in doing that. The other is making a few changes in your lifestyle to bring down your weight if you are carrying more than you should. In some respect being a diabetic is a blessing since it forces you to do the things that you should be doing to live a healthy life. Good luck in getting your life in control. ;)
Post by: gOOber on September 01, 2009, 12:31:02 PM
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Post by: espy on September 08, 2009, 11:16:37 AM
I went to the endocrinologist Friday and my blood sugar could not have been better, my cholesterol could not have have been better, my blood pressure could not have been better and I have lost 30 pounds. As a matter of fact, I`ve gotten so healthy and sexy, I may have to chase much younger women. 8) ;DGood to hear, Goober!
Please clarify, though... "much younger women" = 20-something? 40-something? 60-something? Other-something? :P
Post by: gOOber on September 08, 2009, 11:50:25 AM
Good to hear, Goober!Of legal age and not a first cousin. ;D
Please clarify, though... "much younger women" = 20-something? 40-something? 60-something? Other-something? :P
Post by: pedonbio on September 08, 2009, 12:29:14 PM
Of legal age and not a first cousin. ;D
I love it!
Post by: Q_BE on September 08, 2009, 04:22:44 PM
Of legal age and not a first cousin. ;DI love it!
Then, hopefully, you don't live in HicksVille, USA.
Great news for you, Goober! I'm so happy our resident Pic-o-Matic is doing so well and can continue on his merry way! Keep it up!
Q-"Hi, I'd like to date someone outside the family!"-BE :P
Post by: homevintner on September 08, 2009, 05:36:13 PM
Post by: BustArtist on September 11, 2009, 09:33:06 AM
I went to the endocrinologist Friday and my blood sugar could not have been better, my cholesterol could not have have been better, my blood pressure could not have been better and I have lost 30 pounds. As a matter of fact, I`ve gotten so healthy and sexy, I may have to chase much younger women. 8) ;D
All right, gOOb! (Woof! Woof! Woof! Hand pump) That's great to hear! I've been able to get my cholesterol down from 275 to 199, and my triglycerides down from 375 to 175. (Watching my sugar, as it runs on my father's side, but OK so far there!)
Post by: pedonbio on July 11, 2012, 08:37:39 PM
Went to see my doctor this afternoon to get the official news. I've been putting off this visit for four months; last time I was at the People's Liberation Socialized Medicine and Old Magazine Clinic, Doc had me get some tests, and I can read the results. I know that a hemoglobin glucose level of 5.9 or below is good, so when it's over 9, it's not good. So she sends me to some classes, writes me a scrip or two, and tells me to get my butt in gear.
I guess I have to get off this eating binge I've been on for the past 60 years or so. And I have to start treating my pancreas better than I treat my ex-wives.
Ho-hum.
gOOb, I am now officially in the club.
Post by: gOOber on July 11, 2012, 08:57:20 PM
Post by: Chelsea74 on July 11, 2012, 09:00:03 PM
It`s not all bad. I work out at at a gym every day and it really does keep my blood glucose under control. The best part is all the eye candy. ;)
Melissa Dettwiller(early Years?)?
Post by: gOOber on July 11, 2012, 09:15:46 PM
Melissa Dettwiller(early Years?)?Yep, but I see many hotter than her. :-*
Post by: gOOber on July 17, 2012, 06:24:39 PM
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Post by: gOOber on July 18, 2012, 05:55:43 AM
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(unless you're in the middle of a myocardial infarction of something).Unless she is pressing her boobs against my arm. ::)
Post by: pedonbio on July 18, 2012, 10:37:58 PM
No single measurement is particularly significant
Except for 0/0. That's significant.
Post by: solvegas on July 18, 2012, 10:54:38 PM
Except for 0/0. That's significant.
Yea, that's a real bummer. ;) ;D
Post by: pedonbio on December 18, 2012, 05:25:10 PM
It`s not all bad. I work out at a gym every day and it really does keep my blood glucose under control. The best part is all the eye candy. ;)
Well, maybe I should start working out at gOOb's gym. Regular walks and watching my food has got my A1c down to 6.5. It is interesting to see which foods are high in carbs. My second career as a baker is on the rocks.
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Post by: gonZo on March 28, 2017, 04:25:56 PM
DOCTOR (walking into examination room): Hi.
ME: Hey. How are you?
DOCTOR: Pretty good.
ME: And how am I?
DOCTOR: Diabetic.
Damn. Can't smoke, drink, or eat anymore. No vices left except for cursing, gambling, and perversion.
Post by: gonZo on March 28, 2017, 04:27:14 PM
Post by: solvegas on March 28, 2017, 10:51:26 PM
I went online and read about what to do and I finally found something I could live with. The problem with diets is that they do not work for 95% of the people. All calories are not the same. As a diabetic, your real enemy is ... sugar. Not only the sweet stuff like granular sugar in a packet but that which your body naturally changes into sugar like carbohydrates. The other thing is portion control. Eat well but don't stuff yourself. So I no longer consume much of anything made with potatoes, rice or wheat. So I only have once in a while French fries, steamed rice or bread for example. Portion control means teaching your stomach to be satisfied with less.
The first 3-4 months were rough since it is hard not to eat pasta or sourdough bread for example and of course, not going to the buffet. But I got used to it and now, if I eat more than usual, my stomach hurts. And eating mostly meat ( which I love ) means the carbs are not missed that much. The result ? I now weigh between 160 - 162 pounds ( 73 Kilos ) , I sl3ep much better, I feel younger and I'm able to perform sexually again. Not too bad for a 60 year old man. I don't use insulin any longer and I can keep my sugar levels in a normal range. My cholesterol is at 85 and my blood pressure is at 105/60 at 51 beats. I do moderate exercise, mostly walking up and down the hill I live at and not overdoing it. And like Gonzo I remain a pervert. So it can be done if you want to change.
Am I really healthy ? Not really. Just like a car that suffered a large accident, you can take it to the body shop and they can make it look good BUT that car will never be as good as when it came off the assembly line and people are the same way. I have permanent nerve damage on the bottoms of my feet and while they are no longer discolored like they used to be, I have to daily inspect them to make sure they are no cuts or wounds on them to prevent infection. My joints hurt in cold weather and eating anything with sugar makes my blood sugar spike horribly. So diabetes can be controlled but it can't be cured. Once you get it, you are cursed for life.
Post by: Hiram on March 29, 2017, 01:04:11 AM
I'm diabeticMy Grandma was a diabetic, she died in 1972. I'm just curious how you take insulin? She had to have injections done at home, my mother used to do it. But I assume things have moved on now.
Post by: solvegas on March 29, 2017, 07:48:23 AM
I'm diabeticMy Grandma was a diabetic, she died in 1972. I'm just curious how you take insulin? She had to have injections done at home, my mother used to do it. But I assume things have moved on now.
I don't use insulin anymore. The weight loss plus not eating sugary stuff and minimizing carbohydrate consumption has eliminated the need for it, thank God. I do still use Metformin pills but a couple of pills a day is a lot easier and pleasant than injecting insulin. I used to self inject using a insulin pen needle system. They are pre-loaded cartridges with markings and all I had to do was screw on the disposable needles, measure quantity and inject. Then throw away the needle and put the cartridge back into the refrigerator. I still monitor my sugar with the testing kit at least three times a day.
Post by: gonZo on March 29, 2017, 02:54:06 PM
Post by: solvegas on March 29, 2017, 09:50:40 PM
Thanks for your comments, Sol; they'll help me put this into perspective. I'm a little too far gone to be classified as pre-diabetic, but I'm not in too much trouble at this point. Doctor offered a choice of drugs or diet/exercise, and I'm already on too many drugs for other conditions, so I'll make a go at handling it through diet and exercise first, and see whether that's working in six months.
I tell people that congratulate me that the voyage, in this case, is never ending. You simply can't go back to the way you were. You will have to modify your life, your behavior and accept that there is no end. At 60 years of age you simply can't eat like a 20 year old. If you have caused damage to your body like I have, you change, period. And I don't count calories because counting calories is bullshit, a fool's errand. A thousand calories from pasta will affect your body completely different than a thousand calories of meat. I've lost 80+ pounds and I eat plenty of meat. Your body, despite what vegetarians/vegans think, was built to consume meat. Otherwise like cows all of our teeth would be molars and our stomach would number four instead. Our bodies were not built to consume food constantly like we do now but more intermittently. We consume much more than we need because we have figured out how to eat whenever we want and the supply is practically endless. Our bodies were designed to go for long periods without food and we have the ability to eat a lot because we may need the sustenance during the inevitable bad times. Agriculture now is so efficient that obesity is the problem, not hunger. So I suggest you read up and find out what will work for you and stick to it. Don't think that what works for me will work for you because we are all individuals and one size does not fit all. And don't lose heart, be positive. :)
Post by: Hiram on March 30, 2017, 01:43:13 AM
You simply can't go back to the way you were. You will have to modify your life, your behavior and accept that there is no end.This is the conclusion I came to a few years ago. I see people my age carrying on like they are 25, but I think this is a mistake - they'll regret it.
I don't drink any alcohol now as I don't don't think my body will cope with it like it did when I was 20. Like you say, once you get to your 50's and above (I'm 54) you have to change your ways permanently.
The only thing I would say abut red meat is the amount of saturated fat in it. I love red meat, but eat it rarely now, instead I eat fish or maybe chicken. I've cut out coffee more-or-less, I have a cup a day, but mostly I drink black tea.
The best thing I did to get some exercise was to get rid of my car - I realise that isn't possible for everyone, but it has worked for me.
Post by: solvegas on March 30, 2017, 07:21:52 AM
The best thing I did to get some exercise was to get rid of my car - I realise that isn't possible for everyone, but it has worked for me.
Impossible for me. Las Vegas does not have a very effective mass transit system and the city is very sprawled out. My commute to work is 22 miles one way from home and the city bus would take way too long to get there. And about red meat, only massive portions in a constant daily manner are harmful. Like anything else, moderation is key. Remember, poison is only poison in the right dosage. Broccoli has cyanide which is deadly for insects but not for man. Why ? Because man is hundreds of times more massive than insects.
Post by: Hiram on March 30, 2017, 08:21:43 AM
And about red meat, only massive portions in a constant daily manner are harmful.Although, if you look at places that have very low hearth decease they eat very little red meat. I will only eat red meat once a week at most. And, I suspect there are other substances in beef that make it undesirable for health like steroids.
You just can't go wrong with fish.