Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #120 on: December 13, 2003, 09:28:11 PM »
I have to agree with Ms. Charm on the realities of copyright protection on the net.  Basically, once a photo gets posted to the net it is essentially out of your control.  Newsgroups, Yahoo Groups and, obviously, unscrupulous ISPs grab a hold and there is very little you can do about it.  Who has the time and resources to make a legal challenge against the perpetrators?  You can threaten legal action but the reality is you are not going to follow through.  All you can hope for is that the true fans, such as you fine folks here at the BE, will be honest enough to help defray the costs of running your web-site.  I'm not saying that it is right, just that it is the reality of the situation.

I think it was Stephen King that said that the Internet has caused many people to think that stealing is cool.  I hate to say it but it looks like he was right.    

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #121 on: December 13, 2003, 09:35:31 PM »
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Melonie, I hope that you and your mother get through this difficult time quickly without any further hardship.

Today is my mom's birthday (she's 73 - we went to see  The Christmas Revels in NYC - I know people involved in the production). Fortunately, she is in good health. I don't know what I'd do if she ever got seriously ill, because of my two sisters and I, there's none of us who can take care of her.

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Thanks so much, Rtpoe.  There's nobody else in my family who can take care of my mother either, but all of my brothers and sisters have "regular jobs" and families of their own so I got 'volunteered' to take care of her since my daily schedule as a big bust model is much more flexible than their 9-5 jobs.  Unfortunately, they overlook the cumulative effect of my being committed to caring for my mother each and every day - putting off that photo shoot for a week or two is one thing, but putting off that photo shoot for 3 months results in this thread!

BTW enjoy the fact that your own mother is in good health - while you can!  

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #122 on: December 13, 2003, 09:36:12 PM »
I think it is our responsibility to not make it "cool."
Stealing hurts every industry.  I think we should continue to point out to the pirates that it hurts the very models you admire. Remember how many girls became big boob girls in the 80's and early 90's.  Melonie is an expert on the matter, and she says the benefits no longer match the costs.  My opinion is that pirates are one of the reasons.

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #123 on: December 13, 2003, 09:38:16 PM »
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I think it was Stephen King that said that the Internet has caused many people to think that stealing is cool.  I hate to say it but it looks like he was right.      




It's not surprising that Stephen King would say that - his material is only published in Book and Hollywood Movie form, and they both pay royalties !  

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #124 on: December 13, 2003, 09:45:32 PM »
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Stealing hurts every industry.  I think we should continue to point out to the pirates that it hurts the very models you admire. Remember how many girls became big boob girls in the 80's and early 90's.  Melonie is an expert on the matter, and she says the benefits no longer match the costs.  My opinion is that pirates are one of the reasons.  




Absolutely true.  The one piece of related evidence I can offer in regard to the effects of Eastern European business ethics on the adult entertainment industry is the changes which have occurred in American strip clubs after the influx of lots of Eastern European dancers over the past 5 years.  They have certainly changed the character of the clubs, and have also changed the profitability of the clubs for American dancers who 'just dance' if you catch my drift.  Most Eastern European girls are definitely oriented toward maximizing their own short term earnings with no regard for long term consequences to the clubs, to the American dancers they affect indirectly, or to themselves (because unlike the eastern european pirate websites, American police and courts can and will prosecute Eastern European dancers for performing illegal activities in US clubs).  

However, one of the long term consequences of Eastern European dancers on US Clubs has directly affected the big boobs industry. The gradual change in club focus from performing on stage to 'performing' in a private room (if you catch my drift) has been to devalue the role of feature entertainers - which includes big boobs girls.  Feature bookings are now less important since many club customers now go to the club for the private room action rather than the stage performances.  This makes clubowners less likely to book a feature entertainer to draw new customers interested in a stage show at all, reduces the number of feature performances the girl will be paid for if the club does book her, and reduces the number of times per year that a club might book a feature.  Besides this, with club customer emphasis shifting from the stage to the private room, clubowners are more likely to hire a feature who has a more direct appeal to these new customers i.e. a XXX star rather than a big boobs model - all of which result in lower earnings for big bust girls on the club feature circuit.  However, as mentioned earlier, very few people actually make the appropriate cause and effect associations.

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #125 on: December 14, 2003, 02:43:57 AM »
Well, the question stays the same - "Can someone post in this thread 1-2 recent (made 1-2-10 days ago) pictures of "MC" ?" That's all. Why do you all spend so many stupid words, then the object of question is 1-2 pictures ?

To Melonie C: - I'm really impressed.    

To all: For most of us - "thank you". For the rest - don't be so stupid then you pretend to discuss very complicated things that you are unable to discuss.

Capitalism... For most of you this is already a bad tale - this is a kind of history of XIX-XX centuries. Now this economic and political formation has different name. Even in Western Countries of Europe and CIS. And most of you don't even know it. You still pretend to live in XIX century.


To EW: "Russia has signed UN conventions on copyright laws just like anyone else"

You are rigth. But read closely the text of this document. Hint: If 1) people don't have any profit of illegally distributed materials; 2) people can't prove that illegally distributed materials are located somethere (mean I-site) - this document "don't work". There are A LOT of opportinities to "jump" this document without any problems. And people do it.

I don't discuss, if it's good or if it's bad - this practice, but if this practice exists and will continue to exist - people can do nothing with it. And any normal people - if he(she) sees that he(she) can get something for free or for good price - you can be sure that this person will get it for good price and not for official price of official distributor. If this person is not mad. Even (c) Microsoft was unable to change anything here. Because with us this is a legal practice. "Law is something like column - impossible to over jump but possible to circumvent" (c) russian proverb.

As I said it before - I don't discuss, if it's good or if it's bad - with us this is a common (and 100% legal!) practice - for example, you can get any packs of software or CDs with MC and other BB models for 2-3 USD only in every shop in Moscow. The same is for Internet-sites - well, if people can buy something for 2-3 USD on the streets, why all these materials can't be located somethere else ? As I wrote - this is 100% legal practice with us. If you don't like it - well, ... you don't like it.

The same is for other residents of Sin cities, etc.  
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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #126 on: December 14, 2003, 07:18:36 AM »
re: my only "real world" response to this issue is the well known New York expression "fuggedaboudit"

Hahaha!  You rule Melonie.  Keep on keepin' on!

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #127 on: December 14, 2003, 08:21:47 AM »
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#1 - If you must know, my mother has had chronic health problems for the past year or two.        




Melone,
My Heart goes out to you and your mother in these difficult times. Iv been thru this as well. It was possibly the most difficult thing Iv been thru watching my Mother slowly decline and be totaly dependent.  

The up side is you will know in your heart that you have done the best you could for her, and that will be important one day.  

Both of you will be in my prayers.  

I would like help you, You want to Marry me and Ill support you and your modeling will just be Fun money?     OK, probably not, but I have to say you are one of the most awsome women around.  Not only are you insanely sexy, you contine to awe me with you intellect.  You are an amazing woman.  I see your also good to those close to you.  Yes, you would make a wonderful wife

This thread is full of some nasty business, Bottom line to me if you want Melonies photos, Just join her site.  I dont support pirating photos.

I didnt know that the custom Video market is that good for you.  Iv always felt they would be a bit pricey for the content.  But now I am going to reconsider that and look into contracting one.  It will have to be after the holidays, but that will give me time to thing about what I want. Melonie, ever done a Super Heroine theme?  


 
Big Boobs to You!

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #128 on: December 14, 2003, 09:51:14 AM »
 
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 You are rigth. But read closely the text of this document. Hint: If 1) people don't have any profit of illegally distributed materials; 2) people can't prove that illegally distributed materials are located somethere (mean I-site) - this document "don't work". There are A LOT of opportinities to "jump" this document without any problems. And people do it.




Shadowcom, we know there is a problem with pirate sites. Yes the crooks can shift the stolen property. And yes, they will continue to get away with it.  

The point is YOU are a thief. You are a part of this blight on the big boob industry. You are part of the problem, and it is important for you to be aware of it, whether you choose to do right or wrong by Melonie and other models is now up to you.
 

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #129 on: December 14, 2003, 10:14:47 AM »
It is easy to assume, or expect something. However once it is revealed why things are a certain way, it is amazing how the light reveals the events and attitude changes.

Your a great woman to take on the challenges you are now, and you have nothing but my greatest respect. It is great to see love is still alive and strong in this day and age.  

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #130 on: December 14, 2003, 01:32:47 PM »
ggk> The point is YOU are a thief. You are ...

"In the mornings small dragon was particularly tedious" (c) Daniel Hood "Dragon justice" 1998.

I'm sorry, - do you know reading ? As I wrote - in conformity with russian law any activity mentioned in my messages is 100% legal. And I really don't care about any opinions of foreigners - I'm not USA resident, and I don't care of any USA laws, concerning these subjects. With us this activity is not considered like the crime. Then it will be considered by russian laws like the crime - well, then I'll be obliged to respect these laws. But not earlier. Do you understand ? Or you are one of these 0,1% that I mentioned before ?
 
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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #131 on: December 14, 2003, 02:36:27 PM »
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As I wrote - this is 100% legal practice with us. If you don't like it - well, ... you don't like it.



There's law, and then there's ethics; they aren't the same, and I think you've demonstrated your position pretty clearly.  

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #132 on: December 14, 2003, 04:20:04 PM »
Shadow, after 'sticking up' for your right to legally purchase pirated pics under eastern european laws, despite my personal opinion and the prevailing opinion of virtually everybody else as to the despicable ethics behind such laws and the pirate activities they allow, I thought that perhaps you would cut me some slack.  I should have known better !

OK Shadow, here's one and only one fresh pic (which has yet to be posted anywhere else), which I've posted mostly as a thank-you to my understanding fans and website members.  But I'm also posting it so that you and the eastern european pirates will know that there's no need to move my material to the "retired models" section.  Forgive the poor image quality, but it's straight from the camera's memory card.  My tan has also faded since I hadn't anticipated posing for photos - you and the pirates will just have to live with it I guess !

... I want you to know that I selected this particular pose with you and the eastern european pirates specifically in mind, because you and the eastern european pirates can both "kiss my entire lily white a$$ "! (c) old Brooklyn Proverb !
 

 
   

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #133 on: December 14, 2003, 05:06:10 PM »
Thank you Melonie!  That is the treatment he deserves!
Your lilly white skin looks great!  

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Re: Melonie Charms MERGED
« Reply #134 on: December 14, 2003, 05:09:33 PM »
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They all are taking advantage of a personal bargain  




I have no problem with the person with the best deal getting the business (walmart). But, if they are stealing the property and giving it away, that is not exactly capitalism in action.    




This, unfortunately, is exactly Shadow's point but viewed from a different direction.  In that different view, WalMart is stealing products from China by stealing the labors of Chinese workers who are not properly paid for their efforts.  I think that Shadow's point of view is that in America what Walmart is doing to Chinese workers is not considered illegal, so why should there be any difference when Russian law allows a Russian company to do exactly the same thing with the product of MY efforts that WalMart is doing with the product of Chinese workers' efforts ?

Even if I am personally displeased with Shadow's use of Russian pirate sites to obtain my pics, I have to admit that I'm probably doing exactly the same thing when I shop at WalMart and buy Chinese made clothing.  However, to be honest, I can't find stretch sports bras anywhere else that will fit me!