Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2700 on: July 20, 2024, 10:05:26 AM »
One thing that I wonder about is if Foxy will ever manage to find bigger custom expanders. She has been looking for them for years now but unable to find them. And not just her, but also Mary Madison and Jessy Bunny.
The lack of custom shells is a serious issue, but barely talked about
It took time (and I have to assume money) for Beshine to find a company, so I would like to assume Foxy, Mary, and others can find the same or a similar source.  We don't know the company, the country it is in, nor the size of the implants, but we know it existed and it wasn't Eurosilicone.  With more girls seeking expanders capable of going beyond the traditional 3000cc, you would think some company would see the marketing potential in making custom expanders.  Never give up, never surrender in the quest for enormous boobs.

Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2701 on: July 20, 2024, 10:34:57 AM »
You will never learn having others do everything for you, do your own homework.
I imagined.....
You are just a charlatan, blah blah blah blah.... without any basis and from what I see you don't know how to read either; If you read my post again you will see that I have searched through all of Beshine's posts (1492 posts) and none of them refer to what YOU claim;

I've done my job, will you do your job?

Please, do not attack Bombayduk like that on the forum. Send him a PM (Private Message) and you may get more information like that. I don't want this thread to be made to seem like Beshine's due to what the moderator, salem, when he returns from vacation, considers to be bad for this thread. Be positive, please.
Thank you.  My post was about the difficulty in finding custom implants and I simply reiterated what I have read in hopes people would understand and maybe Foxy would consider sources not normally thought about.

It seems very good to me that they search, but in companies dedicated to them (if they exist) and I reiterate that they are dedicated to the creation of implants; The outrage that you say that Beshine indicated that it was a company not dedicated to the implant business is impossible if it does not comply with ISO regulations, and those regulations are not given overnight.

Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2702 on: July 20, 2024, 10:55:17 AM »
One thing that I wonder about is if Foxy will ever manage to find bigger custom expanders. She has been looking for them for years now but unable to find them. And not just her, but also Mary Madison and Jessy Bunny.
The lack of custom shells is a serious issue, but barely talked about
It took time (and I have to assume money) for Beshine to find a company, so I would like to assume Foxy, Mary, and others can find the same or a similar source.  We don't know the company, the country it is in, nor the size of the implants, but we know it existed and it wasn't Eurosilicone.  With more girls seeking expanders capable of going beyond the traditional 3000cc, you would think some company would see the marketing potential in making custom expanders.  Never give up, never surrender in the quest for enormous boobs.
If the world of huge boobs is a very small niche, the manufacturing of expander implants is even smaller, it is not profitable for what you have to invest in it.

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Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2703 on: July 20, 2024, 11:08:11 AM »
 I'm not involved into the implant/expander industry.
But let's have a spot on the technical issues to make such kind of implant or sphere like it is maybe done to balloons or so.
In such case you need to have some kind of negative or outside form to create the skin of the implant.
Maybe like such chocolate x-mas body's or easter bunnies (hollow bodies), they use a form and but in the silicone or material which creates the outer shell and then let the form rotate until it is solid.

If so in Beshines case there had to be a really huge form to create her expanders and even more important is to have enough material put into this process to get an even thickness of the material and an important rotation speed to not have material only located on one side.
Sure there might be a company that have such possibilities, but it would be very expensive to only create one set of implants.
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Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2704 on: July 20, 2024, 11:12:53 AM »
One thing that I wonder about is if Foxy will ever manage to find bigger custom expanders. She has been looking for them for years now but unable to find them. And not just her, but also Mary Madison and Jessy Bunny.
The lack of custom shells is a serious issue, but barely talked about
It took time (and I have to assume money) for Beshine to find a company, so I would like to assume Foxy, Mary, and others can find the same or a similar source.  We don't know the company, the country it is in, nor the size of the implants, but we know it existed and it wasn't Eurosilicone.  With more girls seeking expanders capable of going beyond the traditional 3000cc, you would think some company would see the marketing potential in making custom expanders.  Never give up, never surrender in the quest for enormous boobs.

We actually don’t know it existed. One person saying it doesn’t make it a fact.

Given that implants are highly regulated devices (in both Europe and US because of safety risks) it is highly unlikely that a company would have made a custom implant for one person to use that would have exposed them to significant fines and potentially jail time. There are regulatory requirements a company must meet and the cost to meet those requirements is not trivial. If the market isn’t there for them it’s not worth their time and effort and risk exposure. Particularly for an elective procedure.

One point of clarification for Booster. ISO is an international standard but not a requirement. The MDD and newer MDR in Europe are requirements. ISO certification is a means to meet the standards set out by various regulatory bodies.

All this said, it’s anyone’s prerogative to believe everything someone who created an internet persona has said and regurgitate it as fact. Doesn’t hurt me any. I just choose to be more discerning.
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Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2705 on: July 20, 2024, 11:49:02 AM »
One thing that I wonder about is if Foxy will ever manage to find bigger custom expanders. She has been looking for them for years now but unable to find them. And not just her, but also Mary Madison and Jessy Bunny.
The lack of custom shells is a serious issue, but barely talked about
It took time (and I have to assume money) for Beshine to find a company, so I would like to assume Foxy, Mary, and others can find the same or a similar source.  We don't know the company, the country it is in, nor the size of the implants, but we know it existed and it wasn't Eurosilicone.  With more girls seeking expanders capable of going beyond the traditional 3000cc, you would think some company would see the marketing potential in making custom expanders.  Never give up, never surrender in the quest for enormous boobs.

We actually don’t know it existed. One person saying it doesn’t make it a fact.

Given that implants are highly regulated devices (in both Europe and US because of safety risks) it is highly unlikely that a company would have made a custom implant for one person to use that would have exposed them to significant fines and potentially jail time. There are regulatory requirements a company must meet and the cost to meet those requirements is not trivial. If the market isn’t there for them it’s not worth their time and effort and risk exposure. Particularly for an elective procedure.

One point of clarification for Booster. ISO is an international standard but not a requirement. The MDD and newer MDR in Europe are requirements. ISO certification is a means to meet the standards set out by various regulatory bodies.

All this said, it’s anyone’s prerogative to believe everything someone who created an internet persona has said and regurgitate it as fact. Doesn’t hurt me any. I just choose to be more discerning.

When I say ISO I mean one or more ISOs for the service of medical devices.
An ISO gives prestige to the company, it is not necessary to have it, anyone can design implants but it is better if the company has it and we avoid problems that may arise later.
I may think that certain ISOs are not mandatory, as I already said they give prestige, but for certain things such as medical supplies it is an essential requirement.
I work in a company related to food and you must comply with several ISOs to be able to work with your clients.

Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2706 on: July 20, 2024, 11:59:40 AM »
To deny the existence of such implants is to deny Beshine has enormous implants, to deny reality, but the point of this conversation was about the difficulty finding a company to make them before it got railroaded into other aspects.

Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2707 on: July 20, 2024, 01:48:57 PM »
To deny the existence of such implants is to deny Beshine has enormous implants, to deny reality, but the point of this conversation was about the difficulty finding a company to make them before it got railroaded into other aspects.

A the good old red herring fallacy. Well done on changing the premise of the discussion.

And yes Beshine has really large breast implants. I’ll leave you to the rest of your fanatical and “logical” conclusions. Doesn’t hurt me any.

Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2708 on: July 20, 2024, 02:15:20 PM »
To deny the existence of such implants is to deny Beshine has enormous implants, to deny reality, but the point of this conversation was about the difficulty finding a company to make them before it got railroaded into other aspects.

A the good old red herring fallacy. Well done on changing the premise of the discussion.

And yes Beshine has really large breast implants. I’ll leave you to the rest of your fanatical and “logical” conclusions. Doesn’t hurt me any.

I couldn't have said it better
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Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2709 on: July 20, 2024, 02:15:53 PM »
I do not know where Beshine sourced her implants, but if what Lolo Ferrari's husband and manager told about Lolo's implants, it does not have to be a manufacturing company as such.

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/mar/16/features11.g2

Quote from: The Guardian
A couple of years ago, Vigne described the operation that made her a monstrous 54G. "I calculated the volume, the diameter, I drew up the plans and I took them to a guy I know who designs fuselage moulds for the aeronautics industry," he said.

"The designer made the moulds, and I gave them to a prosthetics maker who produced the empty silicone implants.
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Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2710 on: July 20, 2024, 03:06:07 PM »
I do not know where Beshine sourced her implants, but if what Lolo Ferrari's husband and manager told about Lolo's implants, it does not have to be a manufacturing company as such.

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/mar/16/features11.g2

Quote from: The Guardian
A couple of years ago, Vigne described the operation that made her a monstrous 54G. "I calculated the volume, the diameter, I drew up the plans and I took them to a guy I know who designs fuselage moulds for the aeronautics industry," he said.

"The designer made the moulds, and I gave them to a prosthetics maker who produced the empty silicone implants.

You are talking to me about almost more than 30 years ago, at that time almost nothing was regulated.
As I said, designing or making plans can be done by anyone, but you do have to go to a company that is dedicated to making implants and is regulated.
Have you ever thought, if it is so easy, why can't other girls find a company like that? is there anything else? If Lolo did it without being rich, I don't think it's a money problem.

You just have to see how it all turned out...Each breast weighed 2.8 kg and its skin was stretched to the maximum. An engineer had to help in the operation so that his spine did not deviate, but he suffered various disorders from this operation. His chest was squeezing his lungs and he couldn't breathe. It was difficult for him to walk and move, and he was terrified of the idea that his breasts were going to explode when he got on a plane, which increased his fatigue and worsened his depression. .
In short, a butcher shop.

Today that could not be done and neither could it be done 15 years ago.
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Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2711 on: July 20, 2024, 03:33:13 PM »
Some interestings points are made here. Still it doesnt explain why Foxy hasnt been able to solve the custom shell issue.
1 enough time has passed for her to organise the whole thing
2 she has the right doc
3 she has the money to do it
4 her skin looks healthy enough to handle new shells

Everything is there. But still no new expanders

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Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2712 on: July 20, 2024, 04:41:32 PM »
I do not know where Beshine sourced her implants, but if what Lolo Ferrari's husband and manager told about Lolo's implants, it does not have to be a manufacturing company as such.

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/mar/16/features11.g2

Quote from: The Guardian
A couple of years ago, Vigne described the operation that made her a monstrous 54G. "I calculated the volume, the diameter, I drew up the plans and I took them to a guy I know who designs fuselage moulds for the aeronautics industry," he said.

"The designer made the moulds, and I gave them to a prosthetics maker who produced the empty silicone implants.

You are talking to me about almost more than 30 years ago, at that time almost nothing was regulated.
As I said, designing or making plans can be done by anyone, but you do have to go to a company that is dedicated to making implants and is regulated.
Have you ever thought, if it is so easy, why can't other girls find a company like that? is there anything else? If Lolo did it without being rich, I don't think it's a money problem.

You just have to see how it all turned out...Each breast weighed 2.8 kg and its skin was stretched to the maximum. An engineer had to help in the operation so that his spine did not deviate, but he suffered various disorders from this operation. His chest was squeezing his lungs and he couldn't breathe. It was difficult for him to walk and move, and he was terrified of the idea that his breasts were going to explode when he got on a plane, which increased his fatigue and worsened his depression. .
In short, a butcher shop.

Today that could not be done and neither could it be done 15 years ago.

I had to go back to read Beshine's FAQ to better remember what information she has divulged about her implants.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180321072712/http://www.beshine.com/tour/models/beshine.html

Quote from: Beshine's FAQ
What kind of implants do you have ?
My current set of implants is totally custom made. They work similar to expander implants which can be filled with saline to expand. But the difference is that the shell of my implants is made of a special designed material which is much more elastic and durable. This gives me the possibility to add more fluid to the implants to reach more extreme sizes as a result. Because of the new shell it's later possible when a requested size is reached, that the inserted saline will be replaced with a fluid which gets silicone implant like after some time. This is perfect for longtime and permanent use so i don't have to worry about leaking etc in the future.

Where can other women who are interested in gigantic breasts sizes get these implants ?
You or your doctor can not order this type of implants. These implants are not made by any known manufacture. They are specifically custom made for my needs.

Do you think this is accurate? On the face of it, it seems the source of Beshine's implants might well be similar to those of Lolo's.
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Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2713 on: July 20, 2024, 05:09:35 PM »
Very good work, titorteat.  The truth has been out there, it was just a matter of looking.

And now, rereading the implant description, I have to wonder if my prognostication regarding the makeup being more akin to traditional implants in thickness and durability, with a distal port added might be also correct.  And I had forgotten that remark about the replacement fluid becoming more gel like in time.  Such fantastic planning.

And I believe Beshine listed Lola as one of the girls that inspired her to get implants, with a initial goal of maybe 3000cc, then changing it to 5000cc, before ordering her implants capable of going well beyond 10k, that are only in recent years finally attaining the round shape she always wanted.

All these things combine to offer hope; the possibility exists, it existed in 2009 and can be found if you look in the right place.  If I were Foxy and Mary, I would think what other medical device (sterile) companies manufacture polyurethane products.

Thanks for jogging my memory on these things, been awhile since I read much of Beshine's history.

Re: Foxy Menagerie Verre and her enormous breast implants!
« Reply #2714 on: July 20, 2024, 07:14:32 PM »
Quote from: Beshine's FAQ
What kind of implants do you have ?
My current set of implants is totally custom made. They work similar to expander implants which can be filled with saline to expand. But the difference is that the shell of my implants is made of a special designed material which is much more elastic and durable. This gives me the possibility to add more fluid to the implants to reach more extreme sizes as a result. Because of the new shell it's later possible when a requested size is reached, that the inserted saline will be replaced with a fluid which gets silicone implant like after some time. This is perfect for longtime and permanent use so i don't have to worry about leaking etc in the future.

Where can other women who are interested in gigantic breasts sizes get these implants ?
You or your doctor can not order this type of implants. These implants are not made by any known manufacture. They are specifically custom made for my needs.
This doesn't mean anything to me, this is written to claim followers and it doesn't seem bad to me that she or anyone else does it; but it is full of inconsistencies, if you stop to think a little you realize that this lady has a special design MATERIAL that is more elastic and durable... what a coincidence that in the expanders of 2024 and previous years that material is not used to lengthen plus the durability and elasticity if this material already existed, when headaches would have taken away more than one person or doctor.
And now what makes the least sense... when it reaches the maximum size is the possibility of filling it with silicone; Are you going to replace the physiological serum with silicone that has a little more density? more weight? and all this when it will happen at 50 or 60 years old, let's be realistic please!

The "Beshine FAQ" page is unreliable, it has had many modifications, first they weighed 36lb each, then they weighed 42lb without specifying if they were both or each, months later they changed it again to 42lb but this time added "each one" and suddenly one day you decide to lose the weight, why?

I continue to stand by what I say and I have demonstrated it on numerous occasions with camera show photos from different years, with photos from 2011 and later wearing the same clothes and there is not even the slightest difference to justify that it has 20,000cc or more, there is only see that when she went from 8,000cc to 10,000cc there was a notable difference, if she had 20k when compared to 2011 it would be a very obvious difference and I have never seen it, I only see the passage of years (24 years and her 42 years ) and the settling of the implant and relaxation of the skin.

PD: I don't rule out that it could be true but manufactured by a company that is not in the implant business, I don't believe it, there are many papers and certificates and registration to be placed in a body.
In my opinion I never go over 10,000cc, why? I don't know, maybe she had some unexpected problem.
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