[Bombayduk]

we already know Beshine's boobs are much bigger than at 10k,

I would be very interested in seeing some actual evidence that supports that. The posted picture could not be any more misleading, comparing totally different outfits, angles and distances to the camera. If we go that route, why not post a pic of her 50 ft away and compare that to a webcam pic. No doubt she will look 3x the size.

You think she is much bigger than 10k. But its not a fact or consensus like you make it sound like. I could argue that over time people have become a lot more sceptical towards the size estimations fans (including myself) have done in the past. We currently have more information than ever on huge sizes, and a lot of people realise the reality and limits of extreme expansion.

Anyway  no matter the details she still is huge and one of the all time biggest. She stil looks mindblowing, and she has shared a lot of great content. So she still is amazing, even if your fan fantasy rose-tinted glasses theory isn't true.

I don't understand, was not my first sentence that this was not a size comparison?  I find that it is near impossible to find two photos shot from a reasonable distance and not see a distinct difference in size; the shape alone shouts a change, let alone the other aspects I mentioned.  Like I said, it is quite obvious that Beshine's boobs are bigger from a visual perspective while her written word over the course of the following years details the increasing big boob moments, her reaction, and her desire to create more.  Though the composite was not created to debate size, a simple glance should show there is a difference; shapes, cleavage, height, and width are all changed.   

There is a dressing room video from 2019 called 'biggest boobs real life scene' where she is holding her iphone right in front of her boobs so there can be no distortion in size as it is like holding up a ruler.  If anyone really cares, do an analysis, given the phones dimensions, it isn't difficult.  I have and found the volume considerably larger than 10k.  Now here is a fun thing to do, create a still from that video of Beshine in a pink top with her camera right in front of her boobs and compare it to the 2015 dressing room photo, white top but iphone on top of boobs (which makes phone look smaller).  There certainly looks to be a difference.  The thing one has to remember is geometry; at her size, a little 1" difference can mean thousands of ml of saline difference.

Seriously, look at the changes in posture, in incredibly decreased physical movements, in her increased fitness in comparison to 2011 and say it is without cause?  That is not accepting of reality, there is always causation for every change, but do I have videos of Beshine doing water displacement test in 2011 and now?  Of course not.  The better question is, despite the evidence to the contrary, show me your evidence that there has been no change; post your videos of her performing water displacement tests or any other evidence rather than just saying it is my distortion of reality, my fantasy that Beshine is any larger.

[lolchair]

show me your evidence that there has been no change;

Sure
Left https://www.beshine.com/tour/trailers/todays-new-snapshots---big-boobs-out-in-public.html from 2011
Right https://www.beshine.com/tour/trailers/Undefeated-and-unreached-breast-size-queen-Beshine.html from 2020

[Bombayduk]

show me your evidence that there has been no change;

Sure
Left https://www.beshine.com/tour/trailers/todays-new-snapshots---big-boobs-out-in-public.html from 2011
Right https://www.beshine.com/tour/trailers/Undefeated-and-unreached-breast-size-queen-Beshine.html from 2020

Seriously, my friend, the side view is the most convincing yet least honest because everyone that has ever looked at a picture of early Beshine knows that the vast majority of her boobs was in the sides, tapering towards the center to give them an oblong effect that many criticized in this forum for years, some insisting it exists to this day; they should join OF and see that it does not.  Even Beshine expressed in this forum that while she loved having bigger boobs, she was disappointed at the shape her huge custom expanders initially provided, insufficiently filled to give her the round shape she desired.  You could have made the front view comparison that I suggest and we would see quite a difference, because, as I have often said, it is Beshine's boobs becoming increasingly rounder that spells the profound difference and that view is seen from the front.

But beyond that, you wish to deny there is a difference in the picture I posted while wishing that I accept your picture as proof Beshine has not filled since 2011.  You suggest that Beshine has lied repeatedly about her boobs getting bigger, and want me to ignore the visual appearances I see, to ignore the apparent physical activity toll, to ignore the profound differences in how she moves, to ignore all efforts to measure contrasting dimensions suggesting maybe a 3" difference in projection, ignore the very real differences in balance, ignore how her boobs once drooped (underfilled) where today they don't?  That is asking anyone to ignore a lot of objective criteria that suggests Beshine's boobs are considerably bigger.  Frankly, that is way short of convincing and I'm sticking with my initial opinion; Beshine's boobs are bigger.

[Miggieknows]

Beshine’s is and will be bigger then before.

There is a difference and she knows she did
But we won’t ever find that out.

IMHO the many days pass by I hope and yes is only hope but for sure she will tell us fans. If not that’s ok with me
I’ll live with the fact that she did fill over the years , I bet she only filled her BOOBS over the years with small portions as time passed by.
Beshine Boobs look different today then when she was at 10k.

[Boosterboobs]

Beshine’s is and will be bigger then before.

There is a difference and she knows she did
But we won’t ever find that out.

IMHO the many days pass by I hope and yes is only hope but for sure she will tell us fans. If not that’s ok with me
I’ll live with the fact that she did fill over the years , I bet she only filled her BOOBS over the years with small portions as time passed by.
Beshine Boobs look different today then when she was at 10k.

I also looked different and much better 15 years ago.  Everyone changes, the years go by for everyone.  The eye is very easy to deceive you.  I think everything is a set of changes in general that makes it look different at a certain point/moment;  weight gain (I'm not saying she's fat, she's perfect) skin stability.... etc and gentlemen, she's been wearing these implants for more than 15 years and at the end of the day, nature brings everything to its place.  when they are new they have a shape and size and after several years things can change, it doesn't matter what engineering work they have internally at the end everything is repositioned.  Personally, I have my own theory about all this and it wouldn't be too far-fetched.

[lolchair]

You suggest that Beshine has lied repeatedly about her boobs getting bigger,

I did not accuse Beshine of lying anywhere. And in fact, she never has said anything about reaching a size beyond 10k. So she never really did anything misleading. And well her growing claims could be 1cc each time, and it would technically be correct.

My reaction was directed towards you because you present your opinion on Beshine added thousands of cc's as fact. And in the original post you go as far as saying its common knowledge. All i did was request some proof to back up these extreme claims, but it seem like that is not apreciated anymore. And when i back up my own claims i suddenly accuse Beshine of lying when i clearly didnt.

It seems like you just want to have a monologue here about your perceived reality regarding Beshine. Clearly it's not about discussion or providing facts anymore.

[cebe]

You know me, I like looking in my crystal ball 

[solvegas]

You know me, I like looking in my crystal ball 

That's great Cebe. Would be nice if it really happened. 

[Bombayduk]

You suggest that Beshine has lied repeatedly about her boobs getting bigger,

I did not accuse Beshine of lying anywhere. And in fact, she never has said anything about reaching a size beyond 10k. So she never really did anything misleading. And well her growing claims could be 1cc each time, and it would technically be correct.

My reaction was directed towards you because you present your opinion on Beshine added thousands of cc's as fact. And in the original post you go as far as saying its common knowledge. All i did was request some proof to back up these extreme claims, but it seem like that is not apreciated anymore. And when i back up my own claims i suddenly accuse Beshine of lying when i clearly didnt.

It seems like you just want to have a monologue here about your perceived reality regarding Beshine. Clearly it's not about discussion or providing facts anymore.

I'm sorry you feel that way.  I was and have been displaying my observations, based upon pictures, videos, and Beshine's printed words which are all subject to debate, but when you tell me that I must prove what I interpret or what Beshine alludes to as true, we have a problem, just like you have a problem proving what you state, that she has not expanded, as true.  Beyond the physical appearance of her boobs which I find indicative of expansion in numerous ways, Beshine talked both here and in her blog about the changes in life that she was experiencing as her boobs were getting bigger.  If we are to accept the premise that if she fails to disclose an amount of fill, that it did not occur or could be 1cc, then we would have to accept that Beshine only filled once beyond her starting amount of 2000ml, because she has seldom ever stated when she filled and only once given a amount.  Sorry, but your assertion that because she never said anything about reaching a size beyond 10k is grounds to deny it happened isn't plausible, because following the same logic, we would have to assume since she never stated a size or amount of fill, that none existed between 2k and 10k.  Beshine flatly stated in this forum that she didn't care about amounts, only the look.

But beyond physical appearance, there is a absolutely profound difference in her physical ability, which she has also talked about many times; watch a video from 2015 that is clearly filmed in 2011 named 'Beshine and her enormous mega knockers' and tell me that she still prances around a grass surface like that.  Far from it, my friend, very far from it; her attempts to run are more equilivent to a short step jog; that is much more boob weight.  When did she start talking about her boob weight was becoming so heavy that she was finding the need to rest frequently when walking, was it like 2014?  How many pictures/videos exist from her 10k days where she bends at the waist 90° legs straight without support?  The answer is lots, however, when you see her do anything remotely like that today she always uses something for support to bend that far or maintain the position, all indicative the of increased boob weight.  Look at all the 2011 pictures and videos; was her posture the same as it was in 2016?  No, it changed in an effort to handle the weight increase.  In 2011/2012, we see her sitting in chairs with arms multiple times; she cannot do that today.  We see the symmetry of of her areola changed over the following years; in every other expanding girl we have known, this has been a result of their expansion, but not Beshine?

So much empirical evidence beyond a picture screams that her boobs are bigger and heavier than in 2011 in my humble opinion, obviously yours is different, but you could just state so without disputing what I have said as wrong or diminish all the things Beshine talked about for years as exaggerated.  The changes were not due to remaining the same size as years earlier and both Beshine's posts and physical movement are indicative of increased weight and size.  No one has any idea how much she added or when, essentially going back to the start of this thread but with one single exception, but it would be naive to suggest fills were not occurring and I understand that is not exactly what you are saying, just that they they didn't occur after maybe 2011, right?  That seems to also be the contention of others back in the day, something that Beshine took offense to reading and if I remember right, that was the reason she gave for not mentioning fills after reading the denials here; she objected to people essentially saying that she was lying.  That is your opinion and mine is that she experienced significant fills after that point, the difference in breast shape and general appearance between 2011 pictures and 2014 is significant.  I am merely attempting to present the evidence, visual, physical, and Beshine's statements that support my opinion, evidence beyond a simple picture.  Whether you or anyone choose to accept it, even care to look at it, or just dismiss it out of hand is your choice, but it does not mean I am wrong.  I seldom speculate on any subject without sufficient objective evidence, logic, or at a minimum, Occam's razor conclusions and this is no different.

My 2¢

[Bombayduk]

And just like that, today's OF picture is "armrests can be very problematic since i went extra huge"

You see, in 2011, Beshine could easily sit in a chair with arms simply because of her huge cleavage gap; her boobs had room to move.  Today, that is no longer the case; they are every bit as wide, probably a bit wider, but the gap is gone, filled with her boobs as they expanded.  To all the naysayers that think it is just me, Beshine loves her boobs so much that she loves experiencing her constant "huge boobie adventures."

We all have a right to our opinion, however, when it defies the empirical evidence, it may require reassessment.  At one time, I spent far too much time trying to find a reliable estimate of Beshine's volume; today, like Beshine, I no longer obsess about volume, but the happiness a girl feels when her boobs become so large as they influence every aspect of her life.  Not every girl has that attitude, but anyone would be wrong to assume Beshine does not and we should respect that.

[Miggieknows]

Today the pic of Beshine saying “armchairs are a bit problematic ever since I went HUGE”!!!!
That right there says it all!!
Very self explanatory.
But yet many say that she hasn’t expanded her BOOBS to how HUGE they look today!

Imma believe it cause I see it.

[Maik]

Some points which also fit to her slowly filling over the years are that she wears at the beginning very often high-heels while now she is most likely wearing slippers and of course today her upper body is bended more backwards to hold her center of gravity. Looking back at those sc*re-videos she stands much likely straight and her breasts had a more drop liked shape. While today they are much rounder. my2¢

[Bombayduk]

Exactly, folks, there is so much more than just comparing a picture, which can be deceiving.  Posture, movements, stamina, breast shape, and much more.  The pictures of Beshine bralessly touring is not something we typically see today, and while it is just speculation, it is because of the same reason that she ditched heels in most situations 10 years ago, the same thing Foxy is admitting having some problem with, the reason Beshine wears her non-supporting but movement restricting garments she calls bras.  Watch all those videos from her post 10k Mallorca vacation, watch them again, do you see her balance being challenged?  For the past half dozen years, every other touring video has a balance challenging moment; the reason, despite the attempts for movement suppression, those boobs are big and heavy and present a challenge with any inadvertent quick move that is just the slightest bit off center.  Seriously, she didn't need to do it back when but today, every time she wants to lean forward, Beshine uses her arms to lift her boobs from her thighs when sitting so she can lean those extra few inches.  Those boobs hardly covered half her thighs back then; today they are closer to her knees.  Like I have said, her OF videos frequently demonstrated and/or talked about all the problems she refers to as "huge boobie adventures;" these things appeared over time, secondary to expansion, not because Beshine was oblivious to them in 2011.  With all her talk about always experiencing new "problems" because of her expanding boobs, to deny she have gotten bigger since 2011 is calling Beshine what?

Like I said, there is so much more than pictures.  Think that swayback posture that she exhibits constantly is easy?  Try it, seriously, try it in front of a mirror.  Now pick up something that weighs 50 pounds, hold it against your chest and see how natural it becomes.  Now try to stand straight and see how difficult that is.  Beshine's posture has come as a result of maintaining a center of balance, a natural inclination that has increased as her boob weight increased.  Watch all those 2011 videos; does she require to sit and rest while filming? 

There is just so much when making comparisons and as Sol and I have mentioned, the geometry of the matter is it takes eight times the volume to double the size of any container, so if you just accept she is 25% bigger than in 2011, what does that make her today?  Hint; double the volume.

[lolchair]

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Come one man, stop twisting what i said. I did not accuse Beshine of making up her expansion since her 10k claim.  She could have expanded 1cc, 20cc, 50cc etc each time and it would be growth. Any increase would be enough to make those staments the truth. My point was mainly directed towards you claiming she for a fact added thousands of cc's.
Like there is serious possibility she only added a modest amount of volume since she was 10k. Like 1-2k. That would be very hard to really see just from pictures. But at the same time any huge increase like 5k or more would clearly be visible. So I feel like a healthy dose of skepticism towards your claims is justified.
Also I never said she did not grow beyond 10k. It is ironic that you conclude so after seeing my comparison picture. Because i never implied any of that.

So far you really have provided no proof other than "I can clearly see she is bigger here, here and here" If she is so much bigger that should be extremely easy to see in any picture comparison. You keep repeating the same points you keep saying troughout the years. But a lot of those point could also be true if Beshine much less than you claim. A lot of confirmation bias in your observations.
So time now to prove all your theories! I dare you to post a picture comparison undistorted by angles, closeups etc and proves your point.  Bombayduk essay lenghth posts don't mean anything. Prove what you are saying.

And please do not put words in my mouth like I am attacking Beshine on any of these points. I am not. She is great, she achieved a huge size, and she clearly loves it. I just feel like there should be room here for some skepticism.

[Bombayduk]

There is no possible way beyond examination of the observational evidence we have to "prove" what we see; Beshine is the only one wo can "prove" her volume, so what is your point?  I have stated the empirical evidence that I find proves my opinion; it goes far beyond pictures, yet you dismiss all of it without providing any evidence yourself beyond picture form.  What evidence have you to explain all the other things I mention?  I can understand you make believe that she only added a small amount of volume since 10k, but that falls far short of explaining the differences in physical aspects we witness; everything is profoundly different that in 2011 and you can see it in virtually every video over the past half dozen years, her movements far more conservative than the early years.  Why is that if her boobs only weigh 3 pounds more each?  Why does that cause fatigue now where id didn't before?  Why do simple acts require Beshine to physically move her boobs now and support herself in bending?  Why has her posture become more exaggerated, her fitness become more developed?  Why did she only start mentioning "huge boob moments" years after 2011?  Why is maintaining balance more difficult?  At 10k, Beshine had an underboob fold that really does not exist today, is there another explanation other than substantial filling (think water balloon)?  I have been making a lot of points beyond the visual, if they are not related to size/weight, why haven't you addressed the cause of any of them?

My posts are sometimes essay length to some (tiny essay in my humble opinion); please excuse me for trying to be explicit when making an observation as opposed to the intellectual "big tits."  I am only trying to explain why I said what I said rather than just blurt out some observation but offering no explanation.  I understand that most people do not read the actual studies in medical or scientific journals, preferring the less challenging or thought provoking obtaining all their knowledge from the headline, but that is not me; I want the facts and the rationale.  Critical thinking, the ability to look at the facts available and formulate a logical conclusion is sadly lacking in society today and it is because people are to lazy to actually examine the evidence.  The fact that I refuse to follow the simplistic but offer rationalization for what I am saying infuriates some, but just like those factual studies they ignore, no one is making anyone read them.

I have pointed out many changes that I have witnessed both from physical appearance to physical movements yet you are failing to explain a rationale behind any of them existing if not for a profound size and weight difference.  Earlier this year, I created some pictures designed to illustrate size differences and I do not recall anyone refuting my observations, but when I create one not designed for that purpose, you object to something I was not even trying to present, yet again, fail to address what I was addressing.  I have already explained my the rationale behind my opinion on your comparison picture, so don't pretend I concluded anything beyond the explanation I offered.  Do you seriously believe a picture tells a better story than the physics on something where small differences, almost unnoticeable because of the overall size, make a huge difference in volume?  It takes less than 3" diameter for the volume to double from 10k and there is a reason why Beshine's boobs no longer fit in chairs with arms; think about it.

I am not trying to sound condescending in my presentation, but just trying to present the evidence as I see it.  You call me biased; perhaps I am, but that does not stop me from trying to be factual in any of my observations or estimates as to volume.  I have actually done the homework, finding pictures/video where something of precise size is present for a proper comparison and then set forth to do the calculations, which are no better than estimates because her breasts are not a specific shape.  At least I have been willing to spend the time and effort rather than take the easy way out.

You complain that my posts over the years are redundant; seriously, have you seen the posts of virtually everyone here but perhaps Nim?  Some of the things I post mirror what Beshine is saying at a particular time or reflects on things she has said in the past, some are general observations that although mentioned previously, may be new to some.  I didn't realize this offended you.  Have I ever criticized the length or repetitive nature of your posts?  While I may disagree with your opinion, I don't engage in ad hominem, but direct my comments to the content.  Your efforts to disparage me based upon repetition and length are disappointing.  I wish to be friends with everyone here, but if some actually believe that I must share their opinion, that I am not permitted to have my own opinion, they are not being friendly.  I normally choose to not respond to differing opinions, but only challenge disparaging remarks or what I believe to be factually inaccurate.

I do agree with your last sentence; Beshine is great, she really loves her huge boobs, and that there is room for skepticism, though it should be within realistic bounds.  This said, I have drawn criticism many times for mentioning precisely this information and expounding upon the rationale behind my observation.  There are just so many headline readers here that think everyone should be limited to "nice tits."  So intellectual, so disappointing.