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HellbillyEcono

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I'm talking in the US now. I've read quite a bit of Vixen's post( damn, that is a big post!!) and saw about how they can be purchased from Europe, and then if you get the proper paperwork from the FDA, you need to find a doctor. I was curious how easy and/or hard is it to find a doctor to do this in America. I am also curious if there are doctors who are perfectly legally able to perform such an augmentation, but refuse to based on some moral issues and self-righteousness( which is already invalid since they are after altering the body through surgery even without going to huge sizes).

I guess this is primarily for people like Melonie Charm or vixxen who've had extensive dealings but I'd love to hear from other people, too, maybe even any doctors' opinions if they are available.

 

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ValorPhoenix

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I know about it in a lot of venues, but the FDA bit is kind of tricky. Basically it's the 'experimental procedure' route, which a number of doctors would be uncomfortable with.

You'll notice that Vix's doctor is a big bust fan, so he's well aware that big imaplants work. Your average doctor isn't.

There are online resources that will list breast augmentation surgeons in your area. I was at one just two days ago looking for pricing info to keep my info up to date.

Researching your potential doctors here is fairly important. Going to Vixen's doctor or someone like minded may be for the best.  

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melonie_charm

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Well, there are really several different issues involved.  The first is actually obtaining a "compassionate use" approval from the FDA.  This requires that the plastic surgeon be willing to invest his own (unpaid) time and effort to file for this special FDA approval ... time that could be spent putting 300cc implants into an extra housewife or two.

Second, a "compassionate use" approval does not equal an FDA device approval, which foreign made implants of any size will not have.  Without an FDA device approval, no hospital or clinic will allow a medical device to be used on their premisis, as they are bound by FDA rules for medical facilities.  Therefore, any plastic surgeon wishing to implant foreign made implants will also need to have invested beaucoup bucks into his own private surgical facility (which is not subject to the public medical facility FDA rules).  This fact alone probably rules out 3 out of every 4 plastic surgeons.

Third, many plastic surgeons belong, or seek to belong, to the ASPRS and to become "board certified" - primarily as an advertising tool/higher fee justification for housewives.  The ASPRS severely frowns on "experimental procedures" being done by its members, and might very well deny membership to a plastic surgeon who has done large foreign breast implants.

Lastly and perhaps most significantly is the unavoidable issue of medical malpractice insurance cost.  The actual cost that an established plastic surgeon must pay for this insurance is based on past history of lawsuits, as well as records of surgeries performed.  Since large implants inherently have a higher complication rate due to the greater degree of skin stretching, the greater distribution of existing vascular system etc. a plastic surgeon risks having to pay astronomical future insurance premiums if a large implant recipient with complications should officially raise a complaint or a lawsuit.

If you put all of these factors together you can begin to understand why very few US plastic surgeons are still willing to work with large foreign made implants - particularly for new patients.  In fact, some of these factors have now become so negative and that at least one plastic surgeon who had been willing to work with large implants in the past has stopped doing them.  It is getting to the point where even doctors who are big boob lovers themselves cannot afford to indulge their favorite surgical subject, because they can't afford the potential negative impact on their balance sheet if they wind up in court or wind up paying an extra 100 grand a year in malpractice insurance or if they have to charge every housewife $1000 less than the doctor down the block because they can't become "board certified".

Assuming that you have made it past the above obstacles and have located a doctor who is willing to work with big implants, you now have the issue of having the big implants custom made.  Both of the well known companies who are willing to make big custom implants are located in France.  So in the first place you have to communicate with them, inform them of what size implants your doctor thinks are proper, and what type (i.e. silicone, saline, adjustable, double bag etc.).  Then you need to pay up front to have three custom implants made (gotta order your own spare).  Custom made implants are not exchangeable or refundable.

3 or 4 months later your custom implants are ready - in France!  You now have the issue of arranging for importing them into the USA, paying appropriate customs duty etc. and hoping that they actually arrive without damage and without breaking the sterile packaging.  This task is much more complicated than it used to be due to increased US customs inspections after 9/11.  When I ordered my first set of 3 custom made implants several years ago, one was found to be leaky on the operating table, and the second failed about 3 days after my surgery.  After another 3 months of waiting and the cost of two more custom made implants and a second surgical fee, I finally had a "working set" and a spare (implant company is not responsible for damage done in shipment or customs inspection).

Lately, it seems that some girls are avoiding these problems by simply travelling to France to have the surgery done.  There are no FDA implant approval or importation issues to deal with if a French plastic surgeon does the surgery in a French medical facility using French implants.  The tradeoff is, of course, that the doctor is 4000 miles away should problems develop down the road.

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Unique_Package

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Mel, you didn't once work as a nurse (NR or LPN) did you?  You definitly have it down on the formals of it all.

Hugs.  

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melonie_charm

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Respiratory Therapist actually (Licensed in NY and NJ!).  I quit though after contracting TB from exposure to an infected patient and being forced to draw and handle AIDS infected blood samples.

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Unique_Package

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I thought that I remebered you did something like that prior to the career change.

I just read a book called "Take back you Time" (timeday.org) and there is a great chapter on how messed up the work environement is for health worker today.  Short staffing and forced overtime and the like.  Are you glad you left give todays circumstances?  

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HeatherDavis

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There is a Dr in Lake Tahoe who does big implants, but is quite expensive.  I have had a few friends who went to him and said that it is well worth it though!!  

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vixen

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  All that I can speak from is my own experience.

Dr. John Yermian
818 780-7900
[email protected]
Van Nuys, California

He has a fantastic out-look about really, really, big implants.
"The patient knows what she wants."

He has gotten me...
800cc overfilled to 960cc.

1,000cc overfilled to 1,400cc

2,000cc silicones.

He has experience doin' very large implants.
If you're lookin' for some massive hooters, he's worth a check-out.

Big boobs are where's it's @ baby!!
  Vixen  
Big Boobies Overfilled With Love,
Vixen
<a href="http://vixenlamoore.com" target="_blank">http://vixenlamoore.com</a>

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the1_roadrunner

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Vixen,
My lovely Lady. Does Dr. John Yermian have a website? I did a search but couldn't find any info on him. Thanks for any additional info you may have. --RR

http://home.earthlink.net/~lentech/

   

*God Bless PETITE ladies with LARGE Breast Implants*
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ladies_Wanting_Large_Breast_Implants/

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MasterDragonfly

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Quote:

There is a Dr in Lake Tahoe who does big implants, but is quite expensive.  I have had a few friends who went to him and said that it is well worth it though!!  




I think you're referring to Dr Foster.  Judging by his home page, the price of $3,600 (for up to 765cc saline implants) seems quite reasonable, given that a price of $5,000 is fairly common, if memory serves.  Considerably more than that, in certain areas.

http://www.tahoeclinic.com/

I spoke on the phone back in August with someone from his office.  I don't remember her name, but she was quite helpful, and even sent me some hardcopy literature.  She was very positive about large implants, saying that Dr Foster does do them.  At the time, I didn't feel that there was much point trying to engage the good doctor in a hypothetical discussion about my fiancĂ©e's thoughts, plans and wishes, since I figured we were still months away from being in a position where we could get her started down the path to huge breast nirvana.  

But I would say that Dr Foster and Vixen's Dr Yermian have made the short list.  

Jim{ruby}  

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Keisha_Evans

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Hiya,

In regards to Dr. Foster, although I did not use him at the time of my first surgery, he has gotten excellent reviews from the people I talked with.  He told me several months ago that he could obtain 3000cc implants for me.  Of course by then it was a moot point as I already had the 3000ccs and was looking to go larger.  

On the downside, I wrote to Eurosilicone a few days ago to see if they knew of any companies willing to make even larger implants and was informed that they are no longer making "large" implants without prior FDA approval.  I'm not sure that that applies if you have your surgery outside the US, but if that had been in place when I got my implants I wouldn't have been able to get my implants.  The FDA told me that since I hadn't had any prior implants and had no medical problems that I didn't qualify for their "compassionate use" approval.  Luckily I found Dr. J in Houston to put the implants in (the only doc willing to even consider pumping me up to 3000ccs on my first surgery) but I had to go to France and get the implants myself.  Now it looks like that option is out, providing yet another stumbling block for those who want big breasts.    My current doc works closely with the FDA, so I'll have to ask him about this the next time I go in to see him.

In regards to other docs in the US willing to put in the implants, once you have them, I know there is one in North Carolina (I'll have to sift through my many email accounts to try to find his name.) and another in NY.  (I'll look up the website I found him on too.    )  

I still have no idea why the FDA should care how large I want my breasts.    If I sign a waiver saying I know what I am doing, I don't understand the problems.  *sigh*  It's a conspiracy, I tell ya.  

Keisha  
"There'll be time for introductions later, and maybe some sex. "

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MasterDragonfly

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Wow, you did 3000cc on your first surgery?    How on earth did you manage that?  I mean, I'm genuinely curious!  I can't imagine a woman's body taking implants that big the first time around.  (Well okay, maybe I *can* imagine it, and maybe I'd kinda hoped it.  Pft.   )

Seriously, how did you manage that incredible undertaking?

This could be just what the doctor ordered.  

Jim{ruby}  

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melonie_charm

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Quote:

On the downside, I wrote to Eurosilicone a few days ago to see if they knew of any companies willing to make even larger implants and was informed that they are no longer making "large" implants without prior FDA approval.  I'm not sure that that applies if you have your surgery outside the US, but if that had been in place when I got my implants I wouldn't have been able to get my implants.  The FDA told me that since I hadn't had any prior implants and had no medical problems that I didn't qualify for their "compassionate use" approval.


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Yes, this is a "fly in the ointment" in that the FDA's "compassionate use" exception to allow the importation of non-FDA approved large implants ONLY works if the girl who wants the "compassionate use" exception ALREADY has major league implants to start with.  I believe in Vixen's case the FDA accepted her application based on the fact that she already had 1400cc and was looking to go to 2000cc.

This FDA restriction of course does not apply if you have your implants put in by a European doctor and you bring them back across the border already "installed". However, this approach may now run afoul of the French implant company's policy since the person attempting to order custom made large implants is not a European citizen but a US citizen without an FDA "compassionate use" approval.

As to a "conspiracy theory", it's obvious that the FDA is obsessed with exercising their God-like authority in trying to only permit the use of 100% FDA approved US made implants by US surgeons.  When the FDA found themselves caught between a rock and a hard place, i.e. having previously allowed a few girls to get very large implants which no US implant company currently makes a replacement for, they apparently relented by instituting the "compassionate use" exception so that these few girls wouldn't be left without any future options.  However, it is very clear that they are trying to slam the door on any "new" girls getting implants larger than the 800-1000cc size range which are available from US manufacturers.  Kinda smacks of a "steel tariff" mentality, but without retaliation threats from foreign governments since so small a quantity of custom made implants is involved !  In the overall scheme of things, 99.999% of all US women wishing to get breast implants are totally satisfied with an 800-1000cc maximum size.  Since the French implant companies probably only made less than a dozen sets or less of large custom made implants per year for US girls anyhow prior to the new FDA rules, compared to selling 100,000 pairs of implants in sizes 1000cc and smaller to European women, the potential loss of the sale of 10 pairs of custom implants (if that many) certainly isn't worth creating an international incident the way the "steel tariffs" did.

Bottom line ... the probability of seeing any new American models with truly huge breast implants (i.e. larger than overfilled 1000cc implants which are available from US sources) just got even smaller than it already was !