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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #105 on: May 14, 2005, 06:07:20 PM »
I don't post here often but i read these threads thoroughly all the time. I greatly appreciate all the women who strive for very large implants, and I also greatly appreciate those who enable them to achive their goals, like Dr. Baeke and Suzanne.

A procedure for large implants (1000cc+) is likely to take far more skill to perform and comes with it's own set of additional possible complications, as well as the 'standard' complications that come with any BA. I'm not surprised that the costs involved are higher than a 'normal' BA. If you wanted a standard silencer (muffler) for your car you'd just go to the local garage for it. If however you wanted a custom job you'd go to a specialist garage to make sure it was done properly, and you would pay a premium for the service.

Bottom line, from what i've read on this forum Dr. Baeke is a very highly skilled and committed surgeon who ia able to perform high quality, custom work. Why shouldn't he charge more for his work when other surgeons cannot / will not attempt the same procedures? Both he and his staff should be applauded for their efforts. They are greatly appreciated by all here (well, nearly all. There's always at least one troll trying to cause trouble).

Suzanne, your presence on these forums is very much welcomed. I hope you'll continue to offer your knowledge and advice to those here who ask for it. Thankyou.

And just ignore the little turds that try to stir shit up. They're not worth your time.
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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #106 on: May 14, 2005, 07:14:05 PM »
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I agree according to what she posted. However, that is not the fact according to the multiple times me and a friend called. We both got different prices each time for the same surgery, ranging from 6 to 12,000.


What procedures were you asking for quotes on?

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I guess it pays to say the right thing when trying to promote business.It's the old bait and switch.



Why is it that women here that have actually gone under Dr. Baeke's knife have completely different opinions of the man than you do?  I wonder who we should believe...

Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #107 on: May 15, 2005, 02:42:40 AM »
little turds? I suppose you are challening my experience with these pretenders that act like they care just to promote business.Again, do your homework. This woman has 1 agenda only, to increase sales for hubby.Good for the girls Bambi Blaze stated maybe they have the budget but the rest of us see, or at least I do, exactly what is going on here. maybe hubby is good but business is down. oh please what a good samaritan to offer to recite protocol. call the companies on your own. he does nothing special. is he even board certified? there are doctors through out this country that offer the same much cheaper with great results . anyone paying attention. vixen lamoore said exactly how it is done. read her thread. I did. this charlitine was not invited. she is just using us. did dr. johnson get on here? why not? he is too busy. real doctors don't need to promote business here. word travels if they are any good. years proove their worthiness.I know the answers I got when I called their office. good luck. I have stated my peace. now think about it.

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #108 on: May 15, 2005, 05:50:13 AM »
So, we have 3 women, Rhiannon, Keisha and Buffie who are singing the praises of Dr. Baeke, Suzanne and his team. All 3 of which are pretty much adored around these parts. We have many other people who have spoken to Suzanne and cannot find fault with her knowledge and attitude. And then we have you. Only been registered 5 minutes and already you've made an enemy of several members here by spouting off your opinion in a less than constructive manner. Now, you may have had a less than satisfactory experience in your dealings with Dr. Baeke and his staff but it is a well known FACT that you cannot please 100% of people, 100% of the time.

Why not take this discussion up with Suzanne in private, where it belongs instead of airing your dirty laundry for all to see? I mean seriously, what did you expect the response to you original post would be?

We now have (hopefully, assuming this crap doesn't drive her away) a member of the forum who is able, and willing to provide  first hand  knowledge and experience about surgical procedures. It may lead to more business for her but so what? She is part of a business and  any  business need customers. This place has potential customers who would like more information. She is providing it. And she was also  invited  here to participate. She does so in her own free time.

Oh, and i always "think about it". That's why i make up my  own  opinions.
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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #109 on: May 15, 2005, 06:34:54 AM »
Maybe I am missing something...having some knowledge of the cost of these procedures, I can't see how Dr. Baeke's rates are AT ALL out of line.

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #110 on: May 15, 2005, 09:46:56 AM »
First let me start off by stating that, unlike some other huge boob girls at BEA, I have not met Suzanne or Dr. Baeke, I have not had any interaction with them whatsoever, and I do not know for as a matter of personally verified fact whether Dr. Baeke's work qualifies as a 'work of art' or merely 'competent surgery' ... although the pics I have seen of the other huge boob girls at BEA seem to speak for themselves in that regard.  The point is that, from my personal standpoint, I have no vested interest whatsoever in this matter.  With that said ...

I have posted in many other threads about the financial situation existing today in regard to the relative cost of getting huge custom made implants versus the relative income potential stemming from having huge custom made implants.  For a fact, that financial situation is much worse today than it was 10 years ago.  Part of that financial situation is due to the current scarcity/difficulty/FDA regulations involved in obtaining huge custom made implants in the first place.  The costs involved on the custom implant side of the equation are totally beyond the control of any particular plastic surgeon, and those costs are basically the same for any plastic surgeon since there is only one current supplier of huge custom implants.  

Another component of that equation is the relatively higher insurance costs to a plastic surgeon and O.R./surgical facility which performs/allows non-routine surgical procedures ... in other words malpractice and liability insurance premiums.  For 'specialists', these costs are in a whole different world compared to a neighborhood plastic surgeon performing ASPRS sanctioned procedures in a nearby hospital or clinic.  Again, particular doctors have no control over these costs, and if doctors who choose to perform high risk procedures incur high insurance premiums as a result, those costs must be passed on to the patients.

Because of the above, a girl embarking upon a quest to get huge custom implants needs to be prepared to cover the associated high costs.  The current financial situation in the huge boob business is not the fault of the plastic surgeon, and the plastic surgeon certainly bears no responsibility to offer at cost or below cost discounts to counteract the fact that magazine modeling, feature appearances, pay website net profits etc. are not what they used to be.

I'll reiterate that the ONLY valid financial question in my own mind regarding Dr. Baeke is the potential ramifications of Dr. Baeke's use of hourly charges versus the 'package price' quote typically used by other 'specialists'.  So far, Suzanne has still not had an opportunity to respond to this question.

I would also point out that, of the 10,000 or whatever plastic surgeons in the USA, to my knowledge there are fewer than 10 who are willing to work with huge custom breast implants.  Dr. Baeke and his wife Suzanne are the first ever who have been willing to share specifics with the BEA.

Now, for the sake of fairness, if there is a prospective or actual patient of Dr. Baeke who has actual experience of events which portray Dr. Baeke's practice in a negative light, then it is certainly within the topic of this thread and I for one am certainly interested in hearing about it.  However, as in politics, such accusations need to involve specifics and the person making the accusations needs to have some credibility before such accusations can be taken seriously.  

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #111 on: May 15, 2005, 10:01:17 AM »
lisawilliams27 the unenlightened did utter:
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vixen lamoore said exactly how it is done. read her thread. I did.




Actually I did read her thread.  Every message.  From the beginning.

And I still don't know how to safely pick up a scalpel and do the work.  Nor would I want to take the risk.

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this charlitine was not invited. she is just using us.




Actually, I DID invite her.  While on the phone, no less.  And she expressed her trepidation at the time.  I gave her my assurances at the time that she would be welcomed with open arms.

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did dr. johnson get on here? why not? he is too busy. real doctors don't need to promote business here.




Nice straw man argument.  But it doesn't hold water.  First, why would a (nearly) retired surgeon post here?  Certainly not to bring in new business.  Second, posting here in order to market oneself is a scattershot approach.  Dr Baeke already has a website, so anyone doing a Google search can find him easily.

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word travels if they are any good. years proove their worthiness.I know the answers I got when I called their office. good luck. I have stated my peace. now think about it.




Third (continuing from above), word HAS travelled.  It's called 'critical mass', and you've just witnessed it happening, if you've read every message in this thread.  No doubt folks in the Overland Park, KS area are already aware of him.  If anything, the demand for the specialized skills required to go larger has found a supply.

Clearly you have no interest in going bigger than the typical housewife.  I don't know why you're even on the BEA at all, other than to make a lot of noise.  But then, the squeaky mouse gets the cat.

Good luck with storming the gate.  Let us know how it works out.

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #112 on: May 15, 2005, 02:20:23 PM »
Greetings from war torn Iraq!

The rates quoted are not out of line for a 3 hour procedure. I  paid $10,200 for the wifes last one and that was for a well known plastic surgeon on the west coast. Maybe it was up a little from the average but you get what you pay for. Now having said that, the proof will be in the pudding. The wife will be at the good doctors on the 27th for her evaulation. She's smart and she's been doing some research on Dr. Baeke and so far she likes what she see's and hears. I too have done some research and I'm very impressed by his credentials as well. While we're on the subject, who cares if anyone comes into this forum to drum up business (not that anyone has). Word of mouth is what makes or breaks most surgeons. If someone has negatives, then present the facts and we can judge for ourselves. Just be sure the facts are accurate and not opinionized. I for one, welcome Suzannes candor, and now have more faith than ever that the wife has made a good choice. I'll keep you posted.

Now having said all of this I have come to the conclusion that if she has one more boob enlargement I will have more money invested in her chest than in our house! What the Hell, as long as she's happy!
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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #113 on: May 15, 2005, 07:43:47 PM »
As a woman considering another breast augmentation, I for one am extremely thankful that Suzanne has decided to spend some time on this forum. Her input can only assist those of us who are contemplating increasing out breasts size beyond the "housewife" norm. I appreciate her addressing my questions and the subsequent questions by Melonie.

As for the costs described by Suzanne, isn't it logical that non-traditional surgery such as this would cost more than its day-to-day counterpart. I myself have already budgeted around $50,000 for the cost associated with the surgical procedures necessary to achieve my goals. I am just hoping that I can reign in my desires so that I do not outstrip my budget too quickly.

I guess my follow up question would be concerning the non FDA implants I am looking to eventually have implanted. Is there a cost estimate that would give me an idea of what I can expect to pay and maybe more important, is there anything on the immediate horizon that may affect the availability of these implants and thus speed up my purchase timetable.

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #114 on: May 15, 2005, 09:25:14 PM »
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is there anything on the immediate horizon that may affect the availability of these implants and thus speed up my purchase timetable




Not meaning to derail this thread, and I have already posted about this in a Keisha thread, but for a fact the one and only French company which produces huge custom made implants today has recently been purchased by Inamed/McGhan.  Speculation is that because Inamed/McGhan is a mainstream corporation with a board of directors, stockholders, attorneys and accountants, that it won't take them long to figure out that the extremely low volume quantities of custom made implants currently being produced (versus tens of thousands of pairs of every catalog size implant) does NOT provide an acceptable rate of return based on the amount of effort and resources required to produce the huge custom implants.  Thus it's distinctly possible that the one and only current supply of huge custom made implants could come to an abrupt halt once 'new management' actually takes over day to day operation of the French company and the 'bean counters' start influencing management decisions.  Translation ... two huge custom implants in your hand next week/month may be the last chance for you to find them for the forseeable future !

Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #115 on: May 16, 2005, 11:35:55 AM »
"As for the costs described by Suzanne, isn't it logical that non-traditional surgery such as this would cost more than its day-to-day counterpart. I myself have already budgeted around $50,000 for the cost associated with the surgical procedures necessary to achieve my goals. I am just hoping that I can reign in my desires so that I do not outstrip my budget too quickly."

Now that you said you have $50,000 to spend, you can count on Suzanne sucking you dry. She will find excuses why she needs to charge you additional money. Rest assure she will spend every penny of your money.
It may be non-traditional sizes but no other surgeon charges her rates. Besides is a 1500 cc considered non-traditional? Hardly, considering that it is barely a DD cup on some girls. And the fact is, her quoted prices here are not what she actually charges.
She convinces you that you need 3 procedures to get the size you request. That is 3 charges for each surgery.
Do you think you are really going to recup your losses by working as a big tit model? That is, the $50,000. It would take you 6 years before you start to show a profit. Dr. Yermian in LA charges $10,000 for the whole surgery, implants included. Any size implants for only $10,000. He has a long track record. He has never been denied FDA approval. 1-(818)- 780-7900. Call him and find out for yourself. Ask to speak to him directly. Why spend the additional money to get the same results? His work is outstanding.
As far as my previous post talking about Johnson. I was referring to him in his hay day, stating that he never had the time to waste here because he was so busy doing the top models. Do not try to confuse the issue by stating johnson is semi-retired. Anyone who knows the history of doctors knows this.
I will be happy to give names and numbers of other doctors doing the large sizes. At least when you go to them the price is given before you get on the table. There are no hidden costs and no surprises.

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #116 on: May 16, 2005, 08:14:02 PM »
LW27,

I would love to see your before and after pics of Dr. Yermian's work and hear about your personal experience with him as your surgeon.  Did you have implants that he replaced?  And if so how big did you go?  Thanks for the info.

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #117 on: May 16, 2005, 08:35:31 PM »
Neither Suzanne nor Dr. Baeke ever tried to 'sell' me on something.  They are professional, respected, intelligent and sincere.  Never did I feel like I was being 'baited' nor 'switched'.  I've worked in sales, I know every angle, I can smell a pitch a mile away.  Not once did I ever even raise a brow at any of the costs quoted to me.  

My experience with Dr. Baeke and Park Place was worth EVERY PENNY.

You like your $10k surgeon, that's great.  Sing his praises until you run out of breath.  But certainly you're keen enough to know you can praise one surgeon WITHOUT unnecessarily bashing the competition.
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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #118 on: May 16, 2005, 10:12:18 PM »
So where do you live? I bet you are local. And when did u see Baeke? Not recently I will bet. Are you a magazine big tit model? Probably not. You can not compare your experience. I bet you did not pay what the real girls paid. So good for you. Your experience was good.I am happy for you. Suzannes sniffs us out. We get referred by high credibility then we get screwed. Not your problem. Just the facts maam.

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #119 on: May 16, 2005, 10:31:58 PM »
If by 'local' you mean I live in the same metro area as Dr. Baeke's office, then yes.  I'm local.  Rhiannon lives in Jersey, not local by any stretch of the imagination and She received the same treatment I have.  
I saw him as recently as 2 months ago and I'm seeing him again Saturday.  
Yes, I am a big boob model.  
Define 'real girl'.  
How exactly did you get 'screwed' by Park Place?  Price quotes do not equal a screwing.
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