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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1020 on: July 10, 2006, 01:23:13 PM »
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Then again, I'm sure there are some who will argue that she must have gotten implants without his knowledge, because there's clearly "no way" a woman could ever get bigger later on in life without them.  




Ah, the last refuge of the ignorant... if you can't come up with an effective counter-argument, or disprove the argument itself, just insult the person who you disagree with... most people won't realize that you're not actually addressing the point.

As for women getting larger later in life, I have already discussed that here, and I stand by what I said.  If you don't agree with me, as I have said before, that is your prerogative.  But just because you don't and that you have to resort to insulting me doesn't mean that doing so makes me wrong.  Get a clue.
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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1021 on: July 10, 2006, 02:00:08 PM »
First off, that wasn't an insult, it was just a friendly "winking" jibe (hence the winking icon after it to indicate the tone)

Secondly, paragraph before it, which points to another link, is an effective counter-argument, which you ingored, choosing instead to take out of context the second paragraph and attack it and call me "ignorant" (something I have not done to you, sir)

Thirdly, I wasn't even talking about you Gizmo -- I was referring to one of the other posters in this thread.  If you read my post carefully, you'll figure out who it is.

I do respectfully disagree with you, and have pointed to numerous actual cases a evidence of my argument in this thread.  If you want to disagree with my living, breathing proof, that's your perogative but I didn't think you did since (if I remember correctly) you yourself admitted in another thread that your own wife went through the same thing with her pregnancy and that some of the growth she experienced ended up being permanent... or maybe I'm mistaken?  Maybe I am.


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Then again, I'm sure there are some who will argue that she must have gotten implants without his knowledge, because there's clearly "no way" a woman could ever get bigger later on in life without them.  




Ah, the last refuge of the ignorant... if you can't come up with an effective counter-argument, or disprove the argument itself, just insult the person who you disagree with... most people won't realize that you're not actually addressing the point.

As for women getting larger later in life, I have already discussed that here, and I stand by what I said.  If you don't agree with me, as I have said before, that is your prerogative.  But just because you don't and that you have to resort to insulting me doesn't mean that doing so makes me wrong.  Get a clue.


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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1022 on: July 10, 2006, 03:08:13 PM »
For some reason I feel the need to weigh into this debate... oh wait - it's about breasts growing, that's why!

I think that there is a logical conclusion wherein everyone is right  and Linsey is perfectly natural.

Consider:

1: In her more recent work, Linsey is certainly not as big as she was just before her miscarriage. Certainly I think it's true to say that if you review the "Huge Changes" set she's by far the biggest she ever was at any stage. Afterwards she was smaller, although I agree she did not seem to go down to her original size.

So, we can say that she got bigger whilst pregnant and didn't keep every last inch afterwards.

2: From my own observation of my friends, many of whom I've known from teenage years, there's nothing that says that 16 or 18 is some kind of magical cut off point when a persons body shape stops developing. Indeed it seems relatively common to put on a cup size between 18 and 22 or so without any particular weight gain.

So perhaps we could say that there's no real reason to suppose that Linsey had actually finished growing up when she started modelling.

3: Finally, as commented by someone in the "Natural models who've grown" thread, the one (virutally) guaranteed way to get bigger boobs is to put on weight.

Now, consider that we know different people tend (from hereitary tendancy or whatever) to deposit fat in different parts of their bodies. We have the poor "pear shapes", for example, where every ounce hits the hips and nothing goes elsewhere.

Given that, generally speaking, the business part of the breast (as in the milk generating bits) are a similar size whatever the cup size, we know that the rest is more or less fat. If you look at someone the shape of Linsey, Lizzie (above), Ewa or, for an extreme example, Merilyn you can see that the breasts are certainly the place where they tend to store fat. Disproportionately so in fact, which is why "naturally slim and stacked" is so terribly unusual in real life.

So we can see if Linsey or Merilyn put on a pound or two, the majority is going to land on their tits, with smaller amounts going elsewhere. To the extent that either of these girls could almost certainly put on several pounds in weight and add a cupsize without the added weight being obvious elsewhere.

Take, for a slightly more obvious example, Kerry Marie. If you look back at her first shoots she's really not that big up top (I'm speaking relatively of course). She gets consistently bigger throughout her career (something like a small F then to an advertised HH now (although I think she's doing herself down from her latest shoots)). Thing is though, it's not until a couple of years in that it really becomes obvious that she's steadily gaining weight. Of course it's obvious now because other parts of her are now noticably large (and none the worse for that) but it's still her boobs that shifted the most. You can also see a more subtle effect on Liz who's already been seen in this thread.  In her later shoots in which her boobs are larger, there's the gentlest curve on her stomach that wasn't there before and there's one less rib visible.

So in the course of her career we've got to get Linsey from maybe an F to an HH (or whatever Score billed her as). As far as my understanding of bra sizing goes we've maybe 3 or 4 cupsizes to go (depending on how many double letters we go via). Perhaps if she'd not really finished growing when she started modelling we have 1 - 2 sizes. Say she gained a few pounds over the years and we have another two. Add in the possibility that she put on a little weight whilst pregnant and didn't quite lose it all afterwards and we have the perception of not losing her pregnancy size.

Anyway, feel free to bash at my logic. Personally, having thought that lot through, I'm now surprised she's not bigger!

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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1023 on: July 11, 2006, 12:27:27 PM »
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Secondly, paragraph before it, which points to another link, is an effective counter-argument, which you ingored,...




Uh... no.  I didn't.  I have already discussed the issue twice.  I suggest you actually read my posts before you make claims about what I say.

As for further discussion, it's pointless.  You are simply refusing to see any validity in the things I say, and I don't believe your claims because you work in the industry.  As I've said before (and which you, actually, have ignored) is that believing your assertions on this topic is like believing Marlboro that cigarettes aren't addictive...  You're not in a position of objectivity about this issue.

Unless you actually can address the points, which you're so far clearly **86** to do so, I won't bother to respond here.  It's not worth my time.
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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1024 on: July 11, 2006, 01:57:14 PM »
Okay then, never mind.  

My employment in this business does not make me biased, but it does give me access to "insider" (for lack of a better word) information that you, and most folks, do not have -- it is this fact alone that makes me know for certain that I am correct in my opinion.  That's not to say I've never been wrong before, but the facts that I know make me confident of it.  That's all.

I will end my contribution to this thread by summing my opinion up:  comparing photos of 16 year old Lindsey to that of 24 year old (and pregnant at the time) Lindsey is NOT evidence of her having gotten implants.  
Okay, I'll shut up about it now  

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Uh... no.  I didn't.  I have already discussed the issue twice.  I suggest you actually read my posts before you make claims about what I say.

As for further discussion, it's pointless.  You are simply refusing to see any validity in the things I say, and I don't believe your claims because you work in the industry.  As I've said before (and which you, actually, have ignored) is that believing your assertions on this topic is like believing Marlboro that cigarettes aren't addictive...  You're not in a position of objectivity about this issue.

Unless you actually can address the points, which you're so far clearly **86** to do so, I won't bother to respond here.  It's not worth my time.


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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1025 on: July 11, 2006, 07:16:45 PM »
The joy of the 2 page post that gets deleted.  It may well be for the best as I'll just summarize here.

-1 in 100,000 women have idiopathic gigantomastia post pregnancy, meaning that their bust permanently increases to over 4,000 grams.  I have seen estimates at conferences that 1 in 5,000 women have permanent enlargement post-prenancy between 1,000 and 4,000 grams.  
-Researchers in the area are pretty convinced that permanent, non-puberty related enlargement is fairly common but under-reported, since if the enlargement is not a concern of the woman it is not related to the doctor.
-The fact that there is a recognized medical condition where breasts enlarge permanently post-puberty means it probably does happen.
-After 15 years in research surgery and pharmaceutical development I can say with certainty that the human body in an individual never works as neatly as the college texts would have you believe, if it did my job would be a hell of a lot easier and the pharmaceutical and surgical implant indutries would be far more productive.
-It is impossible to perform surgery without fibrous scarring at the incisions site.  Individuals will rebuild the area differently and careful incision site selection, closure methods, and post-op care will minimize it but can't eliminate it.  In addition, some women are blessed with minimal pigment differences between virgin skin and fibrous tisue.
-My wife went from a B-cup to a EE cup during pregnancy, post-nursing she dropped to a D which remained stable until the current pregnancy.  I am relatively sure that she did not have implants.  Her mom continued to expand without an increase in waste size into her forties, when she finally had a reduction.

In conclusion, while growth like Linsey, Chloe, or Joyce is rare it is certainly within the bounds of medicine.  Whether they had implants only they know but, barring any evidence such as scarring or reports from people close to them, I'm inclined to give some weight to the person here who actually knows them.  IOW, if Doug says that he is certain they didn't have them based on his personal relationship with them I see no competing data to disbelieve that at this time.

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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1026 on: July 11, 2006, 07:36:36 PM »
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LDM's were real.  Trust me.



Bonker how can you be so sure about this? Did u meet her for her London Escort service?
I know that many done! And all of them say that she is absolutely NATURAL!

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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1027 on: July 17, 2006, 09:36:14 PM »
Is it a pic of the actual Linsey?

It seem that the good days gone.
Sorry for my english.

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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1028 on: July 18, 2006, 01:40:37 AM »
Yes, that's how she looks now.

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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1029 on: July 30, 2006, 12:02:00 PM »
Does anybody have the video of LDM streaking at a soccer game?

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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1030 on: July 30, 2006, 02:08:46 PM »

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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1031 on: July 30, 2006, 02:30:17 PM »
Nice one, Liam!  

Heh, none of those guys must be wearing cups, or I think both teams would be showing more painful expressions...  

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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1032 on: July 30, 2006, 03:55:00 PM »
 

Why this reduction linsey...Why ??

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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1033 on: July 30, 2006, 04:20:50 PM »
That streak was actually some kind of publicity stunt.  I remember reading about it.  I wish there more publicity stunts like that!

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Re: Linsey Dawn McKenzie MERGED
« Reply #1034 on: August 01, 2006, 03:31:29 PM »
thanks for the link Liam.  Any idea why the other pages of archived videos of her aren't viewable?