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« Reply #90 on: August 31, 2011, 06:46:44 AM »
End of month, end of chapter.

So like I say, at the top of page 954 she's giving orders to the workers -- and then, boom, she notices John Galt standing amidst the workers with greasy overalls and rolled shirt sleeves.  I recall "The Fountainhead" mainly from the movie, but haven't we been here before, the headstrong aristocratic beyotch turned on by the sight of the master intellect in all his blue collar grubbiness?  Anyhow, from that point on she's only vaguely aware that she's continuing to give instructions, and then comes eight large paragraphs all beginning with "She."  There's a break for one paragraph, and the next five begin, in sequence, with "Then she," "He," "He," "Then she," and "He lay beside her."  Basically she goes off somewhere, he follows her, and the next thing she knows she's lying on broken sandbags while Galt gourmandizes her.  He works his way up her leg with his lips -- mmm, promising -- "then she felt her teeth sinking into the flesh of his arm, she felt the sweep of his elbow knocking her head aside and his mouth seizing her lips with a pressure more viciously painful than hers -- "  Is this passion, or subdued sadism, or just ineptitude?  Then we learn he's been watching her from afar for ten years, and in fact a Taggart track laborer for the twelve years since he pointedly walked out on the Twentieth Century Motor Company.  Then they talk about this being only one special moment, and that he must go on doing what he does, and that she has yet to join what Rand originally called The Strike.

          "Where are you going?"
          "To be a lamppost and stand holding a lantern till dawn -- which is the only work your world relegates me to and the only work it's going to get."

That's about all there is, but I thought I'd spotlight it.  Coming up: pretty much a full chapter devoted to chiseling Hank Rearden in his most heroic stature yet -- a little inconveniently raising the whole "Dagny is leaving Rearden for Galt!?" discussion.

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« Reply #91 on: September 01, 2011, 01:10:24 PM »
I admit, with the anniversary of this thread coming up next Saturday I've developed a raging hard-on to try to push this through to at least the Big Harangue by then.  So let us now consider chapter 26, entitled with fairly typical Randian overpreciousness "The Concerto of Deliverance."  (Ahh, if only Rand had any inkling of how "deliverance" would resonate in the public imagination once James Dickey got through with it.)

You know what, I stupidly plunged into this without checking an earlier post here first, hang on --

Yes, I KNEW it existed.  Back on page 554 we meet one Tom Colby, head of the Rearden Steel Workers Unions -- and Tom Colby is presented as GOOD.  Is this some sort of "See how reasonable I can be?" noise Rand is making, a little like the quick little comment to the effect of "Once we get rid of Lee J. Cobb as Johnny Friendly we can have a GOOD dockworkers' union once more" inserted in the movie "On the Waterfront"?  Or did Rand actually like, and not mind at all, Tom Colby's cameo?  Did she feel "So long as unions are REASONABLE, they're fine"?  You see, I have this suspicion that Randists don't mention Tom Colby very much -- nor, sadly, do many Rand critics, probably dismissing him as just some useless transparent ruse obstructing a larger argument.  But as for me, I love all this potential contradiction.  One critic attended a screening of the now-bombed attempt to film "Atlas Shrugged," and the only passion he detected from the audience came when Dagny impatiently ditches her cell phone (yeah, the story's supposed to be updated to 2016) rather than take a call from a union man.  There were cheers.  Ahh, but what if Rearden DID take a cell phone call from Tom Colby?  Of course, I rather doubt that Tom Colby ever had a chance of making it into the final screenplay.  Funny, these details.

I talk about Tom Colby at such length, because his appearance sure would be helpful somewhere at the beginning of this "Concerto" chapter.  The steel workers' union of Rearden Steel (notice how that official name used earlier has been dropped) demands a raise in wages -- but it's all very hazy and cryptic.  Do the demanders actually represent Rearden's workers?  It's a mystery -- though Rearden suspects newcomers slipped into his mills by the Unification Board over the past few months.  In any event, good old Tom Colby is nowhere to be found here, he only had that one cameo over four hundred pages ago. Next, the Board rejects (!) the Union's petition.  At no point is Rearden consulted, informed or notified of any of this.  Next thing we know, the newspapers (oh, how I will miss the newspapers) make a big deal of this falling out, without pursuing the specifics.  They talk about the misery of one Rearden worker's family as opposed to the shenanigans of a steel tycoon (not Rearden, but the always favored and always subcompetent Orren Boyle), and Rearden Steel's profits (from five years ago, before all this weird tinkering took over).  Some sabotage occurs.  Then Rearden receives word that all his property has been "attached" so as to satisfy a delinquent judgment against him in a three-year-old trial on delinquency of income tax payment -- except that there was never even any such trial.

Honestly -- just how useless can Rand make herself?  For back here in the real world of 2011, Ford, General Electric, and Verizon all got to pay NO corporate taxes, while their CEOs made millions.  Luckily -- for the story, anyway -- this is all just some momentary ruse.  People plead with him that it's all a mistake and a typical red tape snafu, etc., etc.  Evidently this is all leading up to asking him to a meeting, and Rearden in his typical spirit of grim amusement accepts.

But wait a minute, let's not so quickly forget that slam against a "lamestream media."  Ah yes, such unfair facts-juggling.  All I can say is that I would have loved to sic Rachel Maddow on Rand.  (And on the subject of Maddow, look, I'm sure Melissa Harris-Perry is sweet'n'all, but I really am missing the master touch, just saying.)

I would love to push on -- but as it just so happens, Rearden's stupid dysfunctional family has to get itself all tangled up in all of this, and I'm going to need to rest up for that.  But have no fear, we are now only 202 pages away from the end of all this.

ADDENDUM: Evidently I have another hundred minutes left before I lose the Modify option on this post, so why don't I at least try to sweep aside the whole dreary relentless subplot of Rearden's family.

Evidently no less than Philip Rearden is a "punk" or spy that the baddies had been hoping to use, but his failure to get Hank to hire him wrecks that plan.  Then, as Philip is wrangling with some "pull-peddler" named Claude Slagenhop, president of Friends of Global Progress, it dawns on him --

          ... "Say, Claude ... according to ... to Directive 10-289 ... if he goes, there's ... there's to be no heirs?"  "That's right."  "They'd seize the mills and ... and everything?"  "That's the law."  "But ... Claude, they wouldn't do that to me, would they?  "They don't want him to go.  You know that.  Hold him, if you can."  "But I can't!  You know I can't!  Because of my political ideas and ... and everything I've done for you, you know what he thinks of me!  I have no hold on him at all!"  "Well, that's your tough luck."  "Claude!" Philip had cried in panic.  "Claude, they won't leave me out in the cold, will they?  I belong, don't I?  They've always said I belonged, they've always said they needed me ... they said they needed men like me, not like him, men with my ... my sort of spirit, remember?  And after all I've done for them, after all my faith and service and loyalty to the cause -- "  "You damn fool," Slagenhop had snapped, "of what use are you to us without him?"

This is some real old-school villainy that Slagenhop is enjoying here -- the only way it could be more perfect is if Philip were his lover -- and I can't help but wonder if Rand was aware of that.

Next, Hank gets a call from his pain of a mother.  Hank agrees to see his mother (I forget if she ever actually merits a first name) but when he shows up Lillian is there too.  Lillian asks for mercy and some money, but even if he were so inclined, the whole alleged tax delinquency affair has resulted in the "attachment" of all he's got (save for the bar of gold Danneskjold gave him, hidden in a secret safe in his bedroom).  He tries to explain that now "nobody" owns his millions, and adds --

          " ... There isn't any ownership left in existence or any property.  It's what you've approved of and believed in for years.  You wanted me tied.  I'm tied.  Now it's too late to play any games about it."

Ma Rearden wrangles awhile with basically a variant on the same spiel that James Taggart tried on Cherryl.  Eventually the mother lets slip that they've basically come to him in the last nick of time left, to get some money off him before the upcoming meeting has some no doubt even more gouging effect upon him.  As he rises to his feet she screams --

          "Wait!  Don't go!  Henry, don't abandon us!  Don't sentence us to perish!  Whatever we are, we're human!  We want to live!"
          "Why, no -- " he started in quiet astonishment and ended in quiet horror, as the thought struck him fully, "I don't think you do.  If you did, you would have known how to value me."

This, right here, is about as near to a clear open confession of "What the heck do Rand's demigods really want anyway?" as I've yet been able to detect: I've decided you don't know how to value me, fuck off.

Lillian lets loose that she **84** with Jim Taggart -- and Hank, much like ourselves, wonders who should give a fuck (so to speak).  Then Ma Rearden asks:

          ... "Are you really incapable of forgiveness?"
          "No, Mother," he answered.  "I would have forgiven the past -- if, today, you had urged me to quit and disappear."

He goes off to the meeting with some slimy pull-peddlers -- and there I'll leave this, except to say that we have MUCH better scenes coming right up.  Really, enough of the Rearden family already.

I've concluded that arch-conservatives luhhhhhv hell.  It is perhaps not for nothing that what you call hell, Rambo calls home.  Seriously, though, they seem to enjoy this dragging out of the inevitable punishment of sinners.  This crosses my mind, because something I saw lately actually managed to appeal to me on that level.  It was an original "Outer Limits" episode, "The Guests," one with almost no remaining pretense of science fiction, almost all horror.  A young man -- Geoffrey Horne, who was "introduced" way back in "The Bridge on the River Kwai" -- finds himself stuck in an old house with four people also sticking around, presumably jailed by some yukky, possibly extraterrestrial super-intellect upstairs.  Yet each person presumably already knows his or her way out, but they all delude themselves into staying.  With the notable exception of Luana Anders, the love interest, they're not terribly evil but just rather horrid: the vain movie star threatening to devolve into Norma Desmond, the smugly jovial know-it-all of an old man, and Nellie Burt's delicious role as a rather snide and sadistic little old lady.  Eventually the house dissolves, and as it does there's a brief, and really rather unnecessary, scene in which the main drawing room is going dark and the three horrids are screaming over their destruction.  After having had to put up with them for the better part of an hour, I did get a kick out of it -- but the beauty was that I could actually recognize their syndromes, they reminded me a little of real life.  My problem with Rand's foils is that I might actually join her hellish glee, but I can't, for the simple reason that these characters are unrecognizable to me, they were insane when I first met them  and they still are.  It's just not as satisfactory.
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« Reply #92 on: September 03, 2011, 08:08:44 PM »
Time for ol' Hank to shine, but first this scene:

          "... He looked at the great city ... it was not a city of gangsters or panhandlers or derelicts or whores, it was the greatest industrial achievement in the history of man ... "

How times have changed, when 54 years ago an arch-conservative could dare confess such love for New York City.  Nowadays it seems all cities and city folk are to be shunned.

Hank gets a Steel Unification Plan foisted upon him.  Earnings are supposed to be distributed equally according to number of furnaces -- regardless of how low-yield or simply off-line those furnaces are -- and Hank makes the simple arithmetical case that he's been asked to be bled to support Orren Boyle, when Rearden is already producing mightily and is more important to the economy than Boyle.  After so many unfounded claims throughout this book, the basic arithmetic at the top of page 981 is slightly refreshing and I would rather that Rand had attempted such all throughout.  "Conditions will change," they insist.  "Who will change them?" Rearden wonders -- and with that, we will pick up again sometime on page 985.

************

Eh, it's time.

The argument continues, until Hank says:

          "There's no way to make the irrational work."  There was no answer.  "What can save you now?"
          "Oh, you'll do something!" cried James Taggart.

That single retort sets off a reverie in Hank which more or less wraps up with "We'll get away with it -- he'll let us -- he'll do something! ... "  Hank pointedly leaves, and discovers some sort of riot breaking out at his mills.  He happens upon the young worker he calls the Wet Nurse, who's been badly shot ... yet remains perfectly capable ... of talking ... for page after page ... with ellipsis after ellipsis ... kind of like this.  As the kid tells it:

          "No!  Wait!  I ... I don't think I have much time left to me and ... and I've got to tell you ... Listen, that riot ... it's staged ... on orders from Washington ... it's not workers ... not your workers ... it's those new boys of theirs and ... and a lot of goons hired on the outside ... "

A bit later:

          "They ... they've got a Steel Unification Plan ready ... and they need an excuse for it ... because they know that the country won't take it ... and you won't stand for it ... They're afraid this one's going to be too much for everybody ... it's just a plan to skin you alive, that's all ... So they want to make it look like your starving your workers ... and the workers are running amuck and you're unable to control them ... and the government's got to step in for your own protection and for public safety ... That's going to be their pitch, Mr. Rearden ... "

And later still: "They didn't want you to be here, Mr. Rearden ... They didn't want you here to see their 'People's rebellion' ... "  Hank tries to get the kid, whose name is actually Tony, out alive, and even gives him a pre-Danny-Glover-as-Murtaugh speech roughly amounting to "You don't die till I tell you to die" -- but it's no good, Tony dies, and this sets off yet another Rearden reverie inveighing bitterly against parents and teachers who taught Tony moral relativism.

The whole thing feels downright Dickensian, and I mean Dickens at his most shameless.  Dickens killed off little Nell Trent at great length in "The Old Curiosity Shop," and now it was Tony's turn.

Hank heads back to his mills -- but at this point I can afford to save the odd little ending to this chapter for another day.    
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« Reply #93 on: September 07, 2011, 07:15:29 PM »
Feeling pretty good today, have a little time -- why don't I finish chapter 26?

I have to say, a lot of it feels like one long sludgy hallucination.  Good honest workers are turning the tide against the goons, and then --

          "On the roof ... he saw, as he came closer, the slim silhouette of a man who held a gun in each hand and, from behind the protection of a chimney, kept firing at intervals down into the mob, firing swiftly and, it seemed, in two directions at once, like a sentinel protecting the approaches to the gate.  The confident skill of his movements, his manner of firing, with no time wasted to take aim, but with the kind of casual abruptness that never misses a target, made him look like a hero of Western legend -- and Rearden watched him with detached, impersonal pleasure, as if the battle of the mills were not his any longer, but he could still enjoy the sight of the competence and certainty with which men of that distant age had once confronted evil."

(cue "The William Tell Overture")  Here he comes, man of mystery riding to the rescue, to combat unionism gone mad and Washington gangsterism gone amok, to defend the movers of the world and to strike down the brutish looters, with swift certain justice blazing from his six-guns, who is this man, who is this hero, who can he be but -- THE LONE RANDIST!  Yes, THE LONE RANDIST, there at every battle, a friend in time of abandonment, a beacon in time of darkness, THE LONE RANDIST shall sally forward and save the day, believe, all of you, believe in THE LONE RANDIST!  Hi ho, gold, awayyy!

Perhaps it was inevitable.  This novel has varied enough from modern arch-conservatism on too many counts.  An end to petroleum?  The Cold War as mere hype and the Bomb as evil?  It takes a bit of spinmeistering to make all this palatable to the far right in 2011.  But at last, Rand shows that she's nuts about the whole gun culture.

Still, it's so dreadfully Hollywood.  He never aims!?  Give me a break.

Rearden is accosted but a doctor gets hold of him and patches him up, all the while telling Rearden how a furnace foreman named Frank Adams was in fact the Lone Randist:

          ... "Who was it who saved my life?  Somebody grabbed me as I fell, and fired at those thugs."
          "Did he!  Straight at their faces.  Blew their heads off ... "

As I read that description, I suddenly wonder at political ramifications of this whole new zombie craze -- well, anyway, of course "Frank Adams" turns out to be d'Anconia.  (I'd've gone with the alias "Frank Duncan" myself, but oh well.)  By the way, "Undercover Boss" is indeed a silly show -- but imagine how much it could clear up in this book ahead of time.  Dagny never knew that Galt was working for her, and now Rearden learns that d'Anconia has been his furnace foreman for two months now.  This is positively thematic.

Anyhow, the way is now cleared for chapter 27, entitled "This is John Galt Speaking."  One review of the recent "Shrugged" movie opined that the third and final installment in the eventual trilogy would amount to nothing but a two-hour speech, and I can't blame him.  Now's the time to pop LOTS of popcorn.

ADDENDUM: And while you're popping all that corn, maybe I can kill off the few pages remaining before John Galt actually speaks.  As chapter 27 begins, James complains to Dagny that Hank has vanished, and of course she can only laugh in triumph.  James asks that Dagny use her appeal to Hank as his lover to bring him back, but she can only drip contempt.  The newspapers go wild with combating theories about and spins on the disappearance, amounting to -- It is social treason: to ascribe too much importance to the desertion of any one person, even Hank Rearden; or, to spread any rumors of his desertion at all, when he is back in his office and there has only been some slight scuffle; or, to cast an unpatriotic light on the tragic loss of Hank Rearden in a car accident."  In such a sitution only the denials convey actual news.  Amidst all this, Dagny eventually gets a letter postmarked from Colorado saying only: "I have met him.  I don't blame you.  H.R."  Hey, I'm glad someone in this novel has learned the art of terseness, even if the author hasn't.

Violence -- real violence -- keeps breaking out, until at last a statement goes out that Mr. Thompson will address the nation at 8 PM on November 22 about "the world crisis."  Dagny is asked to appear at a conference a mere half-hour before the broadcast, but she agrees, but only if she can bring Eddie Willers.  Getting there, she's a bit shocked to see how much the great Dr. Robert Stadler has aged in just the past year.  Dagny gets introduced to Mr. Thompson --

          "So nice of you to come, Miss Taggart," said Mr. Thompson, shaking her hand as if she were another voter back home whose name he had never heard before; then he marched briskly off.

Dagny asks "Where's the conference, Jim?" and he can only snap "I can't help it!  I don't run this show!"  So much for a conference, then.  In this book's sole concession to the existence of television, Dagny is asked to be seated in a nice big cozy group picture to Mr. Thompson's right, but she refuses.  This is about to start an argument -- but then the station's chief engineer has a weird announcement:

          "It looks like a wall of radio waves jamming the air, and we can't get through, we can't touch it, we can't break it ... What's more, we can't locate its source, not by any of our usual methods ... These waves sem to come from a transmitter that ... that makes any known to us look like a **09**'s toy!"  (He has also said it's on "a frequency never produced before, never observed anywhere, never discovered by anybody.")  Dr. Stadler cries "But that's not possible!" -- and I have to say, I'm inclined to agree, this smacks once more of Rand pulling another handy techno-miracle directly out of her panties.  Anyhow, frustrated by this Jules-Verne-like blow to his great speech, Mr. Thompson cries out for someone, anyone, to do something, anything, and is reduced to:

          "Isn't there anybody around to obey an order?" cried Mr. Thompson.  "Isn't there a brain left in this country?"
          The hand of the clock reached the dot of 8:00.
          "Ladies and gentlemen," said a voice that came from the radio receiver -- a man's clear, calm, implacable voice, the kind of voice that had not been heard on the airwaves for years -- "Mr. Thompson will not speak to you tonight.  His time is up.  I have taken it over.  You were to hear a report on the world crisis.  That is what you are going to hear."

          Three people recognize the voice.  There's Eddie Willers, but no one (sadly) pays him any mind.  Dagny gasps in triumph, Stadler in terror, and they both look at each other -- and now, at last, we are all set for a 59-page harangue.  But not just this second.  Later, later. 8)
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« Reply #94 on: September 09, 2011, 10:30:49 PM »
It is an interesting bit of timing (oh, all right, with breaks sometimes as long as two months) that the anniversary of this thread finally brings us to the Big Harangue -- but first, I still can't quite get over the whole "Frank Adams, the Lone Randist" business we've just come through.  Was Rand somehow not quite able to bring herself to use a cowboy hero, and so figured that a wannabe gaucho might do the trick?  (Imagine if Francisco could have stopped men with bolas!)  Having established Danneskjold as a kind of anti-Robin-Hood, did she seek out Francisco as some anti-Zorro?

Anyhow, cosmologists speculate that our universe was born with a Big Bang, and it is Rand's thesis that a grand renaissance of civilization can be set in motion by a Big Harangue, so now, here it comes -- and I'll be taking my time with it, I don't mind deconstructing this alleged thesis piece by piece, I've come this far this long and damn it, I'm going to sort this all out.  First, though, a self-congratulatory preamble:

          "For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt?  This is John Galt speaking.  I am the man who loves his life.  I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values.  I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are perishing -- you who dread knowledge -- I am the man who will now tell you."

At this point there's a paragraph which seems to convey Rand's contempt for the very idea of television, as this is purely audial and there's no picture whatsoever -- but might I say, this sounds a bit typical of the very old-school heroes, this "I love my life and exude wit and confidence" business.  Perhaps it goes at least as far back as Percival Blakeney playing the fop and secretly working as a master of disguise and escape calling himself the Scarlet Pimpernel, and in more recent times you get just about every hero Errol Flynn ever played, the droll pithy epitaphs of Sean Connery as James Bond, and Clive Cussler's relentlessly upbeat Dirk Pitt (no Pitt of despair he).  I've always figured that being any kind of hero is tough enough without being required to seem effortless and lighthearted about it.  But to proceed:

          "You have heard it said that this is an age of moral crisis ... You have cried that man's sins are destroying the world and you have cursed human nature for its unwillingness to practice the virtues you demanded.  Since virtue, to you, consists of sacrifice,  you have demanded more sacrifices ... You have sacrificed justice to mercy ... independence to unity ... reason to faith ... wealth to need ... self-esteem to self-denial ... happiness to duty.
          "You have destroyed all that which you held to be evil and achieved all that which you held to be good.  Why, then, do you shrink in horror at the sight of the world around you?  This world is not the product of your sins, it is the product and the image of your virtues.  It is your moral ideal brought into reality in its full and final perfection.  You have fought for it, you have dreamed of it, you have wished it, and I -- I am the man who has granted you your wish."

In making fun of utopianism, Aldous Huxley at least had the sense to place his cheerfully dehumanizing society in a clearly science-fictional far future.  Rand has written this is if it's all around the corner -- but really, it's generally much easier to dread and expect a "1984" around the corner than a "Brave New World."  In one funny (but unamusing) way, Rand didn't make her enemy militant and strident enough, instead insisting upon some sort of relativistic consensus-worshiping gooism.  What can I say, folks: it is not for nothing that portraying some sort of liberal-fascist nanny state is tough.

Coming up: how Galt granted the wish.

ADDENDUM: Actually, it's easy enough to figure out and quick enough to add here:

          "While you were dragging to your sacrificial altars the men of justice, of independence, of reason, of wealth, of self-esteem -- I beat you to it, I reached them first ...
          "We are on strike against self-immolation ... against the creed of unearned rewards and unrewarded duties ... against the dogma that the pursuit of one's happiness is evil ...  against the doctrine that life is guilt."

I have to remember those last words, because I think Robert Anton Wilson seriously misfired while trying to parody this book within his sprawling Illuminatus! trilogy.  But to continue:

          "There is a difference between our strike and all those you've practiced for centuries: our strike consists, not of making demands, but of granting them.  We are evil, according to your morality.  We have chosen not to harm you any longer.  We are useless, according to your economics.  We have chosen not to exploit you any longer.  We are dangerous and to be shackled, according to your politics.  We have chosen not to endanger you, nor to wear the shackles any longer.  We are only an illusion, according to your philosophy.  We have chosen not to blind you any longer and have left you free to face reality -- the reality you wanted, the world as you now see it, a world without mind."

As I believe I've said before, there is a classic passive-aggressive fantasizing behind all this, the whole dream of seeing people crying at your funeral and thinking "You'll be sorry when I'm gone."  Even so -- doesn't exactly represent what's happening now, does it?  Relatively speaking, John Galt could be a big help right now -- drawing the Koch brothers away from politics, convincing CEOs like Exxon's Rex Tillerson to pack up and leave.  But, eh, no such luck -- in fact, quite the opposite.  Funny how that works.

I still have trouble with the analogy.  Isn't Galt sort of saying "We broke out of prison, to relieve you of the burden of imprisoning us"?  Not sure law enforcement would ever buy that argument.

Anyhow, the preamble is pretty much winding down.  With the next post, I will finally start getting into what's supposed to be this great big wonderful revolutionary philosophy.  Now go pop more popcorn.   
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« Reply #95 on: September 15, 2011, 07:57:29 AM »
Somehow I couldn't bring myself to work on this on 9-11, so now onward.

Galt continues to rub in the distinctiveness of this strike by saying, his italics, "You have nothing to offer us.  We do not need you."  And at 9.2% unemployment that sentiment certainly is clear, the sons of bitches.  Anyhow, Galt claims that in all the history of wrangling over morality, that no one asked "Good? -- by what standard?"  and immediately follows up with "You wanted to know John Galt's identity.  I am the man who has asked that question" and goes on:

          "Yes, it is an age of moral crisis.  Yes, you are bearing punishment for your evil ... And if you wish to go on living, what you now need is not to return to morality -- you who have never known any -- but to discover it."

Galt goes on to complain that discussions of morality have been between "the mystical or the social," the religious and the secular altruists.  However,

          "Both sides agree that morality demands the surrender of your self-interest and of your mind, that the moral and the practical are opposites, that morality is not the province of reason, but the province of fatih and force.  Both sides agreed that no rational morality is possible, that there is no right or wrong in reason -- that in reason there is no reason to be moral.
          "Whatever else they fought about, it was against man's mind that all your moralists have stood united ... "

All this serves to remind me that someday I must sit down and get though Sam Harris's "The Moral Landscape," a study of this issue which looks far more promising than this Big Harangue.  Being religious, I fear that Harris and I might enter into a love-hate relationship -- that is to say, I would love him and he would hate me -- but at least this whole discussion would finally be getting somewhere.  Anyhow, having declared the philosophical status quo to be anti-mind (though, who in the real world ever said that as starkly and relentlessly as Rand loves to?), Galt goes on at length to point out that humans need to use their minds.  Well, duh!  And didn't Howard Roark already cover much this same ground?  Galt at last begins to wrap up the whole anti-mind claim:

          "A living entity that regarded its means of survival as evil, would not survive.  A plant that struggled to mangle its roots, a bird that fought to break its wings would not remain for long in the existence they affronted.  But the history of man has been a struggle to deny and to destroy his mind."

Galt goes on to point on that rationality is an act of choice and establishes "A code of values accepted by choice is a code of morality."  What is more, "Happiness is the successful state of life, pain is an agent of death."  Mmm, my oldest friend pretty much believes that all pain is evil -- and he's going to die a failure, much as I wish he wouldn't.  Anyway, we are to "Sweep aside those parasites of subsidized classrooms" and "Sweep aside those hatred-eaten mystics" to finally listen --

          "We, the men of the mind, [who] are now on strike against you in the name of a single axiom, which is the root of our moral code, just as the root of yours is to escape it -- "

Wow, after a build-up like that, you're just dying to hear that axiom, aren't you?  Well, I'm going to leave you in suspense a little bit longer.  But only a little.
    
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« Reply #96 on: September 18, 2011, 09:28:42 AM »
You know, now that I think of it -- couldn't Ayn Rand be interpreted to sound a little like Aleister Crowley?  All this business about unfettered human nature being the ultimate law?  Very different styles, obviously, but it doesn't seem any crazier than Andy Warhol reminding me of Rand.

Anyhow, you were just dying to learn that axiom.  In fact, not so long ago I was rather unfair about this harangue, I said "Only halfway through it does she declare 'Existence exists.'"  Well, it may have FELT like it was halfway through, but to be fair I see it's only six pages in -- and yes, that's the stunning axiom.  Shakin' in your boots already, aren't you?  Soon we get the closest thing to humility that Rand ever confessed:

          " ... Centuries ago, the man who was -- no matter what his errors -- the greatest of your philosophers has stated the formula declaring the concept of existence and the root of all knowledge: A is A.  A thing is itself ... "

The philosopher is of course Aristotle.  Galt goes on about how it falls to each individual to exercise the power of reason and thereby arrive at morality, and yet again I'm left wondering: who is she arguing with!?!?!?  It's a bizarre conceit, that dragging the reader though basics such as A is A will surely convert their political outlook.  Yet even on this presumably safe ground, Galt overreaches:

          " ... A process of reason is a process of constant choice in answer to the question: True or False? -- Right or Wrong?  Is a seed to be planted in soil in order to grow -- right or wrong?  Is a man's wound to be disinfected in order to save his life -- right or wrong?  Does the nature of atmospheric electricity permit it to be converted into kinetic power -- right or wrong? ... "

See, that last one doesn't make it.  Rand has fallen so hard for her own off-the-cuff science fiction that she claims it's a reality -- and that right there may be an instructive lesson for how this so-called "Objectivism" does indeed tend to fall apart and for highly subjective reasons.

Galt goes on to talk about how great it is to think.  I hope you don't mind if I take a little break.  This Big Harangue will be slow going, it could take a month or more, but we'll get through it ...

All right, I'll be busy all morning, so this is as far as I can stretch this post.  Let's see -- "Thinking is man's only basic virtue, from which all the others proceed."  I agree in principle with her, but I also have to say, I've seen gorillas act more humanly than some humans.  One also has to remember that she once asked William F. Buckley, Jr. something to the effect of "How can someone as smart as you believe in God?"  That was tricky old real life for her, presenting her with a puzzle she somehow could not predict or even guess as she wrote all this.

Now here's an interesting bit: "If I were to speak your kind of language, I would say that man's only moral commandment is: Thou shalt think."  I feel a bit spooked by it, because I've been murmuring "Thou shalt think" for years now -- but as a kind of secret commandment too long denied mainstream religion.  For here I am a believer, and yet to my mind religion, in its insistence on being a kind of tranquilizing animal husbandry of mass populations, despite its own intellectual tradition, desperately needs to own up to the crucial role of clear thought.  It's time that religion could actually LEAD in serious scientific speculation rather than always being dragged kicking and screaming whole centuries behind.  But I would pose that as a challenge to religion, not just a rebuke of it.  Where I part with Rand is the whole idea of needing only one commandment -- or ten, for that matter.  As I assess the human animal, I think we could probably use 77 commandments, and I may even write those some day.

After this she launches into a sequence of paragraphs, and I'm just going to give the headings:

          "Rationality is the recognition of the fact that existence exists ...
          "Independence is the recognition of the fact that yours is the responsibility of judgment ...
          "Integrity is the recognition of the fact that you can not fake your own consciousness ...
          "Honesty is the recognition of the fact that the unreal is unreal and can have no value ...
          "Justice is the recognition of the fact that you can not fake the character of men ...
          "Productiveness is your acceptance of morality ...
          "Pride is the recognition of the fact that you are your own highest value ...  "

Yes, and L is for the way you look at me, O is for the only one I see, V is very, very extraordinary, and -- oh ye gawdz, just about anyone can go on like this and say virtually nothing, certainly nothing new.

Seriously, Galt here is reminding me a little of the dearly departed Phil Hartman's Saturday Night Live character, I think it was called Unfrozen Cave Man or some such.  At one point Unfrozen Cave Man is running for political office and he says something like "Your world is scary and strange to me!  There are so many magical things that I do not know!  But there is one thing that Unfrozen Cave Man can feel certain of -- and that is to say NO to a capital gains tax!"  (Come to think of it, Hartman was a fucking prophet.)  Really, this is all feeling like that kind of lame pitch.

And I'm going to have to hang it up here, because after this it all gets even foggier.  But at least we've made it to page 1021.  Oh, and a final word: "Are you beginning to see who John Galt is?"  Yup -- and now that I'm beginning to see, I'm seeing even less whatever all the excitement was about.   
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« Reply #97 on: September 22, 2011, 02:02:28 PM »
Rand managed something sneaky just now, probably without even thinking about it -- to suggest a static universe in which Man is the sole motor.  Nature, the plant and animal kingdoms, weather, earthquakes -- none of these exist for her.  Which I find a little funny, because James Clavell is also an arch-conservative, but he always loved to pepper his sagas with storms and quakes, although perhaps as a way of underscoring their Asian flavor.  The goats killed by Project X were only stand-ins for humans, and a mention of plant life is only made in the name of agriculture.  My own view is more like that of Will Rogers, who opined that so much of our so-called ingenuity has been simply the ripping off of Nature.  The point here being, this may be why on the one hand she dreamed of a post-petroleum power source, but on the other hand could not imagine power marshaled from sunlight or wind or tides or the earth's own heat.  She specified STATIC electricity, something lying around presumably waiting for us to move it somehow.  With its insistence on Man as a solo motive force, the arch-conservative mind may be blind to considering any energy source other than some new fossil fuel.

We come now to a very fairy-tale take on existence, which is that we derive pleasure from the good and pain from the bad.  Listen, I hear hypoxia is VERY pleasant, but I think I'll pass on it.  Anyhow, the only true happiness is through trade.  (Yet again I ask: how many people visit this site accompanied by an accountant?)  Once more we have the Sermon on the Monetary's claim that trade is the only good form of social relation, and that anything else can only be backed up by threat of violence.  Golly, after that whole The Lone Randist scene with Francisco, you would think Rand would be more of a "I challenge you to a duel!" bent, but she loves to claim that her heroes are nearly pacifist and that only the looters are weapons-obsessed.  In her way she's trying to echo a sentiment of Isaac Asimov's from his Foundation Trilogy -- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent" -- but she hasn't a fraction of Asimov's integrity.

What's more, having insisted that A is A, Galt then proceeds to very strongly suggest that the corollary A is not Not-A is worthless:

          "You who are worshippers of the zero -- you have never discovered that achieving life is not the equivalent of avoiding death.  Joy is not 'the absence of pain,' intelligence is not 'the absence of stupidity,' light is not 'the absence of darkness' ... Building is not done by abstaining from demolition ... Existence is not a negation of negatives ... "

I actually happen to agree with this -- but can we kindly remember that these absences can be extremely useful and beneficial preconditions for the desired quality?  I'm not altogether sure why this is stuck in here, but if only accidentally, this section works.

Next, Galt tears into the concepts of damnation and original sin, and I'm just dying to know how many oh-so-Christians swallow this particular pill when they claim to be Randist.  This too is interesting in and of itself -- not persuasive to me, but perhaps far better taken up by someone like Sam Harris (see above) -- and yet is probably not at all essential to rallying her fans, so many of whom already bend over backwards to forgive her antitheism.

Galt goes on to talk about selfishness being declared Man's evil and sacrifice being declared Man's good -- and there I will leave it for right now.   And guess what, we're already a quarter of the way through this.  
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« Reply #98 on: September 24, 2011, 12:07:51 PM »
            "'Sacrifice' does not mean the rejection of the worthless, but of the precious ... If you own a bottle of milk and give it to your starving ch1ld, it is not a sacrifice; if you give it to your neighbor's ch1ld and let your own die, it is ... If the sensation of eating a cake is a value, why is it an immoral indulgence in your stomach, but a moral goal for you to achieve in the stomach of others? ... And if it is not moral for you to keep a value, why is it moral for others to accept it?  If you are selfless and virtuous when you give it, are they not selfish and vicious when they take it?  Does virtue consist of serving vice?  Is it the moral purpose of those who are good, self-immolation for the sake of those who are evil?"

I've condensed the above from over four pages but I don't think I've missed much -- the point being, don't be so quick to give to famine or disaster relief, those people are probably just evil and vicious anyway.  Rand here is reminding me a lot of the Scriptural take on the Pharisees, the whole idea that the unfortunate must surely already be cursed and that they must have had that curse coming to them -- and this of course also recalls the great train wreck from over four hundred pages ago.

          "Your code divides mankind into two castes and commands them to live by opposite rules: those who may desire anything and those who may desire nothing ... What standard determines your caste?  What passkey admits you to the moral elite?  The passkey is lack of value ... The man below is a source of your guilt, the man above is a source of your frustration ... Your teachers, the mystics of both schools, have reversed causality in their consciousness, then strive to reverse it in existence.  They take their emotions as a cause, and their mind as a passive effect.  They make their emotions their tool for perceiving reality.  They hold their desires as an irreducible primary, as a fact superseding all facts.  An honest man does not desire until he has identified the object of his desire.  He says: 'It is, therefore I want it.'  They say: 'I want it, therefore it is.'"

The allegedly fearless and gutsy Rand, having just ripped through American religion without ever once specifying Christ, now libels at endless length like this, but about whom?  Keynes?  Or, given the totality of everything he ever wrote, perhaps even Adam Smith himself?

And it goes on pretty much like this -- no, wait a minute: "Every dictator is a mystic, and every mystic is a potential dictator."  Say what?  I'm going to need some time to ponder that.

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All right, had a chance to think -- and Rand is wrong.  By her lights every DEMAGOGUE is a mystic, making a populist appeal or exploiting some promising philosophy, but to my mind a tyrant need only have his own Praetorian Guard, no mysticism need apply.  What's more, Rand's own words are so sweeping and quasi-religious in tone that I'm not sure she ducks her own mysticism charge.  (Fact is, I rather like mysticism, if only because it's that one realm within which all religions seem to agree.)

Come page 1047 we get to what Galt really wants to talk about, himself -- and for that I can wait out the better part of another week.
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« Reply #99 on: September 29, 2011, 11:56:26 AM »
A new thought strikes me -- if only because a lot of distraction can come in handy as one grinds through this.  In the very beginning, Peikoff quotes notes from Rand planning this novel as far back as 1945 and 1946, and it takes till 1957 to publish it.  Is it possible that Rand got this out just before truly dramatic events turned against her?  I'm thinking here about the civil rights movement, about Rosa Parks getting arrested in December 1955 and the subsequent boycott, and I even wonder if Shrugged came out just before the National Guard turned up in Little Rock.  Rand was imagining The Strike so hard and so long that I have to wonder if The Boycott, an abstention from unjust law by "mere" consumers, caught her by surprise.  But even more to the immediate point here, did she have any view of Mahatma Gandhi's effect on India, let alone the growing effect of Martin Luther King, Jr. in America?  For both were "mystics," her dismissive term for religious, and no doubt it would have been easy for her to size them up as mere populist demagogues, only slightly nobler Huey Longs or Jimmy Hoffas.

Anyhow, Galt says "You have been living on borrowed time -- and I am the man who has called in the loan."  Then he launches into his own compact biography and how he could not submit his brilliant (well, he and Rand say it is) invention to the sudden socialism of the Twentieth Century Motor Company.  He goes on to describe a world dying for lack of him.  Here this reminds me oddly of the Oedipus story -- not the sex part, but of Oedipus as king (really tyrant) learning that his land is dying because of some curse (obviously his own, because ... well, the censor here won't let me spell it right).  This here is a kind of neo-Oedipal curse upon the land, not due to sex with the wrong woman but belittlement of the right man.  (Trouble is, I never bought any of this even in "Excalibur.")

By the way, there is a most fleeting glimpse of BEA-worthy verbiage here: "Let your women take a look at a jungle female with her shriveled face and pendulous breasts, as she sits grinding meal in a bowl, hour after hour, century by century ... "  A rhetorical misstep, I'd say, as Galt would have way too many listeners going "Whoa, wait a minute -- what was that about pendulous breasts!?" 8)  (One has to wonder what Rand would make of post-1957 Western technology actually increasing such a pendulous nature.)  Then Galt freely insults some not-so-specified segment of his audience, first calling them "savages" and moving up to "grotesque little atavists."  Again I have fun imagining the audience: "Honey, this Galt guy just called us grotesque little WHAT!?"  And as with Rand first using Francisco's Sermon on the Monetary to say it's pointless to envy heirs, only to portray more heirs as more evil the further this novel progresses, this reference to "ancestral spirits" (the essence of atavism) is not so clean-cut, not with all the fantasizing over what a great man Nathaniel Taggart was.  Perhaps she meant "animists" (somehow mixing that in with Christianity), but I pretty much give up.

Rand via Galt keeps yammering against some straw man of her own invention -- but finally, the tone lightens a little and becomes slightly more hopeful come page 1052, and to that I will look forward.

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Huh, no sooner do I mention Gandhi than Rand seems to have had India on the brain.  She was thinking of it earlier with her "maharajah" swipe, and now she sounds like Sam Harris or Richard Dawkins on crack:

          "You, who dare to regard us as the moral inferiors of any mystic who claims supernatural visions -- you, who scramble for vultures for plundered pennies, yet honor a fortune-teller above a fortune-maker -- you, who scorn a businessman as ignoble, but esteem any posturing artist as exalted -- the root of your standards is that mystic miasma which comes from primordial swamps, that cult of death which pronounces a businessman by reason of the fact that he keeps you alive.  You, who claim that you long to rise above the crude concerns of the body, above the drudgery of serving mere physical needs -- who is enslaved by physical needs: the Hindu who labors from sunrise to sunset at the shafts of a hand-plow for a bowl of rice, or the American who is driving a tractor?  Who is the conqueror of physical reality: the man who sleeps on a bed of nails or the man who sleeps on an inner-spring mattress?  Which is the monument to the triumph of the human spirit over matter: the germ-eaten hovels on the shorelines of the Ganges or the Atlantic skyline of New York?"

You have to wonder what Rand might make of India's -- or China's, for that matter -- current lurch towards success.  Would it grate against her America First rhetoric, or would she chalk it up to her own evangelism?  In any event, she rams up against a question: How can India be successful and still be largely Hindu?

Anyhow, Galt has been raging and insulting for 43 pages now -- a little bit to his credit, he will at least soon say "The fence you have been straddling for two hours -- while hearing my words and seeking to escape them," an open confession to how freakin' long this is.  But now, at last, he says "But to those of you who still retain a remnant of the dignity and will to choose one's life, I am offering the chance to make a choice."  That choice, in essence: recognize that (non-egoist!) morality is a drag.

I forget the exact wording, but near the end of "The Devil's Advocate" Al Pacino asks Keanu Reeves "Who are you carrying all those heavy bricks around for?", making fun of Reeves' conscience.  Pacino, as the Devil, calls God "an absentee landlord" and says "I swear, for His own sick amusement" that Man is forever split between his instincts and God's code.  "Advocate" is not that great a movie, too cruel in its telling to get away with claiming to be just a dark comedy at its end -- but I'm struck by the passing resemblance of Pacino's "John Milton" to John Galt ... the problem being, Pacino at least has style.

Anyhow, Galt seems to be practicing the "break 'em down then build 'em up" technique of social engineers ranging from drill sergeants to Werner Eckhard.  He asks "Do you wonder why you live without dignity, love without fire and die without resistance?"  (Unless, I assume, you're a union member, then you should just shut up.)  And now, having ripped into an imagined enemy, he then really rips into the undecided: "There are two sides to every issue: one is right and one is wrong, but the middle is always evil."  Gee, John, at this rate is there anyone going to be LEFT at the end of this speech who you ever wanted to reach to begin with?  At any rate, by going on long enough he occasionally makes marginal sense, as in "To fear to face an issue is to believe that the worst is true."  Hmmm -- but the far right is already believing the worst to be true, golly, could it be because they fear to face an issue?  I just sayin'.

At long last, after 48 pages, Galt's tone turns to one of helpfulness -- but that radical gear shift, I'm going to hold off on till my next post.
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« Reply #100 on: October 01, 2011, 04:28:43 AM »
"The self you have betrayed is your mind ... "  See, right here is where I think Rand seriously messes up, because whether she likes it or not she's using Freudian terminology, and I've been of the opinion that Freud got some things wrong, or at least incomplete.  (Hey, I can take on Rand, why not Freud too -- even though I accord Freud far more credit, for actually having conducted research and trying to be of real and actual help to people and thrashing out his concepts.)

Freud said that we have ego, a sense of self, id ("Monsters from the id!"), a repository of impulsive desires (hence this Archive), and superego, our acceptance of social morality and our self-image within that, generally charged with trying to keep the id in check.  (There was once an underground comic called "Id" which near-inevitably featured a mock superhero in cape and tights boldly proclaiming himself to be "SUPEREGO!")  In these terms, I'm guessing that Rand is saying that ego and money hath power to simultaneously throw off the id (heh, good luck with that) and abolish the superego, certainly to the extent that it is represented by both church and rule of law.  All of us should in short tune in to an All Ego All the Time radio station and leave the dial nailed there.  Yet this constant insistence on "ego," "self," and especially "mind" all being perfectly and absolutely synonymous is crap.  She claims to love and champion men of vision -- well, let me tell you something, men of vision are generally not these absurd lantern-jawed Donald Trumps of hers, they tend to be very gentle and retiring and I think their outlook has a lot to do with their power.  Newton was a late bloomer, working privately and quietly before even deigning to mention "Oh, by the way, I invented calculus" before going on to write the Principia, and he resented his run-ins with the far more Rand-like Robert Hooke.  Copernicus nearly did not mention his own heliocentric model at all.  Darwin, no matter what a creationist tells you, once wanted to be a priest, and even as his work led him towards evolution he himself fretted over how this fitted within what he still considered to be a God-made universe.  Rand is rather typically American in that she hates science but loves technology.  For her scientists, true scientists, don't even exist.  For her there was no true civilization until Rockefeller and Carnegie and Edison and Ford came along, and she calls them the be-all end-all of human excellence.

But let's back up, and sort out this whole ego/self/mind mush.  I am so very thankful that what I consider the totality of my intellect is NOT all ego.  But I think Freud also missed some things.  If I attempt my own map of the mind, it looks something like this:

     Superego

Id   Ego          Legend

      Inferego

Imagine, by the way, an arrow moving forward, left to right, from id through to legend, with superego and my inferego as the shoulders of that road.  We begin with the impulses of the id -- Rand can dismiss and insult them as some kind of mere vacuum all she wants, but they're not -- and then move on to some sense of ourselves.  Actually, any honest self-appraisal probably places any sense of "self" most with what I call inferego, a recognition of one's self as a work in progress that requires steady improvement.  With any luck, we rise up from inferego and achieve our best sense of ego, we become "self-actualized" (to use someone else's term).  We can recognize people who have this healthier ego going for them: they have a natural easy sense of themselves, they act and work with a seemingly effortless grace and an automatic wisdom.  Superego is still there, reminding us of the social code of the immediate historical moment, and while it can not and should not dictate us, that too can be of some use.  We progress from impulsive id to graceful ego as we are drawn towards what I call "legend," meant not so much as "myth" as "how to read a map."  A sense of legend is found in Thomas Harris's novel "The Silence of the Lambs" (sadly rushed over in the movie) when Clarice figures out why the hell Buffalo Bill is cutting diamond shapes from the skin of his victims.  Harris takes a moment to talk to us directly and remark on the joy of deduction and how we are born to it.  I would sum it up myself as the Eureka moment.  It's why we love puzzles and mysteries, and it's what drives innovation.  Vanity can't do that, self-adoration can't even be bothered, it won't even budge.  In his rush to all too typically account for humanity within a kind of animal husbandry of mass populations, Freud did not seem to consider that what we call "genius" may well be the birthright of us all.

But we now have to leave all that, as we approach the last hundred pages of this book.  Galt's speech finally begins to take on a tone of gentle instruction, and here I'll just list the proverbs which turn up as paragraph headings: "Do not say that you're afraid to trust your mind because you know so little."  (Boy, I guess Glenn Beck really ate that one up.)  "Accept the fact that the achievement of your happiness is the only moral purpose of your life ... "  (Eh, but that really, really depends on the specific nature of your happiness.)  What else ... oh, don't help anyone if it puts you out and causes you to abandon your own selfish pleasure.  How, I wonder, are certain Randists going to square this with an "Oh, the churches can take care of everything" attitude?

These would-be proverbs soon ram up against one hell of a claim -- but give me a minute first.

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Well, that's funny -- I'm reading back and forth like crazy and I don't see the claim.  It may yet turn up.  But in the meantime we get another bit of autobio:

          "We -- whom you are now calling, but who will not answer any longer -- we had lived among you, but you failed to know us ... You failed to recognize the motor I invented ... "

Yikes, again with this passive-aggressive "You're sorry now I'm gone" fantasy.  Yeah, it sucks that your motor wasn't acknowledged, you know who else is like that -- Robert Goddard, but I like his story better.

He goes on about himself and d'Anconia and Danneskjold, then eventually discusses politics and reaches this conclusion:

          " ... The only proper functions of government are: the police, to protect you from criminals; the army, to protect you from foreign invaders; and the courts, to protect your property and contracts from breach or fraud ... "

So if the private sector ever acts untrustworthy or unreliable, that's just tough.  Oh, and that army can probably be privatized into mercenaries, and you should own your own gun instead of counting on police.

One thing is striking me.  Over and over, Galt has spontaneously convinced one industrialist after another to drop everything and hang out in Galt's Gulch -- but by what rhetorical power?  Are we asked to believe that he submitted every last one of them to this harangue?  Francisco already wrangled with Dagny and Hank at great length about their need to leave, and I'll be damned if I can detect how Galt is supposed to be any better a speaker than Francisco.

The last two pages manage to invoke a rousing tone, and we end, as if we could not have guessed by now, with "I swear -- by my life and my love of it -- that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."

And that, folks, is pretty much it.  I've glossed over some of this -- honestly, I had to, and you'll still have to read that yourselves, I'll not be your Cliff Notes.  Yet this is the Big Harangue, the climax, the great screeching change of course in the journey of history -- and it begs a zillion specifics.  Why doesn't Rand ever mention Communism, or even the New Deal?  This is relentlessly abstract proverb-making, there's very little way to factually -- objectively -- corroborate a single claim.

So that is it, and now at last this gets to be a little more storyful once more, and we've only a hundred pages left.  Next stop: the 28th chapter.
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« Reply #101 on: October 02, 2011, 08:18:45 AM »
Ever notice that there is no particularly hefty body of literature about life in Heaven?  Why do you suppose that is?  After all, so many of us profess to believe in God and the hereafter, and when someone dies it is standard for one of us to say "He or she is in a better place now."  Heaven is supposed to be the climax of our existence, our supreme reward.  In terms of sheer time, it may be millions of times longer than our one petty mortal lifespan (barring reincarnation).  And yet, very little about it.  Sylvia Browne gives it a shot, Mitch Albom gives it a shot, we hear about one kid -- what was his last name, Burpus? -- having a vision, and that's about it.  That Robin Williams movie "What Dreams May Come" was worthless to me; I think I like better the first few minutes of Alan Rudolph's "Made in Heaven," that comes closest to how I feel it ought to be.  Eastwood tries it and just leaves us with a great big blurry waiting room without even any chairs.

Yeah, I know, some of the greats have taken on Heaven -- but how is it that when we think of Dante we almost always think of "Inferno" and not "Paradisio," and when we think of Milton we think of "Paradise Lost" and barely at all "Paradise Restored"?  (Or perhaps "Regained" -- see, I even need to check that.)  And another point: can anyone name one single book about Adam and Eve continuing to live in innocence and obedience in Eden?  C.S. Lewis may have managed to cheat a little, by recasting the Eden story on his fantastical version of Venus in "Perelandra," but otherwise I can't think of one.  P.J. O'Rourke -- a comic I rarely agree much with -- pointed out what a challenging story it would be to get excited about staying in Eden, though of course he brought it up only to suggest that eternal Eden is only what liberals stupidly want.  (Gee, P.J., if that's true, and we liberals are so media-happy, you would think we'd've written that book or even made that movie by now, wouldn't you say?)  Lancelot speculates on being a perfect Adam in a lyric in "Camelot" -- but hey, it's Lancelot, so forget THAT.

Here is where I share some of Rand's skepticism (but long before it turns to antipathy) towards religion -- that by all rights there should be Heaven and Eden books, much like, say, there are so many other thriving subgenres, such as "supernatural detective."  (Come to think of it, that may be the only way to do it -- to have a Heaven where things can go a bit wrong, and a detective who settles that.  I can see the blurb now: "Angels aren't always angels."  But I digress.)  But where this comes back to bite her is in the structure of Shrugged.  For Rand has taken special pains to preach against merely negating a negative -- and I happen to agree with her on that point -- and yet, for all its length, that's all that this book is about.  Galt's Gulch left me no persuasive sense of "Wow, the whole world needs to be like this!", and Galt's Gulch is supposed to be a haven of utopia, a kind of inverted Shangri-La.  Yet this book is relentlessly about how horrible Lillian Rearden is, or what a bizarre stitched-together Frankenstein creature James Taggart is.  I think I've said it before and I say it again: Rand is like Marx, voluminous in critique (but not nearly as good), but downright flip about providing any solution.  Does she really want her world, or simply the destruction of this one?

Such thoughts cross my mind as we are at last free of the Big Harangue and we return to the far more lively and entertaining bickering of Galt's enemies.  Chapter 28 kicks off with Mr. Thompson asking "It wasn't real, was it?"  A whole page of the horribles being in shock goes by before we can trust the sheer emotionalism of James Taggart to be moved to try to speak more than six words at a time:

          "We don't have to believe it! ... Nobody's ever said it before!  It's just one man!  We don't have to believe it!"
          "Take it easy," said Mr. Thompson.
          "Why is he so sure he's right?  Who is he to go against the whole world, against everything ever said for centuries and centuries?  Who is he to know?  Nobody can be sure!  Nobody can know what's right!  There isn't any right!"

I believe right here is where we begin to glimpse the appeal of this book, for this section in and of itself, magically excised from this novel and appreciated all by itself, is great fun.  What is more, it even finally begins to resonate with reality.  I was writing just a little while ago about the great scientists, and this is how it is.  Newton, Copernicus, Darwin, Einstein -- they all began as one man, reaching a conclusion, stating a proof.  This also appeals greatly to the egos of impressionable adolescents.  Maybe the world is wrong.  Maybe I'm right.  And indeed, maybe for once you are.  Eh, but Rand doesn't know shit about science, so that's where it all kinda falls apart.  But to continue, the horribles argue over whether to maintain silence or resume normal broadcasts, and then it somehow falls to the sadly ever-ill-defined  Eugene Lawson to scream:

          "It's horrible!  It's immoral!  It's selfish, heartless, ruthless!  It's the most vicious speech ever made!  It ... it will make people demand to be happy!"

Yeah, I bet it made people demand to be happy -- happy it was finally over.  Yet this too is a telling little moment, because for one kind of person the industrialists are at least grinding out all the goodies, and there are always things out there on the horizon -- taxes, disasters, threats of war, moral arguments, changing attitudes -- which seem to endanger one's personal bubble of satisfaction.  In such a world, one may feel moved to little more than the morality of an infant -- a couple of times this book asserts that children already understand Rand, before society brainwashes them -- and retort "Uncomfortable things bad, Daddy Warbucks good!"

The horribles decide that the religious, the workingmen, and the women won't go for the speech -- and here's where Rand got one thing eerily right, because I do think it has caught the Left off guard that religion, once a bastion of civil rights, and many workers and a lot of women have been picked up by the Right.  The Left may have figured "Eh, we've got them in our pocket" -- always a dangerous assumption in a world full of propaganda.  There is one amusing exchange:

          "He's no friend of anybody," said Wesley Mouch, recapturing a shade of confidence at the sudden realization, "except maybe of big business."
          "No!" cried Mr. Mowen in terror.  "No!  Don't accuse us!  Don't say it!  I won't have you say it!"
          "What?"
          "That ... that ... that anybody is a friend of business!"

Admit it, you laughed.  Sometimes a joke lies more in its structure than its logic.  And speaking of jokes, guess which one character singlehandedly sparks this entire tirade back to recognizable life:

          "In the first place," said Dr. Ferris, encouraged, "people can't think.  In the second place, they don't want to."
          "In the third place," said Fred Kinnan, "they don't want to starve.  And what do you propose to do about that?"
          It was as if he had pronounced the question which all of the preceding utterances had been intended to stave off ...
          "Well?" said Mr. Thompson at last, raising his eyes reluctantly to Fred Kinnan.  "What do you think we ought to do?"
          "Who, me?" chuckled Kinnan.  "I don't run this show."

How did Rand ever dare to create Fred Kinnan?  How much more would I enjoy a novel about Fred Kinnan than a novel about John Galt?  In my mind he's played by William Frawley, Fred Mertz from "I Love Lucy," eating up his role the way he did in "Miracle on 34th Street."

Dagny gets a whole page to declare "Give it up" (taxes and regulation, I'm guessing???) before Mr. Thompson speaks up and assures Dagny that her input is appreciated, or some such placation.  She leaves, but not without a cue to the obligingly silent Eddie Willers: "She jerked her head, indicating the door; he followed her obediently."  Oh yeah, what an inviting example of how not to live for the sake of another person -- and Eddie, I still wish you and Cherryl Brooks could have gotten it on, Cherryl might still be alive and mooning after Dagny is going to be the death of you.  Sweet Jesus, but I really hate Rand on this point.  And now Dr. Robert Stadler -- as with so many of these people, I barely had any real sense of him, and so I barely care what he has to say anyway -- is obliged to go completely nutzoid:

          "You must kill him."
          It was the fact that Dr. Stadler had not cried it, but had said it in a flat, cold, suddenly and fully conscious voice, that brought a chill moment of silence as the whole room's answer.
          "You must find him," said Dr. Stadler, his voice cracking and rising once more.  "You must leave no stone unturned till you find and destroy him!  If he lives, he'll destroy us all!  If he lives, we can't!"
          "How am I to find him?" said Mr. Thompson, speaking slowly and carefully.
          "I ... I can tell you.  I can give you a lead.  Watch that Taggart woman.  Set your men to watch every move she makes.  She'll lead you to him, sooner or later."
          "How do you know that?"
          "Isn't it obvious?  Isn't it sheer chance that she hasn't deserted you long ago?  Don't you have the wits to see that she's one of his kind?"  He did not state what kind.
          "Yeah," said Mr. Thompson thoughtfully, "yeah, that's true."  He jerked his head up with a smile of satisfaction.  "The professor's got something there.  Put a tail on Miss Taggart," he ordered, snapping his fingers at Mouch.  "Have her tailed day and night.  We've got to find him."
          "Yes, sir," said Mouch blankly.
          "And when you find him," Dr. Stadler asked tensely, "you'll kill him?"
          "Kill him, you damn fool?  We need him!" cried Mr. Thompson ... "What are you all gaping at?  It's simple.  Whoever he is, he's a man of action.  Besides, he's got a pressure group: he's got all the men of brains.  He knows what to do.  We'll find him and he'll tell us.  He'll tell us what to do.  He'll make things work.  He'll pull us out of the hole."
          "Us, Mr. Thompson?" [asked Mouch.]
          "Sure.  Never mind your theories.  We'll make a deal with him."
          "With him?"
          "Sure.  Oh, we'll have to compromise, we'll have to make a few concessions to big business, and the welfare boys won't like it, but what the hell! -- do you know any other way out?"
          "But his ideas -- "
          "Who cares about ideas?"
          "Mr. Thompson," said Mouch, choking, "I ... I'm afraid he's a man who's not open to a deal."
          "There's no such thing," said Mr. Thompson.

And now at last you may begin to glimpse why I've been analyzing this book for over a year now -- because as dopey as it is, it is perhaps far more immediately relevant than we ever dared realize.  To me there is little doubt that the Tea Party imagines itself in the role of Galt, and that Obama is Mr. Thompson -- and, of course, with only ninety-odd pages left, Mr. Thompson's utter defeat is a foregone conclusion.

You know, I've written and read enough porn to recognize a sexual subtext.  There is, after all, so much violent passion beating inside this dreadfully dry novel that some tie-in with sex is nearly inevitable.  For here we have Stadler, and to my mind he is sounding very much like a cuckolded husband in some tale calculated to scratch our sadistic itch.  For here's Dagny, and Dagny goes around freely fucking anyone she deems a Man of the Mind, and then we have Stadler, and while he's never shown much desire for Dagny, it would be easy to imagine him as jealous.  She fucked all those other Men of the Mind -- so why not me!?  I have all the status, I have all the acclaim -- she must fuck me, I am entitled to her!  But Dagny won't give him the time of day.  Wild with rage, he then wants Dagny's every move to be watched and to have his cuckolder dead, dead, dead -- but in keeping with the underlying sadism of the tale, his torture is dragged out, the world assures him, Oh no, if anything we will lionize your cuckolder.

I'm usually not big on Freud, but oh!  If Freud could have analyzed Rand!

And we're back to Dagny and the whole world running even further down -- so that will be it till next weekend.  With any luck, I can hand you Rand's triumphant utopian ending by Halloween.  A greater horror, I can scarcely imagine      
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Re: Atlas Shrank
« Reply #102 on: October 06, 2011, 06:53:50 AM »
No time right now for a proper critical post, but I am very struck by the passing of Steve Jobs and how wildly different his existence was from that of, say, Henry Rearden.  I was watching MSNBC last night, mainly getting my Maddow fix, and one might suppose that between Microsoft territoriality and political orthodoxy that they would be forcibly obliged to let slip a little Fox-News-style snideness.  Nothing doing.  Maddow showed footage of Jobs' speech at the commencement of Stanford's class of 2005, and I can not recommend it highly enough.  According to Shrugged, MSNBC would have been forced to be sneering and envious and fretting over the degree of Jobs' philanthropy.  Far from that, Jobs was called a 21st Century Edison.  (But then, the Right keeps getting the majority of the modern Left utterly wrong; even at that Occupy Wall Street rally, noted by Fox as "human debris" and somehow simultaneously managing to be "just guys looking for a date" and some crafty Obama subterfuge, one protester identified himself as an entrepreneurial capitalist.)

But even more to the point, I just don't see Rand prophesying Jobs.  Here was a man who was inspired by, of all things, something as allegedly hippy-dippy as the Whole Earth Catalog, which he described as a thirty-years-early attempt to create Google.  Jobs was no lantern-jawed Rearden or Galt, for which I am of course thankful.  Really, the world of Shrugged is in so many ways so dull and sterile compared to reality, and a lot of the blame for that has to be placed squarely at the doorstep of its philosophy.

PS: what the hey, I'll even squeeze in some critiquing after all.  What follows after Mr. Thompson says "There's no such thing," however, is just three pages of Dagny bringing poor ever-astonished Eddie Willers up to speed on where Galt may be and her intending not to vanish but to keep the trains running.

Beyond this point, it becomes rather weirdly piecemeal and surreal.  I'll need a whole new day to wrap my head around the next six pages -- but at least this thing now only has ninety pages left to it.
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« Reply #103 on: October 09, 2011, 03:45:30 AM »
I'd better keep slogging ahead, but I'm sad to say that the sludginess of the Harangue now carries over a bit into the storytelling.  Where once Rand would take twenty pages to d-r-a-g o-u-t a fairly simple discussion, now she's aiming for pithy panorama but really just creating a bog of puzzles.  Hack journalist Chick Morrison keeps writing "People seem to be silent," but ah, apparently the Harangue proved to be some sort of subliminal call to arms after all.  Arson hits a farm or a factory and no one is surprised.  Ayn, guess what -- this has ALWAYS been the story of a lot of arson, I think of the Thayer David character in "Save the Tiger."  But check this out --

          " ... a speaker at a political meeting in Cleveland was beaten up and had to escape by scurrying down dark alleys.  His silent audience had come to sudden life when he had shouted that the cause of all their troubles was their selfish concern with their own troubles."

Again, the inverted prophesying of Rand: it's Ohio (home of the Patrick Henry University no less!), and we see action that matches the violence of certain Tea Party rhetoric -- but the issue is all wrong, as I somehow doubt that Rand would have been that down on John Kasich.

We proceed with three incidents -- but frankly, from out of a nation of of now over three hundred million, there's no real indication of how unusual they're supposed to be.  But at least Chick Morrison is stoned (!!!) by his audience at the first stop of a whistle-stop tour of his.  More intriguing is when the Strike reaches down to the "better men" found throughout America -- though at this point, acting on their own rather than Galt's individual invitation, where do they go?  For that matter, why do I suspect that Rand was NOT foreseeing an exodus of politicians in Michigan?  Another intriguing passage:

          " ... As some men were escaping with their bodies into the underground of uninhabited regions, so others could only save their souls and escaping into the underground of their minds -- and no power on earth could tell whether their blankly indifferent eyes were shutters protecting hidden treasures at the bottom of shafts no longer to be mined, or were merely gaping holes of the parasite's emptiness never to be filled."

Yes, no power on earth -- but don't worry, because Hank Rearden just KNOWS who to give loans to.  In any event, a cry goes out of "Give us men!"  White collar positions everywhere go unfilled.  (Really?  Not even for better pay and advancement from a lower class?  Because Rand just got done describing a shoe factory -- ah, now there's a bit of nostalgia, and "socialism" did not make it so -- in Massachusetts where the workers came in and made shoes regardless of all their supervisors having vanished.  Kind of an ironic admission for Rand to make, I'd say.)  Anyhow, at last we get "explosions of oil refineries, the crashes of defective airplanes, the break-outs of blast furnaces, the wrecks of colliding trains ... "  So remember, everyone, it is REGULATION that is bad and yet SUPERVISION which is our lifeblood.  Supervise, wonderful; regulate, evil.  Got that?

          "Don't despair!  Don't give up!" said official broadcasts on December 15, and on every day thereafter.  "We will reach an agreement with John Galt.  We will get him to lead us.  He will solve all our problems.  He will make things work.  Don't give up!  We will get John Galt!"

Now THAT could have been a pithy book title: GET GALT.  (Or perhaps even, as a variation on a recent ad campaign for milk: GOT GALT?)

Really, this book is suddenly feeling as unfocused as some artist that Richard Halley really hates.  I'll see if I can grind through another three pages before I call this a weekend.

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If anyone doubts how self-absorbed Rand can be, just look at pages 1081 through 1083.  I've seen this before.  It happens in a peculiar new Tor paperback called "Genesis" by one Ken Shufeldt, a modern-day space opera so horrible that we barely get any sense at all of the Earth being destroyed, let alone a starship Ark getting built.  Similar, but more deliberately so, is Norman Spinrad's "The Iron Dream," a grimly fun speculation into Adolf Hitler becoming first a science fiction illustrator and then later trying his hand at a novel.  As with Shufeldt's "Genesis," in the course of the book vast industrialization magically appears within mere pages whenever the hero needs it.  There's no preparation, it's all a sudden fact because the author says so, and was so otherwise distracted that he, or she, couldn't be bothered to prepare.

For now we have come nearly eleven hundred pages through this book, this grand tribute to elephantine inefficiency of storytelling, and now after so much of Rearden's stupid family or Dagny's stupid brother or Dagny's stupid sex life, Rand permits herself only these lightning-quick glimpses of the true and full impact of her Strike upon society.  We are told "Ragged people listened to the offers of material comforts and turned away with lethargic indifference, as if they had lost the concept of 'Value.'"  Say what!?!?  It's bad enough Rand has to insist her heroes are such supergeniuses, but what sort of hydrocephalic behavior is she honestly expecting the rest of humanity to indulge in?

Anyhow, the search goes on for John Galt:

          "There's a  John Galt who's a professor of ornithology, eighty years old -- there's a retired greengrocer with a wife and nine children -- there's an unskilled railroad worker who's held the same job for twelve years -- and other such trash."

At least Rand let's us have a little har-har there.  But then inflation hits, and violence breaks out, and "People's Managers" of nationalized mills are repelled -- all in little more than one page.

This book had a plan at first, but it isn't planned now.  It was vented.

As if Rand can't will herself to take in a panoramic view of society for much more than a single page, we'll be coming right back to Dagny again -- and that is where I will pick up next time.      
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Re: Atlas Shrank
« Reply #104 on: October 11, 2011, 11:45:30 PM »
I've been away from the Net for quite some time, and then read through all the posts I'd missed here, had a bunch of thoughts that I'd composed into what I thought was an insightful commentary, completely failed to write them down, had more computer issues, came back, saw that you'd continued, and so I'm hoping to reconstruct some pieces of what I wanted to say because your efforts have been very intellectually stimulating (in a way I'm fairly confident Rand's actual work isn't).  I'm going to extrapolate what I think I'd intended to say from this piece of your comment, because I actually feel like a lot of what Rand is doing somehow resonates from this:

So remember, everyone, it is REGULATION that is bad and yet SUPERVISION which is our lifeblood.  Supervise, wonderful; regulate, evil.  Got that?

I'm thinking that the idea of "supervise" (within Rand's interpretation) involves a visual of someone standing around, sipping coffee, and criticially judging other people's efforts, while "regulation" involves someone actually making those efforts to hold ideas or products to some kind of actual standard.  For some reason, I'm reminded of Asimov's Foundation novel, where early on the newly-isolated Foundation receives an Imperial envoy in the hopes that he will guarantee them some protection against the breakaway nations on the Galactic Rim.  One of the Foundation leaders notes that the envoy's idea of intellectual progress is to read the work done by others, weigh the various merits of them against each other, and decide for oneself which is more valid.  Which frankly is intellectually lazy since it discourages independent investigations leading to greater scientific understanding, and a symptom of the Imperial stagnation.  Anyway, that's the impression I get when Rand refers to "supervision" in this context, though it seems she considers it admirable.

I think it might be a result of the "A is A" philosophy, which in a way kind of seems to be woven throughout the novel.  You've mentioned (I believe) several times that we're told how great (or how reprehensible) certain characters are, and in many cases (notably for the "great" ones, like those in Galt's Gulch) there doesn't seem to be any evidence to back that up.  Well, A is A: these people are great, so regardless of how much or how little we see of them, or despite any evidence of their actions, they are great because being great is simply inherent to their being.  That...sounded less redundant in my head, sorry.  I'm also going to apologize for not scrolling back to name-check the characters, but as an example: the great actress in the Gulch turned down roles that she could have elevated (thereby demonstrating her greatness) because she's inherently a great actress, and thus need not validate that impression if she doesn't want to.

This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me; I work in physics, so for me "objective reality" means "something everyone can independently observe evidence of, or reason out, regardless of personal feelings".  So I'm fine with "A is A", but you're on shaky ground if there's zero evidence (or if it cannot be logically demonstrated) that a thing actually is "A" in the first place.  We're told that these people in the Gulch are excellent in their respective fields, and that may certainly have been true at some point prior to the time we're introduced to them in the story, but I get the impression that there's no demonstration of that in their actions in the Gulch (or in the decision made to go to the Gulch in the first place), thereby making that presumption of being "A" (being at the pinnacle of human achievement, or whatever) exist mainly in their own minds, and not a part of "objective reality".  But it seems like Rand's Objectivism (or at least, what's presented in this book) doesn't consider the independent/external ("everyone") qualities I mentioned: all that's required for someone or something to have the quality of "A" is for JUST ONE PERSON to ascribe that thing the quality of "A".  And in my book, that puts it much closer to Faith than reality.  Not that I have a problem with Faith, but Faith is a tenet that can exist without any logical reason or observable evidence--fine for a single person or even collections of like-minded people, but not a basis for objective reality.  Maybe I'm not all that clear on Rand's Objectivism, but I think this illustrates the problem I see with it as represented in this book...it doesn't really seem objective at all!

Bringing it back up to the Harangue and the fallout, I get another impression from Rand's work, that also doesn't sit well with me as a physicist--and one who's done some instruction on that subject.  In that context (because I don't really know how else to express it), it seems like Rand has set up Galt as the knowledgeable teacher (or rather, "supervisor"), who has all the answers and knows all the solutions so that he's in a position to judge and criticize; and A is A, so he's totally right even if he runs off to his secluded Gulch, doesn't lift a finger to implement any of them, or even if there is no indication of what his world-correcting course of action would be (though I may have missed it between all the gaps in my reading/leaving/returning, and if so I apologize).  But it's actually worse than that, because not only does Galt have the answers, but he'll only accept a particular method for finding the solution (in the context of him as instructor).  And as a physics instructor, this really irritates me, because there are several means by which one can objectively find a solution to a problem--invoking conceptual principles is equally valid as utilizing the mechanics of various mathematical models.  In other words, when treating reality objectively, there is no "correct" means of approach, even though there will be only one result.  But it seems like Galt is haranguing the audience about how this Objectivist approach is somehow the only acceptable persepective to arrive at any result, and it further seems like Rand has attempted to construct the rest of the book's action to convince the readers that this is true (by showing that all the other methods are disastrous in some way).  Again, this is just the impression that I'm getting of Rand's Objectivism, but it still doesn't seem very objective to me.

Anyway, that last bit again sort of ties back to the supervision/regulation bit from earlier: Galt's a supervisor who's always right and the rest of the world fails because the regulations that have been implemented (the methods for working out solutions) are not according to his persepective.  Presumably the Big Harangue was him explaining the "correct" method for approaching the solution, but again as an instructor this doesn't sit well with me...not that using such a method would be wrong, but the Harangue seems to assert that no other means could possibly be right.

Hm...I think that just about covers it.  Hopefully I wasn't too rambling or redundant, but I can never tell when I'm writing stuff like this.  I also hope it's a useful perspective for this discussion!
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