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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #420 on: October 23, 2008, 05:36:28 PM »
Looks like Obama earned yet another  endorsement.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #421 on: October 23, 2008, 05:57:40 PM »
McCain won the endorsement from Al-Quieda!
"Yesterday, Reince Priebus called this whole story a 'nothing burger,'" he said. "Well these emails have turned it into an all-you-can-prosecute buffet."

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #422 on: October 23, 2008, 06:04:57 PM »
Preg, dude -- Larijani is a potential OPPONENT of Ahmadinejad.

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #423 on: October 24, 2008, 04:49:21 PM »
The whole world wants and is endorsing Obama, so having an Iranian opposition leader express his hopes that he wins, in a rational world, should not raise a fuss. But you can guarantee that the Palindrones out there will try and use this against him. Those nitwits can't tell the difference between Iraq and Iran anyways, so no great loss. I'm more concerned about prominent Republicans who now are endorsing Obama, the so-called "Obamacans", chief amongst whom is General Colin Powell. That should have more sway than the words of any Iranian, in my opinion.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #424 on: October 24, 2008, 05:11:53 PM »
Scott McClellan just now endorse O'Bama! But that will be dismiss that he get the endorsement from another Irishman!
"Yesterday, Reince Priebus called this whole story a 'nothing burger,'" he said. "Well these emails have turned it into an all-you-can-prosecute buffet."

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #425 on: October 24, 2008, 05:14:33 PM »
I guess it doesn't surprise me much.  Aren't most of those people slightly right of center?
To paraphrase Poul Anderson, "Intelligence is a wonderful thing. It provides us with reasons for doing what we were going to do anyway."

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #426 on: October 25, 2008, 06:27:10 AM »
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I guess it doesn't surprise me much.  Aren't most of those people slightly right of center?




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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #427 on: October 26, 2008, 01:48:41 AM »
Yes, the New York Times has endorsed Barack Obama, not such a surprise I suppose. One of the letters to the editor put it best:
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To the Editor:

Thank you for your elegant, articulate and powerful editorial in support of Barack Obama. For many of us, this election has come to symbolize not only a vote for Mr. Obama versus John McCain, but also a vote for reason versus ignorance.

The blogs supporting Mr. McCain are filled with a rage and hatred so intense as to sear the page in front of me. The hatred whipped up at rallies and by some representatives has been truly appalling.

A vote for Mr. Obama is a vote for hope; a vote for Mr. McCain seems to have become a vote representing the worst of our extremists.

And I wonder why this should really be. They have been in power for 20 of the last 28 years.

Does anyone else wonder what the extreme right is so angry about?


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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #428 on: October 26, 2008, 04:58:28 AM »
 
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 The whole world wants and is endorsing Obama


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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #429 on: October 26, 2008, 11:18:24 PM »
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #430 on: October 27, 2008, 11:38:57 AM »
 
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #431 on: October 28, 2008, 01:09:33 AM »
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #432 on: October 28, 2008, 01:21:18 AM »
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Yahoo! News: "Feds disrupt alleged plot targeting Obama"

Two white supremacists allegedly plotted to go on a national killing spree, shooting and decapitating black people and ultimately targeting Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, federal authorities said Monday.

In all, the two men whom officials described as neo-Nazi skinheads planned to kill 88 people — 14 by beheading, according to documents unsealed in U.S. District Court in Jackson, Tenn. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

The spree, which initially targeted an unidentified predominantly African-American school, was to end with the two men driving toward Obama, "shooting at him from the windows," the documents show.

"Both individuals stated they would dress in all-white tuxedos and wear top hats during the assassination attempt," the court complaint states. "Both individuals further stated they knew they would and were willing to die during this attempt."

An Obama spokeswoman traveling with the senator in Pennsylvania had no immediate comment.

Sheriffs' deputies in Crockett County, Tenn., arrested the two suspects — Daniel Cowart, 20, of Bells, Tenn., and Paul Schlesselman 18, of Helena-West Helena, Ark. — Oct. 22 on unspecified charges. "Once we arrested the defendants and suspected they had violated federal law, we immediately contacted federal authorities," said Crockett County Sheriff Troy Klyce.

The two were charged by federal authorities Monday with possessing an unregistered firearm, conspiring to steal firearms from a federally licensed gun dealer, and threatening a candidate for president.

Cowart and Schlesselman were being held without bond. Agents seized a rifle, a sawed-off shotgun and three pistols from the men when they were arrested. Authorities alleged the two men were preparing to break into a gun shop to steal more.

Jasper Taylor, city attorney in Bells, said Cowart was arrested Wednesday. He was held for a few days in Bells, then moved over the weekend to another facility.

Until his arrest, Cowart lived with his grandparents in a southern, rural part of the county, Taylor said, adding that Cowart apparently never graduated from high school. He moved away, possibly to Arkansas or Texas, then returned over the summer, Taylor said.

Attorney Joe Byrd, who has been hired to represent Cowart, said in a written statement that he was was investigating the charges against his client and would have no further comment. Messages left on two telephone numbers listed under Cowart's name were not immediately returned.

No telephone number for Schlesselman in Helena-West Helena could be found immediately.

The court documents say the two men met about a month ago on the Internet and found common ground in their shared "white power" and "skinhead" philosophy.

The numbers 14 and 88 are symbols in skinhead culture, referring to a 14-word phrase attributed to an imprisoned white supremacist: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children" and to the eighth letter of the alphabet, H. Two "8"s or "H"s stand for "Heil Hitler."

Court records say Cowart and Schlesselman also bought nylon rope and ski masks to use in a robbery or home invasion to fund their spree, during which they allegedly planned to go from state to state and kill people. Agents said the skinheads did not name the African-American school they were targeting.

Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville, Tenn., field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives, said authorities took the threats very seriously.

"They said that would be their last, final act — that they would attempt to kill Sen. Obama," Cavanaugh said. "They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying."

He added: "They seemed determined to do it. Even if they were just to try it, it would be a trail of tears around the South."...


And so it begins...McCain's chickens are starting to come home to roost...
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #433 on: October 28, 2008, 01:26:26 AM »
...but fortunately, some people still have a shred of decency left:
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Talking Points Memo: "Dozens Of Call Center Workers Walk Off Job In Protest Rather Than Read McCain Script Attacking Obama"

Some three dozen workers at a telemarketing call center in Indiana walked off the job rather than read an incendiary McCain campaign script attacking Barack Obama, according to two workers at the center and one of their parents.

Nina Williams, a stay-at-home mom in Lake County, Indiana, tells us that her daughter recently called her from her job at the center, upset that she had been asked to read a script attacking Obama for being "dangerously weak on crime," "coddling criminals," and for voting against "protecting children from danger."

Williams' daughter told her that up to 40 of her co-workers had refused to read the script, and had left the call center after supervisors told them that they would have to either read the call or leave, Williams says. The call center is called Americall, and it's located in Hobart, IN.

"They walked out," Williams says of her daughter and her co-workers, adding that they weren't fired but willingly sacrificed pay rather than read the lines. "They were told [by supervisors], 'If you all leave, you're not gonna get paid for the rest of the day.'"

The daughter, who wanted her name withheld fearing retribution from her employer, confirmed the story to us. "It was like at least 40 people," the daughter said. "People thought the script was nasty and they didn't wanna read it."

A second worker at the call center confirmed the episode, saying that "at least 30" workers had walked out after refusing to read the script.

"We were asked to read something saying [Obama and Democrats] were against protecting children from danger," this worker said. "I wouldn't do it. A lot of people left. They thought it was disgusting."

This worker, too, confirmed sacrificing pay to walk out, saying her supervisor told her: "If you don't wanna phone it you can just go home for the day."

The script coincided with this robo-slime call running in other states, but because robocalling is illegal in Indiana it was being read by call center workers.

Representatives at Americall in Indiana, and at the company's corporate headquarters in Naperville, Illinois, didn't return calls for comment.


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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #434 on: October 28, 2008, 01:31:08 AM »
AP Fact Check: "McCain persists in exaggerations"

And that is the greatest problem with his campaign. He spends all his time telling how bad Obama is or will be, lying as he does so, and nearly no time extolling what exactly he intends to do if he would win. That's no way to run a campaign, and that's no way to run a country...and that's why, in a fair election, McCain will and should lose.
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