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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2020, 07:35:12 PM »
I would be happy to keep the same posting limits for the General Discussion forum, that of no more than 8 posts in a 12 hour period, but apply that not just to image posts but to all posts, regardless of whether or not they have images on them.

I do agree that the posting (mine included) can be a bit excessive (although my posts are almost always image related) at times. I have seen posts from 9 in the morning be on the third page by late afternoon, or worse. A lot of these replies are just a couple of words.

In my opinion, you will kill the forum if you do that.  Once upon a time you’d have over a dozen regulars putting in their two cents, with threads getting pushed back several pages sometimes.  So what?  That’s what an active, living breathing, forum is all about.  There may only be a few people who do this now, but why does it harm you?  Often, I look forward to seeing the little interplay and comments.  I seriously doubt if anyone is doing it just to keep a thread alive.  And if a reply is long and rambling?  Guess what?  I don’t read it!  It’s so easy just skip it if you’re not interested.  I mean, someone else may like to read it!  This forum is for everyone, not just those who like to post pictures.  I love to pop in and out throughout the day and see what someone has commented on.  When I come back after a few hours and I see the forum looking exactly as I left it, I think: DEAD.

 IS IT REALLY SO TERRIBLE TO HAVE TO GO THRU THE PAGES? 

Seriously, if you curtail people’s number of responses, I will lose rapid interest here and I think, so too, will many others.  It would be a damn shame.
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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2020, 08:28:47 PM »
I only come into the forum once a day on weekdays.  I post 8 picture posts a day.  If non picture posts are forbidden, I will not be able to comment on anything.

Also, I'm a little frustrated that everyone keeps saying all the posts are disappearing off the front page, when you can go to your profile, select change profile/look and layout, and change the topics and messages to display per page to 50.  As I said, I only come here once a day on weekdays, and with this setting new posts RARELY take over 1 and a quarter pages to go through.

To me, people doing too much commenting, when I'm using these settings, is a non-issue.   >:(

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I apologize in advance if I post duplicate pictures in any of the picture threads I deal in.  My MO in getting pictures of one girl is to rip her Instagram.  That ends up with me having up to 2000 pics of her.  I've tried almost half a dozen duplicate finder programs, and none of them find all of the duplicates I inevitably end up with.

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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2020, 08:45:55 PM »
I agree with Shadowmuse and Max.

And how hard can it be - how much time do you waste - looking over a page to find which threads are actually of interest to you? One is not being forced to check out every thread with a reply.
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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2020, 08:55:01 PM »
I see some of the complaints and I feel that I'm being targeted. if anybody ever bothers looking at the forum statistics, I'm number two in the amount of time spent on this forum. I like coming here and I read all the new entries that are posted in every section and if I feel there is something I can contribute I will add a post to it. If not, I don't. Yes, there are some threads in which I make photo and comments additions in which the model, performer or fellow fan like Beshine, Lady Llelwyn, Charade, Anri, Hitomi and others in which I want to add and see going back on top. Of course, there are some models who I personally don't like to look at but others do so I'll leave that thread alone and let others enjoy it. To each his/her own. As for limitations, if I remember correctly, you could post as many of your own copyrighted work as you wish and morphs and one in a 24 hour period of a model site such as Beshine. I try to keep within these parameters. It seems though that now, as I'm reading the last few entries, that there seems to be a movement to drastically limit the posts and therefore the fun of this place. I can't see anything positive coming of this. :(

Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2020, 09:07:38 PM »
^I agree with SMB; what is the point?  To discourage interest?  I don't post on a lot of threads, however, I would like to think I am free to reply to questions or comments without worrying if I am going to exceed some arbitrary limit that serves no purpose.  Clearly, if you find your favorite thread on page 3 or 5 or 10, it just means people are engaging in this forum, which is the purpose I would think.  If we don't want threads moving downward, we should limit posts to one a month or one a year; see how stupid that sounds?  Threads move secondary to either interest or lack thereof.

The purpose of any forum is to talk about things of of common interest, yet people want to limit talk.  So how successful would a forum be if you eliminate posting?  I find it ironic that the people who virtually never post want to limit posts; what could possibly be their rational objective?  If you have trouble finding your favorite thread, there is a search in the right upper corner; use it.  If you are dismayed because your favorite thread is buried far back, maybe it is because you don't post or maybe it is because there are literally over 2000 threads and your favorite is of less interest to the active members.

It probably affects me a lot less than some others who find interest in multiple threads, but I find the entire concept counter productive.  On some days, when there is some back and forth on a thread, it is very possible to reply maybe four times in a couple hours; there goes half your permissible posts, just being friendly or answering questions.  There goes any camaraderie; wait for tomorrow to reply.  Limiting interaction will only result in loss of interest; it is just common sense.  Eventually, the BEA will be just like the other failed big boob sites, no participation, only here, it will be mandated.

I try to abide by the rules here, as stupid as some are.  I mean, seriously, who created an algorithm that censors totally innocuous words?  Everyone decrys it and yet no one fixes it.  How many common, everyday words are banned?  I can understand models may want to limit their paid material, but I have seen members get dinged for posting pictures from social media.  We have an extensive list of rules already. why discourage participation to the list?  I certainly don't see the members that are actually active here asking to limit their participation, only people that virtually never post.

Which bring me to lurking.  I was a member in the forum when the BEA started.  Though I was absent for more than a decade, on occasion I would check out threads.  If there were limits on posting, the threads would unlikely have had the same degree of banter and information.  And throughout all that time, I never once came here and had the audacity to ask active members to post less so finding a thread would be easier.   

Here's an idea, 13 threads fit on the first page, so pick the top 13 active ones and delete all the rest.  Sure, they may be threads that 99% of people are interested in and they will stop coming here, but the thread moving problem is solved.  When you bring a solution to the point of absurdity, sometimes you realize how stupid the solution was to start.

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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2020, 05:09:25 AM »
I find it amusing that users complaining about some folks posting too much are users that have like 40 posts in 10 years. I don't have a problem with lurking, but don't come out of the woodwork bemoaning activity levels when you don't make any activity at all.

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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2020, 05:32:18 AM »
I would be happy to keep the same posting limits for the General Discussion forum, that of no more than 8 posts in a 12 hour period, but apply that not just to image posts but to all posts, regardless of whether or not they have images on them.

I think that would be a horrible idea. Not only because it unnecessarily throttles participation in this Forum but also because it is an onerous imposition on us all. Who has time to do all these complicated calculations? Of what use is it? How does this improve the interaction here? On the contrary, it diminishes it. And it is entirely disingenuous and destructive of non-contributors/near-perpetual lurkers to hype this rule, when they will end up not even being effected by it. They remind me of the disinformation campaigners for Brexit; now that the SHTF and yet they are still members of the European Parliament, benefiting from Brussels while their countrymen suffer.

Anyone who is complaining about their favorite thread being pushed down by others: that's why we have a Bookmarks function. And you can set it so that the Bookmarks page is displayed by default. Any thread that has a "NEW" icon next to it, you can click on it to see the latest, and you can ignore the rest.

I concur with my esteemed colleagues BElover, Bombayduk, solvegas, rtpoe, MaxBigfoot and Shadowmuse Blown. This proposed rule change is counterproductive, serves no useful purpose at all, defies all logic around building and maintaining community, and is only going to be the deathknell of a Forum that has outlasted so many others by a couple of decades now. It ain't broke, so this "fix" is unnecessary. Please.

Speaking of broken, the attachments limit still has not been repaired. Perhaps instead of this horrible proposal TPTB should consider restoring it to its former more-than-adequate limit.
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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2020, 05:47:43 AM »
^ Not only should the attachments limit be fixed but increased to 5 MB so we could have better gifs and MP4 entries. :)

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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2020, 05:58:39 AM »
Funny to follow this dispute. Being used to imageboards I enjoy the slowness and the general discipline of the posters staying on topic in this forum very much. Just adjust your settings to keep it well-arranged and if someone derails a thread, report them so moderators can look into it. As long as we do not get overtly meta discussions, everything seems fine.

The file size limit is a more serious issue, whereas the word filter is always good for a laugh.

Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2020, 08:38:56 AM »
I totally concur about the file size being broken and unfixed for months.  Whenever I resize a picture down or capture a video screen shot, they are always in the 2-3mb size which used to fit just fine.  Now I go through more editing and resizing just to try to try to get a image to size.  And someone, why not address the stupid censor algorithm; even the mods get bleeped on occasions.  We can say any of George Carlin's 7 dirty words, but get censored for common words used in polite society?  Seriously?  Seems that I have to always be mindful of the way I am forced to word sentences, like I am a **09**.

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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2020, 07:56:09 PM »
I know it’s been suggested before but a like button would at least cut down on the useless one or two word replies.
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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2020, 08:27:15 PM »
^I agree, Meatman.  My theory is that since the forum doesn't generate any revenue for the BEA, the owner is not willing to update the forum software.  This would also explain why the file size limits haven't been returned to the old limit, or even increased.  It would cost to add the memory to the servers that would be required.   :P

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I apologize in advance if I post duplicate pictures in any of the picture threads I deal in.  My MO in getting pictures of one girl is to rip her Instagram.  That ends up with me having up to 2000 pics of her.  I've tried almost half a dozen duplicate finder programs, and none of them find all of the duplicates I inevitably end up with.

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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2020, 08:25:51 AM »
Just wanted to add that, despite the challenges of running a site as big as this one is and despite that we are enjoying it for free, it is disheartening to see the attachment size to be so limited and for the standards to be getting only stricter in terms of post frequency.  This is at a time where storage space is cheaper than ever, and has largely followed the predictions set out by Moore's law.
 
This is also at a time where other forums can handle attachments up to 100 MB in size.

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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2020, 09:57:46 PM »
I just realized that I am still on page 3 of the most posting users, while just below 2000 postings. This place has slowed down...
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Re: NEW POSTING LIMITS
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2020, 11:05:16 PM »
I just realized that I am still on page 3 of the most posting users, while just below 2000 postings. This place has slowed down...

Not surprised. After all, we have lost busy members like Palomine, Sadistyk and Gonzo and others like Shara, Goober and Munchwolf for example only visit once in a while and they were all very active in the past. So yes, the BEA pace is like walking on sticky tar nowadays.  :P