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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #690 on: January 07, 2009, 05:50:25 PM »
I'm making a bold prediction.

This thread will still be alive come 2012.

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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #691 on: January 07, 2009, 05:53:41 PM »
Q-BE, I feel I know you as well as I know every square inch of my glorious naked body.
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #692 on: January 07, 2009, 07:49:44 PM »
Sorry, but this Rush-baby has no connections to the Maha Rushie, PregNut.

I suppose you listen to him, though?

Anyway, I would LOVE to meet both him AND Sarah Palin. He's my conservative idol, and she's just gorgeous.

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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #693 on: January 10, 2009, 04:34:39 AM »
And her latest Youtube offerings elicit...what?
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #694 on: January 12, 2009, 04:14:07 PM »
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AZWolf said:
And her latest Youtube offerings elicit...what?



Come again?

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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #695 on: January 25, 2009, 02:08:06 AM »
Why do people keep on talking about her? The more you put the spotlight on her, the more her incompetence is revealed. A sensible person would know when to slink away and go under the radar but I guess she and/or her handlers do not qualify as sensible. Case in point:

Huffington Post: "Palin's $180,000 Campaign Clothes "Stuffed In Trash Bags" At RNC Headquarters: NewMajority (VIDEO, SLIDESHOW)"

You still haven't handed the clothes out to the charities two months after the election, and yet you wonder why people are always casting stones at S.P.? Oh, brother.
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #696 on: January 25, 2009, 02:18:18 AM »
Also, I am very glad that Caroline Kennedy didn't get to be the replacement for Hillary Clinton as the junior senator from New York. It was nice that Gov. Paterson chose someone from upstate for once (too many New York City people in Washington already) but I personally wished he'd kicked Attorney-General Cuomo upstairs.
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Huffington Post: "Sarah Palin and Caroline Kennedy Aren't Victims of Glass Ceilings, There is Something Wrong with the Floor."

In this morning's Washington Post, discussing the recent political experiences of Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, and Caroline Kennedy, Anne Kornblut asks whether a glass ceiling still exists for women in politics.
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Like Hillary Rodham Clinton and Sarah Palin before her, Kennedy illustrated what some say is an enduring double standard in the handling of ambitious female office-seekers. Even as more women step forward as contenders for premier political jobs, observers say, few seem able to get there.


There is a major problem with suggesting that there is a glass ceiling holding women back from being appointed to the Senate. One, Hillary Clinton already won that seat. Two, Kirsten Gillibrand, a woman, is being appointed by Governor Paterson to succeed Clinton. If there truly is a glass ceiling holding women back, then Gillibrand must have one hell of an operatic voice to cause that ceiling to shatter.

Kornblut is not the first to make this assertion. In fact, in an interview with John Ziegler, Sarah Palin herself wondered how the media would handle Caroline Kennedy and the implications for what that would say about how the media dealt with her:
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"I've been interested to see how Caroline Kennedy will be handled and if she will be handled with kid gloves or if she will be under such a microscope. ... It's going to be interesting to see how that plays out and I think that as we watch that we will perhaps be able to prove that there is a class issue here also that was such a factor in the scrutiny of my candidacy versus, say, the scrutiny of what her candidacy may be."


Palin assumed that Kennedy would get the royal treatment from the media and that this would prove a more global theme regarding media elitism against herself and by proxy the average Joe the American.

Palin was wrong, though. The media's treatment of her was not classism. Kennedy was skewered in the media and was criticized for many of the same faults Palin exhibited: unpreparedness and confusion of thought and position. Kornblut was also wrong though. Women in general are not being held back from the Senate. Caroline Kennedy was being held back from the Senate. Women are not unelectable as a vice presidential candidate, Sarah Palin was unelectable.

That is not to suggest that there are no issues with the way women are viewed in public life. It is just that looking at the glass ceiling is the wrong issue to examine.

There is a difficult ceiling to break through for public office. That ceiling stopped both Palin and Kennedy. That is not the problem, though. In fact, that is a good thing. They needed to be blocked. Both Palin and Kennedy were obviously unprepared for the offices each sought. Had a ceiling not stopped them, we would have more serious social issues to deal with.

However, there is still a problem and an implicit sexism in the handling of these women. It is not that the ceiling for them was too thick, but that the floors on which they stood to reach those ceilings were shoddily built on rickety foundations. The sexism is not that they were stopped from achieving their high ideals of public office, rather it is the very fact that they even got as close to these positions as they did.

This is, to slightly alter the phrase, the subtle sexism of low expectations. I am glad that both Kennedy and Palin were stopped by a ceiling, but I am saddened that with their unimpressive command of the issues, they were so easily propped up in the rafters. As long as the Sarah Palins and Caroline Kennedys continue to get this close, the subtle sexism of low expectations will continue to hound our society.

So forget the ceiling, and let's do something about fixing the floor.


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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #697 on: January 25, 2009, 06:38:13 AM »
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No really, can we please staple her to Joe the douchebag and file her in the "who gives a fuck anymore" file?
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #698 on: January 25, 2009, 08:14:31 AM »
You have a point there, dude.
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #699 on: January 27, 2009, 05:33:42 AM »
I watched her speaking locally 1/25 in Alaska, without bufferng  She looked at least 10 years older, and at least as clueless.
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #700 on: January 27, 2009, 06:21:23 AM »
 
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 I watched her speaking locally 1/25 in Alaska, without bufferng She looked at least 10 years older, and at least as clueless.  


But is she still hot? That's what's important.
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Re: Sarah Palin
« Reply #701 on: January 27, 2009, 10:52:01 AM »
Who cares about whether Sarah P. is hot or not? It's all about Bristol now.
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No shotgun wedding after all...
« Reply #702 on: March 11, 2009, 10:32:24 PM »
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Huffington Post: "Bristol Palin, Levi Johnston Split Up: CONFIRMED"

The engagement is off for the teenage daughter of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and the father of her baby. Levi Johnston told The Associated Press on Wednesday that he and Bristol Palin mutually decided "a while ago" to end their relationship. The 19-year-old Johnston declined to elaborate.

Eighteen-year-old Bristol Palin says in a statement to the AP that she is "devastated."

The two are the parents of a boy named Tripp, who was born Dec. 27...

"Levi tries to visit Tripp every single day, but Bristol makes it nearly impossible. She tells him he can't take the baby to our house because she doesn't want him around 'white trash'!" Bristol won't even allow him to watch the baby for a few hours -- unless he's babysitting!


Bristol Palin calling Levi Johnston "white trash"??? Ms. Pot, say hello to Mr. Kettle.
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Re: No shotgun wedding after all...
« Reply #703 on: March 12, 2009, 06:05:21 AM »
I think I just dislocated my "I told you so" bone.
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Re: No shotgun wedding after all...
« Reply #704 on: March 12, 2009, 08:35:03 AM »
You and most everyone else, R&H (myself included).  Of course, there's bound to be a chunk of the populace who are in genuine shock over this revelation.  Those people should be avoided at all costs.  

If nothing else, it's validation that we're not living in Topsy Turvy Land.