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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2004, 08:47:21 PM »
Someone needs to get lonelyhearts into this thread ... he can set you on the straight and narrow

ok .. that was a joke .. truth .. talk with her .. tell her you consider attractive (which is what she is looking for .. reassurance that she is a hottie), but you also consider her family, and it would be wrong ...

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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2004, 08:51:41 PM »
Nathan, you only have to ask yourself one question.. "Will I regret this for the rest/most of my life?" If the answer is yes.. then go for it.. or be prepared to spend plenty of time dwelling on regets. Otherwise, if the answer is no, then you could do without getting involved with this girl. Also, how old is this girl.. and yourself? Is she old enough to consent?  
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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2004, 08:54:06 PM »
Munch, thats a bad recommendation.. you should have recommended him to the Professor of LonelyHeart's social class.. I'm sure he has plenty of insight,.. considering how LonelyHeart's story supposedly was a little project of his    
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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2004, 08:54:17 PM »
Okay Nathan. Since you are here I'll assume you are a legal consenting adult. Which brings me to the question since she is two years your junior: Is she? That may help solve your dilemna.
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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2004, 09:02:44 PM »
Be careful whatever you choose.

You made ruin a friendship that has gone on, from the sound of it, before you were born or it just maybe what the two families have been waiting for something to make them one family.  

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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2004, 09:44:20 PM »
You did -say- she wasn't your actual kin, right?  
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2004, 10:26:13 PM »
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Don't mind Uncle Whinky, apparently he completely missed the part of you and her not being actual relatives..  



The only thing I missed was your not having a sense of humor here!

Of course I got that part...that's what made my post funny, relatively (arg ar ar) speaking of course!!!!  Pay attention, laddo and remember...  


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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2004, 10:32:33 PM »
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Nathan, you only have to ask yourself one question.. "Will I regret this for the rest/most of my life?" If the answer is yes.. then go for it.. or be prepared to spend plenty of time dwelling on regets. Otherwise, if the answer is no, then you could do without getting involved with this girl. Also, how old is this girl.. and yourself? Is she old enough to consent?  




The problem is, regret works both ways.  Will I regret never doing anything now for the rest of my life, or will I regret doing something?

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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2004, 12:08:57 AM »
The safest bet? My I suggest that attempt some date-like activities with her to find out if she was kidding with you or was actually serious. Possible safe activities: movies, take her out to lunch, concerts, sporting events and the like.

I'm interested in hearing out this turns out for you if persue it futher...  

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Re: Like duhhh, any fool gets obvious HUMOR, fool...
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2004, 12:41:03 AM »
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The only thing I missed was your not having a sense of humor here!



No, I actually have one. The only joke you've managed so far is to constantly remark about lack of humor to any and all posts that disagree with you. But this is neither the time nor place for an argument.

Nathan, get more information, it might even turn out that you'll have nothing to regret in either case (especially if she isn't serious). The only thing I'd regret in your case is simply not knowing.  
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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2004, 02:45:52 AM »
I don't post too often, but I'll throw my $0.02 in here as well I suppose.

I would agree with the talk it out first idea.  My take on it would be to first ask your parents about the idea and see what their reaction is.  I personally would start with a question like, "How much like family do you consider them to be?"  Point towards the fact that you've found yourself developing fealings for her and see what insight and input your parents on the matter.

If that goes over in a sort of general "We (your parents) have no problem with it", then next move on to your aunt.  Approch the matter in a similar manner.  If that too goes over well, then comes the hard part.  The talk with the girl in question....

I would not just blurt out everything all at once.  No matter how she may currently feel about you, doing that would only make things go down hill from there.  Start off slow.  Start by discussing what has already happened.  Ask her what her thoughts are on how much like blood (sister, brother, 2nd cousin twice removed, what have you) family she considers you and her to be.  If her response is one of "we're cousins. how much more like family do you get" then you need to tread carefully.  Ask her if there were any motives/intensions behind her previous actions, and try to do it in as calm, serious, and gentle a manner as possible.  If her response is something to the effect of "It was just good clean fun" (pardon the mis-use ) then you have your answer.  There's nothing in it.  If there are feelings behind it, then you need to have a serious discussion.

That's the "We are family" side of the coin.

If she responds to the effect of "doesn't really consider you blood family", or "not realy close enough to warent too much thought on", then you've got a little breating room so to speak.  Ask her if there were any feelings behind her previous actions or whether just was just playing.  If she was just playing, then once again you have your answer.  If she wasn't playing, then you two need to have a serious disscussion.


The Discussion:

If it comes to the discussion, here are some starting points and things to consider:
1.) Explain that you think you might be feeling the same but you have doubts over whether on not it would be right and explain your source(s) of confusion and debate.  Try to convay and explain your conflicting morals and emotions as best you can, though try to avoid with great effort making it sound as though "your in torment over some moral issues and it's all her fault".
2.) Ask her to elaborate on feelings behind her actions and think about how she feels about you and whether she has an interest persuing ANY kind of relationship with you.
3.) Discuss your mutual feelings for each other openly.  If you've gone this far with no down turn in the discussion, do not try to hide your feelings.  Hiding feelings will arouse suspicion and that is DEFFINANTLY something you you don't want in a discussion of this type.
4.) BE HONEST, what ever you tell her.

If you still have doubts even after all of this, then have a group discussion, you, her, and her aunt, your parents, or both.  Heck if you really feel the need to (if your a religous person) get a rabbi/preist/minister/decon/leader of the faith and ask them some of your questions and see what they say, though unless you know where their veiws come from and have some sense of their own personal morals, take their advice with a grain of salt.  Some preist/ministers/etc. can have an overly paranoid additude to anything that might even be vaguely against the tennets of the faith.

The other thing to consider is if either your parents or her's respond badly to this notion, then you need to be careful in aproching her.  Wether they are set against it or not, you still need to talk to her and find out what her motives and feelings are on the matter.  It's just that if either or both of the parents dissaprove then she needs to know that just as much as you if there are any mutual feelings involved.  Because even if both parents are dead set against it, if you two really and honestly have feelings for each other, then there's always the possibilty that they might come around at some point and at least stop opposing it.  The phrase, "I may not like your decision, but it's your decision to make not mine." comes to mind .  But either way, you need to find out the oppinions and positions of ALL parties involved.

All that being said, I think the best advice is, take it SLOWLY, ask questions (and don't be afraid of asking or of the answers you might get), don't be afraid to tell the people around you how you feel if its acceptableness is in question, and be careful of what actions you take what buttons you press.


Of course there's alwasy the possibility that it's what Munch sugested
 
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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2004, 03:08:14 AM »
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Of course there's alwasy the possibility that it's what Munch sugested
 




Me ??? right???? never ....

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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2004, 03:26:30 AM »
Isn't all this emphasis on the 'family' angle nothing more than a red herring? Nathan, as you made clear in the first post, you are unrelated. Could it be that this 'uncle/aunt/cousin' thing is just the way you still think about them, and nobody else thinks that way?

Ages ago, my family had some close friends and -- I'm sure for my benefit only -- they were referred to as 'uncle' and 'auntie'. It was done that way so I'd have a way of addressing them and so I could file them in the right pigeonhole. Naturally enough, I thought of their son as my cousin. The crazy thing is that when I bump into him years later, I still have to say to myself, "I am not really related to this man!"

Maybe you are the only one who still thinks of this girl as your cousin. It's just that you've been brought up thinking of her that way. If she ever did think of you as a real cousin, she's now (conveniently?) forgotten the fact.

And if the two of you found yourselves getting into a more adult relationship, maybe both sets of parents would be overjoyed.

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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2004, 04:11:10 AM »
I agree.  Your parents are nothing more than old family friends.  One of the first things I thought after reading your post was that this sounds like a lot of those movies you see about two [censored] growing up together very close and thinking of each other as asexual siblings or something, until one summer they conveniently forget that at the same time and go for it.  Physical and possibly emotional attraction have obviously changed the way she views her relationship with you, and to her you are no longer a "cousin"; you simply haven't let the idea go.

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Re: -__-' Confusing Sighting...
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2004, 04:54:33 AM »
Has he told us if she's an adult yet?
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