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Re: Beyond Silicone
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2009, 02:25:45 PM »
i belive that the mother cells would be great for the BE imagine thet inject this, and without surgery and the risks in a month pass from b-cup to d-cup
i belive this is posible, if this tecnike can construct a new hearth form zero enlarge breasts must be easy

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Re: Beyond Silicone
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2009, 12:37:35 PM »
I just met Chelsea Charms -- more on that later -- and while the woman herself is sweet and her body is a visual wonder, the tactile experience was an odd problem.  One expects heaviness, but this was a very concentrated kind of heaviness.  I was hoisting one and then the other, back and forth, and commented "This is great exercise," and she was nice enough to laugh -- but you usually don't expect something from foreplay to feel like exercise.  (Exercise should be in the act itself.)

Augmentations continue to be visually interesting, but now I'm looking to what it takes to expand breasts while still keeping them relatively light and pliable, i.e. fun.

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Re: Beyond Silicone
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2009, 05:11:37 PM »
So where they denser than you expected, Druul?
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Re: Beyond Silicone - Aerogel
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2009, 07:46:41 PM »
Hi again,

since weight is a major issue I was searching for "very low density solids" and came across aerogel. I had heard of it from the NASA project for collecting spacedust to be stopped by it from high speed and trapped in it. So it had to be quite strong material.
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To the touch, aerogels feel like a light but rigid foam, something between Styrofoam and the green floral foam used for arranging flowers. Despite what their name may suggest, aerogels are dry materials and do not resemble a gel in their physical properties; the name comes from the fact that they are derived from gels. Pressing softly on an aerogel typically does not leave a mark; pressing more firmly will leave a permanent dimple. Pressing firmly enough will cause a catastrophic breakdown in the sparse structure, causing it to shatter like glass—a property known as friability. Despite the fact that it is prone to shattering, it is very strong structurally. Its impressive load bearing abilities are due to the dendritic microstructure, in which spherical particles of average size 2-5 nm are fused together into clusters. These clusters form a three-dimensional highly porous structure of almost fractal chains, with pores smaller than 100 nm. The average size and density of the pores can be controlled during the manufacturing process.

Aerogels by themselves are hydrophilic, but chemical treatment can make them hydrophobic. If they absorb moisture they usually suffer a structural change, such as contraction, and deteriorate, but degradation can be prevented by making them hydrophobic. Aerogels with hydrophobic interiors are less susceptible to degradation than aerogels with only an outer hydrophobic layer, even if a crack penetrates the surface. Hydrophobic treatment facilitates processing because it allows the use of a water jet cutter.




The part interesting to us is this:
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Silica aerogel is the most common type of aerogel and the most extensively studied and used. It is a silica-based substance, derived from silica gel. The world's lowest-density solid is a silica nanofoam at 1 mg/cm³, which is the evacuated version of the record-aerogel of 1.9 mg/cm³. The density of air is 1.2 mg/cm³.



So I thought what if you build an implant with a core of that stuff and only a relatively thin "crust" of normal filler around it to make it soft to the touch?

Reading on I found this:
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Aerogel particles are also used as thickening agents in some paints and cosmetics.



So it could be used as small particles in saline or silicone to make it over all lighter.

For the shell of the implant one could embed a mesh of carbon nanotubes since they are extremely strong but also tiny and light but the implant would stretch less.

This together could lead to building implants of 12000 (Chelsea's size) while weighting only 3 or 4 kg still heavy but manageable.

see my chart:
 
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Re: Beyond Silicone - Aerogel
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2009, 12:02:55 AM »
Fascinating!


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Re: Beyond Silicone - Aerogel
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2009, 04:14:44 PM »
It would require some tests before the "authorities" allow to use some of these new material inside the body, but even so the implications of this discoveries (originally intended for other tasks) would have a deep impact in the most unlikely aspects of life.
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Re: Beyond Silicone - Aerogel
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2009, 05:11:44 AM »
Well this stuf is hardly new - I't was discovered in the 1930s and it can be (is used already?) for drug delivery so is no real prob for the body. I guess you would need to test about pressure stability and how it will react to body fluids. Although if embedded into the silicone it would not be exposed to the body so should not be a prob. In any case I think it is worth investigating further.
Maybe some one with contacts could point this out to some implant manufactures?
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Re: Beyond Silicone - Aerogel
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2009, 05:39:48 PM »
Think about this from time to time I thought that a solid core would not e very good since this means the implant would need to have the final shape when implanted. This in turn means the cut for insertion would need to be big enough to fit the full implant through.

I would not like having such a huge scar halve way or more around each breast.
If it could be build as an expander that will be filled with a saline or silicone mixture containing aerogel particles it would be way better.

Maybe I could be a beta test candidate and get them for free once they seem save?

I just watched some videos of PBD and I got so envious again. Oh how I want such beautiful ball like tits.
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Re: Beyond Silicone - Aerogel
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2009, 02:39:16 PM »
I think it deserves to be investigates as any material in the universe, but i'm a "scientist" (lol at least i like to think so)  
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Re: Beyond Silicone
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2009, 11:44:51 AM »
Don't mind me, just *BUMP*ing this back up for ease of access, as I may be thinking about this a little more often and seriously in the months ahead.

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Re: Beyond Silicone
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2009, 02:48:25 PM »
How about using a shear thickening fluid like D3o to make the implant self dampening to violent movement like running. as the fist violent movement of the implant comes to the end of a swing the fluid would thicken in a reaction to the movement and dampen the following movements. Until the the movement stops and gets its normal viscosity.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D3o      

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Re: Beyond Silicone
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2009, 07:01:11 PM »
Hm, a non-Newtonian fluid, eh?

So presumably you could use oobleck as well?

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Re: Beyond Silicone
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2009, 01:39:10 AM »
Yes the as long as it is a non newtonian fluid. the goal of the fill of the implant in this idea is that it will be reacting to the dynamic movements of the breast. If the movement is gentile it will be soft and pliable. Is the movement violent it will become stiffer resisting the movement. 
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Re: Beyond Silicone
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2010, 09:05:23 PM »
Yes the as long as it is a non newtonian fluid. the goal of the fill of the implant in this idea is that it will be reacting to the dynamic movements of the breast. If the movement is gentile it will be soft and pliable. Is the movement violent it will become stiffer resisting the movement. 
That would be great for Busty Heart...  ;D

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Re: Beyond Silicone
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2011, 06:10:25 PM »
bumb - has anyone looked into this more?