[MasterDragonfly]

Did Space Ghost use his shrink ray on that one, Itfields?

Mod edit: use right-click/open in new tab to get the full size image. -Pal


Yeah, that doesn't work for us Mac users.

Worked for this Mac user. On Safari, no less.

[arflech]

It's a full-sized pic, scaled down with HTML; just save it to your desktop and open it to view it in full-sized glory.

I think I remember one of the members here having an avatar like that too; it looked small but unscaled it was the size of the screen and that's why it took so long to load...

[gonZo]

Or for Firefox, drag the image to the new-tab button on the tab bar for full-size new tab goodness.

This also works in Safari for Macintosh! Cool!

[Shara]

This also works in Safari for Macintosh! Cool!

also on chrome while we're adding

[Glottis]

While on the derail, may I ask why the pictures are resized? As arflech pointed out, we are still downloading the full-size image, it's just presented in an inconveniently small size. I understand automatic resizing to a point, but the pictures are just ridiculously small on this forum.

[gonZo]

Attachments larger than 400x400 pixels are scaled proportionately to fit into a 400x400 space for display.
Attachments smaller than 400x400 and all linked images are scaled proportionately to fit into a 120x120 space for display.

The thumbnailing was installed to make image-heavy forum pages load faster. Three different scripts are accomplishing it, we don't know which script is doing which thing, and we doubt the admins could fix it.

[arflech]

Attachments larger than 400x400 pixels are scaled proportionately to fit into a 400x400 space for display.
Attachments smaller than 400x400 and all linked images are scaled proportionately to fit into a 120x120 space for display.

The thumbnailing was installed to make image-heavy forum pages load faster. Three different scripts are accomplishing it, we don't know which script is doing which thing, and we doubt the admins could fix it.

That's a completely different issue: In that case, if you tried to save the image instead of saving the link-target, you actually get a smaller image; server-side thumbnail generation does make forum pages load faster, but client-side HTML scaling does not.

[gonZo]

arflech, please scroll back to message #176 and examine the displayed picture file. As I wrote, there are three scripts doing the resizing, and they're not all doing it the same way.

[ltfields]

Any chance we can get linked images scaled to 400x400 as well?  Or does that require the same amount of Script-Fu?  


Good suggestion, but any changes have to be made by the admins, which narrows the chances of getting it done. Compounding that, it's probably safe to say that nobody knows or remembers which scripts do which parts of the thumbnailing.

[Glottis]

so... I'm not trying to be a dick, but using that HTML attribute doesn't make the page load any faster. It just tells the page to display it resized to a smaller resolution... it still has to download the whole image. If you look at the properties of each image loaded that way, they have the same file size as the full version. Perhaps I'm completely misunderstanding something here, but I think you need to have some kind of server-side script to save and resize the images in order to actually save bandwidth, which doesn't make any sense if the images are being stored on another website anyway.


To repeat myself, differently-sized/attached images are handled by different scripts, some of which are more efficient than others. Thumbs for attached images over 400x400 pixels are created and stored server-side, but they're converted to png format for display, so they're often larger (bytewise) that the unscaled original files. We know we need something better, but getting it will be difficult for a number of reasons.

So yeah, this forum software isn't very good at displaying images, and after we discovered that, the admins installed a couple of modifications to fix it, but those actually just made the thumbnailing even weirder.

[Q_BE]

Perhaps these off-topic posts should be moved to the "Image Auto-Resizing" thread, dear Gonzo?

Anyway, I thought the "Image Attachments" sticky thread was designed to take care of this problem, at least for one thread per day. The point of that thread is for you to attach something that would otherwise be auto-resized, so as to take the forum code for the attached image (which would normally display in a pop-up window) and copy/paste it into the specific post you want it to be displayed full-size.

A funny aside to that is that if you are not logged in, the attached pictures that are rendered as images using the previously-described methods will not appear, seeing as how the forum does not display any pictures in any format (except images hosted on other sites) to non-users. For certain browsers, that will mean seeing a big, fat, "X" image, while for others, it simply won't show.

Q-"All about making the BEA image experience better"-BE

[ltfields]

I'm okay with doing the attachment method, I'll make a point to use that going forward.  It's just some extra steps.  If any scripting gods volunteer their time to fix the code, we'll all be eternally grateful (almost as much as we are grateful for boobies...)