[Shara]

judging from the threads and hearing from various forum members and reading the stuff posted by vixen, angelus and various others I draw my conclusions and Angelus seems to make a whole lot of sense

[solvegas]

Sorry to see you leave Vixen. Take care and good luck.

[Wabbit04]

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judging from the threads and hearing from various forum members and reading the stuff posted by vixen, angelus and various others I draw my conclusions and Angelus seems to make a whole lot of sense

Understandable.

Before you make a final decision, might I suggest you visit Vixen's website and read her Forum?  You can sign up for free, and she's posted photos absolutely free.

Regards,

Wabbit04
-Vixen's best BEA liaison!

[Angelus]

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judging from the threads and hearing from various forum members and reading the stuff posted by vixen, angelus and various others I draw my conclusions and Angelus seems to make a whole lot of sense

Understandable.

Before you make a final decision, might I suggest you visit Vixen's website and read her Forum?  You can sign up for free, and she's posted photos absolutely free.

Regards,

Wabbit04
-Vixen's best BEA liaison!

Stop plugging the website.  

If Vixen wants to vindicate herself, she can explain here.  Why does one have to sign up to find out details?  

Selling email addresses to spammers?  Just a thought.  Not accusing, it's just something I've seen before.

[Wabbit04]

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Stop plugging the website.  

No.

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If Vixen wants to vindicate herself, she can explain here.

Why does she need to vindicate herself - to you?

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Why does one have to sign up to find out details?  

Didn't you have to sign up to post here?  'Nuff said.

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Selling email addresses to spammers?  Just a thought.  

I've been a member of Vixen's website for a very long time and I've never had my e-mail address compromised.

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 Not accusing,

Too late - your accusations started the moment you replied to this thread.  Witness, in regard to Vixen's FDA-approved implants:

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Angelus: "yes, because losing your license for non-FDA approved implants and trashing your entire career is a TOTALLY irrational fear.

Wabbit04
-Vixen's best BEA liaison!

[Angelus]

Wabbit, 20 posts, all plugging Vixen's site, dare I say, you're spamming.  But that's just me.

And BTW... I still haven't heard any refutal of why Vixen was refused medical treatment solely because she had large implants and how idiotic that sounds.

She's willing to tell us she's going to Mexico for something dangerous that's not FDA approved, and then says she's FDA approved, and she knows great plastic surgeons in Mexico!

But WHY she had to go the Mexico?  Well, that's top secret.

But... but... she knows great plastic surgeons here.

Do you see the problem here, Wabbit?  There's just too many inconsistencies.  If Vixen wants to use the BEA as a platform for "donations", then a little honesty is asked for.  That's all.

If not, we don't need the constant updates about her health.  People who want to read about her will go there.

BTW, I've had a few people telling me that there aren't really any details about Vixen's exact problem on her site.  Got a direct link or a thread, Wabbit?

[DruulEmpire]

May as well lock up this thread too, Palomine.

[Nimrod]

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judging from the threads and hearing from various forum members and reading the stuff posted by vixen, angelus and various others I draw my conclusions and Angelus seems to make a whole lot of sense

Simply put, I agree with Shara.

Normally this sort of back and forth Forum ruckus would not even register on my radar, however I do not like the assertion that was made about the Forum in general.

My sweet Kithara has received tons of emotional support from the Forum about her medical conditions which could kill her in a matter of hours if not kept in check.

She garnered that support by being open, sharing, and an encouraged contributor to the Forum. That is  the best thing about it. People can be surprisingly nice here if they feel they are dealing with authenticity. If that level of trust becomes suspect it takes a lot of effort to repair.

If anyone feels slighted by something on the Forum then deal with it on the Forum. Be honest and open and ask for what you really need. Explain why you  feel the way you do and let others form their opinions from what is disclosed, not from what must be inferred or surmised or worst yet, taken from third parties on remote web sites.

I do not take exception with this specific thread, it has said what needs to be said, however I do not like the lack of belief that a problem created on the Forum can not be resolved on the Forum.

Vixen - Kith and I are glad to hear that your health is on the mend, get even better and hope to hear how you are doing soon - back here.

Angelus - You have taken what was disclosed on the  Forum and have run with it. It can be hard to balance your interest to support Vixen yet match it up with your well developed sense of honesty and truthfulness. Work toward consensus as a way to show your support.

Wabbit - Be aware that you only have your posts on the Forum for others to glean an understanding of your intentions. If you take exception to what is being said, then collect your ideas and present them in your own words.

Shara - Time to switch sides of the field, the sun is in my eyes and it makes it hard to referee.

Everyone, play nice.  

[Carter]

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May as well lock up this thread too, Palomine.

Not going to happen. The mods have discussed this and we're letting this one play out.

[DruulEmpire]

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May as well lock up this thread too, Palomine.

Not going to happen. The mods have discussed this and we're letting this one play out.

Sorry about that, it was more of a grim joke, but it was still wrong of me to toy with such a drastic suggestion.  I can see this is a valid discussion -- it just feels stale and moot to me, since a dialog should involve two parties, and with one party gone about the only thing that seems to be left is for people to go on agreeing "Yup, she sounded fishy."

[notty]

I don't see the problem, because there isn't one.  If people want to give Vixen money, for whatever reason, that is their perogative.

If you feel some obligation toward those you believe are misled, take my advice and let those feelings drift.  There are lessons only bitter experience can teach.  Some guy posting on a forum will not suffice.

If you feel that physicians and surgeons have been slighted, don't sweat it, because I'm pretty sure an uninformed opinion matters not to them.  Doctors are far beyond those who criticize them, and they know it.

If it's solicitation that has you riled, I suggest you take it up with the moderators, rather than the solicitors.

I've spoken my piece, and counted to three.

[MunchWolf]

Personally, I support Vixen

-Munch "that's all I'll say on that" Wolf

[Shara]

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Shara - Time to switch sides of the field, the sun is in my eyes and it makes it hard to referee.

I'm gonna sound silly now but I have no idea what you mean with that line

[Tesseract]

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Personally, I support Vixen

-Munch "that's all I'll say on that" Wolf

I support her as well.
And I don't trust ANYONE!
Glad to see you're OK Vix.
Gotta love trolls.

[xmarx52]

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Personally, I support Vixen

-Munch "that's all I'll say on that" Wolf

I'm with Munch on this.  What I find interesting is that the people who gave money of their own free will seem to have no problem with it and the ones who are troubled with it didn't donate but want to complain about it.  

Quite honestly I have seen Vixen post so many free pics on this forum and add so much in the way of conversation and information that I don't really care if she bought lollipops with the money I sent her.  I'm a big boy, I earn my own money and I sent her what I was comfortable with sending. Its nobodys business but mine and her's.

My PC is filled with pics of her that she shared with all of us here long before she even started her web site and I find it odd that people seem to forget that and only want to now accuse her of being out for money or something.

Lets see now, she posts pics of herself for free, makes a lot of people smile, and added a lot of fun to the forum. Yes definitely we should stone her for her sins. Whatever...