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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #7590 on: July 06, 2019, 01:04:59 PM »
Far left extremists burned the American flag in front of the White House amid the 4th of July celebration.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/04/independence-day-flag-burning-leads-scuffle-near-white-house/1652121001/

The leftists who burned the flag were part of an organization called the Revolutionary Communist Party.

Honest question, why is burning the United States flag considered "free speech" but burning the rainbow flag considered "hate speech"? Personally, I believe that if you take issue with burning the rainbow flag, you should also take issue with burning the US flag. And if you don't mind if the US flag gets burned, then you shouldn't mind if the rainbow flag gets burned.

Setting aside the legality of it, I don't think people should burn any flag.
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« Reply #7591 on: July 06, 2019, 03:21:58 PM »
I notice a huge upsurge on blaming the violence on Antifa radical leftist. Divide and conquer. Soon they will equate all those that agree with a radical congresswoman AOC will be thrown into the same lot as the Anitfa.

Yeah, now imagine if conservatives and the right wing:

1. Controlled roughly 90% of all MAINSTREAM media.
Effectively being able to sway public opinion while claiming to be impartial. Also, trying to aggressively shutdown independent news organizations.

2. Controlled Hollywood.
Effectively being able to push political agendas through movies. Giving little chance to actors with opposing view points. Shield themselves from criticism when promoting political ideologies in films that don't need it.

3. Controlled Television Networks
Effectively turning late night talk shows to political activisim. Promoting political ideologies in various television shows. From ABC to Disney.

4. Controlled Sports and Music
From MTV to ESPN, being able to promote and push political motives. Having the lead faces of sports and music push political ideologies.

5. Controlled Academia
Effectively having a majority of conservatives professors across the US pushing political agendas. Effectively shutting down speakers with opposing view points who wish to speak on a college campus. Being able to control the minds of the youth.

6. Controlled Sillicon Valley
Effectively having big tech companies like YouTube, Faceb00k, Twitter, Instagram, Pintrest, Apple and Google help push political ideologies. Creating algorithms to push one view point and silence any dissent by effectively dehumanizing them. And also being able to be caught red handed but still effectively convince the public to pay no attention whatsoever to it.

With all that power, imagine now they have to ability to label any person with an opposition view, regardless if insignificant, as an extremist, communist, nazi, racist, sexist, etc...

Wouldn't that suck?
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« Reply #7592 on: July 06, 2019, 03:35:10 PM »
I notice a huge upsurge on blaming the violence on Antifa radical leftist. Divide and conquer. Soon they will equate all those that agree with a radical congresswoman AOC will be thrown into the same lot as the Anitfa.

Yeah, now imagine if conservatives and the right wing:

1. Controlled roughly 90% of all MAINSTREAM media.
Effectively being able to sway public opinion while claiming to be impartial. Also, trying to aggressively shutdown independent news organizations.

2. Controlled Hollywood.
Effectively being able to push political agendas through movies. Giving little chance to actors with opposing view points. Shield themselves from criticism when promoting political ideologies in films that don't need it.

3. Controlled Television Networks
Effectively turning late night talk shows to political activisim. Promoting political ideologies in various television shows. From ABC to Disney.

4. Controlled Sports and Music
From MTV to ESPN, being able to promote and push political motives. Having the lead faces of sports and music push political ideologies.

5. Controlled Academia
Effectively having a majority of conservatives professors across the US pushing political agendas. Effectively shutting down speakers with opposing view points who wish to speak on a college campus. Being able to control the minds of the youth.

6. Controlled Sillicon Valley
Effectively having big tech companies like YouTube, Faceb00k, Twitter, Instagram, Pintrest, Apple and Google help push political ideologies. Creating algorithms to push one view point and silence any dissent by effectively dehumanizing them. And also being able to be caught red handed but still effectively convince the public to pay no attention whatsoever to it.

With all that power, imagine now they have to ability to label any person with an opposition view, regardless if insignificant, as an extremist, communist, nazi, racist, sexist, etc...

Wouldn't that suck?

It did suck and not enough people wanted it so that idea died. That's is why the conservative have to cheat to win election. They lost the popular vote, but won with Russian meddling. By the way communist party are more associated with the republican party, not the leftist socialist democrat.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #7593 on: July 06, 2019, 04:22:21 PM »
I notice a huge upsurge on blaming the violence on Antifa radical leftist. Divide and conquer. Soon they will equate all those that agree with a radical congresswoman AOC will be thrown into the same lot as the Anitfa.

Yeah, now imagine if conservatives and the right wing:

1. Controlled roughly 90% of all MAINSTREAM media.
Effectively being able to sway public opinion while claiming to be impartial. Also, trying to aggressively shutdown independent news organizations.

2. Controlled Hollywood.
Effectively being able to push political agendas through movies. Giving little chance to actors with opposing view points. Shield themselves from criticism when promoting political ideologies in films that don't need it.

3. Controlled Television Networks
Effectively turning late night talk shows to political activisim. Promoting political ideologies in various television shows. From ABC to Disney.

4. Controlled Sports and Music
From MTV to ESPN, being able to promote and push political motives. Having the lead faces of sports and music push political ideologies.

5. Controlled Academia
Effectively having a majority of conservatives professors across the US pushing political agendas. Effectively shutting down speakers with opposing view points who wish to speak on a college campus. Being able to control the minds of the youth.

6. Controlled Sillicon Valley
Effectively having big tech companies like YouTube, Faceb00k, Twitter, Instagram, Pintrest, Apple and Google help push political ideologies. Creating algorithms to push one view point and silence any dissent by effectively dehumanizing them. And also being able to be caught red handed but still effectively convince the public to pay no attention whatsoever to it.

With all that power, imagine now they have to ability to label any person with an opposition view, regardless if insignificant, as an extremist, communist, nazi, racist, sexist, etc...

Wouldn't that suck?

It did suck and not enough people wanted it so that idea died. That's is why the conservative have to cheat to win election. They lost the popular vote, but won with Russian meddling. By the way communist party are more associated with the republican party, not the leftist socialist democrat.

1. I'm against generalizing. I dislike it but have to admit, with shame, that I've done it myself a few times. But I think we can agree and be on the same side that we shouldn't generalize and label groups of people like that. We can agree there right? If so, progress!

2. You said, "that's why conservatives have to cheat to win" is that because they don't control any of the things I listed? So are you admitting and acknowledging then that liberal, left wing controls all those things I listed? Because its almost as if you didn't read any of the post only the last sentence. You used the word "did" as if I asked "doesn't that suck."

3. The popular vote is irrelevant for a reason. We have electoral college for a reason. We have it so 4 cities (LA, new york, chicago, Houston) don't determine the results for the whole country. Presidential candidates would only campaign in those cities.

4. And do you really believe Russia had that much of an influence? Are they gonna have that much of an influence on this upcoming election? Or are the democrats making fools out of themselves all by themselves?

Please respond to each point. I marked them by numbers to make each conversation more easier.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #7594 on: July 06, 2019, 04:59:43 PM »
I notice a huge upsurge on blaming the violence on Antifa radical leftist. Divide and conquer. Soon they will equate all those that agree with a radical congresswoman AOC will be thrown into the same lot as the Anitfa.

Yeah, now imagine if conservatives and the right wing:

1. Controlled roughly 90% of all MAINSTREAM media.
Effectively being able to sway public opinion while claiming to be impartial. Also, trying to aggressively shutdown independent news organizations.

2. Controlled Hollywood.
Effectively being able to push political agendas through movies. Giving little chance to actors with opposing view points. Shield themselves from criticism when promoting political ideologies in films that don't need it.

3. Controlled Television Networks
Effectively turning late night talk shows to political activisim. Promoting political ideologies in various television shows. From ABC to Disney.

4. Controlled Sports and Music
From MTV to ESPN, being able to promote and push political motives. Having the lead faces of sports and music push political ideologies.

5. Controlled Academia
Effectively having a majority of conservatives professors across the US pushing political agendas. Effectively shutting down speakers with opposing view points who wish to speak on a college campus. Being able to control the minds of the youth.

6. Controlled Sillicon Valley
Effectively having big tech companies like YouTube, Faceb00k, Twitter, Instagram, Pintrest, Apple and Google help push political ideologies. Creating algorithms to push one view point and silence any dissent by effectively dehumanizing them. And also being able to be caught red handed but still effectively convince the public to pay no attention whatsoever to it.

With all that power, imagine now they have to ability to label any person with an opposition view, regardless if insignificant, as an extremist, communist, nazi, racist, sexist, etc...

Wouldn't that suck?

It did suck and not enough people wanted it so that idea died. That's is why the conservative have to cheat to win election. They lost the popular vote, but won with Russian meddling. By the way communist party are more associated with the republican party, not the leftist socialist democrat.

1. I'm against generalizing. I dislike it but have to admit, with shame, that I've done it myself a few times. But I think we can agree and be on the same side that we shouldn't generalize and label groups of people like that. We can agree there right? If so, progress!

2. You said, "that's why conservatives have to cheat to win" is that because they don't control any of the things I listed? So are you admitting and acknowledging then that liberal, left wing controls all those things I listed? Because its almost as if you didn't read any of the post only the last sentence. You used the word "did" as if I asked "doesn't that suck."

3. The popular vote is irrelevant for a reason. We have electoral college for a reason. We have it so 4 cities (LA, new york, chicago, Houston) don't determine the results for the whole country. Presidential candidates would only campaign in those cities.

4. And do you really believe Russia had that much of an influence? Are they gonna have that much of an influence on this upcoming election? Or are the democrats making fools out of themselves all by themselves?

Please respond to each point. I marked them by numbers to make each conversation more easier.

??? Like you would answer to every point in the past that got asked to you? If you did, then the only answer was that you answered with WHATABOUTISM.
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« Reply #7595 on: July 06, 2019, 05:48:53 PM »
You are a living example of influence by propaganda when you ignore truth and fact. Read the Mueller report, listen to the FBI, check out the investigative journalist that take apart your Trump lies. If you can pry yourself away from Russian propaganda then ask me how you did it and you got your answer.

You ask can the Russian influence this next election, and the answer is that once you know then I will know. When you and your minion trumpeter get inform and decipher fiction and truth, and actually read these report from the DOJ and the FBI. Then maybe not. It's really up to the  comprehension skill of the far right. As much negative energy that you seem to be experiencing of the way the Trump is being reported in the news, and being investigated with 10 instances of violating Obstruction charges by the Mueller report, that by sticking with him basically come down to one thing that is undeniably apparent is that you only support him because he hates the same people you hate. Pure racism, full blown NAZIsm.
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« Reply #7596 on: July 06, 2019, 06:36:06 PM »
As much negative energy that you seem to be experiencing of the way the Trump is being reported in the news, and being investigated with 10 instances of violating Obstruction charges by the Mueller report, that by sticking with him basically come down to one thing that is undeniably apparent is that you only support him because he hates the same people you hate. Pure racism, full blown NAZIsm.

1. What is the underlying crime for that alleged obstruction of justice?

2. Wrong. We don't hate anyone. Conservatives tend to just think liberals are wrong. Whereas liberals tend to just think conservatives are evil.

You are a living example of influence by propaganda when you ignore truth and fact. Read the Mueller report, listen to the FBI, check out the investigative journalist that take apart your Trump lies. If you can pry yourself away from Russian propaganda then ask me how you did it and you got your answer.

Truth and fact huh? Propaganda huh?

Like the narrative about Trump saying the moon itself is part of mars?
Like the Covington catholic/ native American narrative?
Like jussie smullett?
Like the fake TIME magazine Trump cover?
Like the false report of the MLK statue removal on Trumps first day of office?
Like when Trump called ms-13 "animals" but the narrative was that he called all immigrants "animals"?
Like the "believe all women" narrative but quietly dismiss it when it came to Biden and avenatti?

Shall I keep going?

I mean your version of "truth and fact" is that there are concentration camps at the US border for crying out loud. Did you know that A LOT of democrats denounced that?

At this point, you guys can't practice what you preach. You guys can't look in the mirror. You guys are coming off as anti-American. I mean, you want open borders and free everything for everyone.
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #7597 on: July 06, 2019, 08:06:46 PM »
The last 2 days was all to show how bad the moderation actually works.

Yes all symptoms if moderators fall for the Nazis tricks. When you demask the methods by posting how the mods get manipulated by the board Nazis and reflect it back to them and also post a 20 point list of a German journalist essay how to identify a far right wing extremist discussion style, then the moderator deletes the whole post instead of editing out the 3-4 problematic half sentences.
I still have screenshots of it, just before I did some manual translation correction over the day. Nice experiment...

In that moment the moderator teams up with the Nazi trolls, instead of doing his job qualified. I guess you don't get or very little money for this job and it is very time consuming doing it beside RL, but then it is even more important to give the right rules how discussions are correctly done and execute them thoroughly.

For example what Strikezone did and how he does repeatedly misuse debates isn't worth to spend much moderators time and ban him. By the way the same applies for me since I intentionally took his style and even went further to make a point how bad moderation works.

For Pendejo is still hope, but StrikeZone is down in his Nazi shit hole echo chamber.

Well, I guess then that deleting your (rather inflammatory) posts got you to reveal your true colours pretty quick. I'd call that a win for the mods.

Oh and

You can't get it even right who used the term Nazi the first time in present day meaning, what do you want to tell me here you are a joke as a moderator.

I don't believe I mentioned anything about who first used the term Nazi. Incidentally, the term Nazi predates the National Socialist and Workers party,  an insult in use long before the rise of Adolf Hitler's party. It was a derogatory term for a backwards peasant – being a shortened version of the German name Ignatz (Ignatius), a common name in Bavaria, the area from which the Nazis originated. Opponents latched onto this and shortened the party's title Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, to the dismissive "Nazi" . The first use of the term "Nazi" by the National Socialists occurred in 1926 in a publication by Joseph Goebbels called Der Nazi-Sozi ("The Nazi-Sozi"). In Goebbels' pamphlet, the word "Nazi" only appears when linked with the word "Sozi" as an abbreviation of "National Socialism". Essentially it is just one more example of a word being corrupted and taken from its original meaning to have a darker meaning, a bit like the Nazi party themselves when they corrupted the Swastika, which was an ancient symbol used by indian religions.

I am pretty tolerant for a guy who has seen you break most of these rules.

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« Reply #7598 on: July 07, 2019, 12:21:45 AM »
Free Universal health care COULD NEVER WORK ...unless you live in: Australia Austria Belgium Canada Chile Czech Republic Denmark Finland France Germany Greece Hungary Iceland Israel Italy Japan Netherlands New Zealand Norway Poland Portugal S Korea Spain Sweden Switzerland Turkey UK

So much for freedom as if its a anti-American thing. Back where I am from we grew up thinking "Freedom" was our national motto. Ronald Reagan told Gorbachev to tear down these walls. Here we are a Life time president wanna be is building walls, 1.7 miles long for 13 billion dollars. Wall street bailout was socialism, Oil and gas subsidy was socialism, and Billions spent on the military was socialism, but providing welfare, education and health care for the common folks is communist.

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #7599 on: July 07, 2019, 02:17:20 AM »
The last 2 days was all to show how bad the moderation actually works.

Yes all symptoms if moderators fall for the Nazis tricks. When you demask the methods by posting how the mods get manipulated by the board Nazis and reflect it back to them and also post a 20 point list of a German journalist essay how to identify a far right wing extremist discussion style, then the moderator deletes the whole post instead of editing out the 3-4 problematic half sentences.
I still have screenshots of it, just before I did some manual translation correction over the day. Nice experiment...

In that moment the moderator teams up with the Nazi trolls, instead of doing his job qualified. I guess you don't get or very little money for this job and it is very time consuming doing it beside RL, but then it is even more important to give the right rules how discussions are correctly done and execute them thoroughly.

For example what Strikezone did and how he does repeatedly misuse debates isn't worth to spend much moderators time and ban him. By the way the same applies for me since I intentionally took his style and even went further to make a point how bad moderation works.

For Pendejo is still hope, but StrikeZone is down in his Nazi shit hole echo chamber.

Well, I guess then that deleting your (rather inflammatory) posts got you to reveal your true colours pretty quick. I'd call that a win for the mods.

Oh and

You can't get it even right who used the term Nazi the first time in present day meaning, what do you want to tell me here you are a joke as a moderator.

I don't believe I mentioned anything about who first used the term Nazi. Incidentally, the term Nazi predates the National Socialist and Workers party,  an insult in use long before the rise of Adolf Hitler's party. It was a derogatory term for a backwards peasant – being a shortened version of the German name Ignatz (Ignatius), a common name in Bavaria, the area from which the Nazis originated. Opponents latched onto this and shortened the party's title Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, to the dismissive "Nazi" . The first use of the term "Nazi" by the National Socialists occurred in 1926 in a publication by Joseph Goebbels called Der Nazi-Sozi ("The Nazi-Sozi"). In Goebbels' pamphlet, the word "Nazi" only appears when linked with the word "Sozi" as an abbreviation of "National Socialism". Essentially it is just one more example of a word being corrupted and taken from its original meaning to have a darker meaning, a bit like the Nazi party themselves when they corrupted the Swastika, which was an ancient symbol used by indian religions.

I am pretty tolerant for a guy who has seen you break most of these rules.

4. PERSONAL CONDUCT
We value free speech in our forums, yet we also expect our users to conduct themselves with civility.  In order to maintain both standards, the following rules of personal conduct will be enforced:

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    Do not post at all unless you can find a polite, respectful way to express yourself.
    Do not threaten (or pretend to threaten) any user, model, or other person.
    Do not post hate speech directed toward any person or group.


The difference between you and the other posters on this board that you say I 'protect' or 'collude with'  is that they don't attack the mods. As far as I am concerned, you are on your last warning. Three strikes and you are out.

I said the usage of Nazi in todays meaning and not in any other meaning as you try to present it now to me. You used Stalin ... who would come up with yet another mass murder Stalin for using term nazi. Again I mean the term Nazi in the correct usage of today meaning of Nazi. And not or example the today nazis in Germany use the term Nazi for German chancellor Merkel, for all democratic politicans and for all democratic oriented persons, that are against and against speaking the todays German nazi party.

You can reflect rule 4 as often as you want, I know it and that's the rule why I post how I post - with intention!

Obviously your post shows that you don't have understood the rule 4 of this board yourselves, otherwise this thread would look totally different, because this other user STARTED FROM THE BEGINNING to break this rule and thus I say FREE SPEECH IS NOT PREACHING HATE SPEECH. This guy repeatedly broke it by hate speech towards groups. And I don't mean his preaching hate speech against Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama or the democratic party ... I mean groups that are weak and whose basic human rights are mistreated permanently. And I mean the Nazi meme that ask beat to death the CNN moderators and things like that. The meme alone he posted was reason enough to instantly ban such a person by your rules. What a 3 strike rule for asking to murder someone? Even if it is a meme! This person in Germany would be now a case for the police. By the way I Germany 1 month ago a local politican was executed by shot in the head from close distance. The reason was this PREACHING HATE SPEECH.

I started to use his same style and thus broke the rule and even on top set some more of this to make it visible. If this guy repeatedly doesn't follow the rules, why should I. Why should a NAZI not follow rules and a democratic oriented person like myself should?

And for this I posted the 20 topics a journalist put together to identify a Nazi. And you deleted it instead of editing out my 3-4 problematic half sentences. Keep the rest of the post and then ban me for the half-sentences.

You still don't realize that the Nazi did it ... you give a shit on the rules. What a looser of a moderator ... you protect Nazis.

Finally execute the rules! You are a joke of a moderator if you don't execute the rules thoroughly or you even only execute them selectively fitting to YOUR political believes! And you are pissed because I do critiques on your weak moderation style on your bias towards those that don't like political correctness either. Because how you expressed your scorn about political correctness this reflects your political believees and causes your bias in moderation, too. Open your mind and then go back and read StrikeZone fucking posts with his preaching hate speech against groups. Either start to moderate unbiased (means ban StrikeZone and me at the same time) or you should better get fired for your poor moderation. It is not up to me to fire you, I am not the owner, but you are a problem here!

At least I am a person that regulary reflects (I fully know what I do here and how it looks and what the consequences are - I give a shit), but you don't.

My oh my. I take screenshots again ...
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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #7600 on: July 07, 2019, 02:28:56 AM »
Free Universal health care COULD NEVER WORK ...unless you live in: Australia Austria Belgium Canada Chile Czech Republic Denmark Finland France Germany Greece Hungary Iceland Israel Italy Japan Netherlands New Zealand Norway Poland Portugal S Korea Spain Sweden Switzerland Turkey UK

So much for freedom as if its a anti-American thing. Back where I am from we grew up thinking "Freedom" was our national motto. Ronald Reagan told Gorbachev to tear down these walls. Here we are a Life time president wanna be is building walls, 1.7 miles long for 13 billion dollars. Wall street bailout was socialism, Oil and gas subsidy was socialism, and Billions spent on the military was socialism, but providing welfare, education and health care for the common folks is communist.

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/07/interview-trump-supporter-shows-just-how?utm_source=social&utm_medium=**24**&utm_content=17740

Universial health care in Germany works since 1882 (I believe the year is correct, but if not it is just up to a few years later).

And 18 + 1 anonymous (he fears disadvantages for his business - which says a lot about conservatives) billionaires in the US ask the US government to rise the taxes for especially them and their fellow billionaires because they say they pay to few taxes ...
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« Reply #7601 on: July 07, 2019, 11:10:55 AM »
The last 2 days was all to show how bad the moderation actually works.

Yes all symptoms if moderators fall for the Nazis tricks. When you demask the methods by posting how the mods get manipulated by the board Nazis and reflect it back to them and also post a 20 point list of a German journalist essay how to identify a far right wing extremist discussion style, then the moderator deletes the whole post instead of editing out the 3-4 problematic half sentences.
I still have screenshots of it, just before I did some manual translation correction over the day. Nice experiment...

In that moment the moderator teams up with the Nazi trolls, instead of doing his job qualified. I guess you don't get or very little money for this job and it is very time consuming doing it beside RL, but then it is even more important to give the right rules how discussions are correctly done and execute them thoroughly.

For example what Strikezone did and how he does repeatedly misuse debates isn't worth to spend much moderators time and ban him. By the way the same applies for me since I intentionally took his style and even went further to make a point how bad moderation works.

For Pendejo is still hope, but StrikeZone is down in his Nazi shit hole echo chamber.

Well, I guess then that deleting your (rather inflammatory) posts got you to reveal your true colours pretty quick. I'd call that a win for the mods.

Oh and

You can't get it even right who used the term Nazi the first time in present day meaning, what do you want to tell me here you are a joke as a moderator.

I don't believe I mentioned anything about who first used the term Nazi. Incidentally, the term Nazi predates the National Socialist and Workers party,  an insult in use long before the rise of Adolf Hitler's party. It was a derogatory term for a backwards peasant – being a shortened version of the German name Ignatz (Ignatius), a common name in Bavaria, the area from which the Nazis originated. Opponents latched onto this and shortened the party's title Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, to the dismissive "Nazi" . The first use of the term "Nazi" by the National Socialists occurred in 1926 in a publication by Joseph Goebbels called Der Nazi-Sozi ("The Nazi-Sozi"). In Goebbels' pamphlet, the word "Nazi" only appears when linked with the word "Sozi" as an abbreviation of "National Socialism". Essentially it is just one more example of a word being corrupted and taken from its original meaning to have a darker meaning, a bit like the Nazi party themselves when they corrupted the Swastika, which was an ancient symbol used by indian religions.

I am pretty tolerant for a guy who has seen you break most of these rules.

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The difference between you and the other posters on this board that you say I 'protect' or 'collude with'  is that they don't attack the mods. As far as I am concerned, you are on your last warning. Three strikes and you are out.

I said the usage of Nazi in todays meaning and not in any other meaning as you try to present it now to me. You used Stalin ... who would come up with yet another mass murder Stalin for using term nazi. Again I mean the term Nazi in the correct usage of today meaning of Nazi. And not or example the today nazis in Germany use the term Nazi for German chancellor Merkel, for all democratic politicans and for all democratic oriented persons, that are against and against speaking the todays German nazi party.

You can reflect rule 4 as often as you want, I know it and that's the rule why I post how I post - with intention!

Obviously your post shows that you don't have understood the rule 4 of this board yourselves, otherwise this thread would look totally different, because this other user STARTED FROM THE BEGINNING to break this rule and thus I say FREE SPEECH IS NOT PREACHING HATE SPEECH. This guy repeatedly broke it by hate speech towards groups. And I don't mean his preaching hate speech against Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama or the democratic party ... I mean groups that are weak and whose basic human rights are mistreated permanently. And I mean the Nazi meme that ask beat to death the CNN moderators and things like that. The meme alone he posted was reason enough to instantly ban such a person by your rules. What a 3 strike rule for asking to murder someone? Even if it is a meme! This person in Germany would be now a case for the police. By the way I Germany 1 month ago a local politican was executed by shot in the head from close distance. The reason was this PREACHING HATE SPEECH.

I started to use his same style and thus broke the rule and even on top set some more of this to make it visible. If this guy repeatedly doesn't follow the rules, why should I. Why should a NAZI not follow rules and a democratic oriented person like myself should?

And for this I posted the 20 topics a journalist put together to identify a Nazi. And you deleted it instead of editing out my 3-4 problematic half sentences. Keep the rest of the post and then ban me for the half-sentences.

You still don't realize that the Nazi did it ... you give a shit on the rules. What a looser of a moderator ... you protect Nazis.

Finally execute the rules! You are a joke of a moderator if you don't execute the rules thoroughly or you even only execute them selectively fitting to YOUR political believes! And you are pissed because I do critiques on your weak moderation style on your bias towards those that don't like political correctness either. Because how you expressed your scorn about political correctness this reflects your political believees and causes your bias in moderation, too. Open your mind and then go back and read StrikeZone fucking posts with his preaching hate speech against groups. Either start to moderate unbiased (means ban StrikeZone and me at the same time) or you should better get fired for your poor moderation. It is not up to me to fire you, I am not the owner, but you are a problem here!

At least I am a person that regulary reflects (I fully know what I do here and how it looks and what the consequences are - I give a shit), but you don't.

My oh my. I take screenshots again ...

Well, you can't say you weren't warned.

See you in six months.

Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #7602 on: July 07, 2019, 12:12:51 PM »
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Anti-social behaviours lack consideration for the well-being of others. Any types of conduct that violates basic rights (human rights is one of them) of another person. It can show as covert or overt hostility.

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #7603 on: July 07, 2019, 02:27:06 PM »
I give a shit on you in 6 months time, too! Your decissions are bad. You are the worst moderator I ever saw. You are not unbiased. You favor Nazis.

Period!

In 6 months time I will say the same if you are still moderator. You have still a lot to learn in your life.

And obviously you need a baby sitter in the BEA team or you would have otherwise already banned me like those spammers in the Martina thread. Back then you could. But you don't have the eggs to cover the decission right now.

The point is, your moderation style causes that moderation loses all authority it would need! Execute thoroughly the rules, but not this "Wischi-Wachi" (this is German for undecided) style.

Yawn.

These rants should have an intermission. So I can take a whizz halfway through.

Favour Nazi's do I? Some of my friends are jewish, so I highly doubt that. Then again, you call anyone who doesn't agree with your leftist ideology as a Nazi. 

Your disrespect for this forum and it's moderators shows what we will precisely NOT be missing over the next six months. Of course I could have banned you permanently but your frankly not that important. A minor irritant, nothing more.

I'm used to looking after a three-year old who is more mature than you, maybe you should come out of your mom's basement every once in a while and converse with the three-dimensional people.

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Re: MERGED: The Politics Thread
« Reply #7604 on: July 07, 2019, 03:27:25 PM »
Hold on here! If you have to point out that you have friends that are Jew, then you are probably a racist. for pointing that out. But lets be clear on this, this is targeting hate toward the Hispanic population, and much of the beautiful model shown here in the BEA happen to be Hispanic. Whether its Jews or not, its about targeting a selected ethnic group that is being blame for their lot in life to build a division. I could get a rats ass if you don't agree with my leftist views. I only spoke up when people who can't defend themselves are being targeted with hate. I am not calling for a ban of free speech, and I respect that from you, but I also not going to be coddling hate speech from a hate group that are targeting those that can't defend themselves.

Just because you have friends that are Jews doesn't make you a non-racist, I have friends that are NAZI's and I get into a heated debate all the time. That can happen as well. Fear and ignorance of culture are the issues. I think maybe age as well. Those that are old enough to see violence and hatred personally at close hand that witness riot up close would be hard press to keep their emotion in check when NAZI's like diatribe is expose. I don't think anyone is old enough alive that experience having a president that is a hardcore racist as Andrew Jackson. This is a new territory for everyone still living. Maybe a time out would be beneficial, but I caution that it send a signal that Hate speech is tolerable. Saying you can tolerate these NAZI's speech on the forum because you have friends that are Jews is what startled me. That what the interpretation sound to me?!?!? It comes across marginalizing the issue of hate speech.
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