Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2016, 06:10:10 PM »
29.7 death citizens by shooting weapons per million citizens in the US.
0.7 (UK and Wales - one of the most restrictive weapon laws in Europe) - 7.7 (Switzerland - the most liberal weapon law in europe) death citizens by shooting weapons per million citizen in Europe.

The reason for the difference is self-explanatory.
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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2017, 10:07:07 AM »
Genuine questions here, as I don’t know the answer.

What are the annual car inspections rules in your country?
 
I’ve just taken my car in for its annual inspection and it has failed. Not uncommon for an older car as we have some pretty strict standards here in the UK I feel.

One issue it failed on was headlight alignment.  I’ve even had a car fail on uncoiled seatbelts.  These are pretty minor, but enough for a fail.  There were other issues like tires and brake pipes, so it wasn’t all the minor stuff.  I will get it all fixed next week and have to resubmit the car.

I just wondered how it was where you live.

Another thing that I was wondering...

I changed my gas and electricity supplier recently – just like you would phone or broadband suppliers.  My current suppler had put up prices so I ditched them and went for somewhere else.

The switch went through within a few weeks; all I had to do was give a meter reading to the new supplier.  I do like competition in the market.
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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2017, 08:21:59 PM »
Some states do have inspections for cars..I live in Michigan were there are no inspections ... I am semi-retired and work 3 days a week in a tire shop... We see some of the most horrible rusted out hunks of junk sometime... At times we have to turn the customer away as there undercarrages are so rusted we cannot safely lift the car..   

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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2017, 02:49:15 AM »
We see some of the most horrible rusted out hunks of junk sometime...
Rust near any body seams is an instant fail for us here. As long as it isn't structural, I'd be ok with some rust, but I've had a number of cars fail because there was rust - and we are talking pretty minor.  This time my car has failed on rust on one or two of the brake pipes, so they'll have to be changed.

The only problem with the system we have here in the UK for car inspections is - the garages that do the inspections also do the work.  You can see a conflict of interests there right away.  Mind you, you can take the car away and do the work yourself - I do that often - but most people don't.

The mechanics that do the tests are government certified - but employed by the private garage.  It is less well know here that you can take your car to the local council depot, where they work on the council fleet and have the test done there. But they won't do any repairs.

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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2017, 06:39:43 AM »
One is on the left side of the map and the other is on the right side.
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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2017, 10:37:14 AM »
There are also significant differences between the UK and Europe, currency, what side of the road we drive on, plug type for electrical sockets etc. 

Of course here in Scotland our rather inept Government is always trying to make out how much more we have in common with Europe than the rest of the UK, which is nonsense of course. It is just their way of trying to highlight differences rather than similarities in order to push through another referendum that the majority of Scottish people do not want anyway.

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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2017, 12:13:02 PM »
There are also significant differences between the UK and Europe, currency, what side of the road we drive on, plug type for electrical sockets etc. 

Of course here in Scotland our rather inept Government is always trying to make out how much more we have in common with Europe than the rest of the UK, which is nonsense of course. It is just their way of trying to highlight differences rather than similarities in order to push through another referendum that the majority of Scottish people do not want anyway.


I saw during the Brexit election vote total that Scotland voted overwhelmingly against Brexit but because of its relatively small population in comparison to England it did not matter, Brexit won. Now it seems, according to the news, that the present Premier of the SNP ( Scottish Nationalist Party ) believes she can win another referendum on the matter. I read that those who voted for Brexit were mostly angry at the micro-management they felt Brussels, ie the European Union, was shoving down their throats with petty rules and regulations. As an old WW2 veteran said in a youtube video I saw, " we didn't fight the Germans just so they could dominate us later ". Whether this is real or not, that seemed like a perception many had. From what I understand, many Scots resent a perceived dominance by England on their lives. Would Scots then be happy if the Germans, French or that nebulous term, " Europeans " , dominate their lives ? Also, Scotland receives a huge amount of transfer payments from London, do Scots believe the English would continue to give them welfare after they break up the United Kingdom ? I find it all so interesting.
Here in the United States there are some ridiculous secessionist movement like Calexit but unlike Canada or Britain, you can't legally vote for it. The American Civil War ended three arguments forever, or as long as there is a United States. The first one was the evil of slavery which was the foundational cause of the conflict. No sane person can say otherwise. But there were two other important causes. Does State law supersede Federal law ? No. The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of the land and no State law can override it. Do States have the right to secede ? No. There is nothing in The Constitution which allows for such a thing. When South Carolina and ten other Southern states seceded starting in April 12, 1861, they believed that the States should do whatever they want and the Federal government should butt out. They were willing to fight for such an argument. The Civil War killed the equivalent of 8 million Americans, in todays population, and the South lost. That is why secessionist movements don't go far. Are they willing to fight ? After all, Abraham Lincoln is considered the greatest President by many because he saved the union. He did it by turning Atlanta, Savanah, Richmond and many other Southern cities into wastelands and in the State of Georgia they still talk of General Sherman's  march to the sea.
So, my question to you Salem is, do the majority of Scots believe that separation from England would benefit them or is this some romantic idea of nationalism ? I personally believe Scotland would be greatly hurt but people are not always rational.

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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2017, 02:46:05 PM »
I saw during the Brexit election vote total that Scotland voted overwhelmingly against Brexit but because of its relatively small population in comparison to England it did not matter, Brexit won.
In a nutshell - this is a battle between socialism and capitalism.

England is by nature more capitalistic country - Europe on the other hand is more socialist in nature. The SNP in Scotland are a socialist party.  The amount of welfare on offer in Europe is lowest in the UK, and ours is still pretty generous. No only that, England seems to like less regulation - whereas the EU likes more regulations. Some of the health and safety regs from the EU are just so ridiculous.

We've (UK and EU) been pulling in separate directions for many years - and we need to go our separate ways at this point. This is best for both sides I feel.

You are right about the Scots receiving more from the UK government than they contribute.  Although they would argue the UK as a whole did well out of Scottish oil for many years.

The reason for the bitterness in the EU I feel is demonstrated in the attached chart for net financial contributions.
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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2017, 02:49:23 PM »
in order to push through another referendum that the majority of Scottish people do not want anyway.
I'm all for Scottish independence personally  but this is not the right time for it at all.
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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2017, 04:23:16 PM »
Generally, in the western hemisphere and above the equator it's 110V @60hz.   Everywhere else is 220V @50hz.

You might still be able to get DC in San Francisco ===> link

Not exactly. In Europe we switched around 1987 from 220V to 230V because of an international standard defined in 1983.
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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2017, 04:29:54 PM »
I saw during the Brexit election vote total that Scotland voted overwhelmingly against Brexit but because of its relatively small population in comparison to England it did not matter, Brexit won.
In a nutshell - this is a battle between socialism and capitalism.

England is by nature more capitalistic country - Europe on the other hand is more socialist in nature. The SNP in Scotland are a socialist party.  The amount of welfare on offer in Europe is lowest in the UK, and ours is still pretty generous. No only that, England seems to like less regulation - whereas the EU likes more regulations. Some of the health and safety regs from the EU are just so ridiculous.

We've (UK and EU) been pulling in separate directions for many years - and we need to go our separate ways at this point. This is best for both sides I feel.

You are right about the Scots receiving more from the UK government than they contribute.  Although they would argue the UK as a whole did well out of Scottish oil for many years.

The reason for the bitterness in the EU I feel is demonstrated in the attached chart for net financial contributions.

Social security is not socialism. This is a misconception and misunderstanding by some people for whatever reason.
And there isn't really socialism in the EU. The GDR or Sovjet Union had had socialism. The EU is far far far far far far far far far far far far far, further further further and even further from this away.
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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2017, 02:36:30 AM »
Social security is not socialism.
Not directly no; but welfare is way of distributing resources to less well off people by the government. So in a way it is a socialist ethos.  I'm not against it btw.

For our US viewers - welfare is sometime described as social security in some countries, and not just for old people pensions. 

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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2017, 06:12:03 AM »
Social security is not socialism.
Not directly no; but welfare is way of distributing resources to less well off people by the government. So in a way it is a socialist ethos.  I'm not against it btw.

For our US viewers - welfare is sometime described as social security in some countries, and not just for old people pensions.

So do you see building streets, bridges, water supply infrastructure and building walls to other countries paid from taxes also as socialism? It is distributing money from the well earning to the gernal public.

I believe it is totally wrong to put social security anywhere near socialism or socialist ethos.

By saying this, it is a method for the rich to get out of the responsibility to spend anything of their wealth in taxes. They always want to spend it on their own trusts, projects etc. to have their name on it. But if everybody would do it like this there would be ZERO coordination. And we know how this would end. In a desaster with huge gaps in coverage for certain people and certain regions, etc., because they have their own interests and agenda with it.

And the situation when no taxes or too few taxes (the tax pay morale is low) were paid is visible in Greece. Look in comparison to Sweden where the taxes were always high and the paying morale high, there it works pretty well.
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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2017, 06:54:06 AM »
So do you see building streets, bridges, water supply infrastructure and building walls to other countries paid from taxes also as socialism?
I do actually. Here in the UK the water supply is privately owned, the rail lines are privately owned - schools, hospitals, all privately financed - only our roads are publicly owned. 

I believe it is totally wrong to put social security anywhere near socialism or socialist ethos.
Giving people money to do no work sounds pretty socialist to me.

By saying this, it is a method for the rich to get out of the responsibility to spend anything of their wealth in taxes. They always want to spend it on their own trusts, projects etc.
At the end of the day it is all about how far you want to take that - what I've been saying is, in the EU they wish to take that further than we do in the UK. Which is why we should take our leave.

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Re: What are the differences between the US and Europe?
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2017, 10:48:59 AM »
So do you see building streets, bridges, water supply infrastructure and building walls to other countries paid from taxes also as socialism?
I do actually. Here in the UK the water supply is privately owned, the rail lines are privately owned - schools, hospitals, all privately financed - only our roads are publicly owned. 

I believe it is totally wrong to put social security anywhere near socialism or socialist ethos.
Giving people money to do no work sounds pretty socialist to me.

By saying this, it is a method for the rich to get out of the responsibility to spend anything of their wealth in taxes. They always want to spend it on their own trusts, projects etc.
At the end of the day it is all about how far you want to take that - what I've been saying is, in the EU they wish to take that further than we do in the UK. Which is why we should take our leave.

Yes, I agree the Brits should definetly leave the EU.
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