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« Reply #7635 on: July 23, 2019, 03:54:24 AM »
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« Reply #7636 on: July 23, 2019, 12:48:30 PM »
More pops.

Let's take a look at some recent news:

1. Berkeley has decided to engage in more Orwell practice and is going the route of Newspeak. The city has banned terms like "firemen, manhole, manpower." I don't know exactly what is going to happen to people who use those words still but, Big Brother would be proud! Or should I say, Big Person.

2. Erica Thomas, a representative out of Georgia, is the latest Jussie Smullett fake hate crime hoax. She put out a video of herself crying claiming a "white racist" told her to go back to where she came from. She later admitted he didn't say that, turns out he was a Cuban American Never Trump Democrat. Big whoops!

3. Bernie Sanders' campaign workers are a little confused after figuring out that Bernie wants to raise the federal minimum wage to $15, but his own workers are not payed that much. It's not a matter of how much young campaign workers should get paid, its pointing out Bernie's hypocrisy and policy flaws. He would agree to raise their wages, but cut their hours! Does he finally see the problem? Has he learned economics?
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« Reply #7637 on: July 23, 2019, 03:48:32 PM »
The federal minimum wage will effect everyone, not just Bernie's Sanders wages. There is no Bernie Sanders campaign minimum wage bill written anywhere, that would be silly. I find it hard to believe that his staff is confuse or even aware of any rumor that there was one bill written just for Bernie Sander!
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« Reply #7638 on: July 24, 2019, 08:25:03 PM »
Well, Mueller appeared before the House today. And because he didn't come right out and specifically state that El Presidente was GUILTY of anything, the Trumpists are shouting "Hooray! Total Exoneration!", liberals are wondering what happened, and the Media is saying it's a loss for the Democrats.

HOWEVER, if you were paying attention, you were told once again that

1. Trump is NOT EXONERATED.
2. Trump could be indicted, if it weren't for that stupid memo from the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel that says a sitting president should not be indicted.
3. There's nothing to stop him from being indicted once he's out of office.
4. If Mueller didn't specifically charge Trump with any crimes, it's because Trump and his cronies stonewalled and interfered with the investigation so much that he wasn't able to get any convincing evidence that actual crimes were committed.

Adam Schiff's opening speech bears reading in its entirety (emphases mine) to remind us just what we're dealing with here:

Your report, for those who have taken the time to study it, is methodical and it is devastating, for it tells the story of a foreign adversary’s sweeping and systematic intervention in a close U.S.presidential election.

That should be enough to deserve the attention of every American, as you well point out. But your report tells another story as well. For the story of the 2016 presidential election is also a story about disloyalty to country, about greed, and about lies.

Your investigation determined that the Trump campaign – including Trump himself – knew that a foreign power was intervening in our election and welcomed it, built Russian meddling into their strategy, and used it.

Disloyalty to country. Those are strong words, but how else are we to describe a presidential campaign which did not inform the authorities of a foreign offer of dirt on their opponent, which did not publicly shun it, or turn it away, but which instead invited it, encouraged it, and made full use of it?


That disloyalty may not have been criminal. Constrained by uncooperative witnesses, the destruction of documents & the use of encrypted communications, your team was not able to establish each of the elements of the crime of conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt, so not a provable crime, in any event.

But, I think, maybe,something worse.

A crime is the violation of a law written by Congress. But disloyalty to country violates the very obligation of citizenship, our devotion to a core principle on which our nation was founded:

That we, the people, not some foreign power that wishes us ill, we decide,who shall govern, us.

This also a story about money, about greed and corruption, about the leadership of a campaign willing to compromise the nation’s interest not only to win, but to make money at the same time.

About a campaign chairman indebted to pro-Russian interests who tried to use his position to clear his debts and make millions. About a national security advisor using his position to make money from still other foreign interests.

And about a candidate trying to make more money than all of them, through a real estate project that to him, was worth a fortune, hundreds of millions of dollars, and the realization of a lifelong ambition – a Trump Tower in the heart of Moscow.


A candidate who, in fact, viewed his whole campaign as the greatest infomercial in history.

Donald Trump and his senior staff were not alone in their desire to use the election to make money. For Russia, too, there was a powerful financial motive. Putin wanted relief from U.S. economic sanctions imposed in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and over human rights violations.

The secret Trump Tower meeting between the Russians and senior campaign officials was about sanctions. The secret conversations between Flynn and the Russian ambassador were about sanctions.

Trump and his team wanted more money for themselves, and the Russians wanted more money for themselves, and for their oligarchs.

But the story doesn’t end here either. For your report also tells a story about lies. Lots of lies.

Lies about a gleaming tower in Moscow and lies about talks with the Kremlin. Lies about the firing of FBI Director James Comey, and lies about efforts to fire you, Mr. Mueller, and lies to cover it up.

Lies about secret negotiations with the Russians over sanctions and lies about Wikileaks. Lies about polling data and lies about hush money payments. Lies about meetings in the Seychelles to set up secret back channels, and lies about a secret meeting in New York Trump Tower.

Lies to the FBI, lies to your staff, and lies to our Committee. And lies to obstruct an investigation into the most serious attack on our democracy by a foreign power in our history.

That is where your report ends, Mr. Mueller, with a scheme to cover up,obstruct and deceive every bit as systematic and pervasive as the Russian disinformation campaign itself, but far more pernicious since this rot came from within.

Even now, after 448 pages in two volumes, the deception continues. The President and his acolytes say your report found no collusion, though your report explicitly declined to address that question, since collusion can involve both criminal and non-criminal conduct.

Your report laid out multiple offers of Russian help to the Trump campaign, the campaign’s acceptance of that help, and overt acts in furtherance of Russian help. To most Americans, that is the very definition of collusion, whether it is a crime or not.

They say your report found no evidence of obstruction, though you outline numerous actions by the President intended to obstruct the investigation.

They say the President has been fully exonerated, though you specifically declare you could not exonerate him.


In fact, they say your whole investigation was nothing more than a witchhunt, that the Russians didn’t interfere in our election, that it’s all a terrible hoax.

The real crime, they say, is not that the Russians intervened to help Donald Trump, but that the FBI had the temerity to investigate it when they did.

But worst of all, worse than all the lies and the greed, is the disloyalty to country, for that too, continues. When asked, if the Russians intervene again, will you take their help, Mr. President?

Why not, was the essence of his answer.

Everyone does it.

No, Mr. President, they don’t.


Not in the America envisioned by Jefferson, Madison & Hamilton. Not for those who believe in the idea that Lincoln labored until his dying day to preserve, the idea animating our great national experiment, so unique then, so precious still:

That our government is chosen by our people, through our franchise, and not by some hostile foreign power.

This is what is at stake. Our next election, and the one after that, for generations to come. Our democracy.

This is why your work matters, Mr. Mueller. This is why our investigation matters. To bring these dangers to light.”


Let's go with David Corn from Mother Jones for a TL;DR summary:

A US election was hijacked. Trump stood by as it happened and profited from it. And ever since he has attempted to cover up this original sin of his presidency. At the hearing, Mueller did not rail about Trump’s serious misconduct. But in the quiet way of an institutionalist who respects norms and rules, Mueller made it clear: Trump engaged in treachery. This is not news. But it remains a defining element of the Trump presidency that deserves constant attention.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #7639 on: July 25, 2019, 01:01:46 AM »
"But worst of all, worse than all the lies and the greed, is the disloyalty to country, for that too, continues. When asked, if the Russians intervene again, will you take their help, Mr. President?

Why not, was the essence of his answer.

Everyone does it.

No, Mr. President, they don’t."

The other side have stated many times that we seek help from Israel for our election. I would like them to stop meddling with our election as well!
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« Reply #7640 on: July 27, 2019, 09:11:18 PM »
^^ So first you say that you have Nazi friends. Now you are throwing a major accusation against Israel. (truly think to yourself if Trump were to say these things, or hell, if I said these things)

Call me crazy, but by standards set by left leaning folk like yourself, you are an anti-semitic racist. Look in the mirror. And everyone else who likes to constantly call out "any form of racism" and act all noble and just, now is your chance to prove it. Now is your chance to prove that it isnt supposedly about "right vs left" or "democrat vs republican." This is your chance!

But I wont hold my breath so moving on....
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« Reply #7641 on: July 28, 2019, 03:10:29 AM »
It astound me that you can't even read! I don't know why you bother responding in gibberish nonsense if you lack comprehending reading skill. You should just stick with what you do best, regurgitate the NAZI propaganda from your master Trump.
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« Reply #7642 on: July 28, 2019, 11:59:36 AM »

Oh, such a surprise.
Newsweek: “Mitch McConnell Received Donations from Voting Machine Lobbyists Before Blocking Election Security Bills”

"It's not surprising to me that mitch mcconnell is receiving these campaign contributions," the Brennan Center for Justice's Lawrence Norden told Sludge last month. "He seems single-handedly to be standing in the way of anything passing in Congress around election security, and that includes things that the vendors might want, like money for the states to replace antiquated equipment."

mcconnell's actions seemed even more out of balance with his party, as the Senate Intelligence Committee⁠—led by Republicans⁠—released a report later on Thursday claiming Russians have targeted voting systems in all 50 states in 2016. Though there was no evidence votes were changed, in Illinois "Russian cyberactors were in a position to delete or change voter data."

In 2018, there were 14 states that used electronic voting systems in 2018 with no paper trail, that means that if votes were inaccurately tallied or machines malfunctioned, there would be no way to investigate or recover those votes. Voting machine companies are not currently subject to any federally-mandated security standards.
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« Reply #7643 on: July 28, 2019, 02:13:59 PM »

"Better to have a few rats than to be one"
By BALTIMORE SUN EDITORIAL BOARD
BALTIMORE SUN |
JUL 27, 2019 | 6:36 PM

In case anyone missed it, the president of the United States had some choice words to describe Maryland’s 7th congressional district on Saturday morning. Here are the key phrases: “no human being would want to live there,” it is a “very dangerous & filthy place,” “Worst in the USA” and, our personal favorite: It is a “rat and rodent infested mess.” He wasn’t really speaking of the 7th as a whole. He failed to mention Ellicott City, for example, or Baldwin or Monkton or Prettyboy, all of which are contained in the sprawling yet oddly-shaped district that runs from western Howard County to southern Harford County. No, Donald Trump’s wrath was directed at Baltimore and specifically at Rep. Elijah Cummings, the 68-year-old son of a former South Carolina sharecropper who has represented the district in the U.S. House of Representatives since 1996.

It’s not hard to see what’s going on here. The congressman has been a thorn in this president’s side, and Mr. Trump sees attacking African American members of Congress as good politics, as it both warms the cockles of the white supremacists who love him and causes so many of the thoughtful people who don’t to scream. President Trump bad-mouthed Baltimore in order to make a point that the border camps are “clean, efficient & well run," which, of course, they are not — unless you are fine with all the overcrowding, squalor, cages and deprivation to be found in what the Department of Homeland Security’s own inspector-general recently called “a ticking time bomb."

In pointing to the 7th, the president wasn’t hoping his supporters would recognize landmarks like Johns Hopkins Hospital, perhaps the nation’s leading medical center. He wasn’t conjuring images of the U.S. Social Security Administration, where they write the checks that so many retired and disabled Americans depend upon. It wasn’t about the beauty of the Inner Harbor or the proud history of Fort McHenry. And it surely wasn’t about the economic standing of a district where the median income is actually above the national average. No, he was returning to an old standby of attacking an African American lawmaker from a majority black district on the most emotional and bigoted of arguments. It was only surprising that there wasn’t room for a few classic phrases like “you people” or “welfare queens” or “crime-ridden ghettos” or a suggestion that the congressman “go back” to where he came from.

This is a president who will happily debase himself at the slightest provocation. And given Mr. Cummings’ criticisms of U.S. border policy, the various investigations he has launched as chairman of the House Oversight Committee, his willingness to call Mr. Trump a racist for his recent attacks on the freshmen congresswomen, and the fact that “Fox & Friends” had recently aired a segment critical of the city, slamming Baltimore must have been irresistible in a Pavlovian way. Fox News rang the bell, the president salivated and his thumbs moved across his cell phone into action.

As heartening as it has been to witness public figures rise to Charm City’s defense on Saturday, from native daughter House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to Mayor Bernard C. “Jack” Young, we would above all remind Mr. Trump that the 7th District, Baltimore included, is part of the United States that he is supposedly governing. The White House has far more power to effect change in this city, for good or ill, than any single member of Congress including Mr. Cummings. If there are problems here, rodents included, they are as much his responsibility as anyone’s, perhaps more because he holds the most powerful office in the land.

Finally, while we would not sink to name-calling in the Trumpian manner — or ruefully point out that he failed to spell the congressman’s name correctly (it’s Cummings, not Cumming) — we would tell the most dishonest man to ever occupy the Oval Office, the mocker of war heroes, the gleeful grabber of women’s private parts, the serial bankrupter of businesses, the useful idiot of Vladimir Putin and the guy who insisted there are “good people” among murderous neo-Nazis that he’s still not fooling most Americans into believing he’s even slightly competent in his current post. Or that he possesses a scintilla of integrity. Better to have some vermin living in your neighborhood than to be one.



This is not normal.
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« Reply #7644 on: July 28, 2019, 04:20:46 PM »
It astound me that you can't even read! I don't know why you bother responding in gibberish nonsense if you lack comprehending reading skill. You should just stick with what you do best, regurgitate the NAZI propaganda from your master Trump.

Yeah, yeah, sure. Whatever you say. It was anti-semitic, it was racist.

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Anyway, after the utter humiliation that the past few weeks have been for the Democrats, what ever shall they do to bounce back? Its obvious, call Trump a racist. It doesnt look like they will ever learn. All this is doing is assuring that he will win in 2020. Most people dont see this anti trump rhetoric, thats blatantly obvious at this point, as proof that hes a racist. CNN and liberals shouting racist at everything is only making people #walkaway and throw up on their way out.

Its pathetic.

Hey Bernie Sanders, anything you want to add about Baltimore? Oh, you compared it to a third world country?? Thats..... thats.... thats raaay..... thats ra-ra-racis..... Whats the word? Its on the tip of my tongue..... Oh wait, your a Democrat, you get a pass just like Erica Thomas.

There was a grown man on CNN crying on live TV because of Trumps words about Baltimore. In the end, all this grown man did was vindicate Trump about people not wanting to live there. "No one wants to live there? I did!" Emphasis on DID. Why did he leave? Why doesnt he go back?

Speaking of vindication, what are the people of Puerto Rico protesting about? Corrupt government that they have? Governor not properly using hurricane aide money?

Democrats are such fools, in party fighting, progressives vs moderates, Mueller catastrophe nothing burger, Trump approval rating nearing record high, Supreme Court ruling in favor of Trumps wall, people sick of their victimhood mentality, debates expected to expose them ever further, on the verge of losing in 2020 - not just Presidential race. Liberals are sure to cry all the way to 2024!
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« Reply #7645 on: July 28, 2019, 07:12:56 PM »
First off you said you weren't my friend, so I no longer have a friend who is a NAZI. I thought maybe we both share a love for big boob that you would have something in common. Then you say that I do have a friend with a NAZI, so make up your mind are you my friend or not?

Then I said the other side(the conservative} would belly ache that us left wing democrats have love and support from the Israeli in our election cycle and would also prefer them to stay out of our election process, in response to Zookie post on the Russian interference while helping the republican.
So where are you getting the anti-semantic from, and do you even know what that means?

I prefer you dont ask me question that you are too inept to ask. You are all over the place, and I can't keep up with your NAZI propaganda.
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« Reply #7646 on: July 29, 2019, 06:26:49 PM »
First off you said you weren't my friend, so I no longer have a friend who is a NAZI. I thought maybe we both share a love for big boob that you would have something in common. Then you say that I do have a friend with a NAZI, so make up your mind are you my friend or not?

Then I said the other side(the conservative} would belly ache that us left wing democrats have love and support from the Israeli in our election cycle and would also prefer them to stay out of our election process, in response to Zookie post on the Russian interference while helping the republican.
So where are you getting the anti-semantic from, and do you even know what that means?

I prefer you dont ask me question that you are too inept to ask. You are all over the place, and I can't keep up with your NAZI propaganda.

You don't learn do you? You have already been warned about referring to members of this board as NAZI's and NAZI sympathisers.

Take 30 days to cool off and when you return, act with some decorum.

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« Reply #7647 on: July 29, 2019, 06:28:11 PM »
Go watch Archie Bunker in "All of the family" there are many episode of where he befriends with non-white people and yet was still a racist. It is a fictional character, but people have responded that they knew people that were just like Archie Bunker, Hell! Mitch McConnell is a racist and yet married to an Asian women. Figure that one out?!?!?

Er... that's a TV show and we all know how true to life they are, or did you think it was a documentary?
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« Reply #7648 on: July 29, 2019, 07:33:37 PM »
Speaking of Moscow Mitch, not only is he in bed with the companies that make voting machines, he is also connected financially to Russian oligarchs.

His PAC has received $2.5 (or $3.5; the numbers vary) million from "companies" run by pro-Putin oligarch Leonid Blavatnik

https://washingtonpress.com/2017/08/04/new-report-reveals-mcconnell-ryan-took-millions-russian-oligarch-tied-putin/

And Oleg Deripaska (another pro-Putin oligarch) intends to invest $200 million in an aluminum plant in Kentucky.....

https://www.newsweek.com/company-russian-oligarch-millions-aluminum-plant-mitch-mcconnell-1397061

Is it any wonder he's not too keen on shoring up our voting system?
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« Reply #7649 on: July 30, 2019, 09:18:39 PM »
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