Clocks going back 1 hour...

G_I_John · « **on:** October 30, 2004, 04:10:13 PM »

Does this affect everyone else?...

i.e. US, Canada, Asia, Australia

I'm not really sure which is why I ask, plus it's also a handy reminder for those who had forgotten

G_I "Woo 1 more hour of **82**, yay

." _John

Whink · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2004, 04:20:20 PM »

I think it affects all of us over here in "The Colonies", but not Australia as their daylight savings time should just be beginning this weekend.

Anyone from down under know for sure?

Hentaibee · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2004, 04:23:25 PM »

1 more hour to look at huge boobs and draw huge boobs.

Good enough for me.

JizzTits · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2004, 04:54:26 PM »

i'll be working past midnight... so does this mean we don't get paid for an hour of work?

Kanodin · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2004, 05:39:01 PM »

Arizona ignores the seasonal time changes.

Pulsar · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2004, 06:44:26 PM »

as does Indiana iirc

Zatoichi · « **Reply #6 on:** October 30, 2004, 06:53:25 PM »

It effects every province in Canada except Saskachewan. And Japan doesn't have DST.

Palomine · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2004, 09:06:05 PM »

Like the electoral college, daylight savings time seems something of an anachronism.

MasterX0 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2004, 10:42:19 PM »

Yea. I here its not observed in certain parts of the US
Master"and I almost forgot, again"X0

ThisIsNotMyName · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2004, 11:38:28 PM »


JizzTits wonders if he's getting scammed: so does this mean we don't get paid for an hour of work? Pretty sure that would violate labor laws. Used to work nights some years back, and my (hazy) memories are that we got paid both ways; when the clock went back from 2AM to 1AM we got 9 hours pay, and when the clock went forward from 2AM to 3AM we still got 8 hours pay. Since that was Sunday AM, it was double-overtime too! The company had enough production orders to justify doing it most years. Union shop, BTW, and a big one at that. Kanodin names one set of nonconformists: Arizona ignores the seasonal time changes. Correct, for the most part. The Navajo Reservation in the northeast corner follows the Mountain Time Zone. Pulsar makes a similar declamation: as does Indiana iirc Also correct, for the most part. But small areas in the northwest and southwest corners of the state do shift, along with the Central Time Zone. Don't ask me why; I don't live there, and I ain't gonna ask my relatives who do. Hawaii doesn't use Daylight Savings Time either. Have a look at some maps to see what's going on.
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Kanodin · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2004, 02:24:31 AM »

This would be my interpretation of a timeclock dealing with seasonal time changes:

Spring forward: At 2AM on the appointed day, clocks spontaneously jump from 2AM to 3AM.
--Time clock would do this:
hour x (12AM) -> hour x+1 (1AM) -> hour x+2 (3AM)

Fall back: A 2AM on the appointed day, clocks spontaneously jump backward in time from 2AM to 1AM.
--Time clock would do this:
hour x (12AM) -> hour x+1 (1AM) -> hour x+2 (1AM)

The time clock would have to record minutes (or some enumerated units of time) and not simply compute the timestamp differences.

It's also possible that some companies avoid this logistical nightmare by ignoring the issue and just handing out extra pay.

Nimrod · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2004, 06:15:54 PM »

Grew up in central Indiana. Went to collage in Illinois just over the time change line. (see map link above) I would get into huge arguments about day light saving time with people in my studio.
Per my social studies high school teacher the States could all elect to observe this odd time shift. For a while even Wyoming was not doing it. Well I recall my teacher mentioning some reasons why Indiana did not jump on with the neighboring states.
1) Indiana sits about where the time change line would bisect the state and they did not want to do that.
2) At the time the rural nature of the state did not provide the impetus to make the change due to labor or energy saving reasons (the ones you hear the most).
3) Most interesting of all, my teacher mentioned that the Indiana is one of a few states that defines "time" and "noon" within the state and within state law. In Indiana "noon" is always solar noon. DLST would require a change in state law and that has never been accomplished.

After moving to Illinois DLST always gave me a odd feeling. The sun was not overhead at 12:00. I did not like having the change all the clocks. I have yet to hear a good reason for it.

(Noone may use the safety for school [censored] getting on the bus in daylight because that just does not hold)

Well, because my studio friends could not understand the Time Shift they continued to say that Indiana changes time - from "Eastern" to "Central". It does NOT change time. The surrounding states change time! Indiana is constant in time. They just could not get it.
I finally said, "OK, when DLST comes around, who gets up and changes their clocks?" Indiana does not, they do.

The only other odd effect was my two hour drive home. Depending on the time of year and direction it would appear to take 1, 2, or 3 hours.

steveo · « **Reply #13 on:** October 31, 2004, 06:44:17 PM »

It's also possible that some companies avoid this logistical nightmare by ignoring the issue and just handing out extra pay.

My employer does that... it is a logistical nightmare for us.

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