[Bombayduk]

I found this on a web stat search call StatShow that ranks website traffic:

'beshine.com rank has increased 0% over the last 3 months. beshine.com was launched at May 17, 2004 and is 14 years and 48 days. It reaches roughly 138,630 users and delivers about 305,040 pageviews each month. Its estimated monthly revenue is $884.70. We estimate the value of beshine.com to be around $10,763.85. The domain beshine.com uses a Commercial suffix and its server(s) are located in Germany with the IP number  beshine.com is not listed on Dmoz.'

It goes on to list daily visits 4,621 and daily page views as 10,168

I find a couple things interesting:

1.  Evidently Beshine established the domain name a couple months after her 21st birthday and over three years before her first post here.  Although she initially always professed to having no interest in having a website, apparently, she had already picked her name and registered under that name.

2.  The number of users exceeds anything I would have imagined, however, I suspect that includes non-members checking it out.  Personally, I imagined membership as more in the 500 level on average, which I thought would be like a third of what it once was.

Thoughts?


BTW, just for comparison:
'chelseacharms.com rank has decreased -70% over the last 3 months. chelseacharms.com was launched at September 22, 1999 and is 18 years and 287 days. It reaches roughly 15,660 users and delivers about 34,470 pageviews each month. Its estimated monthly revenue is $99.90. We estimate the value of chelseacharms.com to be around $1,215.45. The domain chelseacharms.com uses a Commercial suffix and its server(s) are located in unknown with the IP number . chelseacharms.com is not listed on Dmoz'

I can promise you the first registration of Beshine.com in 2004 was not Beshine. Between this first registration and the latter registration in 2009 was a gap. A gap of nobody owning it ...
And maybe you are aware that in China is a company selling stuff with the name Beshine and even lately another comany selling cosmetics stuff with name Beshine from somewhere in Asia ... not unlikely the "Beshine" company in China had the registration first and then forgot to extend it. Happens many many times in the internet.

And about these statistics sites, monthly revenue and net worth and bla bla bla ... it is BS. Also the monthly visits. If you look closer you will see that they only take the daily visits and multiply by 30 How is it possible that it is always exactly 30x the daily visit. Even an affiliate site with visit numbers that high would have a higher monthly revenue. But Beshine.com is a member based website.
So again these statistics sites are BS if you don't know how to read them.
Small example ... if you have a site that is not optimized for mobile browsing, some of the statistic sites don't count the normal desktop computer users anymore. They believe the internet should only be surfed with smartphones and tablets.

Merely stating the information provided; I started, wondering about news outlets and their average viewers, however, just for curiosity, put in Beshine.  It would go without saying that what they list as "daily" is a particular month divided by days.  I have no idea what the "revenue" is about since there is no advertising; the news sites and search engines were in the millions.

[Bombayduk]

And the Mint Green Striped top video is back, the minute longer version of the Blonde Stunner video released in 2015, that was filmed on the 2011 Mallorca vacation.  One thing of note, at multiple times, certainly in the overhead shots, 3 of the 4 cords that support the upper aspects of Beshine's internal bra are very evident; the left medial is always elusive.  My bet is that it would be a bit of a stretch for that top to fit her today with another seven years of expansion.

I'm curious if you could provide a screenshot or, if not, a timestamp of what you're talking about.  I haven't seen what you're talking about because I haven't looked for it.

Thanks.

I would love to figure out how to do that; read online instructions on it, but it never seems to work.  However, for example, if you view the Mint Green video, pause at 3:21; at that time you can clearly see the left lateral and right medial cords.  They are what would appear to be thin elevated lines of skin, coming from the breast and extending to the anchoring points; medial normally anchored in the medial first rib and lateral in the anterior shoulder.  The bra itself is really more akin to individual hammocks for each breasts, fashioned from one of a couple different meshes, cradling the implant.  The cords are actually suture line, extending from the hammock to titanium screws to firmly anchor the bra.

The raised areas are easy to spot once you know what you are looking for, their position has always been present and consistent since Beshine received her implants.  A good example of the suture/cord support movement is in the video 'Biggest funbags' from 1/22/16, actually shot in 2011; at about he 25 second mark, with Beshine leaning forward, you can see the right medial cord following the movement of her breast under the skin.  But once you know what you are looking for, you realize that the same cords have been evident since the beginning.

It goes without saying that tissue alone could never support such weight without sagging and creating stretch marks in the areas that support the most weight; usually upper and lateral.  Of course, we cannot ever deny Newton's invention of his thing called gravity, which always pulls things south, however, Beshine's breasts defy the natural gravitational aspects and are no lower today than 10 years ago, because they are supported not by tissue, but by bone structure.  And contrary to the laws of gravity and physiology, Beshine's breasts continue to rise as they get bigger and heavier.  And that is the purpose of the internal bra; breasts that never sag.  I have read where some plastic surgeons recommend an internal bra for all implants over 450ml today, to avoid revisions 10 years down the road that would require them.  Skin stretches.

If you examine pictures through the years, the right and left lateral are obvious in the early years with particular poses, but gradually disappeared as her breasts, unable to go lower, have risen with expansion.  The left medial was always elusive, however, the right medial is still always evident today in every picture where her breasts are not supported by a bra or her arms.  An internal bra, much like a swing, allows for side to side movement, and even upper movement with sufficient force, but prevents all downward movement at the point where it bottoms out.

I have read and seen a show where women with large implants have had to have revisions and placement of an internal bra after years of gravity taking its toll, thus the recommendation today of having it placed at the same time as the implant.  Though it is not exactly new, there is a cheaper silicone bra that uses the same anchoring system, specifically designed for large natural breasts, where the height and shape is determined by the patient, and that is said to eliminate the need for bras entirely.

The skin folds you see and believe you believe is the internal bra, is another effect. You can see on many woman with heavy implants and especially sometimes over time. PBD has it, even Kayla Kleevage has it.
It is just an effect of pull on the skin, when you have more skin in an area, but now the implant shifts in the implant pocket (eg. by hanging over) then the the pull effect folds the skin on the area the implant just has left ...

It is normal physics. I don't know it, but I don't believe Beshine has an internal bra. And all my time on cam with her doesn't support that there isn't any indication of an internal bra ....

I know I have more than adequately documented that the same support cords that were present in 2010 are in the same position as today with the same appearance.  We can each believe what we want to believe, however, every bit of rationale supports this contention.  Skin stretches under weight, producing stretch makes; Beshine has none.  Given the weight, any normal person with implants that size would find their implants well south already; Beshine's have not gone south at all, in fact, her breasts have clearly gotten higher throughout the years.  If you have read about the fixation of internal bras, you would know that the precise locations where the suture cords are evident, are the precise locations plastic surgeons anchor them.  You may wish to assume skin folds 1/4" wide rise up from the anterior chest, but there is no basis to support the assumption, and you may assume it is skin pulling, but 10 years, same place, same width, no stretching to accommodate, that would be a stretch, make that a non-stretch.

While I am no big Kayla fan, thus far less familiar with her, I would bet she may indeed have the same support, despite clearly far less weight for her skin to support.  Internal fixation is not new and it is a way of getting around lifts, which will fail again as the skin stretches.  And do not misunderstand, I am not talking skin folds at all, but thin cords that rise up as the breast pulls on them.  Checked out some pictures, and there is no evidence in what are clearly younger days, however, a medial aspect line appears in her more recent pictures when her breasts are not supported; same position as Beshine, but much less prevalent.  Of course, with much smaller breasts, the hammock is much closer to the body (far less projection), so you would expect that.  I guess the better question is if Kayla denies having internal fixation, but it is not like they disclose everything they have done.

"It is normal physics. I don't know it, but I don't believe Beshine has an internal bra. And all my time on cam with her doesn't support that there isn't any indication of an internal bra ...."
Apparently she never leans forward into the camera?  If she did, it would be very evident if you know what you are looking for and know about internal fixation.  It has become a standard in revisions, essentially replacing breast lifts.

All this stated and my multiple posts and references (did you look at them), since you are still unconvinced, being open minded, I will entertain rational explanations on how Beshine's breasts defy gravity and the upper aspects are actually visibly higher today than they were in 2010, while the lower underbreast is unchanged.  Beshine does not share the specifics of everything she does and there is no need to do so, however, internal fixation is now recommented on all large implants.

[andrat2000]

I'm not a english native speaker a fold can go inside or outside. So the easiest rerference for me was a "fold" ...
And when I say no reference in the camshows I meant when she leans forward and a lot of other angles. I think I have seen all positions by now. Including 2x shower and caming in bed ... what I missed was the bath tube cam show ...

[hourglass]

This post is almost as prodigious in words as beshine is in boobs.  Perhaps a few pictures to illustrate your point would be helpful?

[andrat2000]

This post is almost as prodigious in words as beshine is in boobs.  Perhaps a few pictures to illustrate your point would be helpful?

What to ilustrate?

[andrat2000]

@Bombayduk:

The internal Bra procedure with titan screws was an idea that came up with Israelian surgeon Eyal Gur in around 2007. He started his clinical trials in begin November 2009 in Belgium.

Beshine's implant surgery was begin October 2009 (she posted here 07.10.2009 in the very early morning). So it was more likely 06.10. or earlier.

While the dates are close together, the first patient was "in her 30's". We know Beshine was 26 at that time. One other thing the internal bra has to support from beneath. How should this work with an implant in her size? And how should the internal bra manage expanders? Her going from a size of approx. 3-4k from day of surgery to far beyond 16k.

Some people might have a medical certificate (a wild guess you have one, maybe not as a doctor, but as a nurse because of your postings) here on the board and have pro and cons for internal bra, but why not ask her herself? OK if she says yes then this Belgium surgeon would be her surgeon (maybe with assistance of Eyal Gur), but I pretty much doubt this.

I would put my money on a bet with a German surgeon. And in 2009 no German surgeon performed this internal bra procedure.

I hope you are open minded, too, for my arguements and eye witness of her cam shows.

[solvegas]

^ A lot of interesting speculation around here. Bombayduk has very good arguments about how Beshine has been able to go super huge without the stretch marks or other blemishes which huge breast expansion has traditionally been accompanied. Andrat 2000 has provided several tidbits of possible surgeons which possibly conducted the surgery. But only Beshine, if she ever decides to tell us, can provide us with the actual information we crave. I believe she will never tell us because whomever was the mad scientist surgeon which performed the miracle probably has a non-disclosure agreement with her because he/she may not want their medical license taken away or the censure of his/her peers in the plastic surgery field because Beshine is a very extreme sample of breast expansion. Perhaps in the day she officially retires from the scene, hopefully for many years to come, she might divulge the information.  By the way, Beshine is on cam wearing a pink tube top.

[Bombayduk]

@Bombayduk:

The internal Bra procedure with titan screws was an idea that came up with Israelian surgeon Eyal Gur in around 2007. He started his clinical trials in begin November 2009 in Belgium.

Beshine's implant surgery was begin October 2009 (she posted here 07.10.2009 in the very early morning). So it was more likely 06.10. or earlier.

While the dates are close together, the first patient was "in her 30's". We know Beshine was 26 at that time. One other thing the internal bra has to support from beneath. How should this work with an implant in her size? And how should the internal bra manage expanders? Her going from a size of approx. 3-4k from day of surgery to far beyond 16k.

Some people might have a medical certificate (a wild guess you have one, maybe not as a doctor, but as a nurse because of your postings) here on the board and have pro and cons for internal bra, but why not ask her herself? OK if she says yes then this Belgium surgeon would be her surgeon (maybe with assistance of Eyal Gur), but I pretty much doubt this.

I would put my money on a bet with a German surgeon. And in 2009 no German surgeon performed this internal bra procedure.

I hope you are open minded, too, for my arguements and eye witness of her cam shows.

I am well aware, having read and watched shows regarding internal fixation, and been in the OR for various types (you are right, I am a RN).  One particular show featured Lacey Wildd getting her internal bra and they detailed the screw placement and having a lower lateral screw, however, the lower screws are not typical; most are supported by four screws in superior aspects of the torso.  The upper support only allows the breasts to swing, both laterally and forward, more freely.

But as far as Eyal Gur developing the capsulorrhaphy, that is false; it has been around longer, and if I remember right, he just developed a particular type of capsulorrhaphy, of which, there are many, with at least four different products used to create the basis of a bra.  I think his was silcone, which is not the norm today, but he did popularize the phrase "internal bra."  I have no idea who first developed the "hammock," but would contend it has been an evolving procedure for years.  I have searched this before and found it mentioned as far back as 2002, but without a credit given to a developer.

Interesting that you believe Germany as where Beshine's surgeon practices; I always thought Madrid, hence the frequent flying there in the early days. In any case, internal fixation, capsulorrhaphy techniques, predate Beshine by years.  Perhaps in 2009, no surgeon in Germany was doing Gur's method, but they were certainly doing other versions.  And we all know that Beshine has always been ahead of the game.

The problem is, if one believes Beshine does not have one, there remains a complete lack of rationale to explain her remaining immune to the gravitational physiological aspects that she clearly defies.

[Bombayduk]

^ A lot of interesting speculation around here. Bombayduk has very good arguments about how Beshine has been able to go super huge without the stretch marks or other blemishes which huge breast expansion has traditionally been accompanied. Andrat 2000 has provided several tidbits of possible surgeons which possibly conducted the surgery. But only Beshine, if she ever decides to tell us, can provide us with the actual information we crave. I believe she will never tell us because whomever was the mad scientist surgeon which performed the miracle probably has a non-disclosure agreement with her because he/she may not want their medical license taken away or the censure of his/her peers in the plastic surgery field because Beshine is a very extreme sample of breast expansion. Perhaps in the day she officially retires from the scene, hopefully for many years to come, she might divulge the information.  By the way, Beshine is on cam wearing a pink tube top.

Her surgeon, the manufacturer of the implants, and current volume, none are disclosed; Beshine is a private person.  I have found it interesting that she has stated that the manufacturer is not a known manufacturer and her implants are not made of the same material normally used. 

[andrat2000]

The point I also wanted to make and that give me most doublt. The internal bra with these other meshes and a saline expander implant that has 4 or 5 times the orginal volume, how should this work? These meshes unless silicone or similar material do not stretch like the implant shell does. And the only support it could give to the implant would be if it reaches out also about half of the distance her breasts project. And also in the case of Dr. Gur the there were silken cords used for attaching it. They don't stretch either.

Another internal bra operation is by folding in and suture the own body tissue thickening the part that supports the implant. But this is mainly done on reconstruction surgery with breast reduction.

I think Beshine just had luck with good genes for her breast tissue and skin.

[Bombayduk]

The point I also wanted to make and that give me most doublt. The internal bra with these other meshes and a saline expander implant that has 4 or 5 times the orginal volume, how should this work? These meshes unless silicone or similar material do not stretch like the implant shell does. And the only support it could give to the implant would be if it reaches out also about half of the distance her breasts project. And also in the case of Dr. Gur the there were silken cords used for attaching it. They don't stretch either.

Another internal bra operation is by folding in and suture the own body tissue thickening the part that supports the implant. But this is mainly done on reconstruction surgery with breast reduction.

I think Beshine just had luck with good genes for her breast tissue and skin.

I would think the "bra" was a bit loose to start, likely filling the space provided by 10k, and since that point, all expansion is f0rced upward, which photos seemingly prove evident; no further expansion is noted laterally or inferiorly.

I believe the most common suture material used to support heavier objects is polypropene, however, any non-absorbent braided suture material would suffice.  All internal bras feature a hammock for each breast, typically anchored medially to the 1st rib, and laterally to an outer aspect of the rib, however, with larger implants, the anterior aspect of the shoulder is used, I imagine secondary to too much weight being applied to a single rib, compromising and very possibly deforming the rib.  That said, and although I have identified the lateral sutures anchored in Beshine's shoulders, primarily evident in earlier photos, I would be remiss to say that, a chest xray would already show some deformity secondary to the weight.

The "folding" technique involves using the patient's own skin, and dissolving lattice; using either a laser or electronic tool, scar tissue is formed to create the hammock.  This only works on smaller breasts/implants.  Apparently, Strattice is considered the primary material used in most "internal bras."  That said, it does not work for natural breasts, so the silicone cup is being used for large naturals to correct sagging, actually allowing very large natural breasts to be bra free unless under the stress of exercising like aerobics and running.

[solvegas]

^ You know, I had no idea Bombayduk was a RN. I just thought he was an amateur who read up on medical stuff like some of the guys here. As for me, I'm no expert or surgeon or anything like that. I'm just a pervert …. er …. breast connoisseur who knows what he likes which is as big as possible on a slim girl and Beshine fits the bill. I'm less interested in the science and more interested on the end product and Beshine delivers for me.  

[Bombayduk]

^ You know, I had no idea Bombayduk was a RN. I just thought he was an amateur who read up on medical stuff like some of the guys here. As for me, I'm no expert or surgeon or anything like that. I'm just a pervert …. er …. breast connoisseur who knows what he likes which is as big as possible on a slim girl and Beshine fits the bill. I'm less interested in the science and more interested on the end product and Beshine delivers for me.

We all have to do something for a living, so I've spent 25 years in ICU.  My fascination with immense well shaped boobage predates that time; though large boobies are interesting, huge boobies have even more appeal, and boobies so immense that they effect normal life are amazing.  Like balance; normal girls do not need to use their arms for balance when walking on the beach while, even with short careful steps, Beshine does: An enormous rack on a beach making it clear.

[solvegas]

^ We are both the same type. My fascination with huge breasts started back when I was a pre-t3en in the 1960's while sneaking a view of my older brother's porn stash and women's breasts were my first to go look-see. Then Janet Lupo appeared in the 1970's when I was 15 - 16 years old and POW ! …. I was a goner. I remember how huge she looked at the time. And then I spied a magazine called Fling which specialized on big tits and afterward Gent Magazine which had Otis Sweat cartoons and great BE stories and it became my favorite porn magazine until Score came along in the early 1990's. By that time there were videos of Tina Small, which had prosthetics on, but they were reasonably well done but of course, beginning in the late 1980's with Melissa Mounds and many other implant models I was in heaven. Women could buy big, no, HUGE tits now until the Bill Clinton FDA ruined it for a while. But with the rise of one from Minnesota, whose name I can't mention or I will be banished from the BEA if I do, super huge became possible and Valhalla was ours for the taking. Beshine then came along with a more reliable means to get huge unlike the polypropinol which caused trouble to such luminaries like Sable Holiday and others and now it seems an English lass from Old Blighty, Essex Bunny, might be a serious challenger. So we live in good times, says I.

[Bombayduk]

Of course, since there is a thread here, I assume you have to be joking about mentioning anyone.

When I think back, seeing magazines and such, I guess I have always had a leaning toward larger breasts and can remember seeing Tina Small in a magazine laying around a place I once worked; I thought she was outstanding.  I guess I didn't think much more about it until the internet and finding a old site, Acotto or something, then to the BEA when it was in its infancy, and of course, the rage at the time, the big implant girls.  I guess I really didn't give it much attention for years until I somehow saw Beshine a half dozen years ago, then I had to find out everything about her, which led me back here.  I guess, prior to that point, Pandora was always my favorite. 

I think a lot of my fascination with Beshine is not only her beauty and immense breasts, but her story; essentially, not seeking fame or fortune, but just a personal desire to have immense breasts.  Of course, as her size has expanded, so has my imagination on the daily activities and how she address them, which I have mentioned and even suggested as material for videos; I would much rather see Beshine interact with her environment than do the rather repetitious modeling videos.  Needless to say, it was refreshing in 2016 to see Beshine release so many 'in public' sets after totally ignoring that venue for four years and doing nothing but modeling; there are just so many poses you can strike before it becomes repetitious.


Interaction with the environment is always interesting; almost like touring with a immense boob girl.  In the early years, Beshine had a number of picture sets where she was in a public setting, however, after hitting the 10k mark, nearly everything, pictures and video, went to modeling.  By my estimates, until the Denmark sets of 2016, Beshine had only shot 6 videos in a public setting throughout all the preceeding years.  Doing the same thing, despite having enormous boobs, can seem a bit stale, so, though we may not see bare boobs, we do get to see some normal activities; a far more personal aspect, IMHO.