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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #9480 on: January 03, 2022, 05:22:51 AM »
Meanwhile, getting out of pointless conspiracy land and back into fact-based reality:

Jayne Miller, investigative reporter from WBAL-TV (Baltimore, Maryland)


I'm sorry is this still the Covid page or the Strikezone/Salem political conspiracy rant page?

I'm sorry but I thought you had been banned due to calling salem a Nazi. Perhaps not.  ??? :P

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« Reply #9481 on: January 03, 2022, 03:11:31 PM »
No I was banned for making direct comparison of Trump and Hitler, just like how Salem made a comment about "Craig Calcaterra is a left-wing cultist who, on the political spectrum, resides somewhere to the left of Josef Stalin"

Salem also made comment that it's typical of a left wing person to throw accusation of NAZI at anything they disagree with the right wing. Dismissing direct comparison of actions that warrant the comparison, which I have taken from factual history. Calling people racist and cutting comments and blowing up part of a sentence to show only the part that demonize them is orchestrating misinformation attempting to foment discordance in the chat. Far as I know he still hasn't taken the time to see what I actually posted and just read the part that the other poster have dishonestly and partially quoted. Says to everyone in the post that there is no way I am a racist, but tells me privately in the chat that it could be read both ways. So I really can't tell you specifically why I was ban both time. But I do think because of his action that he align himself more with right wing ideology of a conservative and make this judgement from what he has seen thru the media. Criticize 2 left wing video as the reason to dismiss the science of Covid. While saying he has a degree in science and fully well aware that science is a evolving process in searching for the truth. Releasing a genie out of a bottle and then trying to find the science of it in a open uncontrolled lab setting is damn hard science experiment with a time constraint to find the answer as quickly as possible. We were lucky that we had 10 year research on a similar virus. 
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« Reply #9482 on: January 03, 2022, 10:21:59 PM »
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #9483 on: January 04, 2022, 08:20:37 PM »
No I was banned for making direct comparison of Trump and Hitler, just like how Salem made a comment about "Craig Calcaterra is a left-wing cultist who, on the political spectrum, resides somewhere to the left of Josef Stalin"

Salem also made comment that it's typical of a left wing person to throw accusation of NAZI at anything they disagree with the right wing. Dismissing direct comparison of actions that warrant the comparison, which I have taken from factual history. Calling people racist and cutting comments and blowing up part of a sentence to show only the part that demonize them is orchestrating misinformation attempting to foment discordance in the chat. Far as I know he still hasn't taken the time to see what I actually posted and just read the part that the other poster have dishonestly and partially quoted. Says to everyone in the post that there is no way I am a racist, but tells me privately in the chat that it could be read both ways. So I really can't tell you specifically why I was ban both time. But I do think because of his action that he align himself more with right wing ideology of a conservative and make this judgement from what he has seen thru the media. Criticize 2 left wing video as the reason to dismiss the science of Covid. While saying he has a degree in science and fully well aware that science is a evolving process in searching for the truth. Releasing a genie out of a bottle and then trying to find the science of it in a open uncontrolled lab setting is damn hard science experiment with a time constraint to find the answer as quickly as possible. We were lucky that we had 10 year research on a similar virus.

No, you were banned for comparing members of this board to Nazi's, accusing a moderator of being a Nazi sympathiser and siding with racists. You were also banned, alongside StrikeZone for petty arguments with each other.

Yes, I said I did not think you are racist and yes, I did PM you to say that you could be read as such by some people. Try using your brain for once. Just because I don't think you are racist, it does not mean that other people feel the same way!

Consider yourself banned... again. You should be used to it by now, your first ban was before I even started posting here, and from what I can see, there have been many.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #9484 on: January 04, 2022, 09:18:26 PM »
So the politics thread is closed.. The Pandemic gets politicized and here we are...  To date I  knew three people who have died from COVID...  Sigh..

Not every site is like this, this is the only porn site I know where the head moderator defend NAZI and allow political thread as long as it support far right wing ideology. We are all not like that. I am not even thrilled about the democrats in that regard either, but I am for fact and science. We have posted everything we could get our hand on to support these facts. But time is changing, as more people realizing that if politic was an issue that the GOP are dying 3 time the rate that democrats are because of their stances on vaccination and mask. I went to pick up my meds at the pharmacy and there was a long line of first timer vaccination. Plus the news of the insurrection is not looking good for the last administration, while Trump himself stated he is fully vaccinated has some effect of people waking up. 2 rules here, we cant insult NAZI and call out racism, both will get you ban. Misinformation of Covid has free reign in the forum because of political differences and is fully supported.

This is way out of order.

You have again referred to another user as a 'Nazi' and have tried to insinuate that I defend right-wing ideology when I have gone out of my way to let the discussion ON BOTH SIDES go as long as it does not get personal, a fact I mentioned when I banned both you and StrikeZone for your constant bickering.
I am not right-wing or left-wing, but as many people are aware, anyone who does not agree with left-wing ideology is immediately labelled a 'Nazi' or some other insult.

I have a science degree, and work in a hospital where I have seen first hand the result of SARS-Cov-2. I also know the effectiveness of vaccines and masks and how well/badly they have performed during this pandemic.
In both cases their effectiveness has been way overstated.  The vaccine is really just a preventative measure at this point, it does not prevent infection or transmission, despite what they said in the beginning (very interesting video of Biden and Maddow telling us how getting the vaccine will end transmission).

Stop calling everyone a NAZI who does not agree with you and yes, you can call out racism, as long as it is actual racism and not just something you yourself feel is racist, (which these days can literally be anything according to Merriam-Webster, who have probably changed the definition AGAIN since I started typing this post.)

I reported to you 3 time of being personally called a racist, and I agree to free speech until it become personal attack, which you ignore 3 times.
Then you just made another post comparing left wing liberals to Josef Stalin. Then you also repeated a right wing ideology on the effectiveness of Vaccine.
I will agree to the effectiveness of the vaccine wasn't able to prevent the first attack of the immune system, but it did prepare the the pattern for the body ability defend itself from the secondary attack that burrow deeper into the body. But to claim Objectivity of observance while defending Strikezone ability to call us Nazi and racist while sharing his view right wing views on the vaccine is laughable.

As for calling people NAZI, I was specific in how Trump was compared to Hitler with specific actions of the NAZI's I didn't make generalizations of the political parties or group to the NAZI's. Your first rule we cant use the word NAZI, second rule we can't get political or the topic will be shut down, and that only happen when the right wing view got hurt, but the left wings side seem to be okay with you when Strikezone made a generalization of left wing activist to rats and NAZI. I also remember you object to the children concentration camps at the borders for the immigrants as being off topic. You really expect us to believe you are being objective in your political views to be open to a discussion that doesn't line up with your views? Let's talk about Biden and Maddow, neither are a doctor of medicine, but rely on the fact that were given at the moment. As a scientist, facts of what you know keeps evolving as you discover more, does it not? Do scientist marginalize on what they know because the facts could change the truth to dismiss the safety precaution of what they think?

The only one who said I call people in here racist or NAZI were from strikezone, please take the 5 minute to actually read what I say, be objective. You only read what Strikezone cutout and enlarge in bold letter. He learn from the best on how to propagandize his views. I didn't even call him a racist, but point out a statement that he conclude that I was racist by his insane conclusion that he could not explain how he came to that?

I look forward to talk about allowing me to post my BE animation of how it seem that most of my post were magically disconnected to be view during my ban. A bit harsh for being objective don't you think?
You even once mentioning delighted by my post, have that change because of your bias of views? I appreciate your posting of beautiful women, and I think surely you could do the same for me, and have at least one common ground left between us?

My uncle teaches propaganda in his English class a devout republican most of his life, for the first time did not vote for a republican. Because of the language of comparing a group to being rats. I have express concern about Strikezone being allowed to do so, as it gives strength to pick on those that are not able to defend themselves. Which is what you are doing when Strikezone keeps attacking and generalizing those that knows you will keep protecting his rights and not call him out for his attacks. You are tired of our bickering, but I am tired of his demonizing those that are trying to protect people from this covid and turning it into a political conspiracy that only create more division of a very polarizing topic. It would not bother me if this thread was shut down as well. I think everything about the safety has been said and people will make up their own mind, but at least it would stop giving a tool for Strikezone to keep attacking people.

I reported to you 3 time of being personally called a racist

Yes and the poster who did so was banned.

Then you just made another post comparing left wing liberals to Josef Stalin.

Actually I did no such thing. Yet again the left has no concept of hyperbole for effect. I merely stated that a certain individual (one, singular) was very left-wing in his ideology and said he was to the left of Stalin. Do not take things so literally. You on the other hand directly said Trump was a Nazi.

Then you also repeated a right wing ideology on the effectiveness of Vaccine.

If you think that it is 'right-wing ideology' to state that the vaccine does not prevent infection or transmission, then I guess every scientist on the planet is a right-wing idealogue.

You are tired of our bickering, but I am tired of his demonizing those that are trying to protect people from this covid

And what about the demonizing of people who don't wear a mask or want the vaccine? Sure, if you don't want the vaccine because you think Bill Gates is going to put a chip in your arm, you are crazy, but if you are worried about the long term effect (remember mRNA vaccines for widespread use are relatively new) of the vaccine, or having an adverse reaction to it, then why demonize these people? As for masks, their effectiveness is not as efficacious as you might think, viral particles are small enough to pass right through. if masks worked as well as we are told, you would not be seeing huge rises in case numbers. It can't all be spread by unmasked and unvaxxed. In fact in the UK, infections rose for a month once the mask mandate was put in place, probably due to people thinking it made them immune. I am not anti-mask, or antivax, but I am against mandates. What we are seeing most of all right now is scapegoating because Governments haven't a clue how to get out of this, every measure they have done has failed. 2 weeks to slow the spread, vaccines, masks. People not wanting the vaccine (despite not needing everyone to be vaccinated to ensure herd immunity, or so we were told before the rollout) are an easy target to blame. Even if everyone was vaccinated, infections would not slow that much, especially given that the vaccinated have more freedom and are generally asymptomatic, they are therefore more likely to be the ones increasing the case numbers, not the unvaccinated. The unvaccinated are more likely to be more ill (not so much by Omicron though), but even so, even at it's most deadly, Covid only killed off less than 2% of people, and that was mostly those over 75. Under 75 and the percentage drops. Saying stupid things like 'having to wait till all the unvaccinated die off from Covid' is ridiculous, because at a rate of less than 2% a year, you will be waiting a long time.

turning it into a political conspiracy that only create more division of a very polarizing topic.

People can post what they like, it is up to others whether they believe it or not. It isn't hard to do research. Everything is politicized these days, if Trump was still in power it would probably be the Democrats refusing the vaccine. US politics is really that polarized. It may astonish you to learn that in a Poll of both Democrats and Republicans, it was found that those on the right were found to be more tolerant of the views of the opposite side than those on the left. I'm not talking about extremist views either, I'm talking moderates.

we can't get political or the topic will be shut down

Not my idea to shut down the politics thread, but I supported it when asked.

And for the last time, I am not right-wing! My political compass test puts me almost firmly in the centre (slightly left-leaning), the problem with politics nowadays is that even people in the centre are seen as being right-wing due to the lunacy of the modern far-left which seems to be going ever further left at an alarming rate. I don't remmeber the left-side of politics ever being as bad as it is now. Even Bill Mahar commented on how nuts the left is getting. If it looks like I side with StrikeZone, it may have something to do with the fact that he only seems to be pushing back against the further expansion and validation of left-wing policy by media and politicians. I don't agree with him on all that much politically, but I defend his right to say it, as long as he does not attack another poster, I have already banned him once for that, and would do again. However I prefer to let people express their opinions without interference, all you seem to want to do is attack me and accuse me of siding with people.

And that is the last thing I will say on the matter.

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #9485 on: January 05, 2022, 06:23:52 AM »
^ So does that mean 3Deroticer will not be able to post for six months now? When I was recently banned, I could see the new entries but there was a constant reminder that I could not post until my thirty day enforced vacation was done yet 3Deroticer has posted a few times when I saw your Banned entry. I'm not asking why or not but I do want the rules to apply to all equally.

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #9486 on: January 05, 2022, 08:25:53 PM »
Meanwhile, it's kind of tough to do everything you're supposed to when policy collides with reality.

(In the meantime, get your free shots already, and wear a &^$#@! mask whenever you are asked to do so.)
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #9487 on: January 05, 2022, 08:41:35 PM »
Meanwhile, it's kind of tough to do everything you're supposed to when policy collides with reality.

(In the meantime, get your free shots already, and wear a &^$#@! mask whenever you are asked to do so.)

Absolutely.

(PS: These days I ain't returning nothing in person with all these idiots going around maskless and spreading diseases...)
AOC, HC, TW, BO, KH: FU. FUATH. 100x.

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« Reply #9488 on: January 05, 2022, 10:11:49 PM »
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #9489 on: January 05, 2022, 10:23:04 PM »
Meanwhile, it's kind of tough to do everything you're supposed to when policy collides with reality.

(In the meantime, get your free shots already, and wear a &^$#@! mask whenever you are asked to do so.)

Absolutely.

(PS: These days I ain't returning nothing in person with all these idiots going around maskless and spreading diseases...)


Yeah, not as much a problem in NY where everyone has to wear a mask indoors in a public space. 
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« Reply #9490 on: January 06, 2022, 09:45:08 PM »
On a lighter note:
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« Reply #9491 on: January 06, 2022, 10:57:24 PM »
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #9492 on: January 07, 2022, 04:21:21 AM »
"There's an update from the world of COVID: everyone in the world has COVID."

-- The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, 1/5/22
AOC, HC, TW, BO, KH: FU. FUATH. 100x.

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« Reply #9493 on: January 07, 2022, 10:00:14 PM »
More silliness from the social media"
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« Reply #9494 on: January 08, 2022, 03:29:16 PM »
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.