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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2005, 01:25:47 AM »
It was a port under the arm for both of them and the onset of the infection was 2 months after surgery for one and the other just over 1 month.  Both girls were trying to do the fills by themselves and it can't be easy to manipulate a syringe and find the port by looking in the mirror.  They both ended up having their implants removed and later replaced with an implant that had no port.  I have since lost track of them and have no clue if they continued to have problems. I don't know if they filled too quickly or not.

I agree with the betadine v alcohol but it is not recommended to have betadine exposure to an implant.  It has been shown to breakdown the shell of the implant.  Surgeons use to put betadine directly in the pocket and also bathe the implant in betadine before implanting.  Now if that is done the manufacture will not cover replacing the implant.  

After this subject started I researched further some sterile technique that may work well; apply the betadine and let it dry for ~ 3-4 minutes then wipe the area with alcohol using a sterile gause or swab.  Inject in the center of that area.

I can understand the money issue of traveling for fills and agree the expense can be too much.

I can't hurt to ask the surgeon about doing it yourselves,I know people who go home with intervenous catheters getting medicine.

Possibly another idea would be to just pay a home health nurse to make a house call, I called after have this idea and they run ~ $75 to $150 per visit. Just a thought!

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2005, 01:41:33 AM »
I just want to cite how truly amazing My DOCTOR...Doctor Baeke is..he is actually taking My friend into surgery this Saturday morning to repair her botch job. She has an emergency situation. He is not even her Doctor. He has never even met her. He is willing to give up a Saturday to help a desperate model in a desperate situation. Dr. Baeke goes beyond the call of duty. He is not only an incredible Doctor loaded with talent but the fine humanitarian. His compassion and respect for life is one of his finest qualities.
I know how badly My fellow busty model feels right now.
Let Me tell you something. Imagine going into a sugery with yor hopes set so high that you are going to come out bigger and better then ever. Oh yes. How many times I have been there. And guess what? You come out and the problems begin. It fills you with despair even lonliness. You watch your life, hopes and dreams flash before your eyes. It is a horrible feeling to lose control of your life and situation. Everything STOPS for a big bust model when her boobs go "bust". My life was on hold for 2 WHOLE years as I limped My way back. I sat for months at a time with NO implant on My right side. And trust Me I did not have any boobs when I started so you could imagine how bad this looked; distorted and mangled skin dangling shapelessly from My empty chest cavity. All of this due to poor surgery. There are MANY incompetent surgeons out there that practice their experiments on us hungry victims.
I would like to post a few pix of My "botch jobs" but I am so ashamed of them. Perhaps i will think about it if I feel I need to get My point across.
In the meantime, I will post a Dr. Baeke pic and say a prayer for My friend that she have a speedy recovery. I know she is in the best hands...To be in Dr. Baeke's care  is like being in the hands of God...
What can I say...I adore him!!!
XOX,
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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2005, 07:53:11 AM »
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It was a port under the arm for both of them and the onset of the infection was 2 months after surgery for one and the other just over 1 month.  Both girls were trying to do the fills by themselves and it can't be easy to manipulate a syringe and find the port by looking in the mirror.  They both ended up having their implants removed and later replaced with an implant that had no port.  I have since lost track of them and have no clue if they continued to have problems. I don't know if they filled too quickly or not.




Zoiks!  Well I can certainly understand the difficulty of trying to do it yourself.  Probably about as easy as trying to tie your shoes with one hand, or button your shirt with one hand.

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I agree with the betadine v alcohol but it is not recommended to have betadine exposure to an implant.  It has been shown to breakdown the shell of the implant.  Surgeons use to put betadine directly in the pocket and also bathe the implant in betadine before implanting.  Now if that is done the manufacture will not cover replacing the implant.




Interesting.  And good to know.  

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After this subject started I researched further some sterile technique that may work well; apply the betadine and let it dry for ~ 3-4 minutes then wipe the area with alcohol using a sterile gause or swab.  Inject in the center of that area.




Excellent.  Thanks for the tip.  Seems you've done your homework.

I would also think that (assuming I were to do it for my wife) that I would use my free latex-covered hand to 'pinch' the fill-tube (through the skin) in order to center it and hold it steady.

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I can understand the money issue of traveling for fills and agree the expense can be too much.




Not purely the money.  Imagine asking your employer again and again for time off.  Every month.  And trying to come up with a reasonable excuse.  "Well my wife just got these really huge breast implants, and we need to fly to the surgeon to get topped up...."

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I can't hurt to ask the surgeon about doing it yourselves,I know people who go home with intervenous catheters getting medicine.




I can well imagine that a surgeon wouldn't exactly toss the syringes and saline supply over his shoulder and say "go for it".  Given that they have to aim for the lowest common denominator, they would no doubt start out in a patronizing manner (no different than going to a dentist to get some work done, eg, "Okay I'll need to inject this to freeze the area... you're going to feel a little pinch... there....") until they're convinced that the patient is reasonably intelligent.

Not exactly a fair analogy, but back in university I'd gotten braces.  I couldn't easily make the trip back to my dentist on a monthly basis, so he supplied me with this elastic material which I think was called C-chain.  Using a modified paper clip (I don't think he would have given me a periodontal probe to do this), I could quickly replace my old C-chain with a fresh strip.  After I showed him how, he was impressed and said I could continue to do so and come back to the office for checkups less frequently.

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Possibly another idea would be to just pay a home health nurse to make a house call, I called after have this idea and they run ~ $75 to $150 per visit. Just a thought!




Hmm.  Interesting thought.  And they'd have no problems injecting saline into an implant fill port?  I'm sure they're acquainted with the usual injectibles, but this is a little bit different.  Again, your diligence is appreciated.

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2005, 08:00:42 AM »
Hi Rhiannon,

Your ebullient references to the good doctor have not gone unnoticed.  And I can't even imagine what you have gone through in the past, and what your model friend is going through now.  At this point, he definitely sounds like the best bet for my wife getting hers done.

Your story is a compelling one, and you've already posted a pic which illustrates what can go wrong.  Unless you feel absolutely compelled to do so, I see no reason for you to post additional pics which bring back harsh memories of shame.

On a somewhat related topic, I have a more technical question for you, if I may.  Given that one can only order 800cc rated implants in the USA and overfill those, I take it that Dr Baeke ordered yours from somewhere else (Eurosil?) and imported them?  Given that Melonie has recommended that my wife aim straight away for 2,000cc to correct her grade 3 ptosis and avoid lift scars (and go really big in the process ), I'd just like to get an idea of the logistics involved.  Thanks!

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2005, 02:27:02 PM »
I have never posted the truly horrific pix of My botch jobs. I have; however, posted pics that demonstrated the lifting of the midline as well as the asymetry and mishapened/disfugured results.
Yes, I have only worn imported implants for the last 9 years. The last set Dr. Baeke did order on My behalf due to FDA regulations.
I must say, despite the fact I had developed leaks in My double lumen (the saline envelope in the seam leaked), I filled them at home without any complications for many years. You must be very careful so as not to compromise exposure to bacteria that would definitely result in infection. Maybe I was just lucky with the fills but the double lumen did bite Me in the ass by leaking as well as having faulty fill ports. I had the fill port changed numerous times so I could continue My inflation. The bag is so tempramental that the company NO LONGER produces them. Obviously, I was not the only one who had complications with that style of implant.
This sentence you posted I am quoting. I am not sure of what you are asking. "Given that Melonie has recommended that my wife aim straight away for 2,000cc to correct her grade 3 ptosis and avoid lift scars (and go really big in the process  ), I'd just like to get an idea of the logistics involved. Thanks! "
Are you asking should she just go ahead and get a 2000 gel implant and avoid the inflation process? Are you concerned about the limited sizes available in the US market?
Please clarify so I can respond more accurately.
But for the record. If your wife has the ability to get to her desired size in one process...go for it. Dr. Baeke can acquire the 2000's at this time. The only company that was still manufacturing larger implants is in the midst of major changes. Mr. MaGhan (formerly of our US manufacturer MaGhan) bought the European company and in My opinion is really fuc---- it up for us aspiring big bust want-to-be's. I spoke with the company rep that I had been dealing with for years and he stated that they too may be restricting their sizes in the VERY near future...So if you need a big size I would get on it ASAP while they still are producing the larger sizes.
I would love to comment more but I want to make sure I am answering you appropriately based upon your concerns...
Sincerely,
Rhiannon

Dr. Baeke's # is 913 685-0101 Speak with Suzanne. She is a registered RN as well as the office manager. She is extremely informative. Do tell her that you found them on the BEA.

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2005, 02:29:43 PM »
I happen to like this shot of My boobs. This was only  a few months after My surgery with Dr. Baeke.Notice there is NO LIFTING in the midline. Every other surgeon told Me they could not fix it. Dr. Baeke did!!!
I am here with Porn Star Exotica. You will see this lay-out coming soon in one of our publications...Also you can view the WHOLE shoot on My site....
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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2005, 06:12:54 PM »
Okay, so yes the gel implant (unknown size at this point) is the ultimate goal.  But I'm cautious when it comes to surgery; I'm really not keen on the idea of cramming 2,000cc gel implants into her if it would end up stressing the sutures, or other risks.

I was actually asking about implants in general, and in the case of my wife's first surgery, the saline post-op expandables.  The thing is, if we want to avoid a lift (to correct the grade 3 ptosis), we should take Melonie's advice and shoot for 2,000cc, either directly (static implant) or indirectly (post-op expandable).  Since a post-op expandable would be less initial stress, that would be the preference.  But in the USA the largest rated post-op expandable is rated at only 800cc, I believe.  Yes, I know this could easily be pumped up to 2,000cc, but I'm not sure either of us would like the look of it being overfilled by 150% (as compared to the usual 15-20%).

So it would seem on the surface that the only remaining option is to bring in post-op expandables from outside the USA.  Other than Eurosil, I really have no idea of any manufacturers outside the USA.

This then begs the question of logistics:  Do we simply work with Dr Baeke and have him deal with whatever non-US companies and necessary paperwork for procuring the post-op expandables?  If so, then great.  I'm a big fan of the path of least resistance.

Thanks for the contact details.  I just tried calling a few mins ago, but it's after 6pm here (Central Time), so I suspect they've gone home for the weekend.  It seems not everyone keeps Dr Rey's brutally long hours.

As for ordering 2,000cc implants today, that would be great!  Care to make an interest-free loan with an indefinite payback period?    The reality is, we've got other financial priorities at the moment, which is why the boobjob isn't of immediate urgency.  Of course, we'd then be putting quite a bit of faith in the assumption that my wife could carry them without any issues.  I suspect she will, given her body type.  But ideally this would get Dr Baeke's blessing as being within reason.  It'll be interesting to see what sort of pre-physical exam we can do from another state, ie, what details we can provide him in advance of visiting him.  Otherwise, I can see doing an initial consult (fly up, go to his office, fly back) then a follow-up consult (fly up again, go to his office, fly back) then the actual surgery (fly up again, check into a hotel, go to his office, get the surgery, go back to the hotel to recover, go back to his office for a final exam, fly back) and then of course all the follow-ups and post-op fills after that.

My wife just now reminded me of something.  She occasionally gets ingrown hairs in her armpits, and they can be pretty evil when they happen.  She's concerned that having the fill ports in her armpits would just be inviting trouble (ie, infection).  Do you know if they can be placed anywhere else?

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2005, 06:40:10 PM »
Hi Rhiannon:
I’m so glad to see that you have been able to correct your “cleavage” troubles and get a near perfect set of new breasts! And for the record I just love your lips! I’m curious if you went to a largest set of implants or just a rework/correct of the same size? As I heard you had gotten your hands on some very big custom implants?
FYI, I’m currently at 2500cc with a set of French made ‘double lumen’ implants and I am looking to get a new set of 5000cc implants by this summer. My PS in California said he can currently get USA made single walled 100% saline ‘tissue expander’ implants. He did my last set and I was very happy with his work, as I went from 800cc to 2500cc in a single operation (no post-op fill ups needed). And with the new USA implants I was looking forward to seeing him again. But after the glowing recommendation you have given to Dr. Baeke I just had to email him and see what he can do for me.
May I ask what size your current implants are? As I would like to get my lips done at the same time I was curious if he uses a different material or technique than any other PS to give you your luscious big lips? As I want to have lips just like yours! Again, congratulations on your new look, your gorgeous!!
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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #53 on: May 01, 2005, 10:29:54 AM »
To Rhiannon, Buffie, 34G and DrGirlfriend,

Got a question for all of you.

Last night my wife and I were playing around with the rice test (based on 2000cc per side) and... wow, pretty big for sure.  We used the cut-off legs from pantihose.  The rice wasn't being terribly co-operative thanks to the tendency of the pantihose to want to assume a tube-like (leg) shape.  :P  But we managed.

So I was Googling to see if we could find out whether dry rice is at par with or heavier than the same volume of water.  In the process I came across one breast implant site which said something to the effect of, "... if you get larger implants, you should try wearing the rice bags in a bra to bed, as you'll have to wear a bra to bed once you get those implants...".  This surprised me a little, and dismayed my wife.  When she was wearing the rice sacs in the larger bra, she definitely noticed the straps digging into her shoulders.  She had hoped that she'd be able to have some freedom of when to wear the bra and when to go braless.  At the very least, she never thought she'd have to wear a bra to bed once getting large implants.  I'm sure the site didn't have 2000cc implants in mind when it made this comment, so I'm guessing 'bigger' in the author's mind is anything larger than 500cc.

I was hoping that at least one of you could shed some light on this, dispelling any half-truths in the process.  Could you please comment?

On a related note, I got the sense from my wife that she's somewhat concerned that, with the large implants, she'll have these straps digging in pretty badly.  She told me that if the straps were about twice as wide or even approaching the width of her bandeau, it might not be an issue.  So in a roundabout way, I think she's interested in getting a sense for how much 'pull' will be exerted on the bra straps, and how much of the weight will be dissipated through her natural breast skin/muscle/etc.  I don't think she assumes for a moment that she'll be able to go totally braless 24x7.  (Quick bit of background:  she's a 38DD, and the bra she was using for the rice test was a 42DD, biggest we could find after searching through the local Walmart/Target stores.)

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.  

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #54 on: May 02, 2005, 02:19:19 AM »
Okay, here is my attempt to help!

Measure the chest circumference of your wife's chest just under her breasts (at the "crease" or "inframammary fold").  Then add 4 inches to that number, example if you got 34" then adding 4" would put her in a 38 band size bra.  Now really put your thinking cap! For that band size it will take approximately 250cc to equal a cup increase. So 2000cc will add approximately 8 cups making the bra size a 38 JJ or K.  

Now for the simulation of reality!  I went to Nordstoms and tried on Breast Prosthesis.  These are usually purchased by cancer surviors but work well for what trying to visualize size/vol/weight.  They aren't cheap $300-$400 each! But I found worth it, given now having a G cup, I feel like it was pretty close to a real picture.  As far as the digging into the shoulders, yeah it's now pretty, but the same prosthesis company makes "comfy straps" they are silicone gel and fit around the bra strap on the shoulder and help   A LOT!!!

I hope this has helped, if I think of more I'll post it later.

Good Luck!  My visit to KC is in about a week!

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #55 on: May 02, 2005, 02:52:42 AM »
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Thanks for the contact details.  I just tried calling a few mins ago, but it's after 6pm here (Central Time), so I suspect they've gone home for the weekend.  It seems not everyone keeps Dr Rey's brutally long hours.



Just an FYI, I saw that Rhiannon already posted about the girl Dr. Baeke was seeing on a last min.
I spoke with Suzanne at about 5:30 on Friday and she was on her way to pick up this very girl at her hotel and take to her back to the office to see Dr. Baeke.  By the way, I don't know if this was posted but Suzanne is Dr. Baeke's WIFE! (So unlike Dr.Rey's wife, she is not just sitting at home. And Dr. & Suzanne have a 3yr. old!)  She called me back after she dropped this girl back off at her hotel and it was 9:30 PM to answer my questions.  Surgery was done on Saturday morning for this girl, Suzanne was careful about protecting the girls identity and privacy so I don't know what happened but her situation got worse on the way to KC.

I hope she is okay.  Rhiannon maybe you know how she is doing?  If she calls you maybe you could just let us know she is okay.

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2005, 07:46:32 AM »
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Okay, here is my attempt to help!

Measure the chest circumference of your wife's chest just under her breasts (at the "crease" or "inframammary fold").  Then add 4 inches to that number, example if you got 34" then adding 4" would put her in a 38 band size bra.  Now really put your thinking cap! For that band size it will take approximately 250cc to equal a cup increase. So 2000cc will add approximately 8 cups making the bra size a 38 JJ or K.  




Ye gods...!  Okay, I'd half-joked with her that maybe she'd eventually end up at a K-cup.  But that was completely whimsical, off the top of my head.  Guess it was a lucky guess.  

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Now for the simulation of reality!  I went to Nordstoms and tried on Breast Prosthesis.  These are usually purchased by cancer surviors but work well for what trying to visualize size/vol/weight.  They aren't cheap $300-$400 each! But I found worth it, given now having a G cup, I feel like it was pretty close to a real picture.  As far as the digging into the shoulders, yeah it's now pretty, but the same prosthesis company makes "comfy straps" they are silicone gel and fit around the bra strap on the shoulder and help   A LOT!!!




Excellent, thanks for the tips!

BTW, do you know if Nordstrom's carries larger bra sizes?  I'm not sure if there's a store near us, but yesterday we were looking at some potential new neighbourhoods to move to, and one had a megamall nearby which had Nordstrom's.  Talk about coincidence.  

Oh, and do you have any thoughts on whether wearing a bra to bed is nessary or not?

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I hope this has helped, if I think of more I'll post it later.

Good Luck!  My visit to KC is in about a week!




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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #57 on: May 02, 2005, 11:47:38 AM »
I think this was mentioned earlier but Suzanne has a boutique at the office were she and Dr. Baeke work.  I know she gets my bras in my size.  I know a referred that needed at 38JJ I referred to Suzanne and she got a sports bra for her. Just a thought.  The brand name is Fantasie and another is Anita that carry the larger cupped "pretty" bras.  If you call you may ask them about the prosthesis Suzanne may have those too being her husband does so breast surgery. Again I am reaching but it is worth a shot.  I will be talking to Suzanne sometime today she gave me her cell number just incase I has anymore questions before I fly to KC. I will check BEA before I call to see.  Good Luck

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #58 on: May 02, 2005, 05:56:17 PM »
I just gave Dr Baeke's office a call about 20 mins ago (5:50pm) and ended up speaking with the spa person.  She said that Suzanne wasn't in today.  I felt a little awkward getting into any sort of discussion regarding my wife, but I did say I'd read some very good things about Dr Baeke online, hence he's our first choice for plastic surgery.  She mentioned that he doesn't do facial plastic surgery, so we quickly got around to the fact that we're looking at breast augmentation.  I emphasized this is the point I'd read many good things about him on.

She suggested phoning back after 9am tomorrow, or to leave a number where I could be reached.  I explained that I really preferred calling when my wife was in the same room as me.  I know we'll be able to work out a time at some point, so no worries there.

If you happen to talk to Suzanne, could you ask her how they would manage an out-of-state patient who wanted/needed to do several post-op fills without having to fly back every month?  This is actually one of the questions we'll be asking when we are able to call her, so no worries if you don't chat her up before your surgery.

Speaking of which, I just realized that I'm a little fuzzy on your surgery details.  If you're open to a question or two, I was wondering if you're at a 34G now and looking to go bigger, or whether that's your target size and what you're currently at.  If this is too personal, then pretend I didn't ask.  

Otherwise, all the best when you go for your surgery!  If you could, please bring pen and paper and keep a diary of your experience...?

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Re: Does anybody have any info on Dr. Baeke in Kansas?
« Reply #59 on: May 03, 2005, 12:01:33 AM »
I spoke with Suzanne about the post op fills and she had some questions about you wife that I could not answer.  She suggested that I ask you to email her with your phone number and/or questions also the lastest time it is okay to call (I am new to BEA and am unsure if giving email addresses is okay.)  I know from just the short time I have been communicating with her she usually is returning calls as late as 10:00PM.  She will email me at 1:00am and sometimes later but I usually get a followup whether by email or phone call within 24-48 hours.

No, it isn't too personal of a question about my surgery.  I am currently a 34G and am looking to go a little bigger.  

I am also wanting a tummy tuck and a little liposuction at the same time.  That was another reason for seeking out someone different than who I originally planned to use.  I saw Dr. Baeke's website and the number of combination surgeries and then after speaking to Suzanne for so long on the phone I felt I at least needed to go for a consultation and check things out.  Rhiannon and Buffy have given such good feedback I can't imagine not using Dr. Baeke but I still feel I need to see for myself. I had no idea the question I asked would get the information it has so far. I wish I had know about BEA a long time ago.

I will keep a diary that is a great idea and let everyone know how things go. If you have anymore suggestions let me know!