[KMAR]

I've been an off again on again member of her site for along time and for the past year or so she has updated so infrequently that I must warn you all that it is not worth the $$. I bet some Petra-heads will come out the woodwork to chalenge me. I'm still a fan of hers but must warn the world to save your money.

[DJPFC]

I don't think it's a ripoff if you haven't been a member in a while, but it's definitely not a recurring membership sort of site as she hardly ever updates anymore and the videos (which are always my favorite) have dwindled down to one or two per YEAR, which is not good.  

I'm a huge Petra fan and we've been trying to get her to shoot with us for years but someone in her forum summed it up perfectly: "four updates in the last two and a half months?  If I worked at that pace at my job, I would have been fired a LONG time ago."

[jayteee]

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I'm a huge Petra fan and we've been trying to get her to shoot with us for years but someone in her forum summed it up perfectly: "four updates in the last two and a half months?  If I worked at that pace at my job, I would have been fired a LONG time ago."

Uhh.. it was kmar that said that in her forum.  You're especially brilliant, aren't you?

I find it interesting that the owner of pinupfiles.com, who wants Petra to shoot for him, and is supposedly a fan himself, would repeat anything so cruely negative and inaccurate in a public forum.  It doesn't reflect well on you, sir.

For the rest of you guys out there, PetraCentral is run and operated by Petra.  Yes, sometimes the updates are less frequent than she would like, but that's not the rule, that's the exception.  She's not some huge corporation, she doesn't have a staff and she also doesn't put up just any crap she has lying around.  She does quality shoots, with quality photography, yielding quality images.  She does live, weekly chats with her members.  She maintains a semi-daily diary.  She does all she can to keep her members happy.  Not everyone is going to be happy with everything, no matter how many galleries or videos are posted... guys like kmar will always complain, that's what they do.  PetraCentral is a quality site, with quality content, new galleries at least three times a month (which is same as most other model sites) and the personal touch and warmth of Petra herself.  Petra is an incredibly beautiful lady, and she's so nice.  All that and the site is less expensive than most other sites.  I highly recommend it.

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[doggo]

Woooah, guys, hang about! A slanging match isn't going to help anybody. kmar will no doubt claim that I am another Petra-head leaping to her defence. I'm neutral. I never really heard of her before. But while I might conceivably agree with what kmar says, I disagree absolutely with his right to say it. Such a mischievous post, based as it is on opinion, can cause disproportionate damage and is wholly unnecessary.

There is so much at odds between kmar's and jayteee's statements that someone is possibly being selective with the facts.  

PetraCentral's update pattern must be a matter of record. Quite possibly you're both right, as far as you go. No doubt Petra is aware if she has fallen behind her intended rate of updates. Perhaps she needs to explain things to her fans and members who, after all, only want to see more of her. If she is currently doing it all herself, she should consider asking for some help. It's a bigger job than some folks think. It's a full-time job.

[DrHyde]

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I'm a huge Petra fan and we've been trying to get her to shoot with us for years but someone in her forum summed it up perfectly: "four updates in the last two and a half months?  If I worked at that pace at my job, I would have been fired a LONG time ago."

Uhh.. it was kmar that said that in her forum.  You're especially brilliant, aren't you?

I find it interesting that the owner of pinupfiles.com, who wants Petra to shoot for him, and is supposedly a fan himself, would repeat anything so cruely negative and inaccurate in a public forum.  It doesn't reflect well on you, sir.

For the rest of you guys out there, PetraCentral is run and operated by Petra.  Yes, sometimes the updates are less frequent than she would like, but that's not the rule, that's the exception.  She's not some huge corporation, she doesn't have a staff and she also doesn't put up just any crap she has lying around.  She does quality shoots, with quality photography, yielding quality images.  She does live, weekly chats with her members.  She maintains a semi-daily diary.  She does all she can to keep her members happy.  Not everyone is going to be happy with everything, no matter how many galleries or videos are posted... guys like kmar will always complain, that's what they do.  PetraCentral is a quality site, with quality content, new galleries at least three times a month (which is same as most other model sites) and the personal touch and warmth of Petra herself.  Petra is an incredibly beautiful lady, and she's so nice.  All that and the site is less expensive than most other sites.  I highly recommend it.

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Although I respect your opinions, I think you're being a bit biased here. I've been through Petra's site and the update frequency is quite a bit lacking. I do appreciate the fact that she runs the site personally, but some help would be to her benefit. Three times a month quite frankly is very poor and should be looked at with intense scrutiny when choosing her site to join. DJ's sites (save for pinupvideos, which I'm not familiar with) update every 4 days with almost no problems. Other sites such as Nadine's update every 2-3 days. God forbid sites that are massive and ran by multiple people such as Scoreland and Playboy which can update sometimes every day. Kwar's post should be debated, but not dismissed. He didn't personally attack Petra, in fact, he still enjoys her, but the site's updating. If a site has terrible updating, regardless of quality, then I'm inclined to agree with him.

[jayteee]

Calling the site "a ripoff" in a public forum such as this, (and who says that this is the only forum KMAR is participating in) is akin to helping to shut her down.  For someone that "still enjoys" her, that's pretty stupid behavior.  I'd say most people would call him a jerk.  Again, allow me to interject that her site is run by Petra, herself.  That includes having to deal with less than ideal personel situations at times.  This year, Petra had some seriously bad things happen... To cite a few of them, Petra broke her wrist rather badly.  In fact, she had pins sticking out of her skin and a cast on for months (kind of wrecks the whole modeling thing).  She was in a lot of pain.  She suffered and site suffered.  No duh.  Hey, guess what, if you were her, your site would undoubtably suffer a bit too under the circumstances.  Her best girlfriend had a stroke.  Petra helped to reabiliate her as much as she could.  Her relatives from holland came over to stay for longer than expected.  Her best friend's mom was in the hospital for weeks and almost died.  These things, all of which happened over the past year, may seem trivial to some of you, but they are a big problem when you don't have a staff of people working on your website.  All in all, she did an amazing job under the circumstances.  You have to cut the girl some slack and posts such as KMAR's should not go unchallenged and I even wonder if they should be allowed here.  I, personally, am very happy with PetraCentral and again, I highly recommend it.

[DrHyde]

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Calling the site "a ripoff" in a public forum such as this, (and who says that this is the only forum KMAR is participating in) is akin to helping to shut her down.  For someone that "still enjoys" her, that's pretty stupid behavior.  I'd say most people would call him a jerk.  Again, allow me to interject that her site is run by Petra, herself.  That includes having to deal with less than ideal personel situations at times.  This year, Petra had some seriously bad things happen... To cite a few of them, Petra broke her wrist rather badly.  In fact, she had pins sticking out of her skin and a cast on for months (kind of wrecks the whole modeling thing).  She was in a lot of pain.  She suffered and site suffered.  No duh.  Hey, guess what, if you were her, your site would undoubtably suffer a bit too under the circumstances.  Her best girlfriend had a stroke.  Petra helped to reabiliate her as much as she could.  Her relatives from holland came over to stay for longer than expected.  Her best friend's mom was in the hospital for weeks and almost died.  These things, all of which happened over the past year, may seem trivial to some of you, but they are a big problem when you don't have a staff of people working on your website.  All in all, she did an amazing job under the circumstances.  You have to cut the girl some slack and posts such as KMAR's should not go unchallenged and I even wonder if they should be allowed here.  I, personally, am very happy with PetraCentral and again, I highly recommend it.

Alright then, if this was the case, why didn't you previously mention it? People are a little more sympathic to this than "she updates her site personally." It's easy to see why she hasn't updated much, but this should be made public to guests as well that updates will less than normal due to problems in her life.

[doggo]

 

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Calling the site "a ripoff" in a public forum such as this ... is akin to helping to shut her down.

Yes, it was totally out of order, as I said earlier.

Petra deserves some sympathy for all she's been going through. I'm sure she realises that while she is sitting on a pile of her subscribers' money she does owe her customers an explanation. If they are told what is happening, and offered a free extension to their membership, they will understand. And surely she can find someone trustworthy who can help her keep the site rolling along?

[Dingus]

Calm down there big guy, we're all friends here.
All those things you explained are absolutely reasonable excuses for not being able to maintain her site at the level that people expect but you should have stated those reasons in your first post rather than go attacking people.
 
DJPFC has said this about Petra in the other thread floating around recently.
"I'm a huge Petra fan as well and PetraCentral.Com is a great site -- she does it all herself and she really takes care and pride in the photos and videos."
So it's not like he's going around attacking her so cut him some slack.

That's a hell of a first two posts you've got

[DJPFC]

Jeez, take it easy... what was cruel about what I said?  I was just wishing for more updates, especially in the video area.  I think she did all of two new videos in 2005 and I think she could do more.  I don't think that's asking a lot because they're not that hard to do.

I also didn't know that the guy I quoted was the same guy from her forum.  Forgive me, but I have other things to do besides memorize the screen names of her fan base.  I was using that as simply an illustrative way of saying that I don't think her updates are frequent enough, that's all.


Please remember I'm saying this from the POV of being a fan.  Petra is my all-time favorite Playmate, hands down, and I know very well what a sweetie she is.  I was one of her charter members all the way back when her site was PinupGirls.Com.

Also, please don't take the fact that I think she should update more as an attack on her, because it's not.   I also don't think I said anything inaccurate, either.  If anything, you're the one being innaccurate by claiming that what I said is an attack against her -- read what I wrote, because that's NOT what I said in any way, and I resent you presenting it otherwise.

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Uhh.. it was kmar that said that in her forum.  You're especially brilliant, aren't you?

I find it interesting that the owner of pinupfiles.com, who wants Petra to shoot for him, and is supposedly a fan himself, would repeat anything so cruely negative and inaccurate in a public forum.  It doesn't reflect well on you, sir.
 

[jugghead]

First, let me say that Petra has been my favorite playmate since I first became aware of her.

That being said, let's remember that a pay website is a business. Now, at my place of business we are constantly under intense customer scrutiny. We consider ourselves lucky for the fact that we can get instant feedback from our customers. And quite honestly, our customers don't give a damn if one of the people in management's mother just died. They expect our business to compensate.
If I were Petra I'd welcome the kind of feedback KMAR offers. It's one of the things that makes capitalism so successful.

But on a more personal level, I wish Petra better success. God, she's gorgeous!

[jayteee]

Guys, PetraCentral is running just fine at the moment.  Which makes me even more curious about KMAR's post.  And it's great to hear all of your wishes for her success and understanding of the past year that she's endured.  If I came off as out of line, I apologize, but KMAR's post infurated me to the nnth! degree as I know Petra, and she's so damm nice, and undeserving of having somebody talk like that behind her back  in a public forum and potentially sway business away from her site.  She just doesn't deserve that.  And what I said in my earlier post is accurate.  Three galleries a month, (she tries for more, but three is about average), she chats every week, she keeps her diary... and yes, in her diary she told everyone about everything I mentioned in my previous posts, including photos and x-rays of her wrist and even photos her relatives from Holland.  And the thing about it is that her site is only fifteen bucks a month.  It's not like a 99% of the sites out there at $19 or $29 a month.  For fifteen bucks, you get three galleries, her diary, chats, occasional videos (and the videos are fairly well done), she answers her email as much as she can.  She's very sweet.  She gives you more contact than the average model, IMO.  

Here's one - she doesn't have a list a things she wants for Christmas posted on her site, which I find to a be very low class tactic that I've seen on other models' websites.  In fact, she has posted a short list of gift ideas as suggestions for the men who aren't sure of what to get for their girlfriends and wives.  She's nice like that.

I think we have this settled then.  My parting comment would be that anyone considering joining PetraCentral shouldn't hesitate.  It's not expensive, she's beautiful, the photos are big, clear and tasteful, and she gives a lot of herself.  Give it a try.  There's no reason not to.

[docra840]

does anyone have a subscription to petracentral.com?  If so, I have some questions....

can you access all of her petracentral sets, starting with the first ones from 1997-8?  And does she provide her old pinupgirls.com sets?  Or has anyone asked her for them?

I've looked ALL over the internet for her pinupgirls pics, the ones from 1997-8...if you ask me those are the best pics of her ever done(see attached pic to marvel at how full and voluptuous her breasts were back then).  I've managed to find a couple CSV's for pinupgirls, but I have no idea as to how one can actually get to these collections and find them.

I'm not asking for the pics, just wondering if they're gone forever or not.  It seems near impossible these days to find those pics of her, seems every old website dedicated to her has been shut down.  So if anyone has any good info, or just want to comiserate with me, lemme know.

[DJPFC]

she has nearly all of her sets up on the site, which is a ton.  However, she did remove some of the very, very early sets (like the ones of her with the white backdrop that were the first ever) and there's definitely nothing from her PinupGirls.Com days.  She updates with fair regularity although her new video updates have sadly dropped to around 2 per year.  (yes, I said "per year" that's not a typo).

Her photos are great and very well done, however and she even has some well known glamour photographers do her photos sometimes.

[docra840]

thanks for the info man, I appreciate it. so no pinupgirls.com sets? damn...  I've spent a while trying to track down them all, they used to be circulated regularly on the alt.binaries.pictures.petra-verkaik newsgroup, but that group's dead now.  I've managed to find a portion of her pinupgirls sets, with a little patience and clever searches you can find some, but I'm still dying to get the remainder of them.  Somebody should make a site, those pics are too good to not be on the internet.