[scarface182]

 

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I so just pulled an Ashley Simpson.

 

LOL!

Are you gonna blame the band ?







 

[MrHHH]

Heh. Wanna have some fun? Go to a Military base and tell them that if any of them die, you're going to use their name to protest the war.

Do you even KNOW anyone in the military? Personally? I do, and they would be really pissed off if you did such a thing.
 

[scarface182]

Yeah smartass, MANY of my FAMILY has served in various armed forces around the world, from 1930 onwards.

Many of them came home in pieces or missing pieces (my uncles joke- he served in hot spots around the world during peacetime, 1975-1988)

I'm an army brat. Maybe thats why i hate war so much.

When you ask a question, wait until the person answers before you take it upon yourself to fill in the blanks...It can leave you looking STUPID and UNINFORMED.

But then again you are a Repug, so you are just being true to form.

So what sections of the military are your friends from?

Any of them see active time in Gulf war one? Lebanon? Cambodia? Argentina? The Falklands? Korea? France during world war 2? Papua New Guinea? Turkey?

Or are they just national guard weekend warriors you refer too little boy?








   

[MrHHH]

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I'm an army brat. Maybe thats why i hate war so much.

Well then, you must love this one. All volunteer! No conscription, the full support of the administration, the most advanced equipment and resources in the history of mankind. It has never been better to be in the military.

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So get fucked. When you ask a question, wait until the person answers before you take it upon yourself to fill in the blanks...It can leave you looking STUPID and UNINFORMED.

Note I didn't ask if you knew someone who was in World War II, or your history with the military. I asked you  "Do you know anyone in the military?" Present tense. Now.

So did you ask them? You know, the ones serving in the military?

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But then again you are a Repug, so you are just being true to form.

Sorry, you're barking up the wrong tree. I'm Independent. I like to call myself a "Member of the realist party".

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So what sections of the military are your friends from?

Air Force. Why? And for such an Army brat, I'm surprised you didn't say “Branch”.

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Any of them see active time in Gulf war one? Lebanon? Cambodia? Argentina? The Falklands? Korea? France during world war 2? Papua New Guinea? Turkey?

What's funny about this is, after giving me a lecture on letting someone answer the question, you do this. None of this is relevant to my original question, 'Do you know anyone in the Military'.

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Or are they just national guard weekend warriors you refer too little boy?

Well, they're not. But I guess you're saying that if they're National Guard they don't count. So you better take them off your deathwatch list.
   

[scarface182]

I gotta agree with Palomine on this one.


You are an uneducated sorry excuse for a human being.


YES I HAVE FAMILY STILL IN THE MILITARY. THATS WHY I SAID 1930 ONWARDS, NOT 1930 TO WHATEVER. BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED A SLEDGEHAMMER WITH EACH STATEMENT FOR IT TO SINK IN, SO I THOUGHT I'D BETTER REPEAT IT. Why am i shouting? It doesn't make the words louder does it? Hmmmm... Please consider...

 

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Air Force. Why? And for such an Army brat, I'm surprised you didn't say Branch.
 

Branch? A Yankee-ism.

 In Europe, Australia and the UK, a 'branch' belongs to a Bank or a Tree. The UK Police used to use it. maybe they still do.

Insularity breeds ignorance.

Should I have also said 'ATTENSHUN!' before i posted?

 

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 What's funny about this is, after giving me a lecture on letting someone answer the question, you do this. None of this is relevant to my original question, 'Do you know anyone in the Military'.

 

Do you preview your posts before you reply? This make so little sense i can't comment on it.

 

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 Well, they're not. But I guess you're saying that if they're National Guard they don't count. So you better take them off your deathwatch list

PEH.

 

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Well then, you must love this one. All volunteer! No conscription, the full support of the administration, the most advanced equipment and resources in the history of mankind.
 

Truly spoken by someone who has NO grasp on reality and NO contacts in the modern day military. Yeah, they volunteered so they could get a college education, which Bush and his cronies took away the funding for in their everyday lives - so they joined up.

What else is there? Wall Street, Crack dealer Avenue or the Army.

They didn't expect to be fighting and DYING for a bullshit war based on bullshit facts about bullshit connections between Iraq and Bin Laden made by the cockheads YOU voted for.


 

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It has never been better to be in the military  

Except when YOU ARE DEAD!

Which was the whole fucking point of my post in the first place.


Don't address me again. You are a nincompoop and I will not answer.











   

[MrHHH]

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You are an uneducated sorry excuse for a human being.

(shrug) You are boil on the forum. And unlike yourself, I haven't had the virtual equivalent of a restraining order put on me because I can't stop spewing bile and venom. You didn't understand part of my posts? It's not because they went above your head. The concepts just bounced off your skull.

And how much education do I have Mr Psychic? High school? Masters? Doctorate? What if I'm better educated than you? Would you automatically defer to my judgment then?

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YES I HAVE FAMILY STILL IN THE MILITARY. THATS WHY I SAID 1930 ONWARDS, NOT 1930 TO WHATEVER. BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED A SLEDGEHAMMER WITH EACH STATEMENT FOR IT TO SINK IN, SO I THOUGHT I'D BETTER REPEAT IT. Why am i shouting? It doesn't make the words louder does it? Hmmmm... Please consider...

No, it's because you don't answer my questions directly. It's not hard, yet you come off acting like I'm the bad guy here. Communication is the key.

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Air Force. Why? And for such an Army brat, I'm surprised you didn't say Branch.

Branch? A Yankee-ism.

 In Europe, Australia and the UK, a 'branch' belongs to a Bank or a Tree. Insularity breeds ignorance.

Well, here in the US, we have three branches of government.

And I was pointing out for someone who was an "Army Brat", you sure don't seem to know the basics.

So, you seem to be big on fighting ignorance. Are you going to start any time soon?

 

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 Do you preview your posts before you reply? This make so little sense i can't comment on it.

I know, I know. You've had a long hard day of telling people how they're morons for voting for Bush. You're bushed.


 

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Well, they're not. But I guess you're saying that if they're National Guard they don't count. So you better take them off your deathwatch list

PEH.

So then they DO matter? So why the insults? Treating people who join the national guard like they are less worthy.

Or they're only worthy to the point where they serve your goals?

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Truly spoken by someone who has NO grasp on reality and NO contacts in the modern day military. Yeah, they volunteered so they could get a college education, which Bush and his cronies took away the funding for in their lives so they joined up.

lol! No wonder you're so pissed off! You come from a family of idiots! "What do you mean we have to fight?" Bwahaha! Wait, let me guess, they thought the guns they were carrying were some sort of magic totem that kept evil spirts away? Or, that the fact that the US has been in an armed conflict on average of every 4 years would pass them by? Oh! Oh! I know! They were hoping to sit around in their uniforms for 4 years, soaking up tax dollars while getting a free education, food, and housing and giving back NOTHING in return.

Wow, this explains a lot about you.

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What else is there? Wall Street, Crack dealer Avenue or the Army.

Oh bullshit. They joined the Army because all you have to do is be able to read, write, be physically fit, and walk up to the recruiter. Compared to getting a job anywhere else, it's a cakewalk.

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They didn't expect to be fighting and DYING for a bullshit war based on bullshit facts about bullshit connections between Iraq and Bin Laden made by the cockheads YOU voted for.

Sorry, but if you join the military and don't expect to get sent somewhere that's filled with people who want to kill you, well I guess they're related to you, aren't they?

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Except when YOU ARE DEAD!

Which was the whole fucking point of my post in the first place.

Really? Your original point was that we have a great military, except for when you're dead, and here's the list of dead people.

Bwahaaha!


     

[scarface182]

Well bugger me with a fish hook, i like a challenge!

Like you Mr HHH

But i'm sick of all this requoting quotes bull, it looks like crap. So i'll do this differently, just to amuse myself. And i'm bored while i wait for dinner. So i decided to address some of your main concerns as seriously as i could.

To recap your posts (additions are in   yellow ):



(shrug) You are boil on the forum. and you illiterate And unlike yourself, I haven't had the virtual equivalent of a restraining order put on me he's had the real thing, all shiny and court signed! because I can't stop spewing bile and venom. you must try! You didn't understand part of my posts? only the unintelligable parts It's not because they went above your head. no shit sherlock! The concepts just bounced off your skull.     republican concepts do bounce, i grant you that...like bad cheques.

And how much education do I have Mr Psychic? not enough High school? maybe Masters? doubtful Doctorate? lets stay within the realms of sanity here! What if I'm better educated than you? you'd vote with your brains not your insecurities Would you automatically defer to my judgment then? not while i still have my breath  

No, it's because you don't answer my questions directly. sorry, i thought i was talking to an intelligent adult for a minute. I'll speak slower and more clearly next time...Have you read "my pet goat"?  It's not hard Give me time!!! you don't know me properly yet baby. how hard can you get it big boy? , yet you come off acting like I'm the bad guy here. no, Bush's cronies are bad guys. Lex Luthor is a bad guy.  you are just a sucker.  Communication is the key. like the communications the Bush administration recieved? that WMD's in Iraq didn't exist?

Well then, yes? you must love this one. must i? bit presumptious! All volunteer! yes! all volunteer! No conscription, not yet... wait the full support of the administration what? when was the last time a military force sent by THE ADMINISTRATION was not fully supported by THE ADMINISTRATION that sent them. you funny! , the most advanced equipment tee hee...the irony of that statement probably escapes him..yeah, it's just great when it works and doesn't hit civillian hospitals and aspirin factories that is! and resources read:money in the history of mankind. you must be very, very proud. starving [censored] ...check...no jobs...check...no decent schools...check...the biggest and bestest military in the whole history of mankind(no less)...DOUBLE CHECK It has never been better to be in the military. then why haven't you enlisted? why are you in Colorado instead of Fallujah? don't miss out while the going is so good! you'd be safe, look at what the biggest bestest military did for the DEAD [censored] you sacrificed for untruths that i listed at the start of this thread


Note so noted...errr what?  I didn't ask if you knew someone who was in World War II i just thought you'd be interested Mr Hawk , or your history with the military.  DID YOU SEE THE PHOTOS? i was just visiting the base, it was an innocent pillow fight! the photos are all fake!  I asked you "Do you know anyone in the military?" what do you mean by 'know'?...what are you implying here?

So did you ask them? hell yeah, i rang them all on the batphone as soon as you posted dude...i quoted you to them, is that ok? i gave you credit...  You know, know what? you keep saying that. I KNOW NOTHING!! stop it!  the ones serving in the military oh damn!!! i rang the ones serving food in their catering jobs !!...i'll ring the military ones tomorrow. i KNEW i got something wrong. i knew it was about serving something... bugger

Sorry, thats ok. just don't vote again, ok? you're barking up the wrong tree. I was looking for that branch of the military you mentioned...arf! I'm Independent. of your own brain...it's wandering aimlessly in the Rocky Mountains I like to call myself a big pumping love muscle of American mountain man-hood? a "Member of the realist party".oh...read loves guns, war and death, but won't give up porn or become religious to become a traditional Republican...IE a hypocrite.    

And for such an Army brat, GOD that sounds sexy when you say it!  I'm surprised  BOO!  you didn't say "Branch". you have a thing about trees don't you? find any good knot holes lately?


What's funny about this is, apart from 4 more years of tyranny you mean?  after giving me a lecture someone has to so you don't do it again! on letting someone answer the question,  you do this. what, answered your question? sorry, i must try and keep up  None of this is relevant to my original question,sigh  'Do you know anyone in the Military'.gomer pyle is a homie....does sgt slaughter count?

But I guess well, that's what the uneducated do most of the time...  you're saying that if they're National Guard they don't count. oh yes they do. both in my estimation AND on the death rolls. bullets don't know how many hours you have been active  So you better take them off your deathwatch list.why? you think they'll be back? sadly i think not. Bush probably does. he believes in the resurrection and the rapture. just ask him.  


Now THAT is the last time i want to speak to you or about you HHH, you big sexy devil you. Gimme a kiss and be on your way.

SMOOCHIES!












         

[scarface182]

Evidence is mounting. So is Mr HHH


 

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 November 6th, 2004 6:53 pm
Evidence Mounts That The Vote May Have Been Hacked


by Thom Hartmann / Common Dreams

When I spoke with Jeff Fisher this morning (Saturday, November 06, 2004), the Democratic candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from Florida's 16th District said he was waiting for the FBI to show up. Fisher has evidence, he says, not only that the Florida election was hacked, but of who hacked it and how. And not just this year, he said, but that these same people had previously hacked the Democratic primary race in 2002 so that Jeb Bush would not have to run against Janet Reno, who presented a real threat to Jeb, but instead against Bill McBride, who Jeb beat.

"It was practice for a national effort," Fisher told me.

And evidence is accumulating that the national effort happened on November 2, 2004.

The State of Florida, for example, publishes a county-by-county record of votes cast and people registered to vote by party affiliation. Net denizen Kathy Dopp compiled the official state information into a table, available at http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm, and noticed something startling.

While the heavily scrutinized touch-screen voting machines seemed to produce results in which the registered Democrat/Republican ratios matched the Kerry/Bush vote, and so did the optically-scanned paper ballots in the larger counties, in Florida's smaller counties the results from the optically scanned paper ballots - fed into a central tabulator PC and thus vulnerable to hacking - seem to have been reversed.

In Baker County, for example, with 12,887 registered voters, 69.3% of them Democrats and 24.3% of them Republicans, the vote was only 2,180 for Kerry and 7,738 for Bush, the opposite of what is seen everywhere else in the country where registered Democrats largely voted for Kerry.

In Dixie County, with 4,988 registered voters, 77.5% of them Democrats and a mere 15% registered as Republicans, only 1,959 people voted for Kerry, but 4,433 voted for Bush.

The pattern repeats over and over again - but only in the smaller counties where, it was probably assumed, the small voter numbers wouldn't be much noticed. Franklin County, 77.3% registered Democrats, went 58.5% for Bush. Holmes County, 72.7% registered Democrats, went 77.25% for Bush.

Yet in the larger counties, where such anomalies would be more obvious to the news media, high percentages of registered Democrats equaled high percentages of votes for Kerry.

More visual analysis of the results can be seen at http://ustogether.org/election04/FloridaDataStats.htm, and www.rubberbug.com/temp/Florida2004chart.htm.

And, although elections officials didn't notice these anomalies, in aggregate they were enough to swing Florida from Kerry to Bush. If you simply go through the analysis of these counties and reverse the "anomalous" numbers in those counties that appear to have been hacked, suddenly the Florida election results resemble the Florida exit poll results: Kerry won, and won big.

Those exit poll results have been a problem for reporters ever since Election Day.

Election night, I'd been doing live election coverage for WDEV, one of the radio stations that carries my syndicated show, and, just after midnight, during the 12:20 a.m. Associated Press Radio News feed, I was startled to hear the reporter detail how Karen Hughes had earlier sat George W. Bush down to inform him that he'd lost the election. The exit polls were clear: Kerry was winning in a landslide. "Bush took the news stoically," noted the AP report.

But then the computers reported something different. In several pivotal states.

Conservatives see a conspiracy here: They think the exit polls were rigged.

Dick Morris, the infamous political consultant to the first Clinton campaign who became a Republican consultant and Fox News regular, wrote an article for The Hill, the publication read by every political junkie in Washington, DC, in which he made a couple of brilliant points.

"Exit Polls are almost never wrong," Morris wrote. "They eliminate the two major potential fallacies in survey research by correctly separating actual voters from those who pretend they will cast ballots but never do and by substituting actual observation for guesswork in judging the relative turnout of different parts of the state."

He added: "So, according to ABC-TVs exit polls, for example, Kerry was slated to carry Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, and Iowa, all of which Bush carried. The only swing state the network had going to Bush was West Virginia, which the president won by 10 points."

Yet a few hours after the exit polls were showing a clear Kerry sweep, as the computerized vote numbers began to come in from the various states the election was called for Bush.

How could this happen?

On the CNBC TV show "Topic A With Tina Brown," several months ago, Howard Dean had filled in for Tina Brown as guest host. His guest was Bev Harris, the Seattle grandmother who started www.blackboxvoting.org from her living room. Bev pointed out that regardless of how votes were tabulated (other than hand counts, only done in odd places like small towns in Vermont), the real "counting" is done by computers. Be they Diebold Opti-Scan machines, which read paper ballots filled in by pencil or ink in the voter's hand, or the scanners that read punch cards, or the machines that simply record a touch of the screen, in all cases the final tally is sent to a "central tabulator" machine.

That central tabulator computer is a Windows-based PC.

"In a voting system," Harris explained to Dean on national television, "you have all the different voting machines at all the different polling places, sometimes, as in a county like mine, there's a thousand polling places in a single county. All those machines feed into the one machine so it can add up all the votes. So, of course, if you were going to do something you shouldn't to a voting machine, would it be more convenient to do it to each of the 4000 machines, or just come in here and deal with all of them at once?"

Dean nodded in rhetorical agreement, and Harris continued. "What surprises people is that the central tabulator is just a PC, like what you and I use. It's just a regular computer."

"So," Dean said, "anybody who can hack into a PC can hack into a central tabulator?"

Harris nodded affirmation, and pointed out how Diebold uses a program called GEMS, which fills the screen of the PC and effectively turns it into the central tabulator system. "This is the official program that the County Supervisor sees," she said, pointing to a PC that was sitting between them loaded with Diebold's software.

Bev then had Dean open the GEMS program to see the results of a test election. They went to the screen titled "Election Summary Report" and waited a moment while the PC "adds up all the votes from all the various precincts," and then saw that in this faux election Howard Dean had 1000 votes, Lex Luthor had 500, and Tiger Woods had none. Dean was winning.

"Of course, you can't tamper with this software," Harris noted. Diebold wrote a pretty good program.

But, it's running on a Windows PC.

So Harris had Dean close the Diebold GEMS software, go back to the normal Windows PC desktop, click on the "My Computer" icon, choose "Local Disk C:," open the folder titled GEMS, and open the sub-folder "LocalDB" which, Harris noted, "stands for local database, that's where they keep the votes." Harris then had Dean double-click on a file in that folder titled "Central Tabulator Votes," which caused the PC to open the vote count in a database program like Excel.

In the "Sum of the Candidates" row of numbers, she found that in one precinct Dean had received 800 votes and Lex Luthor had gotten 400.

"Let's just flip those," Harris said, as Dean cut and pasted the numbers from one cell into the other. "And," she added magnanimously, "let's give 100 votes to Tiger."

They closed the database, went back into the official GEMS software "the legitimate way, you're the county supervisor and you're checking on the progress of your election."

As the screen displayed the official voter tabulation, Harris said, "And you can see now that Howard Dean has only 500 votes, Lex Luthor has 900, and Tiger Woods has 100." Dean, the winner, was now the loser.

Harris sat up a bit straighter, smiled, and said, "We just edited an election, and it took us 90 seconds."

On live national television. (You can see the clip on www.votergate.tv)

Which brings us back to Morris and those pesky exit polls that had Karen Hughes telling George W. Bush that he'd lost the election in a landslide.

Morris's conspiracy theory is that the exit polls "were sabotage" to cause people in the western states to not bother voting for Bush, since the networks would call the election based on the exit polls for Kerry. But the networks didn't do that, and had never intended to. It makes far more sense that the exit polls were right - they weren't done on Diebold PCs - and that the vote itself was hacked.

And not only for the presidential candidate - Jeff Fisher thinks this hit him and pretty much every other Democratic candidate for national office in the most-hacked swing states.

So far, the only national "mainstream" media to come close to this story was Keith Olbermann on his show Friday night, November 5th, when he noted that it was curious that all the voting machine irregularities so far uncovered seem to favor Bush. In the meantime, the Washington Post and other media are now going through single-bullet-theory-like contortions to explain how the exit polls had failed.

But I agree with Fox's Dick Morris on this one, at least in large part. Wrapping up his story for The Hill, Morris wrote in his final paragraph, "This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong across the board as they were on election night. I suspect foul play."

 

 

[MrHHH]

Let me sum up your unreadable verbal **113**:

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I refuse to repond to you any more MrHHH, so do not address me!

(next post)

Blah blah blah blah.

So, we have the inability to write clearly, to control one's actions, and just straight out lying. Looks like a Bush hater to me!

Aren't those also the base psychological traits for criminals? Hows the restaining order treating you?

 

[scarface182]

sigh


Ok, i'll bite one last time because, well, I love ya brother....  sniff




(I'm, going back to the quote thingy again dammit! if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.)

 
 

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 Let me sum up your unreadable verbal **113**:

 

You are a real linguist huh?


 

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 Hows the restaining order treating you?
 

Not bad...The drycleaner is working on it.

 

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 Looks like a Bush hater to me

You know what? I actually DON'T hate Bush! Believe it or not! I hate aspects of his beliefs and his arrogance but most of his other faults are genetic. He's just a figurehead- a PR man on a grand scale- He gets up and sells the ideas of the other evil bastards. Half the time he probably doesn't know what's going on around him.  It's The Machine that scares me. For a second or two on september 11/12 i even thought to myself : "well at least it's someone from a longstanding political family with lots of diplomatic connections, and not some blow in President"- then I snapped to my senses when I started hearing this "if you're not with us you're with the terrorists" rubbish and saw what i saw on Fox news)

I also FUCKING HATE Bin Laden and any other terrorist group that takes innocent lives. Thought i should mention that.
But lets get the right dammned ones so they can't do it again. Hussein? PLEASE... Where is UBL? What is the Saudi connection?

I must also say this - It is testament to EVERY SINGLE PERSON on this forum that I have not seen one instance of anyone calling a non Bush follower a 'terrorist supporter'. Not one. That's awesome, all other things aside. I have seen this happen elsewhere, even in 'real' life.


 

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Aren't those also the base psychological traits for criminals?

 

Ask your parole officer, mountain man.


He loves war, thinks the military is great, thinks it's ok to get killed as long as you weren't conscripted and i'm the psycho???

ooooooooooook.....





 

[MrHHH]

And if you took 5 minutes to research that bigass article you cut and pasted, there's a reason why Kerry was winning in the exit polls.

It seems that in the begining the poll takers are much more interested in asking women who they voted for than men.

Put "early sample was based on a 59-41 women to men ratio" into your google search bar. It's almost 5am here, I'm going to bed.

 

[scarface182]

 

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And if you took 5 minutes to research that bigass article...  

What research mean?  

Dude, if you think that pissy little article is "BIG ASS" what the hell do you make of a book?...Or even a whole newspaper?


EDIT: Before ANYONE comes into this thread belly-aching about me or MrHHH FLAMING or TROLLING anyone know this:

This is two grown men ("thats debatable"!!! - there...I saved some of you some wear and tear on your typing finger)having a

DISAGREEMENT

No weapons, no threats just lots of bullshit and testosterone. And noone got hurt.






 

[Bramlet]

I'd endorse G.W. Bush - good one on foreign policies!

How come? Take a look:

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/m8u5yz/ed-koch