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Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #615 on: December 17, 2020, 08:20:14 AM »
Normally I would be looking forward to the #1 entry but with recent events, not so much.  :(

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Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #616 on: December 17, 2020, 08:30:30 AM »
Hitomi is number 9 ?  :o ??? I really thought she'd be higher.  :P
If you count by replies which is a measure, I think, of how much 'buzz' she generates, she's number 1, right?
Rortarian here.  I've been a Hitomi Tanaka fan since 2003.  She is the Black Swan, impossible to imagine until you see her!

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Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #617 on: December 17, 2020, 08:47:48 AM »
Hitomi is number 9 ?  :o ??? I really thought she'd be higher.  :P
If you count by replies which is a measure, I think, of how much 'buzz' she generates, she's number 1, right?

Yes and no. Yes if you count the recent time but no if you go by when their respective threads started. Unlike Beshine and Chelsea Charms, she is not a manufactured construct but a real work of nature. Chelsea's natural breasts were D Cups and Beshine's A Cup. Thanks to surgery, they both became much larger than Hitomi BUT they are both naturally much smaller and it can then be argued Hitomi is more impressive. Also, Hitomi, in my opinion, is more attractive than either Chelsea or Beshine sans breasts. I loved Beshine and Chelsea because they had/did make themselves amazingly huge but having met Hitomi and Chelsea, Hitomi seems nicer. That is my impression and opinion. Others may feel differently and that's ok.  :)

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Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #618 on: December 17, 2020, 12:00:14 PM »
Hitomi is number 9 ?  :o ??? I really thought she'd be higher.  :P
If you count by replies which is a measure, I think, of how much 'buzz' she generates, she's number 1, right?

Yes and no. Yes if you count the recent time but no if you go by when their respective threads started...

This is probably going to come across as a dumb question to those of you who have been a faithful follower of this thread since Post #1, but why wouldn't the "recent time" be what counts? As near as I can tell, this ranking has been re-done annually, since this thread was started in 2018, so why should views/replies from prior to 2020 have any bearing whatsoever on the 2020 rankings? That seems completely counterintuitive, to me. Not only does it give models "extra credit," for having been around longer, it also allows them to proverbially "rest on their laurels." The way you have this ranking set up, it creates a heavy bias in favor of models who have had threads on this forum for 10+ years: I doubt it's a coincidence that no women in the Top 10, and only three women in the Top 50 have a thread that was created after January 1, 2010. It's a hell of an ask to expect anybody to break into the higher rankings, when they're going against models who may have as much as a nineteen-year head start.

tl;dr, I guess I don't agree with the idea that how popular a model was in 2005 should have any bearing on whether she's considered one of the "BEA's Top 150 Babes" in 2020. 2020 rankings should be based on views/replies in 2020, and nothing else. There are at least three women ranked in your Top 15 whose respective threads got less traffic than several women who didn't make your Top 100, and that wrong, IMO.

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Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #619 on: December 17, 2020, 12:14:00 PM »
Hitomi is number 9 ?  :o ??? I really thought she'd be higher.  :P
If you count by replies which is a measure, I think, of how much 'buzz' she generates, she's number 1, right?

Yes and no. Yes if you count the recent time but no if you go by when their respective threads started...

This is probably going to come across as a dumb question to those of you who have been a faithful follower of this thread since Post #1, but why wouldn't the "recent time" be what counts? As near as I can tell, this ranking has been re-done annually, since this thread was started in 2018, so why should views/replies from prior to 2020 have any bearing whatsoever on the 2020 rankings? That seems completely counterintuitive, to me. Not only does it give models "extra credit," for having been around longer, it also allows them to proverbially "rest on their laurels." The way you have this ranking set up, it creates a heavy bias in favor of models who have had threads on this forum for 10+ years: I doubt it's a coincidence that no women in the Top 10, and only three women in the Top 50 have a thread that was created after January 1, 2010. It's a hell of an ask to expect anybody to break into the higher rankings, when they're going against models who may have as much as a nineteen-year head start.

tl;dr, I guess I don't agree with the idea that how popular a model was in 2005 should have any bearing on whether she's considered one of the "BEA's Top 150 Babes" in 2020. 2020 rankings should be based on views/replies in 2020, and nothing else. There are at least three women ranked in your Top 15 whose respective threads got less traffic than several women who didn't make your Top 100, and that wrong, IMO.

Points well taken. Since this is salem's thread, perhaps you should PM him and ask for additional threads or changes to this one.  :)

Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #620 on: December 17, 2020, 02:41:26 PM »
Indeed, points well taken.  I have also noted that this is not a thread about the current top 150 babes, but cumulative totals, which are always going to favor girls from long ago, even when they stop being topics of conversation in recent years with their threads buried 100 pages back and averaging just a few posts a year.  While one could say that they are in the BEA top 150 of all time, it certainly does not reflect interest in the past year, the past two years, or possibly the past 10 years; when you check a thread and see the current page has posts from 2014, it is hard to accept they are currently listed as on of the top 150 girls for 2020.

Having an All Time Top 150 list is fine, and that is essentially what this is.  A girl that retired and had her implants downsized or a reduction 20 years ago is only relevant today as having been popular at one time, which this list reflects.  It would probably be better to have a list that reflects current and recent interest, because, overall, this list is really not going to change; an immensely popular girl today may take a decade to break the top 100, which hardly seems fair.

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Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #621 on: December 17, 2020, 08:45:44 PM »
Points well taken. Since this is salem's thread, perhaps you should PM him and ask for additional threads or changes to this one.  :)

Can't think of a reason why I should send a PM to ask a question that I think merits a public response?

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Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #622 on: December 18, 2020, 05:00:51 AM »
Points well taken. Since this is salem's thread, perhaps you should PM him and ask for additional threads or changes to this one.  :)

Can't think of a reason why I should send a PM to ask a question that I think merits a public response?

Because sometimes a private conversation can bring about the change you want. Think of it as a supplementary action you can take.  :)

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Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #623 on: December 18, 2020, 06:04:03 AM »
The problem with trying to do it as 'recent' is making a note of 'every' model/actress etc and counting their views from the last 12 months, which just is not practical. Another reason why so many women have such high views is that there simply was not anywhere near as many women in the past online as there is now. We can see from the General Discussion forum that practically every day a new model is given a thread and after a year most of these threads barely have any posts whereas in the past most of these women would have been commented on much more frequently. Posting limits also have a lot to do with it, people have to choose carefully who they post pictures of.

This thread is and always will be a listing of the cumulative views since the forum began, which of course means that if you have had a thread for 19 years, chances are you will be pretty highly placed!

Might rename it to say Top 150 of all-time or something instead.

I did open it up to include the top 500, not just the top 150, so you will be more likely to see other models who have made good progress from last year when I start the next round in January.

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Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #624 on: December 18, 2020, 06:18:54 AM »
Indeed, points well taken.  I have also noted that this is not a thread about the current top 150 babes, but cumulative totals, which are always going to favor girls from long ago, even when they stop being topics of conversation in recent years with their threads buried 100 pages back and averaging just a few posts a year.  While one could say that they are in the BEA top 150 of all time, it certainly does not reflect interest in the past year, the past two years, or possibly the past 10 years; when you check a thread and see the current page has posts from 2014, it is hard to accept they are currently listed as on of the top 150 girls for 2020.

Having an All Time Top 150 list is fine, and that is essentially what this is.  A girl that retired and had her implants downsized or a reduction 20 years ago is only relevant today as having been popular at one time, which this list reflects.  It would probably be better to have a list that reflects current and recent interest, because, overall, this list is really not going to change; an immensely popular girl today may take a decade to break the top 100, which hardly seems fair.

It has ALWAYS been about cumulative totals (as stated on the very first post of this thread), sure the top 50 or so don't change much, but the 51-150 change quite a bit.

No-one is stopping you from doing your own listing. The logistics of which might not be particularly easy though.

Alternatively I could weed out any model who has had nothing posted in the last 2 or 3 years (or maybe just do a separate list in this thread).

Possibilities are endless.  ;)

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Re: BEA's Top 150 viewed Babes of all-time! - From General Discussion
« Reply #625 on: December 18, 2020, 06:36:22 AM »
Personally, this particular thread should stay as is because it's fun to reminisce about some like Keisha Evans whose thread has been mostly moribund yet was extremely popular a while back and new upcoming  models who, with enough time, might displace her. More threads like most popular girls of 2020 might be possible. Salem has taken the time to do this so be happy someone is doing it.

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Re: BEA's Top 150 viewed Babes of all-time! - From General Discussion
« Reply #626 on: December 18, 2020, 08:16:35 AM »
Salem has taken the time to do this so be happy someone is doing it.

I, for one, really appreciate it. 

Thanks Salem!
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Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #627 on: December 18, 2020, 08:22:10 AM »
Indeed, points well taken.  I have also noted that this is not a thread about the current top 150 babes, but cumulative totals, which are always going to favor girls from long ago, even when they stop being topics of conversation in recent years with their threads buried 100 pages back and averaging just a few posts a year.  While one could say that they are in the BEA top 150 of all time, it certainly does not reflect interest in the past year, the past two years, or possibly the past 10 years; when you check a thread and see the current page has posts from 2014, it is hard to accept they are currently listed as on of the top 150 girls for 2020.

Having an All Time Top 150 list is fine, and that is essentially what this is.  A girl that retired and had her implants downsized or a reduction 20 years ago is only relevant today as having been popular at one time, which this list reflects.  It would probably be better to have a list that reflects current and recent interest, because, overall, this list is really not going to change; an immensely popular girl today may take a decade to break the top 100, which hardly seems fair.

It has ALWAYS been about cumulative totals (as stated on the very first post of this thread), sure the top 50 or so don't change much, but the 51-150 change quite a bit.

No-one is stopping you from doing your own listing. The logistics of which might not be particularly easy though.

Alternatively I could weed out any model who has had nothing posted in the last 2 or 3 years (or maybe just do a separate list in this thread).

Possibilities are endless.  ;)
Indeed, they are endless, and without software that can automatically sort the numbers, the task would be tedious.  We all witness what threads are repeatedly on page 1, so we have a fair idea of what ones people most frequently comment, though no real idea which ones are getting the most comments.  I would think, Salem, that just trying to manually organize the 125-150 listings to include newer girls must a nightmare if you have no automatic software sorting the numbers.  In today's world, computers usually perform tabulations with whatever parameters they are tasked and we assume this program is no different, but perhaps we assume too much; it may be based on a very old platform.  And that makes your job all the harder.

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Re: BEA's Top 150 viewed Babes of all-time! - From General Discussion
« Reply #628 on: December 18, 2020, 12:20:30 PM »
Yes, if the forum had an option to check the views from a particular year only that would be pretty cool, then you could truly see how the popularity of models changes over time.

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Re: The BEA's Top 150 Babes! - From General Discussion
« Reply #629 on: December 18, 2020, 10:29:04 PM »
Indeed, they are endless, and without software that can automatically sort the numbers, the task would be tedious.  We all witness what threads are repeatedly on page 1, so we have a fair idea of what ones people most frequently comment, though no real idea which ones are getting the most comments.

Frankly, even that is kinda counterfeit, if we're being honest. There's a whole lot of threads on this message board that are kept "alive" by super fans who artificially boost thread views by repeatedly bumping them, to make them seem like they're still popular, even though they're practically the only person posting in them.