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« Reply #5370 on: October 31, 2016, 06:31:46 PM »
I don't know who is in charge of making Clinton's campaign ads, but they are doing an unbelievable job.

In 1964, the Democrats ran an ad they called "Confessions of a Republican", which had real-life Republican Bill Bogert talking to the camera about why he couldn't support Goldwater. The Clinton campaign tracked him down, and got him to redo the ad, but this time being against Trump for the same reasons.

Well, the Clinton campaign just released a new ad. It features Monique Corzilius Luiz talking about how Trump's stance on nuclear weapons scares her (as it should all sane people - see note below). The awesome bit? She was the little girl in the famous "Daisy" ad in 1964!

You really have to tip your hat to them for finding these people and getting them to appear again.

Note: One might think that the President has to get an OK from someone - or at least check with someone - before he launches the nukes. Not true. "He could launch a kind of devastating attack the world's never seen. He doesn't have to check with anybody. He doesn't have to call the Congress. He doesn't have to check with the courts. He has that authority because of the nature of the world we live in." (Dick Cheney, in a 2008 interview) The only "check" built into the system is that the Secretary of Defense must confirm the order to launch. But he does not have veto power. No one does.......
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« Reply #5371 on: October 31, 2016, 10:28:56 PM »
That website smells funny. Like that thing that begins with an S and ends in hit.

But if it was from something like Washington Post or CNN then it would be credible?

Here CNN's Chris Cuomo admits CNN is promoting Hillary. Thats the free press standard for you. Or maybe Hillary has called CNN the "gold standard" of journalism.

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Meanwhile, a secondary website has been established to highlight the top 100 most damaging/revealing emails.

Top 100 Most Damaging Wikileaks

This list contains titles, links of proof, quotes from the links, and commentary from Reddit. Think to yourself how many people have been fired due to all these leaks and how many people have been forced to step down. Assuming of course that you can think for yourself.

"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it." George Orwell

1. Obama lied: he knew about Hillary’s secret server and wrote to her
    using a pseudonym, cover-up happened (intent to destroy evidence)

2. Hillary Clinton dreams of completely "open borders”

3. Hillary Clinton received money from and supported nations that she
    KNEW funded ISIS and terrorists

4. Hillary has public positions on policy and her private ones

5. Paying people to incite violence and unrest at Trump rallies

6. Hillary's campaign wants "unaware" and "compliant" citizens

7. Top Hillary aides mock Catholics for their faith

8. Hillary deleted her incriminating emails. State covered it up. Asked
    about using White House executive privilege to hide from Congress.

9. Bribery: King of Morocco gave Clinton Foundation $12 million
    for a meeting with Hillary, 6 months later Morocco gets weapons

10. State Department tried to bribe FBI to un-classify Clinton emails
      (FBI docs)

***11. Hillary caught on tape about rigging the Palestine election
      (audio)
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5372 on: November 01, 2016, 10:53:56 AM »
Pat Condell on US-election. Worth to think about his thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/v/watch?v=sHCul_DIM_4

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« Reply #5373 on: November 01, 2016, 11:10:09 PM »
That website smells funny. Like that thing that begins with an S and ends in hit.

But if it was from something like Washington Post or CNN then it would be credible?

Here CNN's Chris Cuomo admits CNN is promoting Hillary. Thats the free press standard for you. Or maybe Hillary has called CNN the "gold standard" of journalism.

_________

Meanwhile, a secondary website has been established to highlight the top 100 most damaging/revealing emails.

Top 100 Most Damaging Wikileaks

This list contains titles, links of proof, quotes from the links, and commentary from Reddit. Think to yourself how many people have been fired due to all these leaks and how many people have been forced to step down. Assuming of course that you can think for yourself.

"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it." George Orwell

1. Obama lied: he knew about Hillary’s secret server and wrote to her
    using a pseudonym, cover-up happened (intent to destroy evidence)

2. Hillary Clinton dreams of completely "open borders”

3. Hillary Clinton received money from and supported nations that she
    KNEW funded ISIS and terrorists

4. Hillary has public positions on policy and her private ones

5. Paying people to incite violence and unrest at Trump rallies

6. Hillary's campaign wants "unaware" and "compliant" citizens

7. Top Hillary aides mock Catholics for their faith

8. Hillary deleted her incriminating emails. State covered it up. Asked
    about using White House executive privilege to hide from Congress.

9. Bribery: King of Morocco gave Clinton Foundation $12 million
    for a meeting with Hillary, 6 months later Morocco gets weapons

10. State Department tried to bribe FBI to un-classify Clinton emails
      (FBI docs)

***11. Hillary caught on tape about rigging the Palestine election
      (audio)

Very interesting so far. Right now I have to get to bed but I will pore over these tomorrow night. Thanks for the link!

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« Reply #5374 on: November 03, 2016, 07:15:00 PM »
2. Hillary Clinton dreams of completely "open borders”

So? Wouldn't it be nice (or at least better) if everyone were trustworthy and we could allow open passage across all international borders? People could travel all over the world without having to worry about tourist visas and all that stupid paperwork? Nations respected each other and honored international agreements?

It's a DREAM, not a stated goal. I have dreams where I'm Pope and I visit the US and hit the talk show circuit and give sermons in Las Vegas. But I know it ain't gonna happen.....

3. Hillary Clinton received money from and supported nations that she
    KNEW funded ISIS and terrorists

Did that money go directly into her pocket? If it went to the Clinton Foundation, we know (thanks to the openness of the Foundation and Clinton's release of her tax returns) that she gets not a single penny from the Foundation. And we know Saudi Arabia funds terrorists....but they've been good friends and allies for decades. If that's a sin, both Bushes are just as guilty......

4. Hillary has public positions on policy and her private ones

So? How much do you say about people behind their backs that you wouldn't say to their faces? There's a difference between what one would LIKE TO do and what one realizes is possible and can actually accomplish.

5. Paying people to incite violence and unrest at Trump rallies

Not really true; it's a standard campaign strategy to "bait" people at rallies.

9. Bribery: King of Morocco gave Clinton Foundation $12 million
    for a meeting with Hillary, 6 months later Morocco gets weapons

Again, Clinton gets no money from the Foundation (which, by the way, has helped countless numbers of people around the world in many ways). And it's her fucking JOB as the Secretary of State to meet with foreign leaders, like the King of Morocco..... And considering how many weapons we sell around the world, Morocco might have just as cheaply paid for them directly.

And even if everything else were the god's honest truth..... she's still the best, most capable, and most likely to Get Shit Done presidential candidate we've had in ages.

Yes, she can be a bitch. BUT BITCHES GET SHIT DONE.
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A fantabulous night to make romance
'Neath the cover of October skies
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To the sound of the breezes that blow...

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« Reply #5375 on: November 03, 2016, 07:59:08 PM »
2. Hillary Clinton dreams of completely "open borders”

So? Wouldn't it be nice (or at least better) if everyone were trustworthy and we could allow open passage across all international borders? People could travel all over the world without having to worry about tourist visas and all that stupid paperwork? Nations respected each other and honored international agreements?

It's a DREAM, not a stated goal. I have dreams where I'm Pope and I visit the US and hit the talk show circuit and give sermons in Las Vegas. But I know it ain't gonna happen.....

3. Hillary Clinton received money from and supported nations that she
    KNEW funded ISIS and terrorists

Did that money go directly into her pocket? If it went to the Clinton Foundation, we know (thanks to the openness of the Foundation and Clinton's release of her tax returns) that she gets not a single penny from the Foundation. And we know Saudi Arabia funds terrorists....but they've been good friends and allies for decades. If that's a sin, both Bushes are just as guilty......

4. Hillary has public positions on policy and her private ones

So? How much do you say about people behind their backs that you wouldn't say to their faces? There's a difference between what one would LIKE TO do and what one realizes is possible and can actually accomplish.

5. Paying people to incite violence and unrest at Trump rallies

Not really true; it's a standard campaign strategy to "bait" people at rallies.

9. Bribery: King of Morocco gave Clinton Foundation $12 million
    for a meeting with Hillary, 6 months later Morocco gets weapons

Again, Clinton gets no money from the Foundation (which, by the way, has helped countless numbers of people around the world in many ways). And it's her fucking JOB as the Secretary of State to meet with foreign leaders, like the King of Morocco..... And considering how many weapons we sell around the world, Morocco might have just as cheaply paid for them directly.

And even if everything else were the god's honest truth..... she's still the best, most capable, and most likely to Get Shit Done presidential candidate we've had in ages.

Yes, she can be a bitch. BUT BITCHES GET SHIT DONE.

Pwahahahahahaha! Oh wow! Get a good look folks, number 6 on that top 100 list in full display here!!

Good stuff man.  ;D

Anyway, another FBI indictment is pending against Hillary.. on the Clinton Foundation.
And Julian Assange set to give an interview and possibly leak, what is it... phase 3? of the latest data dumps on November 5th. Assuming he isnt dead... Hillary did want to just drone strike Assange. I mean, we cant have people exposing the truth!

One thing I am confused about is the Clinton campaigns position on Trump with Russia. On one hand, hes working with them... he is Putins puppet... Russia is "rigging" the election for Trump.... Putin and Trump are friends... blah blah blah..... Then on the other hand, the Clinton campaign and ignorant supporters suggest Trump will start ww3.... his finger on the nukes.... Sooooo, is he friends with Russia or not?

Hillarys position is pretty clear, she demonizes the shit out of Russia and blames everything on them. She wants to overthrow Assad and do it at all costs in Syria. I think it was suggested by her or her campaign that she wants to place a NO FLY ZONE on Russia in Syria and didnt have an answer to when asked what will happen if they violate that... I am not too sure about the accuracy of that policy, i am too lazy to get links right now, lol...

Who really has a better chance of starting WW3, the person that wants diplomacy with Russia or the person who blames everything on Russia and trys to convince the people that Russia is the devil?
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5376 on: November 03, 2016, 10:38:28 PM »
Russia is desperate. They're hemorrhaging money and Putin is doing anything he can to look good. Why would he be looking to clamp down on Russian media, flexing his military muscle, and begging OPEC to cut production?

Getting Trump elected would change the US's position on Russia because Hillary's won't change.


And BTW, the open borders thing was in regards to energy.

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« Reply #5377 on: November 04, 2016, 09:36:03 PM »
I have read that these "FBI leaks" are coming from rogue members of the FBI, which some agents have described as "Trumpland".

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump

(Note: The Guardian is based in the United Kingdom, an ocean away from bias)

This is VERY CONCERNING, because it's the FBI's job to monitor and investigate domestic terrorism. And if the agency is crippled as a result of pushback or manipulation or internal strife.......

What's really depressing is that no matter who wins the election, America stands a good chance of losing. And it will be the GOP's fault.

Their candidate is colossally unfit for the office. When even noted right-wing commentator Charles Krauthammer says Trump is a danger to the world....

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We are entering a period of unprecedented threat to the international order that has prevailed under American leadership since 1945. After eight years of President Obama’s retreat, the three major revisionist powers — Russia, China and Iran — see their chance to achieve regional dominance and diminish, if not expel, American influence.

At a time of such tectonic instability, even the most experienced head of state requires wisdom and delicacy to maintain equilibrium. Trump has neither. His joining of supreme ignorance to supreme arrogance, combined with a pathological sensitivity to any perceived slight, is a standing invitation to calamitous miscalculation.

Two generations of Americans have grown up feeling that international stability is as natural as the air we breathe. It’s not. It depends on continual, calibrated tending. It depends on the delicate balancing of alliances and the careful signaling of enemies.

It depends on avoiding self-inflicted trade wars and on recognizing the value of allies like Germany, Japan and South Korea as cornerstones of our own security rather than satrapies who are here to dispatch tribute to their imperial master in Washington.

It took seven decades to build this open, free international order. It could be brought down in a single presidential term. That would be a high price to pay for the catharsis of kicking over a table.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/charles-krauthammer-awful-choice-worse-article-1.2857335

And that doesn't mention what a Trump administration could do to our economy, with his tax plans that favor the wealthy (like him) and threats of trade wars (based on an ignorance of how the global economy works).

And when Clinton wins, not only are some GOP leaders not speaking out against the hints of violence that have been popping up, they are also stating flat out that they will refuse to consider any of her possible Supreme Court nominees and are threatening to launch impeachment proceedings the day she's inaugurated - even before she has time to commit an impeachable offense.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/11/03/republicans-are-now-vowing-total-war-and-the-consequences-could-be-immense/

Is there anyone - ANYONE - on the Democratic side that is making similar statements?

I visit Cracked.com regularly for some levity about popular culture. But earlier this week, they had one of their occasional serious articles. Seeing talk about how the US might be heading for a civil war, Robert Evans decided to talk to people who know about modern civil wars and insurgencies:

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I talked to David Kilcullen, former Chief Strategist in the State Department's Office of the Coordinator of Counterterrorism. He helped plan the successful "surge" in Iraq, and he's seen a lot of civil wars in his time. He didn't consider a new U.S. civil war likely ... but he was also pretty damn far from ruling it out: "I think what we're seeing now is, what I would describe as a proto-insurgency situation ... the ingredients are out there, if somebody knew what they were doing, [they could] pull together an effective movement."

So in the unlikely (but possible) event the U.S. broke out in a new civil war, what would it look like? I rounded up every civilian and military expert I could find and asked them that question. To my surprise, they all got back to me.....

It's not pretty.....

6 Reasons Why A New Civil War Is Possible And Terrifying

The current GOP needs to not only lose this election, but lose it badly.
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« Reply #5378 on: November 04, 2016, 10:26:04 PM »
Justice David Souter in 2012: The way democracy dies

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« Reply #5379 on: November 06, 2016, 05:22:13 PM »
John Podesta's type of "dinner"

Email

I cant even link the types of discoveries being made with John Podesta and the Clintonistas because the words are banned here. So disgusting. These people that represent a government ran by big banks, big donors and big corporations. A government NOT by the people, for the people.

This type of... satanism shit is not funny. How the hell can someone vote for these people?

Bill Clinton has close ties with Jeffery Epstein. We all know who he is right? So hard to link any one of those sources... just google them. Here is one.

NO ONE here can defend this shit. Dont give me none of that "So?" shit. Dont give me none of that "but..... but... Trump is a racist" shit. Dont give me none of that "...i dont trust anything that connects Hillary to anything bad" shit. Look this up yourself.
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Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5380 on: November 07, 2016, 07:23:13 PM »
One does not have to defend it, because it's BULLSHIT.

http://www.snopes.com/john-podesta-spirit-cooking/

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2016/11/04/no-john-podestas-spirit-cooking-wasnt-above-devil-worship-n2241548

The things people believe when they suffer from Clinton Derangement Syndrome........
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« Reply #5381 on: November 08, 2016, 12:31:45 AM »
And giving links that just have random people say it was taken out of context is not BULLSHIT?

Let me see links that say bill Clinton and Jeffery Epstein just liked to go bowling and that was written by some person just saying it.

The way people shove their heads into their own asses......
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5382 on: November 08, 2016, 08:14:21 PM »
I would just like to say, as I change TV channel after TV channel:

Jesus f*ck. How can it be this close?

I am truly frightened by my country.

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« Reply #5383 on: November 08, 2016, 09:58:07 PM »
The NY Times 27 minutes ago:
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« Reply #5384 on: November 08, 2016, 09:59:41 PM »
They just called Florida for Trump
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