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« Reply #5670 on: February 23, 2017, 09:55:32 PM »
For this past Presidents' Day, I wrote an essay for my blog about the worst presidents: Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, and Warren Harding.

Pierce's failure was that he had no interest in doing the job. (To be fair, he had to watch his only surviving **09** die in front of him in a train accident two weeks after the election....(and his VP died soon after the inauguration and wasn't replaced, and his wife refused to live in DC....))

Buchanan had a petty and vindictive streak; his fight with Stephen Douglas broke the Democratic Party.

Warren Harding confessed to being poorly prepared for the job. While some of his appointments were good, too many of them (the "Ohio Gang") used their positions for personal gain. The rampant corruption ruined any chance of him having a successful - or even average - term.

Trump shows no interest in actually doing the job, wastes time on petty disputes, and has - so far - appointed a godawful bunch of people to key positions........
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« Reply #5671 on: February 24, 2017, 05:00:42 PM »
Today is the day 1 of the Nazi dictatorship in Washington. It has begun.
The free press didn't get access to a press conference.

I hope this is going to be the start of deciding for international sanctions against the US government.
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« Reply #5672 on: February 24, 2017, 11:22:06 PM »
Nixon was brought down by three things: his paranoid vindictiveness, his covering-up of a self-aggrandizing crime -- and the Washington Post with an assist from a solid FBI source.

Time will tell.
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« Reply #5673 on: February 25, 2017, 09:27:28 AM »
Paraphrased.

Trump: Look at Sweden and whats happening there. Look at last night (referencing report on problems in Sweden due to migrants) and all those problems.

MSM: TRUMP IS A LIAR!!! THERE WAS NO TERRORIST ATTACK IN SWEDEN THE NIGHT BEFORE!!! THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY ZERO PROBLEMS IN SWEDEN WITH IMMIGRANTS!!!! ZERO!!!!!

The next day, in immigrant district in Sweden:


Even the beloved Snopes reported on it.

Car burning crisis in Sweden

Swedish media admits to censoring stories for the last five years on migrant crime

Whoops.

Facts: http://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/

vs. alternative facts of Trumpel.
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« Reply #5674 on: February 25, 2017, 11:21:37 AM »
Also, apparently he is a prophet of some kind since

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Trump: Look at Sweden and whats happening there. Look at last night

The next day, in immigrant district in Sweden:


IOW he talked about what "had happened in Sweden last night" only for the (non-event) to (not) happen the next day. The only word to describe this attitude of "he can do no wrong" from some of his followers, when he is very clearly doing very wrong: delusional.

Basically nearly everything they accused  President Obama of doing, Drumpf is actually doing. For instance, on the campaign trail he said: "I'm going to be working for you, I'm not going to have time to go play golf". Yet in his first month as president, he visited his golf courses at least six times, and at least three of those times he actually played golf. Contrast that with President Obama, who didn't step foot on a golf course to play a round until more than three months after he had become POTUS (in April 2009).

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President Obama then played more than 300 rounds of golf (306 according to Golf Digest; 333 according to CBS News) during his eight years in office.

Although Trump has criticized Obama for playing golf too frequently, the latter does not hold the record for most golf outings as President: that title goes to Woodrow Wilson, who played an estimated 1,200 rounds. Dwight Eisenhower played around 800 rounds of golf as POTUS.


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« Reply #5675 on: February 25, 2017, 03:10:00 PM »
Paraphrased.

Trump: Look at Sweden and whats happening there. Look at last night (referencing report on problems in Sweden due to migrants) and all those problems.

MSM: TRUMP IS A LIAR!!! THERE WAS NO TERRORIST ATTACK IN SWEDEN THE NIGHT BEFORE!!! THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY ZERO PROBLEMS IN SWEDEN WITH IMMIGRANTS!!!! ZERO!!!!!

The next day, in immigrant district in Sweden:


Even the beloved Snopes reported on it.

Car burning crisis in Sweden

Swedish media admits to censoring stories for the last five years on migrant crime

Whoops.

Facts: http://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/

vs. alternative facts of Trumpel.

I should describe it as he and his fanboys live in an alternative reality. It's like a multiverse that is somehow currently visible. But it will fade away and the reality will return and he and them are gone.
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« Reply #5676 on: February 25, 2017, 09:08:04 PM »

I should describe it as he and his fanboys live in an alternative reality. It's like a multiverse that is somehow currently visible. But it will fade away and the reality will return and he and them are gone.


No matter how bad even the worst of American presidents were -- no matter how inept James Buchanan was, no matter how corrupt Warren Harding was, no matter how deleterious Woodrow Wilson was, no matter how asleep at the wheel Ronald Reagan was, no matter how malaprop-prone G. W. Bush was, no matter how bland Franklin Pierce and Millard Fillmore were, even no matter how paranoid and secretive Richard Nixon was -- absolutely none of them deliberately and explicitly went out of their way to destroy the country. None of them had as one of their right-hand men a person who said, out loud, in public:

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The third, broadly, line of work is deconstruction of the administrative state. ... If you look at these cabinet appointees, they were selected for a reason and that is the deconstruction. The way the progressive left runs, is if they can’t get it passed, they’re just going to put in some sort of regulation in an agency. That’s all going to be deconstructed and I think that that’s why this regulatory thing is so important.


This man deliberately selected the worst-qualified people to do the job. On purpose. Is this how you "run government like it was a business"? If you were the CEO of a Fortune 10 company and purposely chose department heads who didn't know what the hell they were doing -- indeed, you bragged about it -- how long do you think you would last in the CEO chair?

If, speaking of his foreign policy directed towards the United States, any foreign dictator had said what that man said, we would be up in arms, and rightly so. Instead, he gets cheered on and receives a standing ovation.

No matter how bad I might have thought Dubya was, and no matter how inept I thought many of his domestic and foreign policies were, even at his worst I never questioned his desire to do the right thing by this country. I never was afraid that we wouldn't be able to have an election in 2004 to perhaps prevent him from having four more years in the White House. I never was afraid that the "damage" he might have done to the body politic could not be ameliorated or even reversed with the fullness of time. But this crew (along with the Republicans in Congress, who think that this is a football game and not the fate of the country that they're toying with)? It seems outlandish, it seems hyperbolic, but believe me when I say this: I have lived in actual, real-life dictatorships and actual, real-life fascist regimes (including military dictatorships), and what is happening now in this country is mimicking them to an outstanding degree. 

And without trying to invoke Godwin's Law, if you doubt that we are starting to slide into actual, textbook fascism, look at the list from the US Holocaust Museum, and see how many items are speedily being checked off by a regime that by their own public admission is "maniacally focused" on doing this.

This is madness.
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« Reply #5677 on: February 25, 2017, 09:16:42 PM »
Its going to be a tough 8 years for you guys.  :'(

Hang in there kids, I know you can!
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

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« Reply #5678 on: February 25, 2017, 09:25:41 PM »
I have to ask: StrikezOne, are you an American?
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« Reply #5679 on: February 25, 2017, 10:23:58 PM »
HERE - CNN frontman says "We couldnt help her(Hillary) more than we have. She's got a free ride so far from the media, we're the biggest ones promoting her campaign"

HERE - MSNBC host says its their job to control what people think.

HERE - CNN edits out black woman saying to burn down white suburbs to promote BLM.

HERE - CNN interviews its own cameraman to act like a regular protester in the street.

HERE - Compilation of CNN and MSNBC cutting mics and live feeds of people to protect Hillary.

I should describe it as he and his fanboys live in an alternative reality. It's like a multiverse that is somehow currently visible. But it will fade away and the reality will return and he and them are gone.

And what kind of reality do you live in? Youre so smart and know it all, please let me know where that real world no bullshit reality is....
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5680 on: February 26, 2017, 04:38:18 AM »
HERE - CNN frontman says "We couldnt help her(Hillary) more than we have. She's got a free ride so far from the media, we're the biggest ones promoting her campaign"

HERE - MSNBC host says its their job to control what people think.

HERE - CNN edits out black woman saying to burn down white suburbs to promote BLM.

HERE - CNN interviews its own cameraman to act like a regular protester in the street.

HERE - Compilation of CNN and MSNBC cutting mics and live feeds of people to protect Hillary.

I should describe it as he and his fanboys live in an alternative reality. It's like a multiverse that is somehow currently visible. But it will fade away and the reality will return and he and them are gone.

And what kind of reality do you live in? Youre so smart and know it all, please let me know where that real world no bullshit reality is....

Faux News create program just for Trumpel where they invide a swedish security expert ... to support what Trumpel said.

Go find out what is the real deal behind this man. Worser isn't possible anymore. Sweden is a hate subject for extremist right US citizen since early 20th century, because the choose their own way between capitalism and communismn and they stayed neutral in cold war, which made them suspicous to extremist right US citizen. In fact Sweden runs pretty well all these last 80 years for such a small nation and many people including those origin from EU wanted to expat or similar to sweden, because of their success. And they still have. It's pure jealousy / enviousness that drops out of every pore by Trumpel and staff.

And about the Faux News expert. It's the same like Russia Today invites a German expert who is presented to the Russian people as having close contacts to German government and so on and he tells how worse the situation in Germany became. This man is a FAKE expert. He is nothing, but he tells what Putin wants to hear. Faux News = Russia Today.

Unbelieveable.

And Trumpel will face a successful impeachment during his 4 years or he will be declared as insane not able to do his job. I hope for the latter one.

HERE - CNN frontman says "We couldnt help her(Hillary) more than we have. She's got a free ride so far from the media, we're the biggest ones promoting her campaign"


It's interesting! Thanks. This youtube video about CNN has 93 views! Really relevant. Who could be the creator of this? Would you like to report this fake Faux News thing about Sweden to them, please?

One other thing. I'm capable of reading and understanding text the same time! I don't like watching those video stuff online. It is wasting time. I want to read text, preferable transcriptions. Because instead of watching a 5 minute video I can read text in less then half the time and still understand it. It's like all those online video tutorials people publish. They are doing a 30 minute video to explain something that can be done in a 1 page instruction text with maybe 5 screenshots which requires only 5 minutes of my attention and can be performed in the same time.

I have to ask: StrikezOne, are you an American?

The die hard Trumpel supporters like un-american activities, because they have a love for infiltration governments, conspiracy theories and destruction of the US.

Eg. above the link to about a protester who is actually a camera man of CNN story is from "Redacted Today" which is a "Russia Today" format. Excuse me! How can an American really do a citation of Russia Today? I said formerly this is not a valid news source. It is an unamerican Putin propaganda channel.

I don't include those who made a mistake by voting for him because they just wanted things changed but didn't expected that this man and his staff would behave as insane as they behave now.
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« Reply #5681 on: February 26, 2017, 05:58:39 PM »
Faux News create program just for Trumpel where they invide a swedish security expert ... to support what Trumpel said.

So are you saying or do you believe that CNN, MSNBC, PBS... has NEVER created a program just for Obama/Clinton where they invite some "expert" to support what Obama/Clinton said?

And about the Faux News expert. It's the same like Russia Today invites a German expert who is presented to the Russian people as having close contacts to German government and so on and he tells how worse the situation in Germany became. This man is a FAKE expert. He is nothing, but he tells what Putin wants to hear. Faux News = Russia Today.

F*** Fox News too. Yes I said it, F*** Fox News. I can show you some instances where they lie and deceit as well if you want me to. I dont rely on them so toss that argument out the window. The point Im trying to make isnt Fox News is better than CNN. What else you got?

It's interesting! Thanks. This youtube video about CNN has 93 views! Really relevant. Who could be the creator of this? Would you like to report this fake Faux News thing about Sweden to them, please?

HERE is the same video with 23,000 views. HERE is that same one with 75,000. HERE is one with 450,000.

So you basically deflected the context and brought up views... Again, toss that argument out the window. Look at the context and stop being narrow minded my friend, its not that hard.

One other thing. I'm capable of reading and understanding text the same time! I don't like watching those video stuff online. It is wasting time. I want to read text, preferable transcriptions.

That is exactly why I posted what was said in the videos because I knew someone would try some bullshit excuse about watching videos.

Eg. above the link to about a protester who is actually a camera man of CNN story is from "Redacted Today" which is a "Russia Today" format. Excuse me! How can an American really do a citation of Russia Today? I said formerly this is not a valid news source. It is an unamerican Putin propaganda channel.

Plenty people covered this story. Stop blaming Russia for everything.

Your arguments have been pretty low level here. You didnt really touch on any of the context in the videos provided. You simply deflected and ranted off subject. I mean, you brought up Russia so many times but I guess thats what the left loves to do. Was HANDS UP DONT SHOOT not a lie or something? So where is that magical real reality that trumpet protesters live in? Recognize that that left side is just as if not more(because they control way more MSM) deceitful and filled with lying POSs to further their agenda. Either that or just admit to being a close minded partisan shill.
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Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5682 on: February 28, 2017, 04:36:08 PM »
Zero humility and/or willful ignorance incoming.....

(ie: no recognition or acknowledgement of the fact that the CNNs of the world are clearly biased and fail at real nonpartisan journalism.)
Imagine if Obama, Kamala, or Biden survived two assassination attempts and the media not publicly destroying the reputation of everyone who issued even the most mild criticism of them and then just dropping the story completely.

Yeah, I cannot either.

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« Reply #5683 on: March 01, 2017, 05:53:41 PM »
What do you expect? That I take you a serious discussion member for presenting Russia Today? For presenting movies rather than text? What comes next as reliable source? Alex Jones with Inforwars as fact presenter? Or the right extremist Nazi site Breitbart news the aggregator of other news sources with adding hate? Sorry it's terrible - so sad!
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« Reply #5684 on: March 01, 2017, 08:40:47 PM »
Anyone catch El Presidente's dress rehearsal for the State of the Union Address?

I didn't. I don't watch such speeches anyway. I gather he read what was on the teleprompter quite well. Of course, given what we've seen from his campaign speeches and inaugural address, he had a real low bar to clear, so saying it was a "good" speech and he "looked presidential" isn't saying much.

It's worth noting that comments in his speech contradicted what he said earlier in the day - like how he said "Clean air and water are good", after revoking a regulation to keep the coal industry from dumping waste into rivers....

And he's living in some fantasy world if he thinks he can do all the budget things he wants. One gets the feeling that he believes he's playing a movie role instead of actually BEING PRESIDENT. Doing what draws attention rather than doing the multitude of dull, everyday tasks that need to be done. So many appointments have yet to be made, and even those who have been appointed (like Secretary of State Rex Tillerson) are finding themselves being ignored. If morale at the other big departments is anything like it is at State, we're in real bad shape:

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"There seems to be no effort to benefit from the knowledge and expertise of people who are here, who just want to help,” said the mid-level officer. Instead, they see the White House vilifying them as bureaucrats no one elected, and it all seems, the mid-level officer said, “symbolic of wanting to neuter the organization."

"This is probably what it felt like to be a British foreign service officer after World War II, when you realize, no, the sun actually does set on your empire," said the mid-level officer. "America is over. And being part of that, when it’s happening for no reason, is traumatic."

"The State of Trump's State Department", Julia Ioffe, The Atlantic

With regards to anonymity of sources: Don't forget that the House (led by the Republicans) reinstated the "Holman Rule" last month. That's a rule that allows any representative to stick an amendment onto any piece of appropriations legislation that will eliminate a single, specific position in the federal bureaucracy, or reduce its salary to a single dollar. So if your name gets published with something the GOP doesn't like, oops, sorry, you're not being fired, we're just eliminating your job! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
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