[eliasperrian]

Someone over on reddit posted a link to Asa Akira's podcasts. She's interviewing some guy called Christian X who I've never heard of. I do know who Asa is (American porn-star of Japanese descent). Anyway, the conversation shifts to Hitomi at one point and apparently this guy, Christian X, had really tried to get Hitomi to come over to the US and do a scene -- offered her pretty much whatever she wanted. Asa, who's a friend (or at least a good acquaintance) of Hitomi's explained that doing a scene where penetration was shown would end her career in Japan. They both, though, speculated on how much Hitomi would make in the US and, by their standards, they figured it would be a lot. But, Asa said, Hitomi is a national treasure. She doesn't really understand it, she's a bit over-the-top for most Japanese tastes apparently and was really suprised when Asa told her that she's the number 1 international Japanese porn star. I guess this falls in the 'for what it's worth' category....

[ikari]

So, basically, she's aware that she could come to the US and make more money by doing uncensored porn, but she'd rather (for lack of a better way to put it) still be able to go home afterwards.

[solvegas]

I've been to Japan when I served in the US Navy and I can tell you, whether the politically correct agree or not, that Japan and the Japanese are a very racist people and can't tolerate " gaijin " having sex with their women. This is not only Japanese, this is very prevalent in Asia overall. These are not immigrant societies and they are very homogenous. The Philippines is the major exception but then it is a mixed culture with Malay, Chinese, Spanish ( only Asian country with a majority Christian population for example and very Catholic ) and American. There were instances in Japan we were refused service not only because we were gaijin but the proprietors would truthfully tell you that our black shipmates were forbidden.  I'm not talking the 1950's, I'm talking the 1990's. I'll always remember how as we walked in the streets of Yokosuka, Sasebo, Tokyo and more how the Japanese would glance at us and their facial expressions were of ill disguised disgust very often like " what are you doing here ? " . Yes, many were nice but it was merely good manners, not a sign for friendship. The few women we were able to have a conversation really all they wanted was a way to practice their English for business purposes. So am I surprised that Hitomi won't do hardcore in the USA ? No, because in Japan the saying " The nail that sticks out gets hammered down " is very much in effect and if she wishes to remain in Japan where her family  and friends are, there are lines that you don't cross.

[Prof Morearty]

I find many Japanese attitudes weird.  It's legal to screw a 13-year-old with her consent, and it's allowed to portray all kinds of sex acts that many would call perverted, but under no circumstances can you show erections or detailed female genitalia (I presume there's some exemption for medical texts).  I am a little distracted by the fogged-out images, but my attention quickly and happily returns to pumping pelvises and huge bouncing bosoms like Hitomi's.

That reminds me: I have a fantastic short clip of Hitomi bouncing mightily as she (supposedly) approaches orgasm.  I'll try to make a gif and post it here in the hope that one of the many enthusiastic fans of  Hitomi can ID the video.

[TheZookie007]

Forgive me all for this tangent but I think these statements need to be addressed and given more accurate context.

I've been to Japan when I served in the US Navy and I can tell you, whether the politically correct agree or not, that Japan and the Japanese are a very racist people and can't tolerate " gaijin " having sex with their women. This is not only Japanese, this is very prevalent in Asia overall.

Well, look at it from their point of view. I wouldn't be all that pleased to have gaijin (especially white American naval gaijin) coming over to fuck with my women after they've been fucking over my entire country since Commodore Perry barged in in 1853.

I don't think the Japanese, as a people group, are any more racist than Americans are, on an individual basis. And on an institutional basis, the Japanese are most definitely not as racist as the Americans are. You don't see their police gunning down non-Japanese people (whether immigrants or residents) on a daily basis and then turning around and trying to blame the victim of the shooting for being shot, for example.   

These are not immigrant societies and they are very homogenous.

The myth of Japanese (and Korean, and Chinese) "homogeneity" is often trotted out to justify any examples of their xenophobia but is just that, a myth. There are many, very oppressed minority ethnic groups in all three countries, and there's even cross-oppression going on, as in the minority Japanese who are of Korean descent. As for their immigration policies, while historically rather strict (and often quite arbitrary), with the age-shift of their population, that has been changing.

The Philippines is the major exception but then it is a mixed culture with Malay, Chinese, Spanish ( only Asian country with a majority Christian population for example and very Catholic ) and American.

The imperial powers of Europe and the United States literally fucked over the Philippines, resulting in the mix of peoples there today. It also was a direct cause of the epidemic of Filipinos trying their best to lighten their skin via dangerous chemicals, all the better to emulate their colonizers. Because again, the indigenous people of the archipelago such as the Aeta have almost been bred out of existence, and those that still are there are not having a good time of it. (And they tend to have darker skin than the current political elites do.)

There were instances in Japan we were refused service not only because we were gaijin but the proprietors would truthfully tell you that our black shipmates were forbidden.  I'm not talking the 1950's, I'm talking the 1990's.

This is true. There is lots of anti-black sentiment perpetuated by the Japanese, sometimes of their own accord but more often because of their exposure to white American anti-black sentiment which they then modeled. (I was never more shocked than to see Chinese and Japanese TV shows broadcasting performers in blackface like it was nothing at all.) But there's another reason why Japanese brothels and soaplands refuse service to non-Japanese: the language barrier. They are afraid that when they say "no" to some gaijin performing some sex act on them, the gaijin won't be able to understand it and will start acting the fool, probably violently. There is a reason why the stereotype of "the ugly American" persists. Look at that arsewipe Logan Paul, for instance.

I'll always remember how as we walked in the streets of Yokosuka, Sasebo, Tokyo and more how the Japanese would glance at us and their facial expressions were of ill disguised disgust very often like " what are you doing here ? " .

Because in your naval uniforms, you were the walking, talking embodiment of imperial American oppression. And after all the nonsense that US Marines did and continue to do in Okinawa, what did you expect? I'd be pissed off too. (I know there's a difference between sailors and Marines, but do you expect them to know or to care about that difference? They're going to lump you all in the same group, I'm afraid.)

Another point: perhaps what you interpreted as "ill-disguised disgust" was due to something else? You don't speak the language, you don't know what their body language actually means, you don't have more than merely a surface-level understanding of the cultural and historical reasons for Japanese behavior in public (omote) as opposed to that same behavior in private (ura), and you don't have much interaction with them other than those two or three seconds when you were passing by. You may have no idea whether or not they truly were "disgusted". You could have been projecting your own feelings onto them.

Yes, many were nice but it was merely good manners, not a sign for friendship.

The Japanese are just like Seattleites in that way It's omote and ura again, which is literally very foreign to white Americans in particular and to non-Japanese people in general. Hell, it's foreign to me as well and even though I talk about it and experience it all the time, I still find it hard to grok sometimes

The few women we were able to have a conversation really all they wanted was a way to practice their English for business purposes.

Even though English is taught in Japan from the 5th grade upwards, it's taught in such a theoretical way that the spoken part of it is not very well taught. That is one of the reasons why white Americans are swarmed by Japanese when in Japan: finally, they can get a chance to practice their spoken English with a person who speaks the language.

So am I surprised that Hitomi won't do hardcore in the USA ? No, because in Japan the saying " The nail that sticks out gets hammered down " is very much in effect and if she wishes to remain in Japan where her family  and friends are, there are lines that you don't cross.

The Aussies call that "tall poppy syndrome". It's a near-universal human attribute to make non-conformists try to conform to societal "norms", not just a Japanese one. That's why we have sites like this which are devoted to one particular supposedly-non-universal "fetish", and why the love of breast expansion and big, big, big breasts is not considered a mainstream thing. At least, not yet

[TheZookie007]

I find many Japanese attitudes weird.

The feeling is mutual, I assure you I've never understood the whole used-panties-vending-machine thing myself.

I am a little distracted by the fogged-out images, but my attention quickly and happily returns to pumping pelvises and huge bouncing bosoms like Hitomi's.

The feeling is mutual, I assure you

That reminds me: I have a fantastic short clip of Hitomi bouncing mightily as she (supposedly) approaches orgasm.  I'll try to make a gif and post it here in the hope that one of the many enthusiastic fans of  Hitomi can ID the video.

Yes, please! After that wall of text I just threw up, I know many would appreciate less of me and more of Hitomi in action!

Anyone want a Red Bull?

[3deroticer]

Back in the 80's I had a Japanese, Nigerian and a Detroit-er as my college dorm room occupant. We sat often at the table for meals and talk about culture differences and perception. I learn a lot of how the CIA screw other countries election, and the navy exploits of the women near the base of Okinawa. I enjoyed their company and thought both of them were very educated and compassionate people. So even in the late 80's the military were un-restrain by the law to abuse the local women. It was only until rather recent that the USA look deeper when the Japanese wanted to get rid of the base on that account alone. I ask how did the navy let it go on for so long? Was it that they felt they were dued to sexual favor for protecting their land instead of protecting their own land? Desperate for sex? Japanese do spend plastic surgery money to look more American. I have heard a few jokes that we supposedly have said about the slant eye appearances of the Asian. I have had many Asian taking my Tai Chi classes, and have not felt any indifference attitude of my teaching it. 

[Meatman]

I don’t believe any of this cultural business being the reason for Japanese actresses not coming to America and shooting hardcore.I think it has everything to do with the Yakuza telling these poor women not to do that or else.Google “yakazu and porn” and read the many articles.I will never be convinced that the Yakazu does not control everything and everyone in the Japanese porn industry.

[Prof Morearty]

Someone over on reddit posted a link to Asa Akira's podcasts. She's interviewing some guy called Christian X who I've never heard of. I do know who Asa is (American porn-star of Japanese descent). Anyway, the conversation shifts to Hitomi at one point and apparently this guy, Christian X, had really tried to get Hitomi to come over to the US and do a scene -- offered her pretty much whatever she wanted. Asa, who's a friend (or at least a good acquaintance) of Hitomi's explained that doing a scene where penetration was shown would end her career in Japan. They both, though, speculated on how much Hitomi would make in the US and, by their standards, they figured it would be a lot. But, Asa said, Hitomi is a national treasure. She doesn't really understand it, she's a bit over-the-top for most Japanese tastes apparently and was really suprised when Asa told her that she's the number 1 international Japanese porn star. I guess this falls in the 'for what it's worth' category....

"...doing a scene where penetration was shown would end her career in Japan. "
This doesn't make any sense.  Penetration is shown in all of her HC films.  The fogging (pixelation?) does not conceal her oral and vaginal penetration: Hitomi clearly fucks and sucks (yay!). Her enthusiastic participation is clear (yayyy!). So that practice apparently does not damage her reputation or provoke moral indignation among Japanese.

So there's no problem with her fucking and sucking. But apparently there is with the graphic portrayal thereof.  OK, weird, but maybe that's the way it is.  But hey: Hitomi has no responsibility for that. She does what she does (yayyyyyy!) but her action's graphic presentation is the work of the movie's editor and producer. So why should she be ostracized for behaving exactly the same way when her action is openly displayed, in a country where it is legal to do so?

"she's a bit over-the-top for most Japanese tastes apparently and was really surprised when Asa told her that she's the number 1 international Japanese porn star"
Another bit I don't understand.  Hitomi has starred in many Japanese HC films: I presume they are reasonably popular in Japan, and what do you suppose is the reason?  Her pretty cheerful face?  Her delicate feet?  Her skilled performance?  Well, maybe. But we all know what's unusual about her.  Maybe her breasts are not "over-the-top" for many Japanese?

A final disclaimer: I am delighted that Hitomi exists and that films of her exist, whatever imperfections I see in them.  Because Hitomi is perfect.

[eliasperrian]

I too am delighted that Hitomi exists.  Of course she is popular in Japan but the point is that she is far more popular overseas than any other Japanese porn actress.  She won an award earlier this year as the biggest international selling actress in JAV.  Many of my Japanese friends prefer a different look to Hitomi's.  As far as the law is concerned, I think you are splitting hairs a bit, there is penetration in her movies, of course, but it's pixelated which means it falls within the narrow definition of what is allowed under Japanese law.
 
No, being a porn actress in Japan does not carry the stigma that it does in, say, the US.  A number of Japanese porn actresses have retired from JAV and gone on to careers in mainstream TV or as mainstream-type entertainers. 

The Japanese, in my experience, treat sex far more as a recreation and less as a moral event.  They are comfortable with nudity - I often go to onsens where a bunch of us sit around nude and everyone (except me) feels perfectly relaxed.

Sol is right about attitudes towards gaijin and, particularly, towards gaijin in uniform but I think that has changed over the years.  I've never been denied entry anyplace, including exclusive clubs, but that's always been with my Japanese friends -- I have lots of them and they are far more than just 'polite', they are real friends.  I have found Japanese women, especially professionals, to be open, friendly and certainly 'available' - a lot of that is down to (my bad) the fact that they have good English and I have, basically, no Japanese language skills.  I have numerous gaijin friends - again professionals - who are married to Japanese women (with the blessing of the woman's family), live in Japan and enjoy full acceptance.  They are all completely fluent in the language and I believe that is a key to acceptance.  It's amusing to watch a Japanese totally change how he or she might respond to a gaijin when said gaijin opens up and speaks fluent Japanese.  Over the past 35 years of visiting and working with Japanese, the conundrum I've never quite solved is why the Japanese struggle with English so much more than, say, Taiwanese or Indonesians or even Koreans.  Of course there are more and more fluent English speakers in Japan every year but it's taken longer, it seems to me, for them to get to this point.  Case in point, the other day I was struggling with the schedule display in a main Tokyo rail station and I had two very attractive, polite women, in their 40's or 50's, separately approach me and ask in flawless English if they could be of assistance in helping me figure out what I had to do to get to where I wanted to go.  Thirty-five years ago that wouldn't have happened -- the language and cultural barriers were higher then.

Meantime, back to Hitomi who, in this current heat wave, took to the beach today but wore a modest cover-up thing rather than a bathing suit.  I read in an interview with her (for a Japanese site) that she's quite embarrassed at the attention she draws when she does wear a bikini in a public place.  That's logical: she's got, as far as I can tell, a 1 in 3 billion sort of body and that would be bound to draw attention from both men and women.  While I would never want to embarrass her, if I saw her on a beach in a bikini, I'd certainly embarrass myself!

[Prof Morearty]

Of course she is popular in Japan but the point is that she is far more popular overseas than any other Japanese porn actress.  She won an award earlier this year as the biggest international selling actress in JAV.  Many of my Japanese friends prefer a different look to Hitomi's. 

No, the point is precisely that she is popular in Japan, even if she is not the most popular (or is she?). So there are many Japanese who appreciate big breasts.

As far as the law is concerned, I think you are splitting hairs a bit, there is penetration in her movies, of course, but it's pixelated which means it falls within the narrow definition of what is allowed under Japanese law.

So who is splitting hairs, me or Japanese law? And this bypasses the point I was making, namely that whether a film with Hitomi is breaking the law or not by showing bare genitals, it is not Hitomi's fault and should not dishonor her in anyone's eyes.

Anyway, here is a gif I made of the film.  I know it's a long shot given the quantity of her output, but I'm hoping some Hitomiast can identify and name it 

[eliasperrian]

Of course she is popular in Japan but the point is that she is far more popular overseas than any other Japanese porn actress.  She won an award earlier this year as the biggest international selling actress in JAV.  Many of my Japanese friends prefer a different look to Hitomi's. 

No, the point is precisely that she is popular in Japan, even if she is not the most popular (or is she?). So there are many Japanese who appreciate big breasts.

Oh yes, Professor, and it seems that number grows every year.  Thankfully, so does the number of big-busted Japanese women.

As far as the law is concerned, I think you are splitting hairs a bit, there is penetration in her movies, of course, but it's pixelated which means it falls within the narrow definition of what is allowed under Japanese law.

So who is splitting hairs, me or Japanese law? And this bypasses the point I was making, namely that whether a film with Hitomi is breaking the law or not by showing bare genitals, it is not Hitomi's fault and should not dishonor her in anyone's eyes.

Of course it's Japanese law.  I was just pointing out that, indeed, penetration does occur in her films, and it certainly does no dishonor to Hitomi in any way that this is pixelated.  I relish the fantasy that the un-pixelated versions are just sitting in some R-18/DMM warehouse somewhere waiting for the moment that the absurdity of the law is recognized and we can see her in her full, unpixelated glory.

Anyway, here is a gif I made of the film.  I know it's a long shot given the quantity of her output, but I'm hoping some Hitomiast can identify and name it 

I have to dig through the archives.  I recognize the scene and it's wonderful but there are so many!

Oh, and by the way, just for information (not directed at you, Prof), DMM, the biggest force in JAV, is not at all related to the Yakuza.  It is a highly respected organization that does a lot more than just porn.  It's founder is a famous tech entrepreneur who frequently gives talks at various business schools.  The Yakuza are still heavily involved in the seamier parts of the sex industry but JAV has gone quite nearly main-stream.  Reminds me a bit of when the mafia was forced out (for the most part) of the gaming industry in Las Vegas -- they had money but Howard Hughes had so much more and he was untouchable.  Japan is changing.

[solvegas]

I would like to clarify a bit of misinformation that Zookie 007 stated. Back in 1973, Before I entered the Navy, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, CNO or Chief of Naval Operations, relaxed the dress code for Naval personnel and beginning in 1974, Sailors were allowed to wear civilian clothing while on Liberty ( off duty ) so all the times I was in Japan, seven different occasions, I was never in uniform while out on the town. I joined in 1975. Zumwalt allowed beards, as long as they did not protrude over 3/4 of an inch and were not patchy, and allowed slightly longer hair overall and he got rid of the " cracker jack " uniform ( the traditional jumper uniform with the tar flap on the back of the jacket, bell bottom pants with the 13 button frontal flap, the tie sea knot and the white dixie cup hat ) for a modern uniform which looked more what the Coast Guard and Air Force had. I remember coming back from boot camp home and when my mother ( RIP ) saw what I was wearing and she stated, " I thought you joined the Navy " . Needless to say, this uniform was hated by enlisted personnel. It was heavy, hot and expensive to boot ( no, the government doesn't buy them for you except as a combat loss ). Fortunately the Cracker Jack returned in 1983 by Admiral Holloway and he got rid of the beards, longer hair and the Navy was resuscitated by President Reagan. So, the Japenese never saw me in uniform so saying that we were in an imperial role as Zookie stated is just more of his ignorance of the Military he has exhibited in the past as someone who has never served his country and attacks those who have.

[Prof Morearty]

I sense another quarrel brewing and I want to nip it in the bud.  Let's let Hitomi decide what we should avoid discussing 

[TheZookie007]

One final rebuttal, and then I shall not continue to clutter this particular thread with such off-topic discussions:

So, the Japenese (sic) never saw me in uniform so saying that we were in an imperial role as Zookie stated is just more of his ignorance of the Military he has exhibited in the past as someone who has never served his country and attacks those who have.

I will admit to being wrong in assuming that you were in uniform when you encountered certain Japanese people in the streets of Tokyo way back when, although I could be forgiven that assumption since you referenced your naval service, your shipmates, etc. in what you wrote.

However, you have no idea whether or not I have "served my country" nor in which capacity I have served her, mainly because I have never told you, you have never asked, and also because this is really not the forum for such information to be shared.

Also, I do not and will not "attack" those who have served my country. I will however engage them in fact-based debate from time to time, because serving in this country's armed forces does not make one infallible. Members of our armed forces, whether currently in service or retired, are human beings in the end, and thus can and do make mistakes and are sometimes just plain wrong about things. They are not gods to be put on a pedestal and worshipped and never contradicted. They are men and women, fellow human beings, who are entitled to the respect that is due to every other human being.

Be well.