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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #405 on: January 19, 2023, 03:32:05 AM »
I’m tempted to say she’s a 30G/GG, but she looks really slim in the back, so possibly a 28H.
I think I saw her height somewhere  - ah yeah here it is, it says she is 5' 8".  She is taller than I thought.
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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #406 on: January 19, 2023, 11:53:26 AM »
I’d also be asking for a leaning bust measurement, and a lying bust measurement
Ah, that is interesting.  What are you looking for in this - is it an estimate cup volume?  One of of my favourite charts (attached) has a column for volume.   One, (impracticable) way of assessing breast volume is to lower the breast in to a volume of water and measure the displacement with the Archimedes Principle.  I'm surprised someone hasn't come up with a easy way of doing this for boobs - especially women who are asymmetrical chests. 
 
I’d also want to know what bra size the person is currently wearing (and, preferably see how that bra sits on them)
That makes sense. Something I'd not thought of.

I’ve heard of this theory of displacement to measure volume, but I’m not sure how useful it is. All it tells you is how much fluid or matter is in the boobs. It doesn’t tell you anything about the shape, projection, roots or curvature. Also, the shape of breasts is impacted by rib cage etc. It’s more of an art than a science.

It’s far more useful to do a visual assessment - because every woman is different; a woman at 5’6” could be a 28 back and a J cup, but another woman at 5’6” could be a 36 back and a C cup. I have a friend who is 6’1” and has relatively small boobs, and another who is 6’2” and has the biggest boobs of all my friends (KK).

The only thing I can think of that might improve bra fitting is some kind of 3D scanner or LIDAR System. Maybe that’s not too far off.

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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #407 on: January 20, 2023, 03:56:10 AM »
The only thing I can think of that might improve bra fitting is some kind of 3D scanner or LIDAR System. Maybe that’s not too far off.
I think it already is. Naomi Wu had one done on her YouTube channel.  It wasn't for a bra fitting, but the tech I think would work.

https://archive.org/details/youtube-9Cv-Ylv8mg0

Today Margaret I don't have a size question - but what do you think of this bra (attached)?  I think it looks nice, not sure it is practicable - I guess it would be tricky to identify the brand?

Another question: as we know most women have asymmetric breasts.  But some women have quite different sizes left to right - how do you size and adjust a bra for a women who isn't very symmetrical or a woman who has had a mastectomy?
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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #408 on: January 20, 2023, 04:05:18 AM »
The only thing I can think of that might improve bra fitting is some kind of 3D scanner or LIDAR System. Maybe that’s not too far off.
I think it already is. Naomi Wu had one done on her YouTube channel.  It wasn't for a bra fitting, but the tech I think would work.

https://archive.org/details/youtube-9Cv-Ylv8mg0

Today Margaret I don't have a size question - but what do you think of this bra (attached)?  I think it looks nice, not sure it is practicable - I guess it would be tricky to identify the brand?

Another question: as we know most women have asymmetric breasts.  But some women have quite different sizes left to right - how do you size and adjust a bra for a women who isn't very symmetrical or a woman who has had a mastectomy?


another who is 6’2” and has the biggest boobs of all my friends (KK).
Almost Amazonian.
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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #409 on: January 20, 2023, 12:45:53 PM »
The only thing I can think of that might improve bra fitting is some kind of 3D scanner or LIDAR System. Maybe that’s not too far off.
I think it already is. Naomi Wu had one done on her YouTube channel.  It wasn't for a bra fitting, but the tech I think would work.

https://archive.org/details/youtube-9Cv-Ylv8mg0

Today Margaret I don't have a size question - but what do you think of this bra (attached)?  I think it looks nice, not sure it is practicable - I guess it would be tricky to identify the brand?

Another question: as we know most women have asymmetric breasts.  But some women have quite different sizes left to right - how do you size and adjust a bra for a women who isn't very symmetrical or a woman who has had a mastectomy?

It’s a Victoria’s Secret Unlined 3-Piece Full-Cup Bra - which you can’t get any more. There’s a smaller version of it available on their website, but I don’t think they do this one any more. It’s a perfectly good, supportive bra - as long as you get it in the right size. But I’d be more inclined to recommend other brands.

In terms of boob differentiating sizes - almost every woman has diffeeent sizes of boobs, even if it’s only a slight difference. Although, sometimes it’s noticeable. There’s no a lot you can do about it in bra terms, because bras are made symmetrical. You can pad etc, but it’s one of those things you have to just do your best with. Same with mastectomies - although, there’s lots of help there in terms of fillers, silicone prosthetics etc - which all work wonders. I’ve helped a few women (and men) out with this sort of thing in my time.

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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #410 on: January 21, 2023, 04:18:09 AM »
There’s no a lot you can do about it in bra terms, because bras are made symmetrical. You can pad etc, but it’s one of those things you have to just do your best with.
This probably comes down to cost - I suspect there would be a way of making separate adjustments to each breast, but adding extra fasteners or Velcro is extra work. 

Same with mastectomies - although, there’s lots of help there in terms of fillers, silicone prosthetics etc - which all work wonders. I’ve helped a few women (and men) out with this sort of thing in my time.
I'd forgotten about prosthetics, although coming to website like this I should have known better.

You've talked before about the fasteners on the back of a bra - normally 3 hooks.  This bra (attached) has 4.  I can't see how busty the woman is, but on a normal sized woman - would this make the bra more supportive.  Or is it likely to add to discomfort with more material  rubbing the skin?
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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #411 on: January 22, 2023, 04:34:28 AM »
There’s no a lot you can do about it in bra terms, because bras are made symmetrical. You can pad etc, but it’s one of those things you have to just do your best with.
This probably comes down to cost - I suspect there would be a way of making separate adjustments to each breast, but adding extra fasteners or Velcro is extra work. 

Same with mastectomies - although, there’s lots of help there in terms of fillers, silicone prosthetics etc - which all work wonders. I’ve helped a few women (and men) out with this sort of thing in my time.
I'd forgotten about prosthetics, although coming to website like this I should have known better.

You've talked before about the fasteners on the back of a bra - normally 3 hooks.  This bra (attached) has 4.  I can't see how busty the woman is, but on a normal sized woman - would this make the bra more supportive.  Or is it likely to add to discomfort with more material  rubbing the skin?

Well, it’s a bigger band, so it’s naturally going to need more hooks and eyes, because they distribute evenly across the material - but also, bigger bands need more reinforcement. Remember: the back band does the heavy lifting, so it needs to carry a lot of weight.

This is also potentially a longline bra (I’d have to see what it looks like at the front). I absolutely love longline bras - but they’re not for everyone. There’s more material, and they sometimes curl up at the front and on the back band. Lingerie is like that - there’s some items that some women love, and some women just can’t wear them. I have tried and tried with basques/corsets and I just can’t do it. I can’t do suspender belts either (but I can do suspenders on a bodyshaper). I love bodyshapers and longline bras - there’s a snug, tight feel to them that you don’t get with just a bra set. But for everyday wear, a well-fitting bra can’t be beaten.

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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #412 on: January 22, 2023, 05:40:42 AM »
This is also potentially a longline bra (I’d have to see what it looks like at the front).
I  only have the one pic - I'd have like to have seen the front as well. 

I absolutely love longline bras - but they’re not for everyone. There’s more material, and they sometimes curl up at the front and on the back band.
I just did a search for longline bra and I think I get the concept.  This is why I like to love your posts - I had no idea there was such a type of bra.

Lingerie is like that - there’s some items that some women love, and some women just can’t wear them.
I do like lingerie - not sure I'd like to wear it though.  Experiencing it not only online but personally it doesn't look comfortable to wear.  I love the feel of stocking, it is such a lovely material to touch.  I have an older sister, and I distinctly remember the sight of popsocks everywhere when I was at home.  Like mini stockings. Ah, and the smell of nail polish remover...

I have tried and tried with basques/corsets and I just can’t do it. I can’t do suspender belts either (but I can do suspenders on a bodyshaper). I love bodyshapers and longline bras - there’s a snug, tight feel to them that you don’t get with just a bra set. But for everyday wear, a well-fitting bra can’t be beaten.
Corsets look particularly uncomfortable, almost masochistic.  Suspender belts seem only really good in the bedroom - again, love the look and how they shape a woman's body, but I can see how impractical they'd be in everyday life.  I'd imagine you'd be constantly having to readjust them each time you stretch or bend down.   

Bodyshapers look comfortable - almost like a modern version of the girdle but with better material.
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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #413 on: January 22, 2023, 10:03:17 AM »
This is also potentially a longline bra (I’d have to see what it looks like at the front).
I  only have the one pic - I'd have like to have seen the front as well. 

I absolutely love longline bras - but they’re not for everyone. There’s more material, and they sometimes curl up at the front and on the back band.
I just did a search for longline bra and I think I get the concept.  This is why I like to love your posts - I had no idea there was such a type of bra.

Lingerie is like that - there’s some items that some women love, and some women just can’t wear them.
I do like lingerie - not sure I'd like to wear it though.  Experiencing it not only online but personally it doesn't look comfortable to wear.  I love the feel of stocking, it is such a lovely material to touch.  I have an older sister, and I distinctly remember the sight of popsocks everywhere when I was at home.  Like mini stockings. Ah, and the smell of nail polish remover...

I have tried and tried with basques/corsets and I just can’t do it. I can’t do suspender belts either (but I can do suspenders on a bodyshaper). I love bodyshapers and longline bras - there’s a snug, tight feel to them that you don’t get with just a bra set. But for everyday wear, a well-fitting bra can’t be beaten.
Corsets look particularly uncomfortable, almost masochistic.  Suspender belts seem only really good in the bedroom - again, love the look and how they shape a woman's body, but I can see how impractical they'd be in everyday life.  I'd imagine you'd be constantly having to readjust them each time you stretch or bend down.   

Bodyshapers look comfortable - almost like a modern version of the girdle but with better material.

I’m not certain it is a longline, but it certainly looks like it might be one - it has all the hallmarks.

I have a Curvy Kate Carmen longline (see: http://brasandbodyimage.com/2015/07/03/loving-longlines-curvy-kates-carmen/#more-3858) - which I’ve had for years, and it’s a terrific bra. The back band is huge on it, which takes some getting used to, depending on your torso shape etc. I also have a few others (CK Gin Fizz and a few Parfait ones) - they’re not “go to” bras, but they work well with certain outfits.

I definitely prefer a bodyshaper - I used to have an amazing one with detachable suspenders, which fit me perfectly - but they’re so hard to find now. I tend to buy clip-on suspenders from eBay now (or I get clip-on suspenders custom-made) - if I’m wearing them with a bodyshaper. I don’t often wear stockings though - they tend to be annoying, and you spend half the night adjusting them.

Wearing lingerie is basically a necessity; you get used to it (weird things happen when you don’t wear any), and “special” lingerie takes even more getting used to (and usually only gets worn for sex, for a short period of time). It’s like wearing shoes though; once you find your rhythm with whatever item it is, you gravitate to your favourites. I tend to prefer a good, supportive and comfortable bra set, tights, a bodyshaper (very occasionally with stockings), longline bras - and, once in a while I’ll wear something in the bedroom that puts a bit of fire into proceedings.

But, I can tell you this: sex in a corset isn’t nearly as fun as it looks in porn videos.

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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #414 on: January 23, 2023, 11:50:26 AM »
I have a Curvy Kate Carmen longline which I’ve had for years, and it’s a terrific bra. The back band is huge on it, which takes some getting used to, depending on your torso shape etc.
Just looking at the photos I can see that.  You'd think a thicker band would give more support - but the distribution of fat and muscle in the back seems to not really allow for it.

they tend to be annoying, and you spend half the night adjusting them.
I have enough trouble with longs socks - I can only imagine what stockings are like.   Actually, my dad used to have leg suspenders for his socks - they were a thing many years ago.

Wearing lingerie is basically a necessity; you get used to it (weird things happen when you don’t wear any)
Yeah I guess we're adaptable as humans, we do get used to things - high heels look amazing and really shape a woman's thigh - but jeez they've got to hurt. 

I'm curious about what weird things can happen if you don't wear any?  I suspect things would get pretty weird for me if I did!   Here's a confession - a friend gave me a French maids dress I think she got at Ann Summers - not sure what size it is - 10 or 12. I tried it on once - ha if fitted me perfectly.  It wasn't comfortable though - can't imagine having sex in it.

lingerie takes even more getting used to (and usually only gets worn for sex, for a short period of time).
Well I'd like to thank you and all the women out there who are happy to wear some lingerie to please men - even of it is for a short time (quite short in my case).  A woman said to me once, why is it she has to buy all this expensive lingerie - when men don't have too.  I thought this was a very good point. Something I'd not thought of.  I'm happy to buy it all now. 

and, once in a while I’ll wear something in the bedroom that puts a bit of fire into proceedings.
I wish all women were like you Margaret.

But, I can tell you this: sex in a corset isn’t nearly as fun as it looks in porn videos.
I kinda wince to think how uncomfortable it is for women.
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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #415 on: January 23, 2023, 11:51:41 AM »
Today's challenge is to identify this bra?
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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #416 on: January 23, 2023, 01:22:53 PM »
Today's challenge is to identify this bra?

I’m afraid I’m not great at this. I know some bras just by look and pattern etc, but some are just hard to identify. It looks like it could be a VS bra, but I can’t say for sure.

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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #417 on: January 24, 2023, 11:32:01 AM »
It looks like it could be a VS bra, but I can’t say for sure.
I thought it looked nice being semi-transparent.  I guess the correct word is opaque.

Okay, I wonder if you could comment on this lingerie picture.  Am I right in thinking you have your underwear over the suspenders and not under them?  Has this lady got it wrong!
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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #418 on: January 24, 2023, 12:23:00 PM »
It looks like it could be a VS bra, but I can’t say for sure.
I thought it looked nice being semi-transparent.  I guess the correct word is opaque.

Okay, I wonder if you could comment on this lingerie picture.  Am I right in thinking you have your underwear over the suspenders and not under them?  Has this lady got it wrong!

Haha. Yes - you put the panties over the suspenders (try getting your knickers down in a hurry when you have a suspender belt and stockings in the way). Most women learn this from lingerie catalogues (or websites) - or by accident. It’s one of the reasons I’m not keen on suspender belts. I mean, they’re utterly gorgeous items - I often covet them, and then spend money on them - only to find that I never wear them for longer than about 40 minutes.

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Re: Challenge Margaret bra size estimation/bra whisperer thread
« Reply #419 on: January 24, 2023, 09:09:59 PM »
It looks like it could be a VS bra, but I can’t say for sure.
I thought it looked nice being semi-transparent.  I guess the correct word is opaque.

Okay, I wonder if you could comment on this lingerie picture.  Am I right in thinking you have your underwear over the suspenders and not under them?  Has this lady got it wrong!

Haha. Yes - you put the panties over the suspenders (try getting your knickers down in a hurry when you have a suspender belt and stockings in the way). Most women learn this from lingerie catalogues (or websites) - or by accident. It’s one of the reasons I’m not keen on suspender belts. I mean, they’re utterly gorgeous items - I often covet them, and then spend money on them - only to find that I never wear them for longer than about 40 minutes.

That is one of the huge differences between ladies' suspenders and men suspenders. Women, since they are the pretty sex, wear such pretty lingerie which emphasizes their femininity and are just so much more pleasant to look at than men with their utilitarian underwear which is non descriptive. Women use frilly and pretty clothing while men is just ... meh.   ;) ;D