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Thanks for everyone's help. My wife set up a consultation for Feb. 5th. She's very excited about it, waking me up at 6 am and telling me that a doc she emailed, emailed her back very quickly. She also greeted me at the door today with the good news about the consultation appointment. This woman is very excited about having large breasts! We did the "rice test" last night and she definitely commented that 500 ccs was too small and of the three tests, she liked the 700 ccs the best. I gotta tell you, the girl has GUSTO! The doc told her they do a Bennini(sp?) lift which isn't as intrusive as some of the other lifts. Now a NEW question arises, overs or unders??? At first it was unders because I heard that it doesn't block mammograms the way overs do. However, it sounds like having overs isn't that bad for mammogram checks and that you get faster results with overs rather than unders. So as soon as she nails down one decision (implant size), other questions arise. So thanks Melanie for the heads-up about the overs. Because she has excess skin this may be a better option for her. But I don't want it to get in the way down the road when she has breast exams. I know its good to be married to a woman not skittish about getting large implants!  

[melonie_charm]

Not to worry - at an 800cc size, being over or under isn't going to make a whole lot of difference in regard to breast exams.  The Binelli lift basically involves cutting all the way around her nipples in a circle, then cutting again about an inch or two farther out, then removing the "donut" of skin and stitching the remaining skin back onto the nipple.  If done correctly, this results in very little scarring.

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Thanks Melonie again for the great advice. Its looking more and more like 700 cc's, smooth, round, saline, over muscle, maybe a lift. Less than a week ago my wife and I knew practically nothing about breast augmentation surgery. But we are trying to learn as much as possible to be well informed because her consultation is only three weeks away. BTW, she's already starting to hear CRAP from people about this. She showed some pics of women who had BA surgery with large implants 600 cc's+ and had great results (large, full, rounded breasts) to her cousin and her friend. The cousin commented about how "freakish" the women looked and that they "looked like headlights". The friend asked her, "WHY SO BIG?!" Its good to know that both my wife and I love the look of large breasts on women (she told me the other day how she's always fantasized about getting breast augmentation surgery) and so will hopefully IGNORE these good-for-nothings. My wife commented tonight about what if they ARE too big after surgery? So the seeds of doubt are beginning to sow in her head. But she's a very stubborn woman and in the end she will go large. And damn it, I'm payin' for them and I want them large too! I guess it goes to show not everyone sees the allure of large breasts.  

[melonie_charm]

This is the "housewives shouldn't have tits bigger than D cups" paradigm that many doctors are leery of (potential malpractice suits), and which in fact most housewives subscribe to.  Your girlfriend will need to be very clear about the size issue during her consultation.

As far as the correlation between implant size and cc rating, lots of people make a natural but incorrect assumption that there is a linear relationship i.e. 750cc implants will be 50% bigger than 500cc implants.  In terms of cup size/implant measurements, however, the 50% increase in volume actually grows in three dimensions.  Mathematically, 750/500 or 1.50 = 1.15 height *1.15 width *1.15 forward projection.  Since only the forward projection actually contributes to cup size increase (height and width contribute to fullness and cleavage), 15% more forward projection from 750cc implants versus 500cc implants will actually amount to less than a cup size.  Similarly 1000/500 or 2.0 = 1.26 height * 1.26 width * 1.26 forward projection might amount to just about a cup size of increase, but a vast improvement in fullness and cleavage.  The fact that a 500cc implant might increase forward projection by 2 1/2 inches, while 1000cc implants will increase forward projection by 3 1/4 inches (2.5" * 1.26) instead of 5 inches one might expect on first impression, has been the source of great disappointment for many girls who have wanted larger breasts but didn't actually wind up with the cup size increase they envisioned. To actually achieve a 5 inch increase in forward projection she would need something like 500 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 2 or 2250cc (given the fact that at some point, implants have to stop getting wider and taller i.e. they adopt a higher profile in order to still fit on the human ribcage).

Also, when going by the "rice test" for sizing, it's important to simulate actual conditions as much as possible.  Also, have your girlfriend repeat the "rice" test while wearing a tight workout top to "contain" the implants, the same way her breast tissue will "contain" real implants.  This will give her a much more realistic idea of her actual post-surgery size.  Girls who merely shove rice bags or "sizer" implants in their bra, without "containing" them, are the ones who are usually the most disappointed in regard to post-surgery actual size, since the natural breast tissue will in fact force the implants to lay flat and there will be no "air space" inside the breasts.  

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Thanks Melonie for the wealth of info. Its strange that some women can jump several cup sizes with relatively small implants and sometimes large implants don't create the desired effect. So Melonie, a new question arises:

My wife wants large breasts (DD) that are very close together with a nice amount of cleavage, she dislikes the look of two large breasts seperated by a wide gap. Do you have any info on what kind of implant, size, etc. would work best for her? I read a transcript from a plastic surgeon who said that the amount of cleavage one can acheive is related to a woman's ribcage size. Is this true? To what degree? My wife measured her ribcage today and she is 32", the average woman is a few inches less than this (about 29"). How does a rather large ribcage effect the decisions one makes about Breast Augmentation surgery and her ability to get large, round and relatively close together breasts? I thank you again for helping my wife and I out on this important decision.

[melonie_charm]

a 32" rib cage, translating to a 38" bra band size, is indeed rather large.  With a large ribcage, it will require implants with a very large diameter in order to completely cover the width of her chest i.e. implants with a sufficiently large diameter to nearly meet in the middle of her chest to form nice cleavage.  I would recommend Mentor standard profile 800cc rated implants, which have the largest available diameter of any "catalog" sized implant, in order to create the best cleavage possible, and then overfill them by 20% or so to provide extra firmness for an improved "lift" effect.  Higher profile 700cc implants, typically Inamed McGhan, might actually result in a larger cup size than the 800cc Mentors, however the tradeoff in smaller diameter to achieve higher forward projection is likely to leave her with a 2" gap between breasts where her cleavage should be.

Of course if she had a more typical 27" rib cage translating into a 32" bra band size, then the diameter of the implant would be much less important and she would probably be able to achieve a 2 cup size increase with 500-600cc high profile implants without a resulting big gap between breasts.  But using these same 500-600cc high profile implants with a 32" rib cage / 38" bra band size will definitely result an unacceptably large gap between breasts.

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Well we measured her rib cage and it is indeed that size. Its looking more and more like she is moving to the 700-800 cc range now. She's said all along that all large breasts are not the same. We've seen women with large breasts but huge gaps in between them. This is her #1 fear and concern. She absolutely wants to avoid that. For her, its always been about having tight cleavage but she's been somewhat scared about big cc implants. But it looks like the only way she will acheive this look is to go that route. I give my wife a lot of credit. Although her friends and family are bombarding her with skepticism about what size breasts she wants, she is sticking tough. She told me that she DOES NOT care if MOST people don't find her "natural" and that when you see her that you will most likely know that she has had surgery (hence, the "unnatural" aspect of it). But she told me that she's not the "average" woman and what most women find excessive in breast size, she thinks is just fine. She's still not too sure about placing them over or under the muscle yet. But everyday we are learning more and more things.

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OK Melonie and others, I have some further questions. My wife who thinks she is a "38C" bought a "38D" bra today to start thinking about breast and bra size. Lo and behold the bra fit her PERFECTLY! Now she is not small breasted, she definitely has size to her but even I was surprised that she fit so well in this size bra. IF she has a "D" cup size already and gets 700-800 cc round implants how big will she BE? Maybe cause we both admire large breasts that hers right now appear smaller to us than to "normal" people. I showed her Visitor 12, this woman was a size F and my wife commented that she didn't appear THAT big. I could have swore that a week ago we looked at this same woman and my wife said she was too large. She said she may be getting used to seeing large breasted women. She's still pretty gung ho about the large implants though. Lucky me.

[melonie_charm]

This brings up another subject, the fact that cup sizes are not very standardized. In fact, one US bra manufacturer is notorious for using "vanity sizing" (labeling their cup sizes one size larger than they really are) to increase their bra sales.

To answer your question in regard to what cup size she actually winds up, the answer is "it really doesn't matter".  What DOES matter is that she achieve fullness, nice cleavage and a bit of a lift.  I agree that because of her larger than usual rib cage, it's extremely important that she go with the largest diameter implants her doctor can get his hands on - typically round Mentor 800s.  I also agree that to achieve an extra degree of firmness thus a lift effect for the future, the the implants need to be overfilled until that extra firmness is noticeable (perhaps to 950-1000cc).  If the actual cup size turns out to be a DD cup or EE cup or FF cup, what difference does it make ?

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Well, when we first began this little journey my wife was pretty adamant about being NO larger than a DD. But two things have happened since:

1) she's seen a LOT of breast augmentation photos and her perception about what is acceptable on HER has changed (its gone up)

2) your knowledgable comments Melonie, ESPECIALLY the rib cage comments. The single most important factor for her is CLEAVAGE. And it looks like the only way for her to get what she wants is to have VERY large implants.

So she's in a Catch 22 situation. If she goes too low on implant size she will have a large gap between her breasts (she doesn't want a bra to help push them together) but with large implants she's most assuredly going to be larger than a DD size (which was her max in the first place). I think she's willing to accept this outcome however. She's already getting used to the idea that after surgery there will be no bras around town that will fit her and that she will have to shop more online (I guess these kind of bras are expensive, but I'm paying for them anyway).
She's going to get a large DD bra tonight and we will redo the rice test to see if with larger implants she will be able to fit into them. I give my wife a lot of credit. She's incredibly brave about the whole ordeal. She understands she will get flak from people but she knows what she wants and thats a big pair of boobs with heavenly cleavage.  

[Silvereye]

Doc, I salute you and your wife for making this happen!!! I hope one day it'll be my turn!!!  

(I'd offer advice on implant size etc but I haven't a clue and what with the eternally beautiful Melonie around, you're safe and sound in her hands...... and bra!!!! Room for one more Mel? *vigourously raises arm aloft*)

All the best    

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Hey thanks Dealer. This is like a dream come true for me too. My wife has wanted to be large breasted for many many years. I'm not sure what started the conversation down this present road of getting breast augmentation surgery but its pretty neat that we both have the same taste in breasts; what we think are nice, large, attractive and acceptable on her (DD+) will be considered TOO big by many of our friends and family. But as she said she's doing this primarily for herself and me second. She doesn't give a rip what others think of her. I KNOW that if she goes with her current implant size (~800 CCs) she's gonna be pretty big, like head-turning big. The woman wants to be ogled. I guess its her desire to be desirable by many men. She's more ok with this than I am but I do trust her and know that she loves only me. But she does want to show off to everyone, so here comes the fun part. She wants to post pics of herself online after she's done with the surgery. She teased me the other day that she would like to post on this forum and I don't doubt her for a second. You may not get to see her face but I have no doubt that she will posting her new beauties on websites. The woman wants the attention! And her size will be right up this alley. I'm pretty proud of her. She and I are living in a real-life breast enhancement story. Its pretty freakin' cool!

[Starscream]

Dude, congrats with the wife's breast expansion. I'm just wondering what brought this on in the first place? Did you show her this site or something or was it just one of those random things you talked about in bed?

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I've known about this BE forum for a long time. My wife knows that I have a thing for large breasts and this is a good site. I really don't know where all this talk about getting surgery got started. I think she's known for a long time that I am attracted to large breasts but maybe was shy about asking me about the surgery. It isn't cheap. But heck I'll gladly pay about five grand to have a beautiful woman (already, even w/o the implants) made into a large-breasted beautiful woman (its like the cherry on top of the icecream). So she asked me a while back if I'd pay for her surgery and I said yes. What made this doable is that we now have the finances to do so. Yeah, we could use the money for other things but this is something I know we both REALLY REALLY want.
She actually looked at this very forum only a few days ago. Her concern was that she thought I was chatting on her in real-time with voluptuous women. I'm not doing that. I just know that there are some pretty good folks on here and knew I'd get some good advice if I posted on this site. My wife and I want to be as INFORMED as possible before the first consultation which is ONLY in a few weeks. She wants a certain look and wants to know how to acheive that look. She wants to know what to ask the doc during the consultation. She wants to stand up to him and tell her that she WANTS large breasts and she's aware of the consequences! In fact she'd rather end up TOO large than too small. I really do thank Melonie and others on this forum in helping us be informed before the big day when she goes under the knife.  

[Starscream]

Well, I wish you and your wife a lot of happy and fun times once she's gone through with all this. It's always fun to find someone who shares your passions, especially when she wants to forfill your fantasy for you and herself.

If you look at my sig, you'll notice I'm starting to get into the same boat with my girlfriend. She wanted to go bigger after viewing a few of the threads on this site herself the other day. So maybe one day I'll be calling on the help of Melonie and others (maybe even your wife) when my girlfriend goes under the knife (and I can pay for it)