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« Reply #6315 on: September 26, 2017, 11:09:12 PM »
With regards to the NFL stuff, Seth Myers pointed out in "A Closer Look" that on Sunday, a CNN anchorwoman had to caution viewers about the language in an upcoming clip of Trump's rant about protesting players. "Let's just take a step back and consider how embarrassing it is that news anchors now have to introduce comments from the president by warning little children to leave the room."

Back to Puerto Rico. Trump finally tweeted about the disaster, but instead of offering words of encouragement, chose instead to talk about the island's economic troubles.

"Texas & Florida are doing great but Puerto Rico, which was already suffering from broken infrastructure & massive debt, is in deep trouble.."
"..It's old electrical grid, which was in terrible shape, was devastated. Much of the Island was destroyed, with billions of dollars...."
"...owed to Wall Street and the banks which, sadly, must be dealt with. Food, water and medical are top priorities - and doing well. "

Oh, and it's going to be tougher to get help there, "because it's an island." NO SHIT, SHERLOCK! That's why it's more important to get help there ASAP.

One thing El Presidente could do is waive the Jones Act for Puerto Rico. That's a century-old bit of legislation that restricts shipping from one part of the US coast (including islands and territories like PR) to another to US-flagged ships only. Something about keeping out foreign competition, I guess. Anyway, Elaine Duke, the acting head of the Dept. of Homeland Security, was asked by seven US Representatives to waive it. Duke declined, saying that the key problem wasn't shipping capacity, but that port facilities weren't in the condition to unload and move all the stuff. Funny, there was no problem waiving the Jones Act for Texas and Florida after Harvey and Irma....

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-storm-maria-puertorico-shipping/u-s-denies-request-for-puerto-rico-shipping-waiver-idUSKCN1C12UI

And don't forget the rest of the region.

Barbuda had to be completely evacuated. "For the first time in 300 years, there’s not a single living person on the island of Barbuda — a civilization that has existed on that island for over 300 years has now been extinguished," said Antigua and Barbuda’s Ambassador Ronald Sanders. According to the minister of information and broadcasting, the island may not be habitable for at least another two weeks.

Dominica's main hospital "took a beating" from Hurricane Maria while buildings serving as shelters had their roofs ripped off, an official said as the first images showing the devastation unleashed by the storm emerged Wednesday.

Another US territory, the US Virgin Islands, was hit by both Irma and Maria. As of September 26, FEMA estimated that there were seven shelters with 621 occupants across the US Virgin Islands, and there are 48,000 people without power. The British Virgin Islands were also devastated.

St. Martin, which is split into Dutch and French halves, saw one-third of the buildings on the Dutch side get destroyed.

Cuba got hit; so far ten people are known to have died. People in Havana are worried that some of the buildings there were damaged enough to make their collapse likely.


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« Reply #6316 on: September 26, 2017, 11:36:03 PM »
I know! It's a total shitshow down there this hurricane season :(
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« Reply #6317 on: September 27, 2017, 01:52:22 AM »
11 African nations are building / want to built a huge big ass great wall, a fortification. In it final state it will be easily 10 meters high. And it will be 15 kilometers wide. So far Senegal made the most progress. They brought in place 11 million pieces.

Question to the Nazi president Trumpel. ...
Will your wall also be that useful, like the African one?
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« Reply #6318 on: September 27, 2017, 02:27:43 AM »
The question that no body seems to answer is.  Why do organizations like Nazis actually exist?

Why do people want to join such a thing - the only way you'll stop this, is if you know why it starts. 

I have a theory that some of it is due to Social Exclusion and being disenfranchised, that draws people to protest and join organizations like the Nazis/Isis.  And why are people disenfranchised?  The government of the day sets the agenda.

I bet you most of the young people going to fight with Isis aren't well educated. Well educated Muslims don't feel the need to go.  But why are some people left with so little hope they have to fight with Isis.

I note that the use of Foodbanks is on the rise in Germany with a lot more low job security. I would argue that the rise of AfD has a lot to do with this.

So wake up politicians.
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« Reply #6319 on: September 27, 2017, 05:58:01 AM »
The question that no body seems to answer is.  Why do organizations like Nazis actually exist?

Why do people want to join such a thing - the only way you'll stop this, is if you know why it starts. 

I have a theory that some of it is due to Social Exclusion and being disenfranchised, that draws people to protest and join organizations like the Nazis/Isis.  And why are people disenfranchised?  The government of the day sets the agenda.

I bet you most of the young people going to fight with Isis aren't well educated. Well educated Muslims don't feel the need to go.  But why are some people left with so little hope they have to fight with Isis.

I note that the use of Foodbanks is on the rise in Germany with a lot more low job security. I would argue that the rise of AfD has a lot to do with this.

So wake up politicians.

Because they don't believe in this: "ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country."

They don't do anything good for the country but they want the country to do them well ...

The point is this AfD party started as something very different 2013. As neoliberal-conservative party anti-EU and anti-Euro, but then they got hijacked by the Nazis.
In 2013 the voters of the AfD were also richer people. Now the Nazis got elected by the poor people:


2013 is the light blue and 2017 the dark blue.

So obviously, yes, the poor and uneducate vote for Nazis (and for the most left parties).


And the most ridicolous thing is ... The less immigrants live in their area, the more they vote for the Nazis. In areas with more immigrants, less Nazis are elected.


So the conclusion is:
- get them more money to earn
- distribute more of the immigrants to their area.
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« Reply #6320 on: September 27, 2017, 08:26:57 AM »
And the most ridicolous thing is ... The less immigrants live in their area, the more they vote for the Nazis. In areas with more immigrants, less Nazis are elected.
Same sort of thing here with Brexit - the areas in the UK that got the most from the EU and had the least immigration voted for Brexit.  However - maybe they were worried what was coming.  And to be honest, immigrants don't vote for right wing parties.

It will be 20 years before Germany feels the real effect - good or bad - to the recent immigration.  I'm not against immigration, but too much too fast and you're going to get some push-back from the voters.

I just feel politicians need to understand where all this protest voting is coming from - for if they don't, it will only get worse. 

You'll be better informed than I - but aren't there some parallels to what is happening now in the world, to the rise of Hitler in the 1930's?  His hate of the Jews was came from his youth.
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« Reply #6321 on: September 27, 2017, 11:23:55 AM »
Can we get our Nazis to fight their Nazis?

Their Nazis would probably win, unfortunately.

By the way, can I tell you how incensed I am about the situation in Puerto Rico? They're not going to have electricity for A THIRD OF A YEAR, and the current occupant of the White House is more interested in going to rallies and "disinviting" people -- people who had already said that they had no intention of coming.

This is not normal.

I'm not ordinarily a violent-minded person, but when I envision Nazis fighting Nazis, I'm not thinking about who'll win, but instead about bilateral casualties.

Trump's just feeding his base re Puerto Rico's debt, kneeling as treason, etc. He's distracting them from the re-re-re-failure of Repeal-and-Replace. (I'd write "trying to distract them" instead of "distracting them", but by now there's no question that it works.)

Seems like we passed "not normal" last November like it was standing still.


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« Reply #6322 on: September 27, 2017, 12:01:07 PM »
Can we get our Nazis to fight their Nazis?

Their Nazis would probably win, unfortunately.

By the way, can I tell you how incensed I am about the situation in Puerto Rico? They're not going to have electricity for A THIRD OF A YEAR, and the current occupant of the White House is more interested in going to rallies and "disinviting" people -- people who had already said that they had no intention of coming.

This is not normal.

I'm not ordinarily a violent-minded person, but when I envision Nazis fighting Nazis, I'm not thinking about who'll win, but instead about bilateral casualties.

Trump's just feeding his base re Puerto Rico's debt, kneeling as treason, etc. He's distracting them from the re-re-re-failure of Repeal-and-Replace. (I'd write "trying to distract them" instead of "distracting them", but by now there's no question that it works.)

Seems like we passed "not normal" last November like it was standing still.

I think I mentioned that before but I believe there is a great place for the Nazis of all countries:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerguelen_Islands?wprov=sfla1

 The main island is not only called GRANDE TERRE which is ideal for Nazis, but the Kerguelen are also called "Desolation Islands". And above all they are as remote as an island can be.

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« Reply #6323 on: September 27, 2017, 10:57:34 PM »

I'm not ordinarily a violent-minded person, but when I envision Nazis fighting Nazis, I'm not thinking about who'll win, but instead about bilateral casualties.


Mutually assured destruction. Sounds like a plan.
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« Reply #6324 on: September 27, 2017, 11:46:23 PM »
CNN Politics: "Jared Kushner is registered to vote as a female"
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Jared Kushner, senior adviser and son-in-law to President Donald Trump, apparently registered to vote as a female, according to his publicly accessible 2009 New York state voter information.

The records held by the New York State Board of Elections show Jared Corey Kushner is registered to vote as a female, Wired first reported.

The White House declined to comment on the story.

Kushner, who is married to Trump's daughter Ivanka Trump, has been under fire lately for occasionally using a private email account for correspondence with fellow administration officials, his lawyer, Abbe Lowell, confirmed to CNN on Sunday.
Maybe they thought it was his evil twin sister, Janelle? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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« Reply #6325 on: September 28, 2017, 01:50:23 AM »

I'm not ordinarily a violent-minded person, but when I envision Nazis fighting Nazis, I'm not thinking about who'll win, but instead about bilateral casualties.


Mutually assured destruction. Sounds like a plan.

Unforrtunately the difference from last century Nazis is, they collaborate internationally. Like Franco, Hitler and Mussolini. And if you look at Mussolini he had a history of development in the media, like Trumpel did, like Bannon ...
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« Reply #6326 on: September 28, 2017, 10:32:17 AM »
And the most ridicolous thing is ... The less immigrants live in their area, the more they vote for the Nazis. In areas with more immigrants, less Nazis are elected.
  And to be honest, immigrants don't vote for right wing parties.


It is a bit more complex like this. The refugees are not allowed participate in the voting. Only citizen with German passport and living in Germany for at least 3 months.



The farer left and the Nazis are strong in the area of below average nunber of immigrants.

Regions with many immigrants voted neo-liberal, green party (which now in Germany is a middle-class to conservative oriented) and traces of the farer left ones.

In the area of average number of immigrants it is more the conservatives and social-democrats.

What I want to say. Some of the long time arriving immigrants that can't vote also fall for the Nazis. They believe the refugees and new immigrants would steal the wealth from them. And if they could they would also vote for the Nazis even it woul harm them. They believe they are the good immigrants and the new ones are the bad immigrants. That a Nazi doesn't care seems not that clear to them. For the AfD Nazis even the integrated immigrants from our German national soccer team are not good enough to live in the same street or the AfD-Nazis asking when finally only Germans are accepted in the national team again. God damn Nazis, these people have German passports, they are German.
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« Reply #6327 on: September 29, 2017, 05:06:03 PM »
Repeal and replace finally successful.


Nobody ever believed it ... but the efforts for "Repeal and Replace" finally pay out ...


... just a bit different than expected. Not Obamacare, but one of its biggest critical masterminds Tom Price payed the price and repealed himself from job of secretary of state for health and will be replaced ...
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« Reply #6328 on: September 29, 2017, 06:23:21 PM »
Repeal and replace finally successful.


Nobody ever believed it ... but the efforts for "Repeal and Replace" finally pay out ...


... just a bit different than expected. Not Obamacare, but one of its biggest critical masterminds Tom Price payed the price and repealed himself from job of secretary of state for health and will be replaced ...

The universe has a huge sense of humor.

Meanwhile, the words of a man who grabbed his share of top-flight pussy in his time, yet who also was a bastion for First Amendment rights, and for racial and gender equity:
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« Reply #6329 on: September 30, 2017, 11:25:35 AM »
CNN is reporting that the United States Department of Justice is demanding that the Book of Face hand over the private account information of thousands of people who said that they wanted to attend an event protesting the inauguration of the current occupant of the White House. They have also stated that they want to start monitoring the social media accounts of new immigrants.

As one commenter put it:

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Let's be abundantly clear: The Department of Justice want information on people that dissent from the current administration. Not for any crimes. The warrant literally says it wants information on "anti-administration activists who have spoken out at organized events, and who are generally very critical of this administration's policies." One person's accounts are being pursued simply [for] organizing protests. This is sort of frightening and maddening at the same time. I'd like to believe that everyone would be appalled by this...but we live in a world where 50% of the population wanted to string Hillary up for using private email servers for official business, but are gladly looking away as the *entire* current administration does it. Where "death to Jews" and "blood and soil" are cool because the Constitution...but kneeling or standing with arms linked is evil.

The hypocrisy is palpable. I can feel it oozing between every molecule. My account could technically, under the current warrants, requested by the DOJ for this post. When did the Grand Old Party begin liking and acting so much like Russians? Where Putin is a smart and stand up guy, and you're a son of a bitch for protesting.


Godwin's Law has been thrown out the window with this one, since if Hitler had had access to social media, could you imagine how much quicker he would have been able to implement his utterly-evil "final solution"?

This is not normal.
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